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A Ninth Viewing Observation

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BBM_victim:
Yes, Front-Ranger, it could be taken either way, but the effect will be different, right?? The question is - which one do YOU prefer?  :D

By the way, i take my quotes from http://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/movie_script.php?movie=brokeback-mountain, i don't know how accurate this source is. It says there Ennis says "Sorry I can't stand much anymore, Jack...".

Actually, it can also mean both at the same time. I sure do like the idea Ennis is begging Jack to stop the fighting because he can neither hear anything about Jack's anguish (because it's tearing him apart) nor can he bear him saying any much more because you know how it is in fights - you say a lot of emotional things which you actually don't want to say at all. Ennis on one hand does not want to hurt Jack anymore and on the other he is a very inarticulate guy, right? He does not know how or what to say to Jack's accusations while being full of emotions, being about to explode. How must it feel if you are about to explode but don't know a way how to let it all out?
I do like to take it this way because it shows just how much Ennis loves Jack, how much he opens up to Jack so that he is begging him and just how much Jack in turn is loving Ennis because he would understand Ennis plea. Again, an exchange full of love in itself.

But, you know what, i the end, even if we take it this way, it still does not preclude Ennis' change. Even if he IS saying he cannot stand the fighting (as opposed to the setup of relationship) anymore, this does not mean that Ennis goes back and does not start to consider a change.



I have to giggle.. This is SO great! This story is truly magical, a work of a genius!! No matter how much is twisted or how different something can be interpreted, the core of the story never changes!

Penthesilea:
I just checked on youtube. Ennis says "I can't stand this anymore, Jack."
I think he means their whole situation, not the current fight.
He starts to see the light, so to say, thus the breakup with Cassie. I do believe that movie-Ennis has the potential to change, however small the baby steps might be.

On a side note, it breaks my heart to see Ennis so forlorn at the Greyhound station (of all places!) - and that is even before he gets the postcard about Jack's death.

BBM_victim:
LOL, so now we have 3 different opinions on what Ennis says! But, well, actually it does not affect the fact that it can be taken either way (i don't intend to start any fight over this one ;) ).

Hey, Penthesilea, thanks for sharing your emotions on seeing Ennis at the station. Actually, this scene did not had the same impact on me. Sure, Ennis looks quite ruminant to me and i think it is important that he is this way, because i my opinion he is about to step out of his comfort zone in order make a change in his relationship with Jack and maybe he is also afraid of it.
My personal "breaks my heart" scene is when Ennis is walking outside the Twist ranch (put a pic). He can hardly walk  :'(. At the station he still has Jack (at least he does know he's dead yet), but here he is really left alone in this world :'( .
 Ah, and the other "breaks my heart" scene when Ennis reads the postcard and after comparatively long time a hushed "ghah" escapes him :'( [don't know how to write it even down...].

But, back to your perception of Ennis at the station - could you explain why this feels so heartbreaking to you? I would really love to hear :)

Penthesilea:

--- Quote from: BBM_victim on May 17, 2017, 02:18:05 am ---But, back to your perception of Ennis at the station - could you explain why this feels so heartbreaking to you? I would really love to hear :)

--- End quote ---

Easy one ;). Because he doesn't know yet, but we do. He's so sad and lonely already and I know the worst thing is yet to come.

And of course it's no coincidence that we see him at a Groundhog station. Ennis, who never goes anywhere except around the coffeepot looking for the handle, is sitting broodily at a place where people go to travel places. Not saying Ennis chose the G. station on purpose, but Ang Lee did.
So the Lake scene with "I can't stand this anymore", plus him being so forlorn plus the fact of the Greyhound station, plus his exchange with Cassie - all these are details that make me believe Ennis is ready (or getting there) for some changes (small baby steps of course).

BBM_victim:

--- Quote from: Penthesilea on May 18, 2017, 12:28:57 am --- Ennis is ready

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Amen to that! I think so, too!

I watched the ending yesterday again and noticed something new for me yet again. Had any of you noticed Ennis' sleeve when Jack catches him?? I totally lost it yesterday  :'( :'( :'(. Ennis is literally in rags, on his knees, crying!  :'( Clutching to Jack and pressing his head to Jack's chest with such a force!
Could Jack have ever possibly "moved on" after this?!? That would be IMO out of character of the "ministering angel" and i do believe Jack loved Ennis too much to ever "move on".

In the short story and screenplay it also says that Ennis had only 2 shirts when he came to Signal, buttons missing, both of them did not wear any underwear, Ennis even no socks (he does wear socks in the movie, though). I also remember how Ennis put on his best shirt when waiting for Jack after 4 years.... How painful should it be for his self-esteem as a "male" (in his own perception of "masculinity") to having to face Jack like that? (Sure, there are other examples, too: Ennis' truck, his post-divorce cabin, the sleeve on his jacket when talking to Lureen does not look much better either...)

Oh, Ennis....  :'( Jack was really his all and everything...

[Now I really feel so bad about joking about Ennis' jacket on "stupid question" thread  :'(]

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