Chuck, those are very solid clues. He got very close to Carol, and although I didn't think they would be a very plausible couple, it seemed possible, but it never happened. Same with Beth in that episode on the farm, as far as we know. And although it's always jut seemed like his abusive dad and brother were assholes, the very fact that that part of his background has been repeated a couple of times suggests there may be more to the story.
On Vulture, somebody commented something about how straight women across America would all be upset. My response was, why, did we all want to hook up with him? Daryl is cute and has always been my favorite character but, gay or not, I would have zero chance with a fictional character.
I'd like to think that some gay people survived the zombie apocalypse! LOL
Which begs the question of whether there are any gay zombies.
Which begs the question of whether there are any gay zombies.
Now he's going off to college. Of course my first thought was, what about The Walking Dead? (Ha ha -- not quite my first thought but I have actually thought it.) Will I continue to watch a show I don't quite actually love, but watch primarily because of my son, who's no longer in the picture? Might it possibly even make me sad to watch it with him not around? Or will I continue to watch it alone, because at this point I'm invested enough in the characters to stick with it?
The answer to the last is yes, I think, especially if we're discussing it here. It will give me a sense of purpose to go on watching The Walking Dead knowing I can come here and comment (warning, sometimes snarkily!) about the most recent episode.
But I'll say it now, as I've said a number of times before: If Daryl goes, I'm probably out, myself. However, I think so many fans think this way that the writers would be crazy to let anything happen to Daryl.
See you on Oct. 12! :D
Oh God...sounds just as bad as those 'zom rom coms' that have been released.
Oh God...sounds just as bad as those 'zom rom coms' that have been released.
Well, I loved Warm Bodies. Even as a zombie, Nicholas Hoult looked hot.
Well, I loved Warm Bodies. Even as a zombie, Nicholas Hoult looked hot.
Agreed!
Those zombies look way more ... functional than the ones on The Walking Dead. The zombies on TWD pretty much just stagger around silently, either clumsily pawing at the living or getting their heads smashed like pumpkins by our protagonists. They don't have facial expressions. They're so slow and out of it that it's not really that hard to escape them unless they catch you by surprise and corner you en masse.
Also, they don't look just kind of unhealthy or bloody, they are in far later stages of postmortem decay.
I suppose that's part of why the show can be so relentlessly violent. When a human kills a zombie it's gross -- it's gross to see a head smashed to gory pieces with a hard whack from, say, a garden rake. But the zombies are so dehumanized that it's not particularly disturbing; in fact it barely seems like violence.
The real violence is when the zombies kill a human or a human kills a human.
I'm not disagreeing with you regarding Nicholas Hoult's looks, and I don't deny the talent of anyone involved in those films.
I just don't enjoy those types of films. The whole point of a zombie is that when the brain is 're-activated', it only comes back enough to give it the instincts to walk/move and eat. Memory, emotions, empathy, and all the human aspects are gone. I don't enjoy seeing monsters suddenly becoming romantic objects.
That's one of the issues I have with the Twilight series (and why I've not seen it). I get that vampires have always had a sexuality to them, and also homoeroticism, however, they were still feared.....not like these 'sparkle' vampires.
I don't enjoy seeing monsters suddenly becoming romantic objects.
The Twilight Sparkling "vampires" are an embarrassment to the whole Vampire legacy. I did like the vampires in Thirty Days of Night, what a visceral experience.
I do have a problem with fast running zombies, which is why I skipped the film version of World War Z. Especially since in the book version the zombies were lumbering in the classic style.
Have you seen the trailer for Zombeavers?
Yeah. It has a kinda Stockholm syndrome feel about it.
The Walking Dead’s Norman Reedus says his character is ‘prison gay’
25 September 2014 | By Andrew Potts
The Walking Dead actor Norman Reedus has gone on the record after months of speculation by fans that his character Daryl may be gay – and his answer is 'yes,' though he thinks Daryl has probably never acted on those feelings.
Reedus told GQ magazine that he thinks Daryl is in denial about his sexuality and probably a virgin and that's how he has played the character since season two of the show.
Reedus said the idea to take the character in that direction had come from Walking Dead show creator and original showrunner Frank Darabont.
http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/walking-dead%E2%80%99s-norman-reedus-says-his-character-%E2%80%98prison-gay%E2%80%99250914
Great, now I have to watch seasons two to four again just to see if Daryl checks out guys.
