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Little boy Ennis/ fireworks scene
Penthesilea:
Thanks to you all for your posts.
Well, actually I had another thought when posting the OP, but found it was too far-streched. But some of your thoughts fit to it and so I'll throw it in anyway:
Maybe the boy is not the embodiment of the boy Ennis once was, but of the boy Ennis should have been (when he was a child). The boy he could have been, had the situation at home been other.
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It's simply that to me the boy in the film seems more carefree and openly curious, more freely fascinated, than I imagine Ennis ever was,
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An environment that would make the small boy learn to cover and hide, teaching himself to curb and disguise any expressions of delight, frank curiosity and inquisitiveness on his part.
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Add the glasses and the boy's proper clothing: to me he made the impression of being well looked after. Add the fact that his parents took him to the 4th of July celebrations and let him enough leeway to play with other boys in the crowd.
Looks like a pretty normal/happy childhood. And yet the boy is fascinated but cautious with the fire(cracker). Some people simply are more cautious, more reserved, more quiet by nature. So is this boy - and so is Ennis. But growing up oppressed and then alone made the quiet Ennis taciturn, made him scared not cautious and insecure not reserved.
Toast:
Little Boy Ennis?
--- Quote from: Penthesilea on November 02, 2006, 07:27:10 am ---Whenever I see the movie, there's always one little boy that sticks out to me from the crowd in the fireworks scene. Unfortunately I couldn't find a screen caption with him in it, so I hope my description will be enough.
It is at the beginning of the scene, he is one of the boys trying to light the firecracker. First we see two arms and the firecracker, then we see one boy. He wears a denim jacket, a straw cowboy hat, a plaid shirt and a beige bandana. He has blonde hairs and wears glasses.
Everytime I see him, he reminds me of Ennis. I can't help but think he is Ennis. Well, kind of embodiment/materialization of the boy Ennis once was.
In this scene, plenty of people are to be seen, but two of them really stick out to me and one is said boy. His face has not a notably alikeness to Ennis, but the rest fits. He looks like a miniature edition of Ennis. He wears glasses and Ennis did not as a boy, but he should have.
Though he reaches down to light the firecracker, he is not the one who does it. His hand pulls away. And he seems to be a bit frightened of the firecracker who has just been lighted. Fascinated by it, but also backing off from it.
I've never seen anybody mentioning this boy, but for me he is very noticable.
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Old Man Ennis?
--- Quote from: Penthesilea on November 02, 2006, 07:27:10 am ---The second person that catches my eye is an old man, sitting on the ground. His clothes are held in Ennis's colors, too and he waves a little American flag. He watches the turmoil around the bikers.
With him I am not so sure, my feeling is not so strong as with the boy, but I think he could portray Ennis as old man.
We've talked about other man with black/white hats representing the respective other to our cowoboys in some scenes (during Jack's dance with Lureen for example).
Maybe in the fireworks scene there are two persons representing one of our cowboy's self at a different phase of his life.
If so, what does this mean? And can you think of similar representaions for Jack? Bobby comes to my mind, in the combine driving scene, as possible representative of Jack. And it would be logical to have no representative of old Jack.
Your thoughts?
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Way Cool Penthesilea
Toast
Penthesilea:
Hey Toast,
thanks a bunch for adding these pics to the thread :-*. They're cool 8).
I had looked for screen caps of these two guys, but couldn't find.
Noviani:
hi, anyone may know why Ang Lee make the 4 july scene? is that in the short story?
is that to show how manly Ennis can be despite his relation with same sex? that's kinda shallow though the more i hera myself guessing it that way.
Brown Eyes:
So, has anyone spotted a black hat anywhere in the fireworks scene?
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