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What does "bitch" mean now?
milomorris:
--- Quote from: serious crayons on April 15, 2012, 04:42:59 pm ---Sure, if you take the two situations out of all other real-life contexts, the words are equivalently offensive. But when you add three real-life factors -- that black people are in the minority, that as a group they hold less power, and that historically they've been severely oppressed by people who openly used those very slurs against them (whereas a black man using slurs against a white person would be taking an enormous risk) -- they acquire different weights.
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So A is less offensive than B. Fine. But both A and B are still offensive (in this case racist). Different people will be offended by both A and B to varying degrees. To bring this back to the original topic, "dick" is less offensive than the "c-word," yet both are offensive, and different men and women will have varying reactions to them.
P.S. Oh, BTW, Bermuda is indeed only about 1/3 white. But keep in mind that they are still one of the last British Crown Colonies. That means that England is actually in charge. So my handsome, young, white victim was part of the power class. In the situation, maybe not. But in general, certainly. And black Bermudians were all to happy to remind me not to be fooled by all the black faces I saw. They knew who called the shots.
ifyoucantfixit:
--- Quote from: milomorris on April 14, 2012, 09:33:42 pm ---Non-white people use "cracker" or "redneck" as a slur for whites. That is racist. There is no difference between me sitting in a barbershop in the hood complaining about "crackers" with other black men, and a bunch of white men sitting in a barbershop complaining about "niggers." No difference at all.
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My point was, which you obviously did not get. I don't know of anyone of the white people I know. Are either very upset, or very insulted by that name calling. Redneck is a name that many who are called that. Are proud to envelope. Same with calling someone a "Cracker."
It would make me laugh, more than be angry. I think it shows the ignorance of the one using the word. More than it being a hurt to the one being called that. I would only shake my head and laugh. Realizing how stupid and hopeful an insult that they were throwing. An how it had held no reaction that they were hoping for. Earning them a laugh, rather than a epithet returned. Or worse, to start acting injured. While laughing..."Oh oh no, not that. please don't call me that." meanwhile laughing.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: milomorris on April 15, 2012, 04:58:16 pm ---So A is less offensive than B. Fine. But both A and B are still offensive (in this case racist). Different people will be offended by both A and B to varying degrees. To bring this back to the original topic, "dick" is less offensive than the "c-word," yet both are offensive, and different men and women will have varying reactions to them.
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Agreed.
--- Quote ---P.S. Oh, BTW, Bermuda is indeed only about 1/3 white. But keep in mind that they are still one of the last British Crown Colonies. That means that England is actually in charge. So my handsome, young, white victim was part of the power class. In the situation, maybe not. But in general, certainly. And black Bermudians were all to happy to remind me not to be fooled by all the black faces I saw. They knew who called the shots.
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Agreed here, too. But that's little comfort to your "whitey."
milomorris:
--- Quote from: serious crayons on April 16, 2012, 08:01:16 am ---Agreed here, too. But that's little comfort to your "whitey."
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I know. It was one of those moments where you just look in the mirror and say "idiot."
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: milomorris on April 16, 2012, 08:07:18 am ---I know. It was one of those moments where you just look in the mirror and say "idiot."
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We all have them. :-\
"Open mouth. Insert foot. Bite down hard. ..."
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