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Ennis and Jake are homosexuals, bi-sexuals or??
Front-Ranger:
I agree with brokebackjack and ednbarby that there are gay men who have sex with women and marry and have a family. Just because they do so does not make them bisexual. There are also gay men who would not even touch a woman much less have sex with her! And it's also the same way with gay women. Brokebackjack, LOL, too much information! Who among us hasn't barfed while having sex, if you haven't you haven't been trying hard enuf!!
RossInIllinois:
For me its much more black and white. If you sleep with men exclusively you are homosexual (Gay). If you sleep with Women you are Heterosexual. If you are sexually able to have sex with both genders you are bi sexual. (weather or not you choose to admit it). Its a very simple concept to me.
whiteoutofthemoon:
Once again, Ednbarby, I disagree. You have NO indication of what Ennis's tendencies or attractions were prior to meeting Jack, other that he was leading a straight life. We as the viewer have no idea why Ennis's dad showed him the dead body as a kid; you are making presumptions that were not at all in the book nor the movie. Ennis did not seem attracted to Alma only AFTER he met Jack, which to me was not so much that he had given up on women entirely, but he had fallen for another person, who happenned to be a man. How do you know that Ennis wasn't madly in lust with Alma before Brokeback, and had regular intercourse all the time? Heck, they had two daughters pretty darn quick, which means that he was at least enjoying some intercourse!
So, back to my original question, if Ennis had never met Jack, how would you, or Ennis himself, know that Ennis was gay? I am not defining being gay or straight by what someone does, remember, I disputed that. But, if you have someone who is married, has kids, demonstrates no attraction whatsoever that he is attracted to men, never has that suspicion in himself (until he meets his "jack"), then how can you possibly label him as gay?
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RossInIllinois:
--- Quote from: whiteoutofthemoon on March 25, 2007, 03:36:05 pm ---Once again, Ednbarby, I disagree. You have NO indication of what Ennis's tendencies or attractions were prior to meeting Jack, other that he was leading a straight life. We as the viewer have no idea why Ennis's dad showed him the dead body as a kid; you are making presumptions that were not at all in the book nor the movie. Ennis did not seem attracted to Alma only AFTER he met Jack, which to me was not so much that he had given up on women entirely, but he had fallen for another person, who happenned to be a man. How do you know that Ennis wasn't madly in lust with Alma before Brokeback, and had regular intercourse all the time? Heck, they had two daughters pretty darn quick, which means that he was at least enjoying some intercourse!
So, back to my original question, if Ennis had never met Jack, how would you, or Ennis himself, know that Ennis was gay? I am not defining being gay or straight by what someone does, remember, I disputed that. But, if you have someone who is married, has kids, demonstrates no attraction whatsoever that he is attracted to men, never has that suspicion in himself (until he meets his "jack"), then how can you possibly label him as gay?
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You can't. hence the bisexual moniker. ;D
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