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x-man:
Are there any Tarot enthusiasts in BetterMost besides me?  If so, I would like to hook up (cyberly).  I have been interested in Tarot since 1970.  I use the Rider-Waite deck and the newer Gay Tarot deck.  I see Tarot as a way to access the unconscious, and am not into the occult or magic.  Practical authors I look to are ones like Bunning, Colette Brown, and of course Eden Grey.  For theoretical understandings I look to CG Jung, Eric Neumann, J. Campbell, and Mircea Eliade.  If you are a fellow Tarotian, let me know.  We can talk.

CellarDweller:
I don't know much about the tarot deck, but I have had my cards read a few times.  Pretty interesting.

Front-Ranger:
Hi x-man and Chuck!

It seems like BetterMost contains everything under the sun, and that includes tarot. Here are links to the major tarot-related threads:

Share your tarot card readings!
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,17656.0/all.html

The Brokeback Tarot Card Deck
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,15556.0/all.html

x-man:
Actually FR I am not surprised to discover you have a Tarot thread.  I read it with great interest.  I will confine my comments to the first 5 readings you described.  

I am not familiar with the book you are using as a reference.  From what you say, I wonder if it might depart somewhat from other Tarot books especially in its treatment of the character of the 4 suits.  I take what it seems to say about Swords, but I get no indication that Swords are the “trouble” suit.  With virtually every card in the suit there is a sombre overlay.  The Tarot deck is comprehensive enough that it can say similar things in many ways—whether by individual cards or combinations, especilly 2 cards  often found together which change the meaning (called “pairs).  So it is significant when the Tarot chooses to use a particular suit to say something.  I am thinking especially here of the first card in your first reading, 7Sr (This is the 7 of Swords reversed—I'm going to use more traditional Tarot notation to save space—it's like chess notation and is easily gotten used to.)

The usual interpretation of 7S has to do with unstable efforts, only partial success in a plan being carried out or that it may fail.  And it can also refer to someone trying to steal something.  Now, when it is reversed the contrary of the first meanings is suggested—good advice or counsel.  The deck has many ways of saying good advice, etc.  Why did it do it with Swords?  It suggests to me that good advice or counsel must be read with an undercurrent of the problematic—a much darker interpretation than would be there if the same idea had been done with, say, Wands, which would seem like the obvious suit to say it.  It's your reading, of course, so what I say here may have no bearing on it at all, but it raises in my mind the several books—and online Tarot meanings—present Tarot as entirely optimistic.  Believe me, it isn't, and wouldn't be a very accurate depiction of reality if it did.

In the readings I looked at, I could find no question being asked of the cards.  General readings without a question, especially when done for oneself, are possible, but believe me  you can get a lot more precise if you present your inquiry in the form of a question, no matter how expansive or vague the question might be.  Quetions regarding the time when something is likely involved can be helped a lot by a well-formed question, although there are other ways to deal wth time.

It is very interesting when a particular card keeps reappearing in succeeding spreads—and when they morph into other cards.  In 3 of your your first 5 readings we find the KnP, in the 3rd reading reversed.  I notice you interpret the KnP as situational.  Another way to see Court cards is as referring to actual people.  In this case, perhaps you.  You might think that the Q would more appropriately indicate a woman of your age—except that the K and Q of a suit carry a sense of completion about them (not unlike Hexagram 63 in the I Ching) that the Tarot might be wanting to avoid and so has the Kn instead of the Q instead.  You know what Pentacles lean towards—a preponderance of the material, importance of money, luxury.  The Q would be the comletion or success in these matters, the Kn is somebody still on his (her?) way there.  The reason I am raising the possibility of the KnP as referring to a person is because in the 3rd reading we find the KnP reversed—changing, and the AW shows up—the classic case of the beginning of an endeavour.  In the 4th reading we find the AW changing into the 2C—suggesting that beginning may involve a relationship,.  This interpretation would be borne out by the Lovers replacing the 2C—furthering it.  Anyway, these are a few of the things that would occur to me to wonder about.  But you were there, I wasn't.  I am too far from it in time and space to have much definitive to say about it.

From your description of the cards I suspect you are using a Rider-Waite deck (or one based on it).  That deck is a must-have.  For books I wouls suggest:

Learning the Tarot by Joan Bunning (Google her, she also has an online course for free, but the book is better.)  This book is by far the best general book on Tarot I have ever seen.  The subtitle is “A Tarot Book for Beginners,” but it is more than that.  It discusses pairs, both opposing and reinforcing, which you don't often see in books.  In paperback.

Any book by Eden Gray.  His book is a short concise reference.  It comes in mn many titles and shapes, but they are all the same book,  Most versions in paperback.

Tarot: From Novice to Pro in One Book by  Colette Brown.  I'm not sure it lives up to the title, but it does have some useful stuff you won't easily find elsewhere.  

There is also a DVD, “Tarot Stripped Bare” available from Amazon.  It would be good for an absolute beginner, but has some good stuff for more experienced people, and is nice that you can put it on and lie back and just absorb information about spreads and meanings without hunching over a desk.  I just got it to add to my Tarot library, and am glad I have it, although it isn't necessary.  It will show you how a reading is conducted if you have never seen one.  The deck used is very similar to the RW deck I mentioned above.

Let me know if this is at all helpful—or to tell me I am full of shit.  Next time, if anyone is interested, I would like to tell you about The Gay Tarot deck.  I was VERY impressed.

(I hope I haven't offended you by commenting on your readings.  I am not at all trying to tell you how to interpret them.  I just wanted to point out some aspects of interpretation in general you might not be familiar with.)


 
 

CellarDweller:
I'm interested in hearing about the gay tarot deck.

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