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Mary Renault Book Discussion
injest:
--- Quote from: Zander on January 12, 2007, 10:32:48 am ---
I think he models for a Herm so it would be more of a Hermes / Eros look (Eros isn't that intersting ;) ) The Herm was often just depicted as a phallus, so again something to consider about the skills of MR.
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I think we need to wait a bit on some of these pics...but lets keep them bookmarked....particularly the one on the Allure thread...(sorry, don't think he is dark enough for Alexias...remember he took after his mother!)
injest:
--- Quote from: TXdoug on January 12, 2007, 10:39:31 am ---Sweet dreams...the "Old Man" I was asking you to comment on is " The Old Man" who becomes Alexias' friend at school.
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but that IS Socrates!! The next to last line in the chapter tells us...
"Whoever came to Sokrates, no matter by what absurd chance, felt afterwards that he had been directed by a god."
I love how MR drops these names on us....as if these figures from the mists of myth and time are just regular guys living down the road! :laugh:
Do ya'll believe in this 'second sight' Socrates claims? I do....my father could foretell deaths...on more than three occassions he woke us in the night to tell us a relative was dead. (at the time we had no phone how he knew they were dead and the circumstances of their demise is a mystery)
MR put a lot of wisdom in the words she gave Socrates...how much of it was actual quotes from the real Socrates and how much she made up I don't know. (It is my understanding that Socrates left no written records of his teachings and the only things we know of him are from the writings of contempories including Plato)
From this chapter...
when asked if he was not embarrassed to be taking music lessons with young boys.
his answer:
"It was much more disgraceful for an old man not to learn what could make him better, than for boys, since he had had time to know the worth of it;"
he continues
"a god came to me lately in a dream, and told me to make music. But whether with the hands or in the soul, he did not say; so you can see I ought not neglect either."
How many of us would have the courage and determination to back up our beliefs so completely?
sometimes it is not so much what everyone thinks that is important...sometimes for our own souls we have to do as WE think is important...
TXdoug:
Jess...Thanks for setting me straight about the Old Man being Socrates. This is really all very new to me. I am not really familiar with the writings of the author , her style, or the Greek Civilization Period or stories she so wonderfully writes. Oh by the way would you e-mail a copy of the FULL picture of your reply # 167 on The Allure of Man thread ? Thanks :)
injest:
LOL!!!
sorry that is all I have!!
you want the website address?? ;)
TXdoug:
thanks for your reply, Jess. I will be happy looking at the picture as you posted it. :laugh:
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