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Kerry:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on January 02, 2007, 08:32:37 pm ---Ah, it's good to be king. Certainly Hephaestion understood it and probably didn't love Alexander any less for it, but that doesn't mean he liked it.
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It is my personal belief that Hephaestion never ceased loving Alexander. Just like Jack never ceased loving Ennis. :'(
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: Kerry on January 02, 2007, 09:33:50 pm ---Alexander and Philip did not enjoy a loving father/son relationship. They didn't have a lot in common, from what I can see.
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Well, that's not surprising seeing as how Phillip was away a lot on campaign. Alexander was very likely his mother's son more than he was his father's.
--- Quote ---Let's remember that the pages you refer to were not the little girly boys with page-boy haircuts of fairytale fame. These pages were tough young louts, hardened by years on campaign. They were not delicate in any way. And they were young men - not boys.
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As I recall reading, the pages were under the age of 18. At about 18 or so, they went into the army. So yes, they were at times, boys.
--- Quote ---With respect, steer clear of Alexander according to Oliver Stone (LOL). Though, having said that, I did enjoy the movie - but strictly as a confection.
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Actually except for the psychological angle of Alexander in the movie which was pure conjecture, Stone was extremely accurate in his movie almost to a fault.
Kerry:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on January 02, 2007, 11:00:05 pm ---Actually except for the psychological angle of Alexander in the movie which was pure conjecture, Stone was extremely accurate in his movie almost to a fault.
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Now that's what I call a page-boy hair-do - on Alexander! :o Ugh! ::)
There was a joke going around at the time:
"Hey, have you heard that Alexander the Great was a homosexual? And IRISH!!!" :laugh:
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: Kerry on January 02, 2007, 11:11:29 pm ---Now that's what I call a page-boy hair-do - on Alexander! :o Ugh! ::)
There was a joke going around at the time:
"Hey, have you heard that Alexander the Great was a homosexual? And IRISH!!! :laugh:
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Yeah, I dunno what the deal was with the wig. Wasn't Alexander the Great's hair supposed to be a 'tawny' color?
injest:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on January 02, 2007, 11:00:05 pm ---Well, that's not surprising seeing as how Phillip was away a lot on campaign. Alexander was very likely his mother's son more than he was his father's.
As I recall reading, the pages were under the age of 18. At about 18 or so, they went into the army. So yes, they were at times, boys.
Actually except for the psychological angle of Alexander in the movie which was pure conjecture, Stone was extremely accurate in his movie almost to a fault.
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remember that in this time the idea of childhood was much different than ours...girls were married between 13 and 16...any older and her prospects were dim...
on what are you basing your definition of boy? yes, Alexanders pages moved into the Companions when they turned 18....that doesn't mean that other teens weren't serving already in the reg regiments...
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