One evening at home, standing in my living room, I saw these lights seem to flash to my right, and turning in that direction, I saw Segunda, looking corporeal and solid, come running from the hall to the area of the living room. When she got there, she stopped and looked at me with a curious expression on her face--and then, she was simply and suddenly gone. This event acted as further confirmation for me that the spirit endures beyond the body's demise.
Scott
I haven't "seen" ghosts; more like experienced them. Two stories.
In my family we do the Ancestor Worship ceremony at least once a year, usually during the Chinese New Year. Several years ago, as we were preparing for the ceremony, my niece was playing outside. She was 3 or 4 years old at the time, and we hadn't really explained to her what was going on. I don't think she even knew the concept of ancestors. Her understanding of relatives go as far as grandpa and grandma. All the sudden she runs in laughing, screaming excitedly, "Great Grandfather is here!" Needless to say, we were all really shocked. Somehow it was more reassuring than scary to me. I think it certainly helped that my toddler niece wasn't scared at all but rather happy.
My second experience was a rather creepy. I was home by myself one afternoon. The house was cold and I decided to take a nap in my brother's room, which was the only room during the winter that got afternoon sun. I was in a half sleep half awake daze, and I felt a presence standing over me to my left. Thinking it was my brother, I started to greet him. All the sudden the presence fled the room, and I woke up. It suddenly hit me that my brother was at work and wouldn't be home until several hours later. At first I just passed it off as a dream. Later that night, I was in bed just getting ready to sleep. Again I was on that edge of wake and dream, when I head a distinct click from under the bed. I knew right away that the sound came from a walk-man player that I had under my bed. It was the sound of the play button being pressed down. I reach down and grabbed the player and sure enough the button was down. It was an old walk-man, whose play button had to be pressed with a good amount of pressure, so it couldn't have been bumped by some animal or something (btw other than ants and sometimes spiders, there are no animals in my house). In addition, I hadn't played it for years, since I got an iPod, so I was surprised the battery still had juice in them. I was glad that there was no head phone connected to it. I don't think I wanted to hear what I would have heard.
Okay.. I answered "I doubt it but I try to keep an open mind about it" and would actually even prefer answering a very clear 'no', but I had similar things to what you've written David and Scott. I've never lived in anything old (not for a very long time, at least), but I do get the peripheral vision-thing with moving shapes/shadows. But they are always gone when I turn. So I tent to think that my mind plays tricks on me.
As a kid though, in the school library I used to read a book about para-normal things over and over. I remember I was fascinated by it (lots of pictures), which is even more surprising to me today, because, like I said, I tend to think that those things are not possible..
But what do I know?!
~ j U d E
I've never seen anything like what you guys describe, but I've known a few people I consider to be rational and intelligent who have. My sister in law used to work in an office in a renovated Civil War era home in Atlanta. She and her coworkers (three of them) are convinced the house is haunted by someone who wants others *out*.
My parents house was haunted. You certainly would not think it to look at it. A single story ranch in sunny southern California in 1969, but it was. My Mother was the first to experience anything. She had experiences off and on all her life, the first she remembered was at 6 years old.
No. This may surprise 247 of you...
But I think it's a GREAT idea, and if there's a God of some kind, I wish he would bring them on.
Like I said, I don't think they are harmful or mean, they are just there and sometimes I think they want to make sure I know it! :)David, have you ever thought of getting 'in contact' with them? Maybe they want to tell you something. Maybe they need help with something. Isn't there sometimes the issue of 'closure'. They keep appearing until someone helps them 'leave for good'. Er.. or maybe I watch too much television....
If you have had an encounter, or know someone who has, please tell us about it!
I have seen orbs in my house before. Normally I just see them out of the corner of my eye, although a few times I was looking directly at them. Also, my dog Cody has been barking at the foot of my bed during the night for no apparent reason. Many people tell me that animals can often see things that humans cannot. My house was built in 1922, and after I bought it, my neighbors told me a few stories about it.
