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delalluvia:

--- Quote from: injest on October 22, 2006, 11:51:09 pm ---the church my mother goes to tells the members that they are not to even admire a sunset...because that would mean they were 'in the world' instead of living for God.

I find it hard to believe (and have since childhood) that God (if there is a God) created this spectacular and wonderful planet...and we are supposed to stay on our knees with head bowed ?? How cruel a God are they worshiping? That is such a warped thought...that he created all this beauty to 'test' us.

I had a cousin who was in beauty pageants...won quite a few of them. Very talented and agile. She developed a brain tumor and died. Mother's church passed out a letter to all members saying God had killed the little girl to punish the parents for not going to church enough.

these people are sick. I am afraid of people like this..you can't reason with them. They have been raised from childhood to allow the preacher to think for them.

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You are right to be afraid.  Sick sick sick people.

Marge_Innavera:

--- Quote from: injest on October 22, 2006, 10:02:03 am ---I was talking to Jeff the other day about the Pentecost...and was telling him that the church I grew up in was obsessed with the Pentecost.
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I'm not sure what relevance the Pentecost would have to suffering or sado-masochism; it had to do with a sudden infusion of spiritual energy (the "Holy Spirit") at the Jewish holiday of Shavuot. Are you sure you didn't mean the "Passion"?

Marge_Innavera:

--- Quote from: delalluvia on October 22, 2006, 11:38:39 pm --- There are a fair number of people who belong to religions such as Christianity for which suffering is a major part of their creed.  You have to suffer.  You have to revel in it.  Somewhere along the way, the religious expression of pagans in pleasurable things was taken to its opposite extreme by early Christians trying to be different.  They found their god in pain and suffering and took pleasure and felt purity and righteous in it.
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Bishop (ret.) Shelby Spong said in A New Christianity For a New World that over the centuries Christianity developed a truly repellent obsession with not only suffering but blood. He cited some hymns in particular that he just couldn't stomach, such as "There Is A Fountain Filled With Blood."

Add that to the disdain for physical matters in general, and you have a pretty good rationale for the abuse of the environment, although that's changing a bit in religious circles, very recently.

Lynne:
Hmmm...my Methodist church growing up taught that the Passion referred to the crucifixion and surrounding events, while the Pentecost is the descension of the Holy Spirit after the resurrection...They hymnals are even ordered by the Christian calendar so that hymns are selected based on the time of the year...Easter, Passion, Pentecost, Advent, etc...

I dunno tho..the whole mess caused me enough stress to mostly chuck it altogether  ::)

Lumière:
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--- Quote from: Impish on October 20, 2006, 09:56:04 am ---Another example of the immorality of the extreme Christian Right:

http://www.alternet.org/stories/42881/

Sheesh!

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Sad, sad indeed!   What some people will do/say in the name of God and religion .. jeez!  ::)

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