The Walking Dead’s Norman Reedus says his character is ‘prison gay’
25 September 2014 | By Andrew Potts
The Walking Dead actor Norman Reedus has gone on the record after months of speculation by fans that his character Daryl may be gay – and his answer is 'yes,' though he thinks Daryl has probably never acted on those feelings.
Reedus told GQ magazine that he thinks Daryl is in denial about his sexuality and probably a virgin and that's how he has played the character since season two of the show.
Reedus said the idea to take the character in that direction had come from Walking Dead show creator and original showrunner Frank Darabont.
http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/walking-dead%E2%80%99s-norman-reedus-says-his-character-%E2%80%98prison-gay%E2%80%99250914
Interesting article, but Mr. Darabont has an odd take on what "prison gay" means.
Interesting article, but Mr. Darabont has an odd take on what "prison gay" means.
True, to me "Prison Gay" means you fuck guys only if women aren't available.
Agreed on all counts, Chuck. Aside from a conveniently nick-of-time save -- the gunfire, etc., happening just as they were turning to Glen -- I thought it was a good, dramatic start.
And totally agree about Carol. I used to be pretty "meh" about her, but her character arc is fascinating.
Now what, I wonder?
Do you ever watch Talking Dead? I watched a few minutes last night. Conan O'Brien was on, so of course it was funny. And I think the host, Chris Hardwicke, does a pretty good job -- he's like a funny Ryan Seacrest with an actual personality.
Good to have most of the group together again, but I am wondering about Beth and who has her.
Wait, I must have missed that part. Who discussed Beth, and how do they know she's alive? Wasn't Daryl the last one to see her, and he doesn't know.
He was the last one to see her so he really doesn't know if she is still alive or not. I'm convinced she is still alive though, otherwise it just wouldn't make sense storywise.
Exactly. The only way they can make someone being dead interesting is if it's something like what happened with Carol's daughter a couple of seasons ago. But now they've done that.
If they wanted to surprise us, they'd have Beth appear as the now-evil ruler of Terminus.
Instead, she'll probably eventually show up but be as ho-hum and forgettable as ever.
Wait, I must have missed that part. Who discussed Beth, and how do they know she's alive? Wasn't Daryl the last one to see her, and he doesn't know.
He was the last one to see her so he really doesn't know if she is still alive or not. I'm convinced she is still alive though, otherwise it just wouldn't make sense storywise.
Instead, she'll probably eventually show up but be as ho-hum and forgettable as ever.
LOL! I gather you are not a fan of Beth. I wasn't either but she kind of redeemed herself in the last couple of episodes.
I'm wondering if perhaps she's with the next "Governor". I won't go into details, but there's a big villain in the comic series that hasn't arrived yet in the tv series.
I'm wondering if perhaps she's with the next "Governor". I won't go into details, but there's a big villain in the comic series that hasn't arrived yet in the tv series.
'The Walking Dead' Season 5 Characters Ranked From Most to Least Expendable
http://news.moviefone.com/2014/10/01/the-walking-dead-expendable-characters/
I agree with the list, more or less, though I wish they'd quit bringing in the comic book version for comparison. Here are my other observations:
-- If they kill Daryl, I will stop watching the show. That's all there is to it. I think there are enough people who feel like me that they just won't. It would be like if "Happy Days" killed off the Fonz.
-- They also had better not kill Michonne, nor Carol or nor frankly even Maggie.
-- Nor should they kill Baby Judith.
-- Killing Rick would probably be a bad idea since, annoying as he can be, he's still sort of the central character and ostensible moral center of the show.
-- Sidenote: a romantic pairing of Rick and Michonne would be awesome.
-- As for the others, they can take whoever they want. Carl first, please
I disagree about baby Judith. They should kill her off, and soon. She is just dangerous dead weight.
Carl comes with a demographic so I don't think they'll kill him off anytime soon.
I'm on the fence about Judith. I think that Judith may represent the last of Rick's humanity, and if anything happens to her, he'll snap.
I know you mentioned about not liking the comparison of the comic to the series, but it's one thing that makes me wonder about Carol. In the comic she's already dead, suicide by zombie. Of course, comic Carol never evolved the way TV Carol has.
You are correct regarding the killing of children on TV, but I think TWD gets away with it because something had to have happened to all the kids on the show, they wouldn't have just disappeared. We've seen a few shots (when they were on the highway) of blood-splattered baby seats in cars.
