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injest:
I have an aunt that wanted to be a fashion designer....drew wonderful designs when she was younger...

has buried three husbands, and been on welfare her entire life. Now she is dying from cancer...

so I think....would her life had been happier if she had NOT dreamed of being something more? something above her station in life??

dot-matrix:
I think it is our dreams that give us hope.  That is what I see as Jack's essence in this story, Hope.  His life and his survival are based on it when we meet him, he gives it to Ennis who was desperate for it.  The striving for a dream, just like always having the fishing trips together to look forward too combined with their deep and abiding love for one another is what made the hard lives these beautiful lonely souls lived bearable.

dot-matrix:

--- Quote from: injest on April 04, 2007, 10:09:05 pm ---I have an aunt that wanted to be a fashion designer....drew wonderful designs when she was younger...

has buried three husbands, and been on welfare her entire life. Now she is dying from cancer...

so I think....would her life had been happier if she had NOT dreamed of being something more? something above her station in life??
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Is it even possible to "dream" above your station in life?  I don't think so.  Being a Fashion Designer is something that was very within your Aunt's reach as a young woman if it was something she really wanted.  Seems to me that we make choices everyday that affect those kinds of dreams... example:  Somewhere along the line, she made choices and decisions that changed that potential, but she made them and they were her's to make since it was her future and her dream that it altered.  I'm not sure I'm explaining this right but I hope you see what mean :-\

injest:

--- Quote from: dot-matrix on April 04, 2007, 10:10:42 pm ---I think it is our dreams that give us hope.  That what I see as Jack's essence in this story, Hope.  His life and his survival are based on it when we meet him, he gives it to Ennis who was desperate for.  The striving for a dream, just like always having the fishing trips together to look forward too combined with their deep and abiding love for one another is what made the hard lives these beautiful lonely souls lived bearable.

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or did it make it worse? cause as much as the anticipation as there was....there was that much anguish when they had to part. If Jack had accepted that he couldn't have this dream maybe he could have lowered his expectations and been happier...

injest:

--- Quote from: dot-matrix on April 04, 2007, 10:16:35 pm ---Is it even possible to "dream" above your station in life?  I don't think so.  Being a Fashion Designer is something that was very within your Aunt's reach as a young woman if it was something she really wanted.  Seems to me that we make choices everyday that affect those kinds of dreams... example:  Somewhere along the line, she made choices and decisions that changed that potential, but she made them and they were her's to make since it was her future and her dream that it altered.  I'm not sure I'm explaining this right but I hope you see what mean :-\

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see this is where I think people who have never been TRULY poor understand reality. We hear these incredible stories about people that overcome poverty and go on to be doctors or lawyers or millionaires....but we hear them BECAUSE they are unusual and rare...if a LOT of people were overcoming poverty everyday...it wouldn't be news!!

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