Whatever it is, I think it is friendly. Also, I often see shapes out of the corner of my eye. When I turn to look at it though, it is gone. :o
I have had bizarre 'dreams' at times too when I see someone, a complete stranger I can't recognise or someone I feel like I have known forever. I used to get a dream of a very tall woman sitting beside my bed sometimes, and in this 'dream', I felt like she was my grandmother (who passed away back in '81) - although my granny was a petite woman, not tall at all. This woman had an air of peace about her and never freaked me out. Stranger things have happened ...
I've had these, too, but in my case they seem so real that I've gone running screaming out of the room. There's something called "night terrors" that they (the ubiquitous "they") say affects about 2 percent of the population. It has to do with something in your brain not switching properly between pre-REM and REM sleep, so that you're basically launched right into REM sleep while still having the feeling that you're awake. In mine, there is someone in the room with me. Usually a male I don't recognize, and/or his face isn't clear. They're never threatening me - just standing there - but I have the very strong feeling they shouldn't be there and I have to get out. Fortunately I haven't had one of these in about four years, now, because they scare the bejesus out of me and everyone else in the house when I do.
I have one friend who's into the paranormal a little bit who thinks these are actually ghosts I'm seeing and my brain just doesn't know how to process it at the time. I guess that's possible. I'm all for anything being possible. But I don't know how probable it is.
I second Celeste's sentiment there!
I have had bizarre 'dreams' at times too when I see someone, a complete stranger I can't recognise or someone I feel like I have known forever. I used to get a dream of a very tall woman sitting beside my bed sometimes, and in this 'dream', I felt like she was my grandmother (who passed away back in '81) - although my granny was a petite woman, not tall at all. This woman had an air of peace about her and never freaked me out. Stranger things have happened ...
Yap, I believe in ghosts ... :)
I absolutely believe in ghosts. I just think they are souls without bodies stuck in a place and time that doesn't belong to them anymore. Nothing too sinister so much as really sad. Like Nipith's story about his niece...I think there's a whole invisible world that exists without the permission of our beliefs.
I don't really believe in ghosts probably because my grandpa told too many stories about it when I was a kid. Some seemed real others were pure BS. But oh well, a lot of hispanics believe in ghosts or spirits to the extent that sometimes there are treated as living things. People talk to them and all. They even have solutions to scare them away. According to my grandpa, ghosts or spirits don't like flowers or inscense smoke, so if a ghost is bothering you, get some natural flowers put them in your home or wherever the ghost is, light an inscence stick, then clap once, loud, and tell the ghost, in a nice way, that he doesn't belong there. Tell them you bless them, but that they must find the light and follow it, or something like that. Anyway, my grandpa used to say there was no reason to fear a ghost, they can't do anything to you. Those who are alive are the ones who can actually hurt you.
VERY interesting stories all! I had goose-bumps more than once! :o
A boy with a knife in my house would freak me out!
David, have you ever thought of getting 'in contact' with them? Maybe they want to tell you something. Maybe they need help with something. Isn't there sometimes the issue of 'closure'. They keep appearing until someone helps them 'leave for good'. Er.. or maybe I watch too much television....
I don't belive in ghosts, I answered. Didn't I...
~ j U d E
I'd like to think there is some kind of exsistance after death. I was at the Cemetary visiting my Dads grave on July 4th and paying my respects. I feel funny chatting to him as I know he is not there. Well, his body is there, but not his spirit. I sure know that my fathers spirit wouldn't hang around the Cemetary waiting for visitors! If he were a free spirit he'd be all of the world if not the universe exploring.
That is why I doubt Spirits visit us. My life is boring compared to what the rest of the world has to offer! LOL. When I die, if I am a ghost, I'll be in Hawaii, not Hartford!
I hope my relatives aren't hanging around watching me 24/7 ! YIKES! Imagine the things they'd see! ::)
As for the second experience, I found that I wasn't scared so much then, and haven't been too scared to be at my parent's house alone either. Every so often I would think that I should have listened to that walkman. That "spirit" definitely made an effort to show itself to me. We had lived in that house for over a decade, by that time, and no one had experienced anything. Was it asking for help? or just saying "hi." If it was looking to play a trick on me, it could have done so much more than pressing the play button on the walkman.
