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Resurrecting the Movies thread...
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: MaineWriter on November 05, 2007, 12:22:28 pm ---Your reaction is interesting because it is at 92% on rottentomatoes and it appears that most of the critics are raving about it.
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One explanation might be that critics rarely seem to see bleakness as a fault. Sometimes I think they even see it as a virtue. Most of the bleak movies that led me to swear off bleak movies were critically acclaimed -- and rightly so, because bleakness aside they were very well-made movies (other examples that come to mind include Platoon, Blue Velvet and the bleakest movie I've seen, Leaving Las Vegas.).
I can think of others that critics liked but that I avoided because I could tell just by the reviews they'd be too bleak for me (The Cook, the Thief, his Wife and her Lover, any movie directed by Todd Solondz ...).
(Oh, reading back just now I see that oilgun also called the movie other things you'd think critics would object to, such as disjointed, predictable and manipulative. Well, maybe it was so nice and bleak that the critics were willing to overlook these problems)
notBastet:
--- Quote from: Kd5000 on November 05, 2007, 12:12:39 pm ---I saw INTO THE WILD last night. The breathtaking scenery reminded me of Brokeback Mountain. The film is based on the nonfiction bestseller of a young man who gave away his life savings to embrace nature. He also left his family behind without a note or explanation. As far as they were concerned, he had just vanished.
He journeys all over America, (staying away from cities) and the film is a recollection of his adventures and some of the ppl he met along the way. He ended up in Alaska, living in a bus, wanting to live in the wild. Well you can't get a place with more wilderness then Alaska. It had been his lifelong ambition, the great trek to Alaska
The film was quite well acted, directed by Sean Penn. I'm not going to spoil the ending, though everyone I know seems to know how it turns out. He kept a journal referencing Tolstoy and Thoreau. He had many interesting philosophical insights.
I'm surprised the film has not been released in more theaters (only 600) as it should be a box office hit. The book and his story are quite well know.
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I saw this a week or two ago. I was pretty impressed. It was a good experience for me.
oilgun:
--- Quote from: MaineWriter on November 05, 2007, 12:22:28 pm ---Your reaction is interesting because it is at 92% on rottentomatoes and it appears that most of the critics are raving about it.
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Wow, 92%!? I think it's the first time that my opinion of a film differs so drastically from the majority of critics! I really don't know what to say, except that I guess I just couldn't buy into the story. It's hard to say more without revealing important plot points. I did enjoy the story's setup and the acting was fine but then something happened, and I can't really pin-point exactly what it was, but I started losing my suspension of disbelief, and when one of the characters stormed into the bar with a Popeye mask, that really sealed the deal for me.
Oh well, you win some and you lose some. I'm over it now, I had the day off so I went to see Ang's Lust, Caution and REALLY enjoyed it! Although I do feel a bit cheated. Why couldn't the sex have been as graphic in BbM? LOL!
serious crayons:
There's a piece on Slate about Gone, Baby, Gone that's semi-critical. Here's an excerpt:
--- Quote ---Ben Affleck's Boston
His portrait of the city is far from perfect—but at least it's not wicked bad.
By Patrick Radden Keefe
... Affleck's movie feels more grounded in the specific geography of Boston than any other major Hollywood production ever has. And more populated by real Bostonians. But in striving to capture Boston in all its sordid glory, Affleck overapplies the grit. The problem struck me in an early scene in which the camera lingers on a gaggle of daytime boozers, and I swear, more than one of them has a cleft lip. In an effort to cast aside the Hollywood airbrush, Affleck has zoomed in on the freakish underbelly of Boston and somewhat overstated the case. The result is not so much what Mean Streets did for New York as what Deliverance did for Appalachia.
"I wanted something raw and authentic and even a little scuffed up," Affleck told the New York Times recently. For much of the movie, half of Dorchester seems to be standing around outside their creaky wooden houses, just killing time. But as the camera pushes in on dozens of extras—sickly skinny women and gin-blossomed men with complexions like blood sausage—"scuffed up" begins to feel positively generous. At a certain point, the parade of uglies marches past verisimilitude and into freak-show territory. This isn't actually what the people of Dorchester look like. Yes, you can walk into a Dorchester bar and find a healthy crowd at 11 a.m. on a weekday. But give the barflies cleft lips, and you're overdoing it a bit. It's Dorchester by way of Diane Arbus. (continues ...)
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Here's the whole piece:
http://www.slate.com/id/2176404/
Lynne:
Oilgun - will you elaborate a bit on in what ways you felt manipulated by Gone, Baby, Gone? It's interesting to me how people's opinions differ. I liked GBG alot, but I was watching it from a couple of specific points-of-view. I was particularly interested in how well the adaptation of Dennis Lehane's novel was done, the Boston characterization, Casey's performance, and Ben's direction. I read the novel years ago, and it kept me guessing until the very end. So knowing where the movie was going, assuming the original plot survives (and it does), I wasn't in a place to feel manipulated.
I'm not so sure I agree with the reviewer about Dorchester being portrayed as overly gritty. Some of Dorchester is being revitalized and it's not as bad as it used to be, so I think this is probably a good representation of 1990's Dorcester. However, I didn't notice let alone count cleft lips, so I may need a repeat viewing. ;) I do know that they really toned down the violent tendencies of Patrick Kenzie's friend, Bubba, compared to his character in the novel.
Crayons - glad you enjoyed Michael Clayton. :)
I think American Gangster is next on my list...
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