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Title: Scene Discussion: Making Breakfast
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 17, 2007, 03:28:02 pm
Here is another interesting scene in the movie. Here we see Ennis making breakfast for Jack as Jack rides up from a nite on the mountain in the pup tent that smells like cat piss or worse.

Notice something interesting about this scene? Here's a hint: We see a lot of things in twos...cans of BetterMost beans, salt and pepper, etc. But there's one interesting thing that is solo. What is it?

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Title: Re: Scene Discussion: Making Breakfast
Post by: Penthesilea on June 17, 2007, 03:40:42 pm
We're playing quizzies tonight  ;)? Okay, I'll play along  :).

Ennis's glove and this thing are solo:

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I have no idea how it is called in English, and this time my online dictionary doesn't help either.

The fork is not solo, because it's a pair with the frying pan, and the coffeepot is not solo because it's a pair with the bucket.
Title: Re: Scene Discussion: Making Breakfast
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 17, 2007, 05:13:17 pm
Very good sleuthing, Chrissi. That thing is called a sieve, and I'm surprised about how often it appears in the movie. It is used to separate excess liquid in a dish such as ... soup!

I am hazarding a guess here that the cooking implements and the farming implements serve similar purposes in advancing the symbolism in the movie.

Now about the glove...you are right that Ennis is only wearing one glove. To show what is important about this, I have to go over to my other computer...just a sec.

Title: Re: Scene Discussion: Making Breakfast
Post by: RodneyFL on June 17, 2007, 05:24:53 pm
For one thing, a bull rider wears only one glove.  Any parallel to that???
Title: Re: Scene Discussion: Making Breakfast
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 17, 2007, 05:35:53 pm
You're very warm, Chrissi and Rodney...

Yes, a bullrider only wears one glove, particularly when said bullrider wants to gauge the "temperature of the coffeepot" so to speak!! And here is said bullrider now!!


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Title: Re: Scene Discussion: Making Breakfast
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 17, 2007, 05:37:50 pm
I just wish that danged ax wouldn't be forever pointing at his haid!!
Title: Re: Scene Discussion: Making Breakfast
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 17, 2007, 05:43:52 pm
For a discussion called "Hand in Glove" you are invited to click here as soon as you see the little white glove:

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,4692.0.html (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,4692.0.html)

Title: Re: Scene Discussion: Making Breakfast
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 17, 2007, 07:00:33 pm
Another thought about the ax...what if it has a greater meaning like the gun and the knives do? Not just that Jack is doomed, but something else. . .  It's interesting that the ax is a double-headed ax. In ancient Minoan civilization, this kind of ax was known as the labyris and it was a sign of the goddess. There was an ancient ritual, described by Mary Stewart in the book The King Must Die, where youths from mainland Greece were sacrificed by being sent to Crete where they learned a sport that included flipping over the back of a charging bull. A huge bull, an object of worship as well as fear, was kept in a maze/enclosure called a labyrinth, named after the double-headed ax.

Title: Re: Scene Discussion: Making Breakfast
Post by: tampatalon on July 30, 2007, 02:53:10 am
All the items in pairs are maybe representative of Jack&Ennis as a pair and Ennis with the sieve could represent how Jack slips away from Ennis in death as their relationship drains away so painfully with Jack's passing yet to come?

tampatalon
Title: Re: Scene Discussion: Making Breakfast
Post by: mvansand76 on July 30, 2007, 06:40:38 am
You're very warm, Chrissi and Rodney...

Yes, a bullrider only wears one glove, particularly when said bullrider wants to gauge the "temperature of the coffeepot" so to speak!! And here is said bullrider now!!


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Soooo this shows that in the first picture Ennis is holding the (probably scalding hot) pan with a glove on, while in the second picture Jack takes his glove OFF to grab the (probably scalding hot) coffee can!

Does that say something about how they approach life, with and without caution?

Title: Re: Scene Discussion: Making Breakfast
Post by: shortfiction on July 30, 2007, 08:38:21 pm
Coffee pots sure get a workout in this film.   Besides what has been already mentioned, Ennis bangs on the pot when Jack finishes his song.  Also, isn't it the pot that Ennis is washing out in the stream when he gazes up at Jack on the mountainside?   And isn't it a coffee pot that floats away from him after they have their river-side argument about Ennis's "miserable f***in' life?
Title: Re: Scene Discussion: Making Breakfast
Post by: Penthesilea on July 31, 2007, 06:41:32 am
Coffee pots sure get a workout in this film.   Besides what has been already mentioned, Ennis bangs on the pot when Jack finishes his song.  Also, isn't it the pot that Ennis is washing out in the stream when he gazes up at Jack on the mountainside?   And isn't it a coffee pot that floats away from him after they have their river-side argument about Ennis's "miserable f***in' life?


Yes the coffeepot sure is prominent. You're right about Ennis banging on it and washing it in the stream. But after the argument about the miserable effin life at the river it's not the coffeepot, but a bigger, cooking pot that floats away.
And don't forget that all the travellin' Ennis did was around the coffeepot, looking for the handle.