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BM movie is anti-gay??
Artiste:
Thanks Scott!
Have you considered that there is an accent on the women, on Ennis and Jack's wifes??
Is that not TOO strong to make the BM pro-gay??
Hugs!
Scott6373:
--- Quote from: Artiste on October 25, 2007, 10:15:28 am ---Thanks Scott!
Have you considered that there is an accent on the women, on Ennis and Jack's wifes??
Is that not TOO strong to make the BM pro-gay??
Hugs!
--- End quote ---
No...you are focusing on the depicted homosexuality far to literally. As I have said before, the sexuality, and the setting (rural west) were tools that the author used to illustrate her moral lesson: Self acceptance, accountability, and intolerance.
Alma was no more educated than any other character. What she saw, was her husband displaying passion with someone other than her. Passion that was gone from their drab existence. Passion that she desperately wanted, and was promised. How would you react?
As for Lureen; She knew about her husband. Most women of certain life situations know. She just didn't care, other than her pride being bruised. She only married Jack to piss off her father, so in that case, both parties were using the other.
Again, as I have said, this film was not made with the intent of being some great anti-homophobia statement. It's intent was much simpler and purer in nature.
brokebackjack:
well the whole tale is a story of what we call DRH, destructive rural homophobia. So we have to remember that. It is all contained within the framework created by Annie, who will TELL you it is a story about a self hating character [Ennis] and a marginally skilled character [Jack]....Ask FrontRanger, she was there for that. And Annie told me, myself, at other times that this story cannot be divorced from DRH. It is what it is about; everything is within that framework. This story is about the total destruction caused to EVERYONE intimately involved with Jack and Ennis by DRH.
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Alma saw them on the steps. She KNEW.
Lureen had it all come together during the telephone call with Ennis. She was in love with Jack.
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and what I meant artiste was that if I was Alma, in the thanksgiving kitchen scene of the movie, I would have hit Ennis over the head with a dinner plate.
what a DOPE he could be. jesus.
jstephens9:
Artiste, one thing I hope you are not saying is that women like the movie because they are anti gay. I'm really not sure what you are saying, but I know you said something about a female here being pro women and hating the gays. Like I say, I'm not positive what you meant. I just want to make sure that you know this group is almost half women and they are certainly not anti gay. Like I say, just want to make sure you know that.
Jack
Artiste:
Thanks jstephens9, thanks brokebackjack, and thanks Scott!!!
I am surprised by your anwers, jstephens9 and brokebackjack, as well as yours too Scott but a little less (I do not know why less)!!!
However, on second thought, should I be surprised that you 3 are all males? Why no females on this subject? I must have gotten on something?
It seems evident that the BM movie is anti-gay, or should I say now: that females now like to dislike gays in more than one way because of this BM movie?
1- Concerning Scott's reply, he says that I am focusing far too much: on the depicted homosexuality far too literally? So there, you Scott are telling me that the BM movie is NOT on gay-men-living principally? Therefore, the BM movie is for straights??
2- Brokebackjack, you say that the BM movie is about: destructive rural homophobia? To that, may I say that it is also about destructive CITY homophobia TOO?
3- And stephens9, likely it seems evident according to some internet sites that some women are anti-gay after seeing this BM movie, as they say so! Other women accentuate that those (what they call GAY-men) should not at all have married to ladies!! That concerns me... a lot; why should not gay men marry women?
Well, here are maybe 3 ways that the BM movie is anti-gay??? Be happy to read
your news,
hugs!!!
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