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BM movie is anti-gay??
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: tampatalon on December 02, 2007, 04:30:46 pm ---Artiste, BBM Mountain is pro-gay. The straight people who made BBM are courageous and heroes in my eyes.They
took a financial risk to make a movie that helps gay people. There are anti-gay slurs and scenes in BBM to show
how gay people are were treated and had to live.This may help some people understand us.Alma used the word
"Jack Nasty" most likely because at the time she lived perhaps she did not know a better word.Let me give you an
example.My great grandmother called automobiles "machines" because she did not know the word automobile.
TampaTalon^">
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Great story about generational changes in speech patterns. My cotton farmer grandfather knew the word for truck, but I still remember him routinely referring to his truck as "that piece of broken down ****" Different generations, he could have bought a new truck, but he was determined to keep that 1950's piece of ****** going until he died.
jstephens9:
I'm not so sure that Jack would have appreciated Ennis calling him "Jack Nancy" That just would not go along with the movie :)
Artiste:
Thanks jstephens9, and thanks brokeplex!!
Jstephens, if you re-see the movie, you will notice a part where Ennis asks Jack if he plays with other men?
And in a way, Ennis tells him off like calling Jack Nancy somewhat like that, since Jack went for sex in Mexico!!
This is a hard scene!! ?? Right?? How did Ennis knew of such a place (Mexico for sex)?? Is this also in the book? Or is it only an film mine??
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Brokeplex, you perplexe me with your comment with your cotton farmer grand-father, but you got me in a way, I think!! The approach of your grand-father is like Ennis who also continues to hope that Jack will be his lover, even in the above and after it!! Ennis cries... falls on his knees and is held by Jack in tenderness!! That is the best scene as a tragedy, which is acceptable to me, like your grand-papa did love his old love (car), instead of finding a new love. At least they hugged then... and more time is given for friendship, instead of a too quick departure!!
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Both of you are interesting!! I am grateful for your comments and thoughts!! Like a jury trial, we see the evidence of difficult times seeing the movie. Is it anti-gay in some ways?? It remains to be proven as only pro-gay?? Is there a certain kind of disrespect in some ways making it anti-gay?? Or is it all respectful as being pro-gay??
Some questions... remain to be thought about!!
Hugs, hugs!!
Artiste:
Something real (or unreal) happened to-day at the dentist office.
An old woman was there waiting with her entourage. She was wheeled in with a walker. Since we both waited for the dentist to call either one of us, we talked a lot... unfortunately or fortunately!! She was very agresive with me and asked me often questions. She noticed my moustache, so she got a joke about that from me... since I said that women have moustaches too, but she said that they do NOT!! Then... as to my way, she sang two songs.
After she was seen by the dentist and I had too, again we were in the waiting room. There, she dared asked me if I was married!
I felt that she was Ennis's wife! That had she seen the BM movie, that she would be anti-gay after seeing it!
God knows... I do not!!
Hugs!!
Shakesthecoffecan:
--- Quote from: Artiste on December 06, 2007, 05:39:12 pm ---Something real (or unreal) happened to-day at the dentist office.
An old woman was there waiting with her entourage. She was wheeled in with a walker. Since we both waited for the dentist to call either one of us, we talked a lot... unfortunately or fortunately!! She was very agresive with me and asked me often questions. She noticed my moustache, so she got a joke about that from me... since I said that women have moustaches too, but she said that they do NOT!! Then... as to my way, she sang two songs.
After she was seen by the dentist and I had too, again we were in the waiting room. There, she dared asked me if I was married!
I felt that she was Ennis's wife! That had she seen the BM movie, that she would be anti-gay after seeing it!
God knows... I do not!!
Hugs!!
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She probably wanted to find out if you were available for herself Artiste, you should be flattered.
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