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Marge_Innavera:

--- Quote from: serious crayons on June 23, 2012, 01:48:28 pm ---
All I said was that people in poor neighborhoods are more effected by some -- not all! -- of those factors than are people from wealthier neighborhoods. So statistically speaking, poor people are heavier than rich people. That's in the U.S.

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There's also the growing problem of "food deserts" -- neighborhoods when the only stores selling food are convenience stores.  Those neighborhoods are often rural areas, where you need some kind of wheels even to get to the store; the nearest store of any kind from our house is 8 miles away. 

When Michelle Obama talked about it last year, the Right exploded in verbal farts of ridicule; however, it's a reality.  Gas prices hit the rural poor especially hard.

Marge_Innavera:

--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on June 23, 2012, 11:18:48 am ---
In contrast, groceries have a hard time even giving away whole chickens. A whole chicken costs less than $3.50 but who has the room to store it, the patience to cook and debone it, or the inclination to heat up their whole house with it?

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Now you've touched on two other factors: the decline of education and uncritical worship of convenience at all costs.

Cooking a whole chicken is just a few steps up from cooking oatmeal, even the edible (i.e., non-instant) variety.  No need to debone it or cut it up.  


Came back to add:

I'm not referring to a lack of education on the part of anyone here, but to the fact that a lot of people haven't been taught the basics of cooking anymore, even so far as roasting a chicken. 

Jeff Wrangler:

--- Quote from: Marge_Innavera on June 23, 2012, 02:33:27 pm ---Came back to add:

I'm not referring to a lack of education on the part of anyone here, but to the fact that a lot of people haven't been taught the basics of cooking anymore, even so far as roasting a chicken. 

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That was sort of my point. As Katharine has demonstrated in her post, it isn't that difficult, but, still, somebody has to teach you/you have to learn how to do that somewhere.


--- Quote ---Other people like that thing where you stick a full can of beer up the chicken and then grill it, but I haven't tried that myself.
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Never heard of that. I hope you mean they open the can and pour the beer inside the chicken. ...


--- Quote ---About Nepal, there actually ARE big bottles of soda pop and chips easily available. In the north, almost every teahouse has rows and rows of Pringles on display as well as rows and rows of Coca Cola in the old fashioned classic bottles. But the native people don't buy them; they are for the tourists.
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Talk about American cultural imperialism. Even if that stuff is for the tourists.

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on June 23, 2012, 03:45:18 pm ---Never heard of that. I hope you mean they open the can and pour the beer inside the chicken. ...
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Nope, they open the can and use it as a base onto which they push the upright chicken. Then they grill it. The theory is that as the beer heats and boils, the steam flavors, bastes and tenderizes the chicken from within, while the outside gets browned. Kitchen supply shops even sell holders for the beer can. Like so:



It's sometimes referred to by the mouth-watering term, "beer butt chicken."



Luvlylittlewing:

--- Quote from: serious crayons on June 23, 2012, 04:01:13 pm ---Nope, they open the can and use it as a base onto which they push the upright chicken. Then they grill it. The theory is that as the beer heats and boils, the steam flavors, bastes and tenderizes the chicken from within, while the outside gets browned. Kitchen supply shops even sell holders for the beer can. Like so:



It's sometimes referred to by the mouth-watering term, "beer butt chicken."





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I've heard of it and always wanted to try it.  As others here have pointed out, it is easy to bake or broil a chicken; far easier, I think, than preparing steak or salmon.  I'm partial to fried chicken, myself.  Frying a chicken is about as easy as baking one, but there is an art to preparing a tasty seasoning/flour mixture.  I know that frying is a lot less healthy than baking/broiling, even though I lost 110 pounds in the 80s eating as much fried chicken as I wanted.  I don't know how true this is, but I've read that Harlan Saunders (sp?) ate fried chicken every day of his life and lived to be 90.

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