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The Naked Face Project
Luvlylittlewing:
--- Quote from: bentgyro on March 21, 2012, 05:53:45 pm ---I live in a very small town and have been looking around at the women in the bank, supermarket, etc.
Not very many of them wear much makeup other than mascera and lipstick or lipgloss and if you could
see their legs, they probably aren't shaved.......it's still winter ;)
I have a girlfriend who wears foundation, mascera, lipsick and does her eyebrows to hide the scars form bad acne.
That's her choice and she shouldn't be judged, just as the bare- faced women shouldn't be.
The naked face project is just something else to make people (women) feel guilty.
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I agree!
Penthesilea:
--- Quote from: bentgyro on March 21, 2012, 05:53:45 pm ---The naked face project is just something else to make people (women) feel guilty.
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--- Quote ---I completely support the statement
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--- Quote ---I agree!
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Really? Now I'm surprised.
I see it comepletely the other way round. I see it as liberation.
Let's face it: in many, many jobs, and I'd guess in the most qualified jobs, and/or wherever one has to represent, women are expected to wear makeup.
Imagine the spokeswomen of some well-known organization without makeup (just like the two who satarted this)
Imagine any female politician.
The boss of a successful, nation-wide company.
Middle management from the same company.
Even the head of a bank branch in a small sized town.
The mayor of the same town during a town hall meeting.
Pretty much any woman who has to go to some official meeting.
They all need to make a neat, well-groomed impression. But why the heck do make-up, shaved legs and plucked eyebrows so matter-of-factly belong to what our society percieves as well-groomed?
If you want to do the make-up, even want to go all glam, all power to you, enjoy what you do.
But when women feel they have to to all the named stuff in order to be repesentable, then something in the way we look at women is at least questionable.
RouxB:
--- Quote from: Penthesilea on March 22, 2012, 02:05:30 am ---
Really? Now I'm surprised.
I see it completely the other way round. I see it as liberation.
Let's face it: in many, many jobs, and I'd guess in the most qualified jobs, and/or wherever one has to represent, women are expected to wear makeup.
Imagine the spokeswomen of some well-known organization without makeup (just like the two who started this)
Imagine any female politician.
The boss of a successful, nation-wide company.
Middle management from the same company.
Even the head of a bank branch in a small sized town.
The mayor of the same town during a town hall meeting.
Pretty much any woman who has to go to some official meeting.
They all need to make a neat, well-groomed impression. But why the heck do make-up, shaved legs and plucked eyebrows so matter-of-factly belong to what our society perceives as well-groomed?
If you want to do the make-up, even want to go all glam, all power to you, enjoy what you do.
But when women feel they have to to all the named stuff in order to be presentable, then something in the way we look at women is at least questionable.
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Well, it's liberating if it validates what you already do, it is stressful to go without if you are used to it, and it just makes you feel vain or sheep-like or whatever if you are someone who feels more secure or beautiful or whatever with a little enhancement. I don't feel pressure to wear make-up so I wear it when I want and don't worry (too much) about it when I don't.
Would the world be a better place if people were judged on the content of their character rather than superficial attributes? Absolutely. But that isn't the world we live in and the chances of turning back time are slim (though I wish for it every stinkin day :'( ). So what we have left is to cut people some slack when they do what makes them feel better about themselves, "artificial" or not. When I was 20 I said I would never dye my hair. I started going grey at 21 and that "never" eventually marched right out the door. I "feel" better without the halo of white around my face (and I cringe when I see pictures of me here with white hair. I want to go on a mass delete spree). Is feeling that way baggage? Yeah but I'm okay with carrying it.
I work in banking-customer facing postions at times-and my make-up was pretty hit and miss. There is more of an expectation of business dress rather than a made-up face.
bentgyro:
Men in these same positions that present themselves as well groomed probably cut the hair out of their ears
and noses and plucked their unibrows. I know women in high positions around here that are well groomed in that
they keep their hair neat and tidy and wear mascara and lipstick and if they shave their legs I wouldn't know as they
usually wear pants. Our museum curator goes to fuctions and speaks in front of people often, she doesn't wear
makeup, keeps her hair short and tidy but she always has her nails painted, her little fetish. Men are put under
pressure about appearences, too.
RouxB:
--- Quote from: bentgyro on March 22, 2012, 02:01:20 pm ---Men are put under pressure about appearences, too.
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True but not anywhere near to the degree that women are.
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