And, of course, we had Carol killing Lizzie last season. I remember talking to a lot of people, and they were all shocked that it happened.
"Look at the flowers, Lizzie, just look at the flowers."
The other thing I remember writing was that I think they're keeping Carol alive, as opposed to the comic, because they need more badass women on the show. Michonne obviously qualifies. But Maggie, who originally had potential, is too all about Glenn these days. And of course Laurie (was that her name? the one who got involved with the Governor?) who was tough but lacked good judgement, is no longer around.
OH, and I don't for a minute believe that Eugene character knows how to stop this zombie outbreak
The character who fell for the Governor was Andrea.
Gross.
Or, as Chris Hardwick put it in the TD teaser, "Well, that was vile."
I don't really trust him, either. But does he know anything at all? Why does the other guy trust him so much? Would he just get to Washington and say, "Sorry, guys, I was faking it"?
That's right, thanks. I also heard Michonne mention her tonight.
OH, and I don't for a minute believe that Eugene character knows how to stop this zombie outbreak.
Maybe it's the mullet but Eugene is just not a believable character. It's actually embarrassing.
:laugh:
Everyone mentions the mullet. I don't like that character, and is it just me, or does everything he say sound like nonsense?
He don't say much, and he doesn't get his point across. ;D
Maybe they're setting us up to doubt him so we'll be surprised if he actually does turn out to know something. You can never tell with those wily WD writers ...
I also think the show needs Eugene as a character to give the group some sense of purpose. Otherwise, their wanderings could start to seem kind of pointless.
They're sort of like Dorothy and her friends -- off to see the Wizard, or in this case, off to see Washington DC.
Governors and cannibals and zombies, oh my!
I reckon Bob was bitten by the underwater zombie and thats why he was crying.. (plus one of the couple needs to die they were too lovey dovey in the last episode) and now he'll have poisoned them all..
Daryl is back, not sure what's going on with Carol, that she was hidden at the very end. I'm assuming that next week we find out about Beth.
Now, the twist of Carol being wheeled in......was she "save-napped" like they did to Beth (a term they coined on The Talking Dead), or did she let herself get "save-napped" in an effort to find Beth. This means (to me) that Daryl is not far off.
Could this be from the hospital? Hmmmm........I wonder if Carol will be sacrificing herself to save Beth.
I've heard Carol is at least in TWD until at least episode 15 of this season (as she is noted in casting list for that episode or something), so unless they leave any return to the hospital I think not.
Also, I think she's the replacement for the comic Andrea. In the comic, Andrea is *the* top dog woman - the female equivalent of Rick, and was never killed by the Governor and Carol has been dead for some time so the characterisation tables have turned it seems..
I've heard Carol is at least in TWD until at least episode 15 of this season (as she is noted in casting list for that episode or something), so unless they leave any return to the hospital I think not.
Also, I think she's the replacement for the comic Andrea. In the comic, Andrea is *the* top dog woman - the female equivalent of Rick, and was never killed by the Governor and Carol has been dead for some time so the characterisation tables have turned it seems..
I hope you're right! I would love to have Carol around, she seems to be the most interesting character on the show for me. Tie for second between Daryl and Michonne.
Same with Michonne -- likeable, but kind of flat in terms of character (except in flashback, when we saw a completely different version of Michonne pre-apocalypse).
Ok, so Eugene was a liar, leading them all on a wild goose chase. I knew that something was up, but I didn't expect that.
Abraham looks like he's close to snapping. The fact that he was willing to try to put them through that massive horde was not good.
Worst episode ever!
I watched a few minutes of Talking Dead afterwards.....Michael Cudlitz was on, soooo cute, and with the red hair....yum!
I wasn't surprised that he was lying, but I was surprised that they openly discussed the mullet!
But the other group members' claims that they would have befriended and protected him as a friend, even without the lie, were disingenuous. They've given all kinds of people the brushoff.
Well just think, he had pretty much snapped already until just then Eugene came along and gave him a sense of purpose. Now that's gone.
It wasn't until I watched Talking Dead that I understood that Abraham's family members had been raped by his friends and neighbors. That would be pretty demoralizing!
I liked that his girlfriend finally showed at least something of a personality. Tara's turning into a more appealing character, too.
