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"You're good enough"
Lynne:
--- Quote from: atz75 on October 18, 2006, 11:13:59 pm ---I feel like we can see Alma Jr.'s face and demeanor change when she sees Cassie in the truck when Ennis comes to pick her up. Alma Jr. knows that she won't be getting Ennis's un-divided attention during this visit. I think the "good enough" comment might be infused with a little bit of all these issues.
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All of this is part of that pesky "space"... between what we know and believe.
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Amanda - you are entirely correct about Junior's disappointment when seeing Cassie is along for her outing with her Dad. There is no question in my mind about that. I guess I'm just unclear about the 'why'...Is it because she wants some undivided time to broach the subject of her moving in with Dad? or is it a general dislike of having 'their' time infringed upon?
That pesky 'space'....will we ever think of any psychic or emotional disconnects again without thinking of it??? Sure hope not, myseslf.
Ellemeno:
--- Quote from: atz75 on October 18, 2006, 11:13:59 pm ---And for the record, I do think that Alma Jr. knew about Ennis... but I'm not sure when she figured it out. I feel sure she knows by the end, but it's certainly not clear to me how old she was when she first understood. All of this is part of that pesky "space"... between what we know and believe.
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I am of the camp that the girls could hear it all from the living room on Thanksgiving. They were only about 15 feet away, and their mom and dad were out there alone together, yet overhearable. What kids of divorce wouldn't be listening as best they could? And then afterward, "Mom, what were you and Daddy so upset about?" "Jack Nasty..."
Sheriff Roland:
--- Quote from: Ellemeno on October 19, 2006, 04:51:12 am ---I am of the camp that the girls could hear it all from the living room on Thanksgiving. They were only about 15 feet away, and their mom and dad were out there alone together, yet overhearable. What kids of divorce wouldn't be listening as best they could? And then afterward, "Mom, what were you and Daddy so upset about?" "Jack Nasty..."
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Geez I LOVE this Board
Nearly a year later, and I still have nit pickin' questions and members, little by little provide me with more insight, that I should have gotten, but didn't.
Thanks y'all
opinionista:
--- Quote from: injest on October 16, 2006, 09:51:37 pm ---wellllll...I always thought that Junior knew that Ennis was gay. So to me it was always an unfinished sentence...I can almost hear the ending..."You are good enough but my father is gay...so no matter how good you are, he is looking for what you can not give him"
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I agree with Jess here. I also think Alma Jr. knew or suspect her father wasn't into women. So when she says to Cassie you're good enough, but he's not the marrying kind she means, "if he were into women you'll be perfect, but I don't think he is." If she meant something else, then why would she add the "he isn't the marrying kind" part? She lowers her face when she says that part. I thought she was a bit embarrased. Alma Jr was worried about her father being alone, yet she knew her dad wasn't happy in the company of women. I think that's why she asks him if she can go live with him. I didn't buy her excuse about her mother and Monroe being stritct with her. She knew her father needed help and company. So, IMO if she thought her dad was straight she'd be happy with the idea of Cassie becoming his wife, but she knew that couldn't be and probably imagine Cassie was going to suffer just like her mother did. She was honest when she says to Cassie that she didn't mean to be rude. She was just trying to make a point with out directly telling Cassie what was really going on
David:
I don't think Junior ( or Cassie) knew Ennis was gay.
Often family members are blind to the thought because they love the person so much. As a gay Teen, I spent alot of time with my Aunt on vacations. She was a lesbian but I never knew it. It was only after her funeral that all these other lesbians showed up that I was shocked! How could I of all people miss that? Denial?
My parents had suspected all these years. But I didn't despite all the clues. I loved her for who she was. Her being single all her life was not unusual to me. To me she was just this non-feminine, athletic, lonely spinster living with 30 or 40 cats. Go figure.
So I think it is possible that Junior didn't know. Perhaps she was clinging to the idea her Dad and Mom would get back together eventually? A lot of kids of divorces wish that. After she married Monroe however, that hope was dashed. Then Cassie was just "good enough" yet still in the way of her time with Ennis.
Cassies "I don't get you Ennis DelMar" certainly confirms that she had no clue. Alot of girls who suspect a boyfriend is gay will dismiss the idea because the guy is having sex with them. They figure :"If he was gay he wouldn't want sex right?" Trust me, I have heard that exclaimed from girls before!
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