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pastorfred:
--- Quote from: magicmountain on January 23, 2007, 06:08:08 pm ---SPOILER
Now I'm going to be provocative here. I am probably the only one who thinks Ennis is being a bit precious here about his physical inviolability. Women have had to put up with gropes and fugitive kisses since the dawn of time. It won't hurt Ennis to get grabbed occasionally. He working in a gay bar for heaven's sake not a sunday school dance hall. And anyway didn't we get the impression that Ennis' constant urge to give Wayne a spanking masked a secret attraction!
Ennis should get over it and Wayne should get an invite.
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You're absolutely right: Women have been victimized by groping and fugitive kisses for a very long time. When women slap, kick, bite, and otherwise discourage those who violate them, I say, "You go, girl!"
Ennis should not tolerate this behavior, and he probably could not enjoy the party if Wayne were invited. Worse, if Wayne is in fact showing early signs of AIDS - related dementia, he should be pitied, probably hospitalized, and cared for with compassion, but he should not be permitted to inflict his illness on other people in any way.
mariez:
--- Quote from: MaineWriter on January 23, 2007, 05:56:13 pm ---...but providing support and help does not mean an automatic invitation to a wedding reception.
Leslie
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Yes, that's what I've been struggling with. I think we can all agree that we feel terribly, terribly sorry for Wayne. But that is a completely separate issue from the reception and being invited to the reception. The party is supposed to be a "small circle of friends." So the question is, does Wayne qualify as a friend? I think Ennis would say "no." Would Ellery would say "yes"? I don't know the answer to that question. I haven't got a handle on what Ellery's relationship was like with Wayne way back when. Wasn't Bill pretty much running the bar when Wayne was the tender? Did Ellery have that much interaction with him? I don't know. . . I guess Ellery is the only one who can answer that question.
And, yeah, David, I remember that whole Rock Hudson/Linda Evans thing, too- and that crossed my mind.
--- Quote from: pastorfred on January 23, 2007, 06:18:58 pm ---CONTINUING SPOILERS
You're absolutely right: Women have been victimized by groping and fugitive kisses for a very long time. When women slap, kick, bite, and otherwise discourage those who violate them, I say, "You go, girl!"
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Right on, Fred! And, again - completely separate issue from the reception!
Love reading all these great comments!
Marie
Lumière:
I vote Wayne gets an invite for mostly selfish reasons ..
he is a hoot and he is mostly entertaining to me! :P So sue me .. ;D
Jokes aside .. E&E have the right to choose who they have at their reception and if they decide Wayne doesn't get an invite, so be it .. (although I'm sure he'll try to sneak in..! lol)
ifyoucantfixit:
well i must admit, i have a dual idea on this subject..at first i said i thought
wayne should be invited...he is a lonely person, and always somewhat of an outsider
to the ones he wants to be part of the group. with. he is however a loose cannon
and has been warned by lauren,,, he was told in no uncertain terms to behave.
where on he continues to behave in a mannor that isnt what he has agreed to.
now he can no longer be trusted to act appropiately, therefor has to be considered
to be unacceptable at the reception...something he has caused....whatever the
reason.
richardg49:
Going out on a limb here (and I'm quite ready for someone to come along and saw it off!), but I'm beginning to detect a gender-specific division over the big question of 'Should Wayne get an invite?' [For the record, I'll state my view very simply - No. He's not a friend of Ennis; Ennis has final say of who should come, so why would he invite Wayne?]
I notice though, that most of the people here who say 'invite Wayne' are women and those who say 'don't invite him' are men, insofar as it is possible to tell at all. Is this because women are more compassionate, forgiving and Edna-like in their treatment of people with dysfunctional qualities, wheras men generally are more hard-nosed, dogmatic and Ennis-like, basically saying 'I don't like you, you sumbitch, keep well away from me.' ? Given that its going to be a very-male-dominant party, and that most or all who will be there dislike Wayne as much as Ennis does, I think the men's opinion would be the one that matters most.
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