Compared to those endless episodes of hanging around Hershell's farm chatting aimlessly? :P
By the way, Gil, the whole time you've been contributing to this thread I've been impressed that you're a fan of TWD, considering your pretty highbrow taste in films. :)
He was very serious and intense, though. Whereas Eugene turned out to be lighthearted and funny! Like Andrew Lincoln was last season. It's often surprising to see how different the actors on TD are from their characters on TWD.
I love TWD. It's my favourite show after American Horror Story.
As for my taste in film, is liking foreign films considered highbrow?
Ok, being a Carol fan, I really liked the Carol-based episode last night.
I do wonder now if the person in the shadows in the episode a few weeks back is now the 'Everybody Hates Chris' guy as Daryl is back to get reinforcements?
I'm wondering about the death we're supposed to see this season.
Most people are leaning towards Beth, some toward Carol.
I'm wondering if perhaps they'll do something different......something along the lines like only one can survive, and the group (or maybe just one person, like Daryl, who is close to both) has to make a decision of which one to save.
‘I sat on an apple box with my head between my legs and just balled for an hour,’ he says.
Well, the mid-season finale is over, and now we know that Beth was the one to die.
I gotta say, this episode left me cold. I mean, they went through these episodes making Beth into a mini-badass, and then what does she do? She jabs scissors into someone who is wearing bullet-proof vests and battle clothes.
I also don't get the whole thing with Carol this episode. We see her unconscious in the bed....then she's in a wheelchair near the end, and then she's walking away from the hospital under her own power.
???
Well, I am happy that Carol lives to see another day. Now they just need to get rid of that preacher. Really? brings a whole herd of walkers to the church? damn.
That seems about right. She'd been built into just a big enough character to matter -- if it had been, say, Tyrese's sister or Abraham's girlfriend it wouldn't have meant much (see? I can't even remember their names). She got to have her moments of heroism. But she's not such a big or popular character that her presence is severely missed.
As one recap said, "everyone knows that when you stab someone with mini scissors you go for the jugular."
Right?? She seemed to have made an amazing physical recovery but now appears mentally catatonic -- she never spoke and barely registered a facial expression.
And poor Maggie -- to go from seemingly not giving a thought to her sister (in previous episodes, she hasn't mentioned Beth, has shown no signs of concern or grief) to overjoyed that she's been found alive to devastated that she's dead.
I know. He's gong to be a big liability. It's almost like he's trying to cause trouble. Time, perhaps, for Rick to activate the cattle vs. butcher approach he seemed to have learned from Gareth.
The violence against humans usually doesn't bother me either. But then, I have a fairly strong tolerance for violence unless it's super gory or is the whole point of a plot (like, I would never see a movie like "Saw" or even supposedly higher quality ones like "Se7en").
I missed the whole thing, dammit. I was so bored watching the oscars that I turned off the TV.
What I found very interesting was Carol lying during her 'interview'...about being a housewife and missing her husband.....hiding what a badass she's become.
Not sure about the schedule wher you live, but here they rerun the show on Fridays.
Yet surely they wouldn't just repeat the old "community looks like a benign and idyllic haven but turns out to be sinister and dangerous" that they've already done at least twice (Woodbury and Terminus).
Maybe this time Rick will turn out to be the aggressor -- he's been hinting at that. Yet Rick is nominally the show's hero, so they can't have him turn out-and-out bad.
Mysterious!
Yes, that was a smart move! Though if the town turns out to be totally benign and idyllic and they all live happily ever after, she'll be stuck in that fake persona forever.
When she went out to the Junior League all gussied up in suburban-mom attire, I loved Daryl's "You look ridiculous!"
Every once and a while I see an ad for Walking Dead that has a group of zombies breaking into a house. I don't recall seeing that happen yet on the show, so I'm wondering if the season will end with an horde attacking the Alexandria Safe Zone.
I'm
Series finale is tomorrow night. Apparently it's a 90 minute episode, so if you are recording it, make your you check your start and end times, so you get it all.
There are a ton of sites out there claiming to have spoilers, so if you don't want to know what's going to happen tomorrow, avoid anything that is related to TWD.
Glenn held his own this week, but I'm glad he didn't kill the Alexandrite.
Funniest moment, when Carol called Rick "Sunshine". :laugh:
The bar for humor is not super high in TWD, but that was amusing. I love Carol. As the characters go, she is a close second to the obvious, Daryl.
On The Talking Dead they had Norman Reedus (Daryl) and Melissa McBride (Carol) and the host mentioned that many people think Carol should be leading the group, and the audience burst into applause.
