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Jake's father was a gay man?
brokebackjack:
Interestin, I read it this morning but hadn't seen the NY version in some time. Makes me wonder how big a fit she had when she saw it and realised they forgot to print the prologue LOL.
I think SS and film have to be taken separately and then together, each on its' own merits.
And, if AP herself thought the film brought what she intended to life, who am I to disagree?
RossInIllinois:
--- Quote from: brokebackjack on March 29, 2007, 03:08:59 am ---Interestin, I read it this morning but hadn't seen the NY version in some time. Makes me wonder how big a fit she had when she saw it and realised they forgot to print the prologue LOL.
I think SS and film have to be taken separately and then together, each on its' own merits.
And, if AP herself thought the film brought what she intended to life, who am I to disagree?
--- End quote ---
For myself, once I read the short the film seems very "watered down" and kind of "Hollywooded up" although still a good adaptation.
Artiste:
Thanks brokenbackjack and RossInIllinois
In those times of Ennis and Jack, there was no discussion about if Jack's father was a gay man (a homosexual). I think that in most countries even to-day (maybe even everywhere), if one is or is not a gay man, is still not a discussion!! But many will kill you if think think that you are!! - I say!!- as Although, many think that a gay man should and must be killed even!! A gay man has no right to talk neither, it seems to me!! Iran and other countries kill gays, for instance, line them up even, and they are shot by the government!! Because it is viril to kill anyone?? We are still in the cave days in 2007, I say!! Even on this site, most do not ask themselves: could Jack's father be a gay man!!?? Taboo is still this as a subject!!??
I am a gay man, I have lived in many places in the USA, I have lived in many places in Canada; I could never talk to most people about gay life (not even to gays!!), nor about mine nor about others being gay, too too rarely so, as this subject even seems to be a taboo in the gay communities too or somewhat so!! Even to-day, most gay sites on the internet, gay men talk about penises or frivolous subjects if I may say, not about real life of being a gay man!! So to ask oneself, or is/was your father a gay man, is absolutely rare a subject!!??
As somewhat in Annie's story, there is a law of silence (do not talk about gay life and do not ask if your father is gay, etc.), then and to-day!!?? I am not queer, says Ennis!! I am not neither, replies slowly Jack!!
That bothers me, as a gay person!! It is true that I heard that word queer, ih those days and still do,
not just by straights, also by gays - which puzzles me!! Why??
No one is even strong enough to dare ask about pedophia!!?? No one can!!?? It was too in the USA and Canada, that homosexuals were considered only pedophiles - not that long ago, and many still do that or think that!! Thanks goodness that we (gay persons I think it was) asked the journalists (newspapers writers and others) not to use that word concerning adult men having sex (etc.) with other adult men!! Most countries still think homosexuals are pedophiles, it seems so as even presidents of certain countries say so as they think so, being ignorants!!
The question I am asking, (is) Jack's father gay?, I think a respectable question that needs to be addressed in many ways yet!!??
Is Annie asking: is Jack's father a gay man, maybe she is asking that?
Thanks to all as all comments have been great!! Welcome to continue to talked about this, etc.,
hugs!!
RossInIllinois:
I don't feel the short or the move hints at all that Jacks father might be gay just angry and broken IMO. This would have taken away the focus of the story line.
Artiste:
Thanks RossInIllinois!
You are right!!
However, there are underlined secondary plans that Annie talks about??
I feel that: Jack's father being maybe a gay person, is one.
It seems to me that Annie does take that as a subject!
Do you think?
Hugs!!
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