Ok, the stories y'all shared kept giving me the shivers. Brrr. So, THANKS! ;D
I absolutely believe in ghosts.
A few weeks after my hubby died, he came to visit. I was almost asleep and it had slipped my mind that he was dead. I was in bed, laying on my back and was covered by the comforter. I felt him climb in (waterbed) and roll over to my side. He then kissed me and lay on top of me (on top of the comforter). He would do that when he first arrived home, as I worked days and he worked nights as a waiter at a dinner theatre on the north side. I would often be asleep by the time he arrived home and it was his way of gently awakening me if he was uhm, well, frisky. LOL Anyway, he began to be less and less gentle, which was totally unlike him. When I opened my eyes I realized it was not him at all. I just got a glimpse, but it was something "impersonating" him. By the time I blinked and could scream, the weight lifted and it was gone. The indentations remained on his side of the bed (on the comforter) and I slept on the sofa that night. The neighbors never commented about my scream, and nothing else ever occurred there.
I didn't mentioned what happened to anyone, and two days later his best friend called to say he appeared in the edge of her closet (what we determined to be) the night after my experience. We think her's was the real Dav. Not wanting to awaken her wife, she whispered a word only we four would know and the form instantly disappeared.
~Larz
p.s. - we should have a campfire burning while telling ghost stories! :laugh:
edited for clarity...
Tch, Tch. Ok, now you're just screwing with me because my story makes me sound like a wacko! :P
Are you serious? :o
~Larz
Oh my God! Something like this happened to me once too!
People are going to think I am completely whacko after I tell you this...
Anyway, I was sleeping one night and suddenly "something" woke me up. I just woke up, and I don't remember hearing anything. Suddenly I looked up and hovering above me was a dark shadow, and it had big wings. It decended down on top of me and began pushing me down deep in my mattress. It didn't hurt, but it felt cold and I felt like I couldn't breathe. I felt like it was smothering me. I remember thinking "Oh God, Please make it go away" and suddenly it lifted up off of me and disappeared.
I will NEVER forget that. It was one of the most horrible experiences I have ever had. It might have been a dream, but I don't think it was because I jumped up out of bed just after it disappeared. I was definately awake then.
A dream? I doubt it. And I really believe it happened. I have some ideas why this happened to me, but it sure did scare me.
I hope that NEVER happens to me again. >:(
Victoria -
See? That sounds very similar to what happened to me. But it only happened to me one time, thank God. I wouldn't wish this experience on my worst enemy.
It was really, really awful! :(
This is exactly what I've experienced, and what is known in the Sleep Disorders lingo as "night terrors."Hey, Barb--
Hey, Barb--
There is a tendency in my mother's family to experience sleep paralysis. My mother has a history of this, as does a first cousin of mine(my mother's biological niece), and I myself have been plagued by it, but not for quite some time (knock on wood). In my case, I would have the sensation of waking up in bed, being conscious, but unable to move any part of my body save my eyes. It was always accompanied by a sense of dread, of a great urgency to stir myself into mobility, as if something dreadful would happen imminently if I failed to do so. It felt that if I fell back asleep, I would never wake up. After some considerable effort, initiated by rolling my eyes and then eventually moving my jaw, my body would jolt into movement, with my arm flying across my torso, usually. And then, when mobility was unimpeded, the sense of dread would dissipate, and I would roll over and peacefully resume my slumber!
This would seem to suggest that a physiological, chemical, or psychological factor is at work in this kind of experience. I would often note that I would be prone to such episodes when I was sleeping irregularly, such as taking long afternoon naps. For some reason, I haven't had such an occurrence in what must be years by now.
I still say what ever it was that attacked me that night was an evil spirit or a demon.
There is far too much experience in this area to doubt completely and say, "Case closed."; so when it come to supernatural anything, I keep a clear mind, ask questions, listen carefully, apply a sense of reason to what I've heard, stay open to possibilities, make no commitments.
