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Offline Brown Eyes

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Re: Shakesthegrounds Rumblings
« Reply #3870 on: February 15, 2008, 11:21:20 am »
Well, I saw the original interview and Jane was referring to one of the most famous monologues in the Vagina Monologues that's actually titled with the "c-word."

The whole point of that monologue is to confront that word or to try to re-claim it into something more positive (and to think about ways that might be possible or to question if that's desirable).  The fact that people are so scandalized by Jane's simple use of the word in an interview about a play in which that word features prominently... sort of proves the point that the "c-word" monologue is trying to make.

I guess the main point, is that folks react so emotionally and so strongly to that word (in much the same way that they react to the n-word) because it's often associated with so much violence and hatred.  

But, there is a fairly prominent strain in certain feminist discourses all about trying to appropriate that term as a "power word," etc.  I suppose the Today Show audience isn't prepared for edginess or a confrontational stance so early in the morning.

Actually, when Jane said that word I think she was being very deliberate and was actually trying to act on some of the messages from that monologue in "real life."

I personally wasn't offended by it at all... in the context of how and why Jane said it.



And, on the topic of the word "dyke"... I think the issue of trying to "re-claim" the "c-word" is much the same.  Although, I think "dyke" is much less offensive to begin with.  Anyone who's familiar with the phenomenon of "Dyke March" pride parades will know that lots of lesbians have no problem at all with that word when using it themselves.  I've actually participated in two Dyke Marches in Philly in the past.  If a homophobic person uses the word "dyke" it's entirely a different matter, of course.


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Re: Shakesthegrounds Rumblings
« Reply #3871 on: February 15, 2008, 11:59:03 am »

"that itch you can't scratch".


 :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

I haven't seen that one!
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Re: Shakesthegrounds Rumblings
« Reply #3872 on: February 15, 2008, 12:02:42 pm »
Yeah i would like to be able to see the whole interview, because the sound bite they have on youtube is not enough to know what is going on, and the media is not going to cut her any slack.
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Re: Shakesthegrounds Rumblings
« Reply #3873 on: February 15, 2008, 12:07:54 pm »
Yeah, I want an apology from the network for that commercial they showed for a treatment for genital herpes while I was eating my supper last night. ...  :P

 :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

Elizabeth asked what Gentle Herpes were and could she get one?  ::)
I said what do you think it is? She said it was like a gentle little pony.
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Re: Shakesthegrounds Rumblings
« Reply #3874 on: February 15, 2008, 12:15:11 pm »
Lard Gawd!   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :-\ :'( :'( :'(
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Re: Shakesthegrounds Rumblings
« Reply #3875 on: February 15, 2008, 12:45:34 pm »
Q: What a lovely dog. What's its name?
A: "Herpes"...If she's good, she'll heal.

Who remembers what this is from?

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Re: Shakesthegrounds Rumblings
« Reply #3876 on: February 15, 2008, 12:48:17 pm »
Elizabeth asked what Gentle Herpes were and could she get one?  ::)
I said what do you think it is? She said it was like a gentle little pony.

Well, what did you tell her? Can she have that pony?  ;D
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Re: Shakesthegrounds Rumblings
« Reply #3877 on: February 15, 2008, 12:48:37 pm »
Q: What a lovely dog. What's its name?
A: "Herpes"...If she's good, she'll heal.

Who remembers what this is from?
I know I can't remember.
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Re: Shakesthegrounds Rumblings
« Reply #3878 on: February 15, 2008, 12:49:38 pm »
Well, what did you tell her? Can she have that pony?  ;D
I told her it wasn't "gentle" Herpes. I said is was somthing little kids don't need to know about.  :laugh:
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Re: Shakesthegrounds Rumblings
« Reply #3879 on: February 15, 2008, 12:53:34 pm »
I told her it wasn't "gentle" Herpes. I said is was somthing little kids don't need to know about.  :laugh:

Well, but what about the pony, Daddy, hunh?  ;D  :laugh:
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