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Another Deleted scene?
Mikaela:
In the short story, also there's Ennis's "Sure as hell seem in one piece to me". But that's in the same paragraph as most of Ennis's other such sentences as mentioned by Lee.
In the film - nope. They don't talk about it - or even allude to it, - certainly not after they start the fishing trips.That part of the short story's motel scene has been cut out, except Jack's line about "getting into this again". The film's got a "neither show nor tell" policy going for the whole post motel part - which makes Jack's eventual "high altitude fucks" line stand out and seem all the more significant and conspicuous, as must surely have been the intention.
What they don't talk about tell a lot about them, about their relationship, during the various stages of those 20 years. Pre-TS1 they never talk of girls or sex the way you'd have expected two 19-year old guys to do. (It's more conspicuous in the short story where we get a long list of what they talk about - down to the dogs they've owned and known, but not girls.) Of course once TS1 is past, the story says "they never talked about the sex, let it happen" - so the film's very canon there. Post-reunion they don't talk about sex either - at least not with each other - in the short story they even talk kids and wives and girlfriends while undressing and touching each other.
Despite all the above I've always thought that Ennis's line "the kind of riding that interested him lasted longer than 8 seconds and had some point to it" was one of his few attempts of obvious innuendo. Of course, the line has been changed in the film to become a straightforward statement/question specifically about the point of rodeo riding, and any original innuendo is lost.
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I thought the blue-thing in that first photo was the edge of a granite tombstone. It is after all a cemetary and I assume the Twists haven't always been down on their luck. Maybe ?
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Now I have this vision of Jack's granddad, insisting on being the stud duck in the family plot - insisting on having a granite tombstone, towering over the others'. ::) But I do think it looks like cloth rather than stone.
welliwont:
--- Quote from: Marge_Innavera on October 12, 2006, 12:41:17 pm ---
--- Quote from: atz75 on October 11, 2006, 09:12:12 pm ---Plus the famous alternative Ennis-in-Jack's-closet scene being shown at the Independent Spirit Awards is another amazing example of extra footage (of one kind or another) floating around out there.
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This might be a minority opinion, but I'd definitely want to see that scene added, in addition to the cemetery scene. Probably the latter isn't very long.
Yeah, "director's cut" seems to be a bit of a misnomer, as a film belongs to the producer in the end, not the director. Unless they're one and the same, of course.
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--- Quote from: jpwagoneer1964 on October 13, 2006, 01:57:24 am ---
--- Quote from: Wreeah on October 13, 2006, 01:33:16 am ---There was an alternative 'Closet' scene???? :o
Geez, I'm learning something new about this film all the time.
This is probably old news to most of you here, but I had never heard about this.
Man.... do I ever feel behind the times here...
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It was either a different take or the scene we see extended.
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I was on the bandwaggon to find that scene (alternate scene/cut), and thankfully we did finally locate it, one of the highpoints of my BetterMost experience. Here is a link to more info about it. I just checked, two of the four links are obsolete, so grab it while you can. FYI the scene we were so over the moon about is only about two or three seconds, BTW.
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?topic=2600.0;all
Jane
PS, Can you please answer the Poll question at the top? this will have a two-fold beneficial effect. tks.
welliwont:
--- Quote from: nakymaton on October 15, 2006, 10:16:41 pm ---
The hippy scene is hilarious, especially for anyone who happens to be a recovering Deadhead, but I'm glad it isn't in the movie. I read somewhere that even when they filmed it, they knew it wasn't going to be included.
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LOL Mel, I wish I could mind-meld to your brain, and gain all this vital, VALUABLE, oh--so-priceless inside information you have tucked away in there. thanks for sharing... :-* (and if anyone is wondering, no, this is not meant to be sarcastic)
J
welliwont:
--- Quote from: Mikaela on October 15, 2006, 05:21:50 am ---
Also now I'm wondering what that blue thing or shadow in the lower right hand corner of the first picture is. It looks vaguely like it's supposed to be reminiscent of Jack's blue shirt that Ennis has in his bag, as if something in there already reflects Jack, - and I can't see what it's supposed to be.
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Could it be the shadow of the Cameraman and his camera? ie: a blooper?
J
welliwont:
--- Quote from: nakymaton on October 15, 2006, 10:38:31 pm ---(And Jane, hon, my brain is a really scary place. Believe me, you just don't want to know what's in there...)
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Are you kiddin' me?!!! for the person who came up with this????
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?topic=4253.msg84124#msg84124
g'wan, don't be so dang modest Mel, you know I love your brain, :-*
J
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