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Resurrecting the Movies thread...
southendmd:
--- Quote from: ineedcrayons on March 05, 2008, 09:44:13 am ---I defy you to find an exception in Kevin Costner's case, though. A week or so ago, I watched the first 10 minutes of Mr. Brooks and knew I wouldn't be able to stand it. I switched it off. Too horrible. I watched The Heartbreak Kid instead, which I thought was going to be stupid but turned out to be kind of (emphasis on the kind of) funny and cute.
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I agree KC has done a lot of junk. But he was irresistible in No Way Out in 1987, and, I'm still a sucker for Field of Dreams (just try watching that with your father...)
MaineWriter:
--- Quote from: southendmd on March 05, 2008, 11:16:16 am ---I agree KC has done a lot of junk. But he was irresistible in No Way Out in 1987, and, I'm still a sucker for Field of Dreams (just try watching that with your father...)
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Oh, No Way Out. I forgot that one. I loved that movie! And to be honest, I liked Dances With Wolves the first time I saw it, but now it seems sort of trite.
Front-Ranger:
--- Quote from: susiebk on March 05, 2008, 11:27:11 am ---I am a long-time Costner fan. I love him in Dances with Wolves and No Way Out, and even (I admit it) Waterworld and Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves.
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My favourite KC films are Dances With Wolves and Tin Cup.
ednbarby:
Oh, Susie - here we have our first lovers' spat: I cannot stand Kevin Costner. I remember thinking he was good at the time in No Way Out and Bull Durham, but on watching them years later on TV, I could see him acting the whole time. I'm a sucker for Field of Dreams, though, but I don't think he does any acting in that - he's just being Kevin Costner, albeit a considerably less boring version.
The only movie I think he was ever good in and still do is American Flyers. I thought he stole every scene he was in in that one, when it was really the other guy's (I can't even think of the actor's name - that's how much he stole it) show.
I've been referring to KC for many years now as "The most boring man in America." If you've ever seen him interviewed, you'll see why. He's not quiet and introverted and mysterious like Robert DeNiro - he's BORING.
*backs slowly out of room*
serious crayons:
Wow, so much to respond to!
Re Jane Fonda:
--- Quote from: MaineWriter on March 05, 2008, 09:53:32 am ---Yes, this is true. And why did she have to get back into the movies, anyway? Georgia Rule and Monster-in-Law certainly aren't shining stars in the cinematic firmament. LOL
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I know! They're tarnishing her reputation more, in my view, than her visit to Hanoi! ;D She was once a really good actress. So why bother to come back at all, just to be in crap? So much better to go the Julie Christie route, and come back only for a really good role. It's not like she needs the money, is it?
--- Quote from: oilgun on March 05, 2008, 11:00:19 am ---I don't mind Diane Keaton and Jane Fonda (etc.) playing unsympathetic characters, I just wish they did it in movies worth seeing, lol!
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Exactly! The problem with Diane in TFS was that she wasn't supposed to be unsympathetic, she was supposed to be a wise, beloved matriarch. That movie was soooo deeply flawed. For me, it was also the last straw for Sarah Jessica Parker, who gets on my nerves anyway. And let's throw in Dermot Mulrooney, whom I sometimes like but don't feel very attached to. Even Claire Danes didn't come off looking great. Rachel McAdams and Luke Wilson are the only ones I don't like less after that film, and only because I've seen them in enough other things where I do like them.
Re Kevin Costner:
He's always totally delightful in romantic comedies: Bull Durham, Tin Cup, The Upside of Anger. He's also good in dramas with a mostly lighter tone: Field of Dreams, Silverado, the way-underrated A Perfect World. I'd put Dances With Wolves in that category, too, though I'm afraid that like Leslie I might find it trite at this point.
I don't like him in movies where he has to frown the whole time. I thought he was out and out bad in JFK. I don't recall him adding much to The Untouchables. No Way Out I don't remember very well, but from what I do recall I kind of suspect I'd like it better for the screenplay than for Kevin.
As for what he's like in real life ... I can't say I've ever read or seen an interview with him. If so, it must have been boring, because I don't remember it! :laugh: But with a few exceptions (are you listening, Mel Gibson?) I don't care what people are like in real life as long as they entertain me onscreen. Though they do get extra credit for being appealing in real life.
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