Rayn
I hear voices all the time, usually calling, sometimes screaming my name. I notice coins lying all over my bedroom floor, and I can't account for their presence! I once heard that spirits leave coins for the living. Quarters litter my bedroom floor, my sis gets dimes and pennies. My sister says our grandma's spirit is leaving me quarters because I'm so high maintenance :)
Hi Littlewing! ;D Nice to see you!
I love reading about your haunted house and the coins. I've been writing a long PM and was afraid I'd miss you.
~Larz
When I read your post it gave me a cold chill. I hear deceased relatives and friends holler my name all the time. "DAVID"!! The really scary thing is my dog and/or cat will perk up and look around at the same time I do. They apparently hear it too.
I never heard of spirits leaving coins for the living. My mother (who was 1/2 Lakota Sioux) always told me spirits leave a feather when they visit. The day my mother passed away, I found a large light brown feather laying on my deck. It was laying there by the door, almost as if it was meant for me to find.
*cold chill*
Mom once told me I was "born without the veil". Maybe this is why things are always happening to me.
My grandma says you can see spirits if you are born WITH a veil, a thin film visible on the face of a newborn.
My grandma says you can see spirits if you are born WITH a veil, a thin film visible on the face of a newborn.
I wouldn't depend on pets though. Maybe they're starting because you are. You know how sensitive pets can be to their owner's movements. Heck, they have dogs who can sense an epileptic fit coming on in a person before the person even knows it.
Delalluvia -
I often hear my name called when I am awake (such as sitting in the living room reading the paper). It doesn't always happen as I am going to sleep. In my living room for example, I might hear this voice coming from across the room (I am already facing in the direction the sound is coming from) and the animals will perk up and turn their heads (the animals are facing me) in order to be looking in the direction of this sound. This has happened many times. BUT.... and here is the really strange thing, if my boyfriend Cory is in the room, he will not hear this voice; only me and the animal/animals.
It is hard to explain.
But how do you explain the feather on my back deck the day my mother died? It was a large creamy (beige) colored feather. To my knowledge, there are no beige colored birds ( at least not the color of that feather) in Indiana. Where did it come from? And why did it appear just several hours after mom passed away? Yes, perhaps someone dropped it there (even though I was the only one (no roommates or boyfriend at the time) living in the house at the time of mom's death). But that is a highly unlikely coincidence in my opinion.
My favorite was that the metal fillings in her teeth were acting as antenna/receivers and picking up radio waves from air traffic into her head.
There are some things in this world we will never understand. It's as simple as that. I believe in UFOs too. Someone asked me recently why "people" from other planets would even take an interest in us. Perhaps they are just trying to find out the same thing we are... "is there somebody else out there"? Or maybe there are millions of planets populated with people far more advanced than we are. And if so, there would be a million, maybe more, "space ships" or UFOs out there flying around having a look at everything. And perhaps every now and then, one of those space ships just happens to fly past Earth and they decide to check us out! :DIf one refers to the original definition of 'UFO', any reasonable person should be able to believe in them. All 'UFO' originally meant was 'unidentified flying object'--ANY object seen flying that could not be identified was a UFO if and until identification could be made; nothing necessarily extraterrestrial or paranormal about them.
You might consider starting a new poll on UFO's, David. It would be interesting to see how our members responded.
There are striking parallels between fairy lore and many of the contemporary accounts of UFO and abduction experiences. Could they both be manifestations of the same phenomenon, interpreted according to differing cultural and historical circumstances?
Someone asked me recently why "people" from other planets would even take an interest in us. Perhaps they are just trying to find out the same thing we are... "is there somebody else out there"?
We used to live near an airport, so we came up with all sorts of crazy possibilities. My favorite was that the metal fillings in her teeth were acting as antenna/receivers and picking up radio waves from air traffic into her head.
I'm slightly telekenetic and you'd have to hear some of the "explanations" to believe them. My favorite so far was one about a bedside table that moved suddenly enough to trash both a lamp and an alarm clock: that it was a "gravitational eddy." :o
I have to say that while a gravitational eddy is simply the explaination of someone desperate to fill the blank in "I don't know why that happened", I still believe that there is a rational explaination for things.
