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Why was the Dozy Embrace so sad?

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loneleeb3:
Ok!@ We're gonna have to call the Sherriff!
Can't we all just get along? I think both points are valid but next time lets have it out in a PM.
This was a beautiful thread (IMHO) and know it's a slug fest.
Sorry, just my two cents.

I just had to add this. I watched the you tube link you had.
Fred Phelps and his inbred followers are not even Christians. This is not how the mainstream Christians or even your more fundementalist Christians operate or believe.
This guy is a nut job and most of the parishoners in his so called Church are his own family members. Jesus said you will know my flock by their fruit (paraphrasing) meaning that you will know a true follower of Christ by how they act and what they do.If they behave as Jesus did and follow what he said then you know. I'm sure Jesus weeps over people like this even speaking his name.
Saying all Christians are like this is like saying all Gay men are like, I don't know, Ru Paul or some other drag queen. It's like saying all Muslims are terrorists, all black people are criminals etc etc.
The reason I didn't pm this is because I wanted people who do watch this to know what a whacko this guy is.
I am a Christian and this guy is most definitly not.
No hard feelins jack? I agree with a lot of what you said but this guy is no way a spokesman for Christianity.

HerrKaiser:

--- Quote from: brokebackjack on April 24, 2007, 09:04:07 pm ---

If you wish to be indignant about demeaning and intimidating slurs perhaps you should be indignant at the continual demeaning and  intimidating slurs emanating from both groups.


--- End quote ---


Look, to me it is very simple...

Painting over half the nation of "republicans" and over 90% of the nation of "Christians" with the same, negative brush that you have done, jack, is by definition a bad use of stereotyping. It is a bigotry and it is 'hate' speach, as defined by those who actively assess the PC language we should use.

I'm sorry, just because a person is a member of a so-called minority group or claims some sort of victim status does NOT give that person the right to use vernacular or actions that he/she is fighting to eliminate from being used by others. If this concept is not clear and unquestionably agreed to, there is no hope. And, those who cannot live by such a basic undertanding will only help perpetuate the disunity of our culture and distrust of people who are different. Thanks for listening.

brokebackjack:
This belongs in PM's

And exactly WHERE did i malign all Christians??

Exactly WHERE did I malign all Republicans?

This is in nothing so much as your own head; I dumped on fringe groups

loneleeb3:

--- Quote ---I dumped on fringe groups
--- End quote ---
Most of them deserve to be dumped on! ;D

Cameron:
It certainly is not my place to tell anyone what they should write and say. I do believe that this place is for everyone to express their thoughts and feelings.

But I have to be honest, I started this thread to write and talk about the incredible beauty and heartbreaking sadness of the Dozy Embrace.  There have been a lot of wonderful thoughts expressed here about that breathtaking scene.

But I did just have to say that it does make me rather sad to read what has been happening here.

I do believe that everyone has the right to express what they feel, so I decided to do so too.

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