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--- Quote from: jessiwrite on September 19, 2006, 02:00:18 pm ---I think he and Focus made sure they were in line with each other. I think he gave us no more then he thought he must, concernting the m/m sex, and made sure he added m/f sex enough to perhaps ease more people.  After the reunion we have to really use our imaginations or sump'in, to feel they had sex.
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I have sometimes wondered if a fear of turning off straight viewers might have contributed to his downplaying of sex in the second half. But personally, even if it was a factor I don't think it's the main reason. I think anyone who made it through the first half could probably handle a little more in the second half. And IMO his main objective for that restraint was to emphasize the "never enough time" theme. By withholding scenes of physical affection, I think he intended to help the audience feel Jack & Ennis' frustration. If you ask me, it worked a little too well!

jessiwrite:

--- Quote from: latjoreme on September 19, 2006, 04:30:43 pm ---I have sometimes wondered if a fear of turning off straight viewers might have contributed to his downplaying of sex in the second half. But personally, even if it was a factor I don't think it's the main reason. I think anyone who made it through the first half could probably handle a little more in the second half. And IMO his main objective for that restraint was to emphasize the "never enough time" theme. By withholding scenes of physical affection, I think he intended to help the audience feel Jack & Ennis' frustration. If you ask me, it worked a little too well!

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I never thought of that, or heard it mention.  Something to ponder.  It made little impact on me, I mean making such a difference in the book and movie, the book making sure we knew they had good sex still,  for I surely felt the not enough time in the book as well as the movie, strong enough that it still feels like a kick in the gut.  I feel the not enough time was referring to far more than the sex.  I am glad I have the book to read about their infrequent coupling and how intense it still was.  Their need and love for each other would destroy or give them life.

jessi

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I think the book and movie take different strategies because they have to tell their tale in different ways. In the book, the narrator can just say outright "the brilliant charge of their infrquent couplings was darkened by the sense of time flying, never enough time, never enough." Or the narrator can mention that the clock in Ennis' pocket was ticking to symbolize passing time. Or whatever. In the movie, there's no narrator, so that information has to be conveyed by dialogue, symbolism or some other way. So the screenplay has Jack say "never enough time" in the lakeside argument. And I think this is another way the filmmakers chose to emphasize it.

jessiwrite:

--- Quote from: latjoreme on September 19, 2006, 05:46:42 pm ---I think the book and movie take different strategies because they have to tell their tale in different ways. In the book, the narrator can just say outright "the brilliant charge of their infrquent couplings was darkened by the sense of time flying, never enough time, never enough." Or the narrator can mention that the clock in Ennis' pocket was ticking to symbolize passing time. Or whatever. In the movie, there's no narrator, so that information has to be conveyed by dialogue, symbolism or some other way. So the screenplay has Jack say "never enough time" in the lakeside argument. And I think this is another way the filmmakers chose to emphasize it.



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Sadly, the movie may have just sent half the message, the not enough time.  The movie didn't let us know about the brilliant charge still beomng there.  Even a tease with Jack reaching his cold hand between Ennis' thighs or a passionate kiss, a bit of sex in the tent, something to let the viewers know that the spark was there and still importantl.  I am so glad we at least saw them sleeping together, however briefly.

jessi

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--- Quote from: jessiwrite on September 19, 2006, 06:07:44 pm --- Even a tease with Jack reaching his cold hand between Ennis' thighs or a passionate kiss, a bit of sex in the tent, something to let the viewers know that the spark was there and still importantl.  I am so glad we at least saw them sleeping together, however briefly.
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I totally agree!  :-\

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