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Brown Eyes:
Has anyone here seen the new Lone Ranger movie with Johnny Depp in it? I haven't seen it, but I'm very curious about it. I know that he was very inspired by Keith Richards for his role in Pirates... and I'm interested in his make-up for Lone Ranger and the idea of inspiration from music.
His make-up is so reminiscent of Marilyn Manson make-up... I'm super curious about whether that was deliberate (and the war paint metaphor is very appropriate for Manson). As with Richards, there's some personal connection and history with Manson for Depp. Has there been any discussion of that anywhere?
I'm tempted to see the movie - just because is looks amusing.
Front-Ranger:
Try out Jeff's "Everything Lone Ranger" thread in his blog. :)
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: Brown Eyes on August 04, 2013, 01:52:54 am ---His make-up is so reminiscent of Marilyn Manson make-up... I'm super curious about whether that was deliberate (and the war paint metaphor is very appropriate for Manson). As with Richards, there's some personal connection and history with Manson for Depp. Has there been any discussion of that anywhere?
I'm tempted to see the movie - just because is looks amusing.
--- End quote ---
I found the movie amusing, but then it has lots of trains in it, so maybe it's best not to take my word for it.
I hope this link works....
http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/05/johnny_depps_make-up_for_new_tonto_movie_is_awful.html
I heard or read somewhere that the inspiration for Johnny Depp's makeup was a painting of an actual Crow Indian. I found the above, which, when I looked at it, showed the painting next to a photo of Depp. Since his Tonto is supposed to be a Comanche, I have no idea why they would base his makeup on a member of the Crow Nation. I guess that's Hollywood for you. ???
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Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on August 04, 2013, 01:09:14 pm ---I found the movie amusing, but then it has lots of trains in it, so maybe it's best not to take my word for it.
I hope this link works....
http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/05/johnny_depps_make-up_for_new_tonto_movie_is_awful.html
I heard or read somewhere that the inspiration for Johnny Depp's makeup was a painting of an actual Crow Indian. I found the above, which, when I looked at it, showed the painting next to a photo of Depp. Since his Tonto is supposed to be a Comanche, I have no idea why they would base his makeup on a member of the Crow Nation. I guess that's Hollywood for you. ???
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That's awesome about the Crow make-up. But you're right that if the tribe was supposed to be different, that's a big problem. Native American issues have become especially interesting to me after reading the entire Lonesome Dove series. Amazing and fascinating.
My curiosity about his make-up had to do with that, but also my crossover obsession with Marilyn Manson. Knowing that Depp modeled his pirate behavior on Keith Richards (and Depp is old friends with Richards's son, and now Richards himself) I was really wondering about the possible Manson inspriation. He's also somewhat friendly with Manson. To a Manson fan the make-up immediately is evocative. (famously, Manson has a goofy crush on Depp... he's mostly heterosexual, but he's talked very openly about his crush on Depp... for what it's worth).
An early example of some of his more elaborate face makeup:
(concert photos from 2000 / 2001)
Depp performing with MM in 2012 :D (I can't get the youtube embed to work, so I'll just post the links)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhN-_VkdSpc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObiNpAk1p-8
Johnny Depp, Marilyn Manson Perform 'Sweet Dreams' & 'Beautiful People'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/12/johnny-depp-marilyn-manson-perform-video_n_1421354.html
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