The thing is it's ok to say "I don't know" without that automatically meaning "A ghost did it!"
By the way, if you have control over your telekinetic powers to any degree, there is an organisation offering a $1million reward for proof of any supernatural, paranormal or occult gift or event.
http://www.randi.org/research/index.html (http://www.randi.org/research/index.html)
I am sincere when I say I am willing to believe in any of these things once proof is obtained using good sound scientific methodology. I hope this doesn't come across as an attack on your belief in the paranormal, but I am an adherent to the "Western superstition", and felt compelled to explain my position.*
*OK I don't expect anyone to be interested but ;)
I really don't know whether that's a believable explanation or not. However, I did notice a long time ago that people who are wedded to the western superstition that "there's a logical explanation for everything" can come up with goofier explanations than any fantasy writer.
I'm slightly telekenetic and you'd have to hear some of the "explanations" to believe them. My favorite so far was one about a bedside table that moved suddenly enough to trash both a lamp and an alarm clock: that it was a "gravitational eddy." :o
But what if there really is a spirit world? If there is (and I believe there is) it would be perfectly rational to say "a ghost did it". What defines a rational or irrational explanation depends on the person's perspective. :)
Interesting! Just before I get into this, i just want to say I am quite interested in this as a debate, but if at any time you feel I am overstepping a line or being too insistent please PM and I will apolgise and drop the subject. i realise that people's personal beliefs are important and sacred, and I am replying to share mine, and not attack those of anyone else. That said...
It would be perfectly rational if there was indeed a spirit world. I happen to believe there is not, but if it can be proven that there is, that would change my belief. I think things rest on 'reasonable proof'.
For example, if I expose a material, say copper, to flame, the copper will increase in temperature. The molecular structure will expand as it is heated. It will always happen if you use the same copper and the same temperature flame. We can infer that flames give off heat, that the copper is absorbing that heat, the heat expands the material... and we have sufficient 'reasonable proof' to say we 'know' these things.
Now, I avoid and reject all philosophical rebuffs on this in terms of "Ah but what if we are all brains in jars" and other such stuff. If we are, we have more to worry about.
So 'reasonable proof' to me is the result of a repeatable experiment which yeilds the same results, and a hypothesis (preferably more than one) which we can then test to see which is most likely.
What defines rational is that this model, this approach, has served us very well in obtaining knowledge. I wouldn't state that there is such a thing as a gravity particle, because we have no evidence that it exists. Sure, people may have assumptions that it does, there may be some evidence, but nothing like reasonable proof.
Similarly if I say "that happened because of the magical powers of the Invisible Pink unicorn!" people won't assume I am rational. Even if it fits *my* perspective and makes sense, where is my proof? My worldview must be supported by evidence. let me move to a more practical example:
A man sincerely believes he is being hunted by the CIA, because he knows about the experiments they carry out on people, and about the aliens that have been visiting the earth. Every phonecall is a potential spy tring to track him down, every news story a coded message. That's his belief.
Society would deem this man irrational (probably paranoid, maybe suffering a mental illness) unless he could show us documented evidence of these claims.
That same man would be deemed rational if he could point out real CIA agents following him around, show us un-faked photographs of aliens, and show consistent cyphers that explain the coded messages and tie these messages to real world events.
In my opinion, rationality it is not quite perspective, but evidence which causes the majority of people to agree on the same perspective.
I picked the first choice, but need to qualify it a bit. I've seen a ghost, and so I believe in that one. Far as other ghosts, I guess I'm keeping an semi-open mind. If someone I know and trust as a reasonable person says they've seen a ghost, I'm more likely to believe it.
