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Free Fall - Freier Fall
mariska:
--- Quote from: estoycomiendounburrito on May 22, 2014, 02:17:37 am ---Hey guys, it's been really interesting reading your opinions on the movie, I read through this thread in a couple of days. I was really happy to find it because I first saw the movie back in like November, the DAY the first torrent with English subtitles came out. I have watched it so many times since, and have never found anywhere there was really in-depth conversation going on about it until now. There is so much I could reply to in these 49 pages but these were the things that stick in my mind now after finishing the thread.
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Hi, welcome. Good that you found this forum and yes, interesting points you brought up.
Nice to hear that you liked the movie as much as we did (I watched it very often too).
It is really interesting to read several opinions and to think about it and sometimes it makes you look at things diffently.
And Nancy is the one who found the 6 deleted scenes :).
mariska:
--- Quote from: estoycomiendounburrito on May 22, 2014, 02:17:37 am ---The thing about the condom is weird. They obviously did not use a condom their first time. I thought, well maybe he was just like... rubbing up against him? But Kay's face was showing pain that was obviously meant to imply penetration was happening. And it made sense later to put that scene (with his mom finding the condom) in the context of his mom discovering them in the hospital, and her asking him how long it had been going on. She would have put two and two together, at that point (as well as the night shifts).
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D
So you think Kays face was showing pain during the car scene. Interesting.
In an earlier post I wrote this:
You know, after hearing the audio comments and reading a lot of reviews, it's clear to me that using a lot of non-verbal language in a movie can be tricky. Not everyone interpretates that same.
For example the scene in the rain (the car): I read 3 different interpretations about the look at Kay's face:
- kay shows little emotion
- kay has a smug smile on his face as if he thought: I've won.
- Kay closes his eyes full of lust
Well, which one do you think?
I should say: a combination of the last two.
Nancy answered that he was also looking kind of amused.
Now we can add one to the list: in pain.
Funny all those different interpretations.
By the way...in the audio comments I heard that they got a lot of negative reactions on the fact that they didn't use a comdom.
mariska:
--- Quote from: butlers_fantasy on May 22, 2014, 08:04:48 am ---I am definitely into both Jack & Ennis and Marc & Kay. It's just that sometimes when I look at the collateral damage they cause, it's sad.
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Very sad for all involved.
I just watched a part of "Die Deutscher Freund" with Max. It's not my kind of movie. And Max's hair! Awful. He looks so different with a nice short haircut.
mariska:
--- Quote from: estoycomiendounburrito on May 22, 2014, 02:17:37 am ---
I don't think Kay pursued him SO aggressively for no reason--he knew that Marc had feelings for him.
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I agree with you, he knew (in any case in that scene in the forest).
I have been thinking: Kay's first move was the cigaret-kiss scene. What was it that made Kay do that? I'm sure there must be a little thing that Marc did.
We see them in the pool together, making fun. No sign of other feelings than friendship. Next scene they are in the college room en they look at each other. And then the cigaret-kiss. Was it the look between them in the college room?
Or is it just a feeling, intuitive knowing?
gattaca:
--- Quote from: mariska on May 21, 2014, 06:31:49 pm ---...
You can't just build a life on lies.
I gues....if Kay would have been another woman....it would have been different. More threatening. Like Bettina said: I can't even be jealous.
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Her not being jealous is in her mind. Jealously is non discriminating V
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