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Who had Control and Used it: Jack or Ennis?
jpwagoneer1964:
Artiste
Did you get the PH#'s of those men that stayed with their families till the kid grew up. Sound like my kind of man! Kind if character I'm looking for! Personally I would have anything to do with a guy ( not a man in my view ) that left his family because he decided he was gay, no matter how pretty or how engaging the personality.
Artiste:
Thanks all !!
Interesting!
Hugs!
chelseagirl:
Ironic isn't that Jack died still marry, and Ennis was the one with the divorce. But Jack wanted the "sweet life", Ennis still resisted that idea. Isn't insteresting that Jack who was willing to give everything up for Ennis, stayed with Lureen, and Ennis lived alone.
Why do you think this happen? Honor? Or the reason that Jack instinctively knew that this is what Ennis wanted? If Jack did leave Lureen that maybe feared that Ennis would resist to the point of not wanting to see him again because this would lead to the danger he feared so much? To live that life Jack wanted and open them up to danger.
loneleeb3:
--- Quote from: chelseagirl on May 17, 2007, 06:58:23 am ---Ironic isn't that Jack died still marry, and Ennis was the one with the divorce. But Jack wanted the "sweet life", Ennis still resisted that idea. Isn't insteresting that Jack who was willing to give everything up for Ennis, stayed with Lureen, and Ennis lived alone.
Why do you think this happen? Honor? Or the reason that Jack instinctively knew that this is what Ennis wanted? If Jack did leave Lureen that maybe feared that Ennis would resist to the point of not wanting to see him again because this would lead to the danger he feared so much? To live that life Jack wanted and open them up to danger.
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Those are great points CG!
I think part of it for Jack is that he enjoyed the status and the financial aspects of the relationship.
I don't think it was honor cause he's a chucked it all in a New York minute if Ennis ever gave the word.
I also don't think Jack liked to be alone.
Now Ennis, he was different. I think he tried to do what society says you are but just could never make it work because thats not who he was. I think he was a gay man in a time when it was even harder to be that then it is now. I don't think he could process those feelings. The only time he was ever whole and ever happy was with Jack. It hink he would rather be alone than have to struggle in a relationship that was just window dressing.
Artiste:
Thanks chelseagirl!
You make good points.
May I try to qualify in two ways:
I think that Jack did have a certain appreciation from his wife because she was agressive and there; as she went after Jack for sex... and beauty as Jack smiled beautifully at her and as he was shy in some delicious ways. May I qualify there as present in the home and/or house, but she became nearly just in the house.
She was similar to Ennis, that way, as being just present!
In some ways, Jack married Ennis by letting Lureen lure him in! Ennis did do some luring too, wanted Jack even first sight, as seen in the movie, remember? Ennis even asked Jack for sex, right?
Hugs!
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