Very interesting subject, and I have a story: When I purchased my condo and moved in, I unpacked everything bewfore deciding where to put things. One item in particular was an English Clock with a glass dome, with 4 globes at the botom that moved, operated by battery, but no battery was in the clock. One day I came into the bedroom where the clock was and it was operating, with the correct time, but no battery was in it. The next day it wasn't operating, but it was several days later. This went on for a few weeks, along with other small things being moved. I happened to mention this to my neighbor who had been in the building several months longer than me, jokingly saying I had a "guest". My neighbor then told me the story of a homeless person dying in a fire when the building was left unattented during convertion from apartments to condos. And, he says, the death occurred in what eventually became my condo (the bldg was gutted and those units were enlarged to create the condos). I never had a problem with my "guest", and never rearranged anything that was changed, presumable by him. I guess he was content, and I never thought anymore agbout it.
Then one calm spring day I was reading in the living room when I felt a cool blush of air against my cheek, heard a tinkle (like a high-pitched bell), and saw 2 slats of the verticle blinds at the balcony door shimmer (the door was closed and locked). At that moment I experienced a very strange calming sensation, and remember saying aloud "goodbye". When I next went into the bedroom, the clock had stoped at the exact time my "guest" departed, and it has never worked since..about 5 years, and still shows that time.
I like to think my "guest" is now at peace in a place of his choosing, but if ever he decides to return, I think it will be acceptable as he was not the destructive ghost/spirit we hear about, but a kind one, and he had a sense of humor (based on some of the "happenings" he engaged in).
I have to say that while a gravitational eddy is simply the explaination of someone desperate to fill the blank in "I don't know why that happened", I still believe that there is a rational explaination for things.
The thing is it's ok to say "I don't know" without that automatically meaning "A ghost did it!"
By the way, if you have control over your telekinetic powers to any degree, there is an organisation offering a $1million reward for proof of any supernatural, paranormal or occult gift or event.
http://www.randi.org/research/index.html (http://www.randi.org/research/index.html)
I hope this doesn't come across as an attack on your belief in the paranormal, but I am an adherent to the "Western superstition", and felt compelled to explain my position.
Ghosts...do they exsit? Possibly. I believe in an after life..but do we run around haunting houses and stuff? Hard to say...I haven't died yet! I guess we'll all find out the truth sooner or later...preferbly much later! ;)
Randi is a nutso fanatic who has built his entire life and career on "debunking". This would NOT be any kind of rational or objective venue to approach, even if I had control over the telekenetic episodes, which I don't. And the "reward" is an exact counterpart to the "rewards" offered by organized Holocaust deniers. The reward will never be given out, as no amount of evidence of any kind would be acceptable to them.
Congratulations Dellaluvia On Your 1000th Post!!:) :) :)
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Here I was following my count for a week, then forgot all about it tonight when I was posting.
Yay me!! ;D ;D ;D
Randi is a quite rational man whose scientific method is well established. If you read his books - and his work is backed up by CSCICOP - his approaches are not only rational, they're extremely objective. He forces no one to come to him, the people who approach him claim they have a supernatural talent that they can control and display.
He merely sets up the conditions under which they are tested. Being a magician himself, he is well aware of scammers and fakers and how they dupe others. Sometimes these people are con jobs, other times they truly believe they can do these things and end up not being able to demonstrate that they can.
Science is all about empirical evidence. Being able to measure something. They can't test something unless what is being tested can be repeated.
They can't test your telekinetic episodes if you can't reproduce the ability on demand so it would be a useless exercise. Kelpersmek pretty much laid it out. If you have control over it, your ability should be tested. If you don't have control over it, there's nothing to test That's not saying you don't have these episodes, it's simply saying that there is no scientific basis for them until someone with such abilities who has control over them comes forward to be tested and then there will be.
Randi's whole POV is that they are all either scammers and fakes or victims of their own imaginations. He approaches the whole issue with George W. Bush approach: don't waste your time, I know the answers.
I saw a thorough PBS report of his participation in a test of homeopathy, and it was a farce. It was based on seeing whether or not homeopathy could do something totally outside its claims. That is not research, it's a fundamentalist mentality.
IMO, as a magician he is quite well versed in playing to peoples' fears and to wishful thinking, and that includes the anxiety in the Western psyche over control and categorization. He's a very good manipulator; that doesn't make him reliable.
Yes, physical science is all about that, which is one of its limitations.
What I'm saying is that consulting the people Kelp recommended would be a total waste of time, as I'm sure he was well aware to begin with.
