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Saddam executed; Your thoughts?
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: injest on December 30, 2006, 09:10:37 pm ---morality and legality are decided by the majority so that would be pointless
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True, but there can be exceptions. The Quakers, are one group, the Amish another. Exceptions are made even in a country where the majority rules.
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: DavidinHartford on December 30, 2006, 09:08:42 pm ---Why did they put a scarf around his neck to prevent rope burn?
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Ah, I guess, for the same reason they apply alcohol to a criminal's arm before they put in a lethal injection. Mustn't invite a nasty infection, eh?
Or after wrestling a perp to the ground, subduing him with Mace, tasers or clubs, the police put him in handcuffs, drag him to the car, then put a hand on top of his head to prevent a nasty bruise should the guy bump his head on the car door. :)
Wayne:
--- Quote from: DavidinHartford on December 30, 2006, 09:08:42 pm ---Why did they put a scarf around his neck to prevent rope burn?
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It was actually a hood he was supposed to wear but he did not want to wear it.
I found the transaction mildly touching. Saddam says no, and the man who was supposed to put the hood on puts his hand on Saddam's chest and offers to put it around his neck instead. Saddam shrugs his shoulders, and the man proceeds.
Wayne:
--- Quote from: DavidinHartford on December 30, 2006, 09:08:42 pm ---No, I don't think we should have the death penalty for lesser crimes. But for the inhumane? Why keep them around in a warm bed with 3 square meals a day?
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We don't seem to mind doing that for Rumsfeld, who was there right through the atrocities that Saddam was hanged for. And everybody loves Reagan - we didn't get around to hanging him.
Maybe there's a different perspective from Rumsfeld, but I sure would like to hear it! Reagan's not around to fill us in on his side of the story.
What I'm saying is, Saddam did what he did with the explicit support of the Reagan administration, whom the US populace subsequently re-elected in 1984 with full knowledge of what he had done. (I voted against him with fervor, but others prevailed.) So where does the guilt end? How many more should be hanged?
I say none, because I oppose capital punishment for all cases and in all circumstances. But for those who believe that those responsible for the killing at Dujail should be hanged, there are many more involved.
I think our culture has made Saddam a scapegoat (read the Wikipedia article for details). We have attributed to him the evils that we committed and have killed him to atone for our sins. I think it is wrong to do this, because it lets us think of ourselves as righteous when we are not. I think it makes the United States more likely to treat other countries badly in the future the same way we are treating Iraq badly now. It is our fault that they have been without water and electricity for four years.
We gave him money in 1982 to do what he did in 1982. In 1983 we said we were happy with what he was doing. Twenty years later under the direction of the same people (Rumsfeld, Cheney, etc) we invaded Iraq to capture him and turn him over to be executed for doing what we gave him money for in 1982. Just seems weird! :-\
injest:
Wag the Dog....we are talking and looking at Saddam...and not Bush.
Karl Rove studied Nazi techniques..and uses them very well
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