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A different viewpoint
Ellemeno:
Thanks for posting this, Katherine. I want to wrap Ennis in a dozy embrace of comfort. I haven't welled up with tears in months over this film, but here I am now...
As to Jack's "You going to do this again next summer?" - I can see Jack's point of view that the unspoken was "Because this was the most wonderful summer of my life and I want to be able to look forward to more." But from Ennis's point of view, I could see it not sounding like much more than something to which you would probably reply "See you round then." They were only 19.
Garry, I love what you wrote too.
Get marlb42 here! :)
Ellemeno:
--- Quote from: goadra on January 14, 2007, 12:15:14 am ---Ennis gave Jack at least ?maybe?: ?I guess I?ll see you around, hunh?? Sounds like at least a mild invite to me. (Little did he know how right he was, seeing all those Jack doppelgangers, and the first just a few seconds later...)
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Jack Twist? Jack Doppelganger!
:)
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Ellemeno on January 14, 2007, 12:27:10 am ---Get marlb42 here! :)
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Well, I sure encouraged her to stop by!
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: injest on January 14, 2007, 12:09:41 am ---hmm..
maybe
maybe Ennis was so upset that he couldn't take the opening...he didn't want to 'do this again next summer' he was hurting too much to see that far...he wanted to keep doing it NOW...
and was maybe a bit angry at Jack for not acting as upset as HE felt...
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Could well be true, Jess, but, with all due respect, I think it's beside my point, which was simply that in my view, to say that Jack "said nothing" by his truck outside Aguirre's office is factually inaccurate. Jack asked Ennis if he would come back next summer, and Ennis, in effect, said "no," which pretty much shut down the conversation.
And, BTW, I'm not saying that I disagree that Ennis feared losing Jack. Even after nearly 20 years it's abundantly clear to me that Ennis did fear losing Jack. My point is just, very strictly, that I think what happened outside Aguirre's office when they came down off that mountain in August of 1963 does not support marlb42's position.
Cameron:
Hi all of you, I decided to come out of lurkdom to respond, again I do thank latjoreme for posting my thoughts.
Anyway I am fully aware that Jack asked 'are you coming back next summer" and then Ennis said he's getting married in November and then see you around. What I specifically originally meant and I see now wasn't clear was that after Ennis said see you a round, he still stood near the truck for a while as if he was still waiting for Jack to say something more so that they should stay together now and not separate.
On the mountain Ennis waited for Jack to take the lead, Jack was always riding ahead of Ennis and when the sheep were mixed up Ennis asked Jack 'what do we do now?', I think that Ennis knew that the sheep had to separated, I think that meant that the relationship was up to Jack at that point.
I think that because of Jack's coldness about leaving the mountain, and the fight, and Jack's spiting in front of Ennis path on the way down, and Jacks rejection of the cig, I think Ennis took all those things to mean it was over for Jack.
At the truck, because Ennis was feeling so rejected, he did not take the 'are you coming back next year' as "I love you and I don't want to lose your" which he wanted to hear, I think he took it also as a rejection and that the whole thing did not mean that much to Jack at that point.
So when I wrote that Ennis waited, I meant that after that Ennis still waited, he did not leave after he said 'see you around' he still stood at the truck at that point in hope that Jack would say something more.
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