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Why does Ennis....
Katie77:
--- Quote from: Penthesilea on December 23, 2006, 05:07:50 pm ---I
And still, after all these months and viewings: I can understand Jack's reaction, that he pulled away as long as he retained a rest of his dignity.
But sometimes I ask myself what would have been, had Jack been more insitent? If Jack had said he'd come back later that night, if he had stood right before Ennis' door again some hours later, determined to stay at least that one night?
Had there been a tiny chance? I still tend to think that there would have been at least a tiny chance for Jack to coax Ennis into something different. But maybe that's only the helpless romantic in me.
But I'm aware that one thing is for sure: the story/movie wouldn't have worked the way it does, had the outcome of this scene been different.
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If Jack had been more insistent, and also if Ennis had been a bit more hospitable....gees, Jack had just driven all that way, and Ennis sent him on his way after only just a few minutes.....
Seeing as Jack was there, why didnt they work out a time when the girls had gone home and they could at least have some "alone" time.
.....and if that all would have made the story different, so what, why couldnt it have been a happy ending love story?????
nakymaton:
--- Quote from: Penthesilea on December 23, 2006, 08:35:04 pm ---So it might be nitpicking, but I don't agree with your wording. People can act in different ways, with different outcomes and those outcomes have repercussions on the person. But that doesn't mean the person will be an entirely different person.
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No, I meant what I said. Or maybe to put it another way: in order for things to have come out differently, Jack and Ennis would have had to have been different people. A different character than Ennis might have moved in with Jack; a different character than Jack might have forced the issue with Ennis. But not the two characters in the movie.
Any story that changes the outcome is no longer about Jack and Ennis.
jpwagoneer1964:
I have always felt that had Jack lived Ennis would have come around. One big reason, his daughters were nearly grown, a huge reason up to then he wouldn't leave Riverton.
Mark
Front-Ranger:
Why does Ennis call his father, who he suspects of being a murderer and a bigot, a "fine calf roper" ?
jpwagoneer1964:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on December 28, 2006, 07:36:28 pm ---Why does Ennis call his father, who he suspects of being a murderer and a bigot, a "fine calf roper" ?
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I thing doesn't have anything to do with the other.
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