Well, that's because no one has ever stepped up to the plate and proved him wrong. Until that happens, I'd say he's standing on pretty firm ground.
People who make claims outside what is accepted have to prove their claims, if they don't or can't then [shrug].
I didn't see it and don't know what homeopathy claims to do, so I can't comment on this. It's likely he was referring to one specific case. i.e. someone had a very specific claim that homeopathy could do something (generally not accepted by other practitioners) and he proved them incorrect.
Well, other people - scientists and skeptics - laud his work, so apparently he's not so much 'manipulating' as doing a very good job of testing.
Yes, he's a magician, so he puts on a really good show because he DOES know what people want to see. He knows what they expect and so he frames his tests around what a normal person would expect. That's called knowing your audience.
Well, physical science is the only empirical science there is. That's what it's supposed to do. I don't see that as a limitation.
We are all in agreement here.
Unless you can control your episodes and make them happen at will, there's no point. Your ability cannot be scientifically tested nor proven.
That's a bit like saying that no one has ever stepped up to the plate and proved Holocaust deniers wrong. The "reward" that Kelpersmek disingenuously referred to will never be collected because no proof is ever enough for fanatics.
Assuming that everyone is interested in proving them, especially to True Believers. It's usually a waste of time.
I did see it, so I can comment on this. There was no specific case. What his "panel of researchers" did was to take some of the ingredients homeopathy uses, dilute them to the strength normally used (we're talking extremely diluted solutions here), put them in test tubes and then waited to see if there were any changes in the distilled water used. Of course there wasn't, and Randi and his followers crowed that they had "proven homeopathy wrong."
By that standard, Intelligent Design should be taught in every university on the planet. Not impressed.
ht; it's the only empirical science there is. It's limited in terms of anything outside those boundaries.
Obviously, "we" are not as you're addressing another member of this forum who isn't in agreement.
Actually, I never said I was interested. There's no reason I should be.
ok I am glad you DID revive it....cause I want to ask a question.
WHY do ghosts have clothes on??
I mean if they are just the soul of the people then why does the clothes get turned into spirit form??
does anyone know?
Has anyone seen a nekkid ghost?
LOL :laugh: That's a great question Jess. Since I've never actually seen a ghost, I guess I can't really answer that. As far as movies, etc. go, the clothing on ghosts is probably just the product of the over-active imaginations of artistic directors on set.
The most I've ever experienced have been things like bumps in the night and now the faucet/toilet/DVD-player situation that I just described. I've also heard some quite convincing stories by people I trust. So, I voted that, "yes, I do believe in ghosts, but have never seen one" (I voted that long ago) and I'm sticking to it.
LOL, in this situation with the faucet that turns itself on, I'm hoping that now that I'm the pet-parent to a black cat that she can somehow protect me.
:)
ok I am glad you DID revive it....cause I want to ask a question.
WHY do ghosts have clothes on??
I mean if they are just the soul of the people then why does the clothes get turned into spirit form??
does anyone know?
Has anyone seen a nekkid ghost?
I blame ALL spooky noises on my cats....
the lady I work with said she was in bed with her husband and the TV turned itself on...nothing but snow...they tried the remote and that didnt' turn it off...so he got up and hit the button...it STILL didn't go off..
then they unplugged it...
and it STILL STAYED ON!!!
said it ran for about five minutes and then quit.
and they STAYED there!
I myself would have insisted we move that night.....wouldn't even get dressed...
Hmm. Just imagine Patrick Swayze with no clothes on. ... ::)
. . . Makes me think I ought to be more careful how I dress! I could wind up wearing these old sweat pants for eternity, and everyone would see me in them!
I am staying in a hotel in Dunedin on the weekend which according to my colleagues has a resident ghost in room 319 (I think). I am going to request to stay in the room. Will let you know next week if things went bump in the night ;)
I am staying in a hotel in Dunedin on the weekend which according to my colleagues has a resident ghost in room 319 (I think). I am going to request to stay in the room. Will let you know next week if things went bump in the night ;)