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gay jesus?
milomorris:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on April 02, 2015, 10:23:59 am ---I recall reading--but I don't recall where reading :-\ --that the supposition has been that it was John, because John is referred to as "the disciple Jesus loved." Also, apparently the Last Supper was actually a Greco-Roman--style banquet, with everybody reclining on couches of some sort, and John apparently shared a couch with Jesus. As he was dying Jesus also gave his mother into John's care--or so the Gospel says.
Personally, I think it's wishful thinking.
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hehehe...I'm sitting here laughing at the idea of Jews lounging around during Seder.
Giving one's mother (or wife, or any other family member) into the care of another man is something that was done among men who shared a personal brotherhood bond. These types of bonds were quite common in ancient times, and I have read where Peter and Andrew, and Phillip and Bartholomew also shared something like it. It is easy to draw homoerotic conclusions about men who form these bonds, and many have done so with the bond between St. Sergius and St. Bacchus which was formalized via the ritual of Adelphopoiesis. And I'm not saying that homosexual men did not engage in these bonding rituals, I only point out that most of the men who did so were not romantically involved with each other.
milomorris:
--- Quote from: brokeplex on April 02, 2015, 10:32:23 am ---within the context of "personal salvation" it matters to the individual.
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I suppose it can be important to an individual. But I have to wonder: does a woman (for example) need to consider Christ in a female form in order to achieve personal salvation?
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: milomorris on April 02, 2015, 10:46:56 am ---hehehe...I'm sitting here laughing at the idea of Jews lounging around during Seder.
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That is kind of funny, isn't it? And perhaps an indication that the Last Supper was NOT a Passover Seder.
southendmd:
"Every group envisions Christ in their own image from their own context."
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR5vupwpRJc[/youtube]
milomorris:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on April 02, 2015, 12:16:37 pm ---That is kind of funny, isn't it? And perhaps an indication that the Last Supper was NOT a Passover Seder.
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Well, according to Mark 14, it was a Passover meal.
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