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Free Fall - Freier Fall
gattaca:
--- Quote from: mariska on May 14, 2014, 02:31:12 pm ---Why not? Marc is separated from Bettina en a new love/relationship doesn't mean he can't take responsibility for his child. Assumed that Kay would have stayed, why do you think the child would hold Marc back from a relationshilp with Kay?
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The assumption is IF Kay stayed. He did not and I do not think he intended to as he already had asked Marc about leaving.
Trying to be a parent if one is not there daily is hard damn hard and from Marc's sense of responsibility I do not feel he could have left locally. V
gattaca:
--- Quote from: butlers_fantasy on May 14, 2014, 12:37:44 pm ---Yeah, Ennis would never be able to get past his fear.
That's another big difference between the two movies: at least Marc was able to face up to the fact that he loved Kay ...... Ennis would carry his secret of his love for Jack to his grave. That's a helluva lot to keep inside.
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So Ennis going to Jack's home .....didn't tell Jsck's mom ? She knew his and Jsck's story and accepted it. Marc's mother had a visceral reaction followed by direct confrontation with Kay. V
mariska:
--- Quote from: gattaca on May 14, 2014, 05:30:57 pm ---Please explain I do not understand your meaning. V
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Sorry I didn't explain my opinion. But as I wrote to Nancy, sometimes it's hard difficult for me (because of my lack of English).
That's why I copy Nancy's reaction, that's my opinion too.
""Yeah, Ennis would never be able to get past his fear.
That's another big difference between the two movies: at least Marc was able to face up to the fact that he loved Kay - even though he denies to the end being gay, he made a huge step by admitting to Gregor & Bettina that he had been with Kay (even though he reduced it to "an affair"). Ennis would carry his secret of his love for Jack to his grave.".
I also think Ennis would never be able to get past his fear (homophobia). I remember the scene when he was a little boy when his father showed him what happened to boys loving other boys.
gattaca:
--- Quote from: butlers_fantasy on May 14, 2014, 03:49:47 pm ---I agree with the "no-win" statement, everyone lost what they thought they had.
But none of them will stay in that static state. Most certainly Marc, but even Bettina and his parents, will come to accept what has happened and move on.
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Yes hence my comment about Marc realizing he has 'fallen' and now is trying to recover himself. I'm insure how to convey this better. The ending has meanings on several levels. Just like the parting 'window' framing the golden fields of wheat in Brokeback. V
gattaca:
--- Quote from: butlers_fantasy on May 14, 2014, 04:38:49 pm ---I know it's just a publicity shot for a magazine, but I love this of the two of them
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I love this shot. Thanks for sharing it. Speaks well of both. V
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