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A Ninth Viewing Observation
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: Sason on September 11, 2009, 02:46:53 pm ---I didn't mean that Ennis had hopes in the motel scene. I meant that Jack had.
Apart from that I agree with you re Ennis. I don't think that the idea of building a life with Jack
ever even occured to him.
He might have wished he could see Jack more often, but having a life with him? No, that wasn't
within Ennis's frame of reference.
I don't think Ennis married Alma and wanted to stay with her just out of convention. I think he really
wanted to have a family, what he had been bereft of at too early an age.
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I think Ennis may have liked the idea of having a family in an abstract sense. Yes, he wanted children and he liked the idea of fitting into the conventional picture of a family (I think a desire to conform to a kind of convention is a big part of this for Ennis). But, I don't know how happy the reality of that lifestyle was for him. Clearly his specific experience of living with Alma wasn't particularly joyful (for either of them).
Sason:
No, it wasn't particularly joyful for either of them.
But I don't think Ennis really expected anything better than that,
he wasn't a man with high expectations on life.
He settled for what he got. "I'll stick with beans".
Alma, otoh, wanted and expected something better, hence the divorce.
Sammi:
I wonder why Jack left so easily in the post-divorce scene. Watching this a few times, it seems like he kind of gave up without a fight. Ennis gives a few lame excuses, the visitation with his girls, etc. and then Jack just say OK see you next month and leaves. After driving all that way to stay for only a few minites? Why not protest right then, or say meet up with you later, something. It seems like his leaving was so abrupt. This was such an awkward and heartbreaking scene. The entire vibe of the movie changes after this.
Shakesthecoffecan:
I think he feels foolish, he has totally lept to a conclusion and he was off base. And I think he knew, Ennis would never commit.
Monika:
--- Quote from: shakesthecoffeecan on December 03, 2009, 12:28:34 am ---I think he feels foolish, he has totally lept to a conclusion and he was off base. And I think he knew, Ennis would never commit.
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yeah, I think he tried to save some of his own pride. He must have felt pretty foolish standing there.
I think this is one of the most cruel scenes in the entire movie.
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