As for Daryl, apparently there was a website somewhere that listed Daryl as a character who was going to die next season, as an April Fool's joke, and people went nuts.
(Maybe their applause is a good sign for Hillary in 2016!)
Carol continues to be my favorite character, but I'm very glad that Rick didn't listen to her when she told him "Rick, now!" meaning to shoot the drunk. Until he had killed someone, I don't think the ASZers would've understood any actions that Rick took.
The trailer is up for The Walking Dead, season 6. ;D
Set to come back to the small screen in October.
will you be watching the companion series, "Fear The Walking Dead"?
Comment here:
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,53047.0.html
On Rick - it definitely took a while for me to get used to his accent. Andrew Lincoln is really well known for stuff over here in the UK.
Been lead characters is a few very popular series' - This Life which was iconic in the 90's and also Teachers from the 00's. He was also in a series called Strike BAck - not so iconic/poular/mainstream but I really liked it. And of course, he was in Love Actually.
actually, at different times, it seems as if three people are his compass, Daryl, Morgan and Glen.
I thought it was a great episode, but I want to know who is honking the horn at the end. Is it Fr. Gabriel for some reason? That young girl who has caught Carl's attention? I'm suspecting she has connections to The Wolves. Or, the son of the drunk man that Rick killed?
I love undercover Carol, and the fact that she seemed to be a bit taken aback that Morgan is on to her.
Anc Carol is so undercover these days I barely recognized her when she was first onscreen!
Oh, the Vulture recapper also suspects that Maggie is pregnant because Glen made a special point of having her stay behind.
And now Glenn is dead *sob*
Yeah, we now get talking dead too in the UK and I watched it but I don't see how he can get out of it.. unless it was Nicholas freaking out (you see Glen shouting at him to get him back 'with him') and it was all a 'dream' and they are still standing on that garbage bin.....
One thing I thought about last night. They all know that if they smear themselves with zombie guts the walkers will ignore them. So whey don't they do that, especially when they're going out on dangerous missions and there are dead walkers handy? Like why didn't Glenn and whatsisname do that last week before they ventured into the town?
Very good point! That method was only used once, I think, by Carol. The writers have some splaining to do. What also works is walking around with a jaw-less, armless zombie on a leash.
actually, it was 'tested' in the very first season. Rick and Glenn covered themselves in guts and almost made it to a truck before a sudden rainstorm hit, and washed the rotting scent off them. Then they had to run.
You have a good memory! Thanks!
someone needs to tell her to go for the head.
One thing I thought about last night. They all know that if they smear themselves with zombie guts the walkers will ignore them. So whey don't they do that, especially when they're going out on dangerous missions and there are dead walkers handy? Like why didn't Glenn and whatsisname do that last week before they ventured into the town?
I didn't realize the season had started up again until after the show. So I just watched Ep1 last night. Quite a lot of action! I'm trying to avoid reading anything else here until I can get caught up, but I'll be back with you soon.
I loved this weeks episode - a bit of the fun and laughs with Daryl/Rick/Jesus and Jesus looks like a real interesting character. And then RICHONNE!!!!
Yeah, it was quite the episode, and I'm still not sure who got it.
I don't think the group is going to get 'resuced'....I think Neagan will let them go. He specificially stated he was only going to kill one of them.
I keep thinking on how the cast keeps calling it a "dark" episode, and one of the darkest things that could be done is kill a pregnant woman.
Let's review.
At the season finale, we had 11 survivors from our team kneeling in front of Neagan. Rick, Michonne, Glenn, Daryl, Rosita, Carl, Maggie, Aaron, Eugene, Abraham, and Sasha.
Morgan and Carol are safe, because they're 'off-site' with the new group from the comic series, "The Kingdom".
Rick & Carl are safe, that is a given, leaving us 9 possible victims. Rosita and Aaron haven't had enough time to become a fan favorite, so I don't think it's one them, bringing us down to 7.
Michonne, Glenn, Daryl, Maggie, Eugene, Abraham, and Sasha
They just killed off Rick's last love interest, so I think Michonne is safe. For some reason, I don't think Sasha is on the chopping block yet. Which leaves 5.
Glenn, Daryl, Maggie, Eugene, Abraham. Eugene and Abraham have both become fan faves, however, Eugene was beaten up by the Saviors already, so I don't think that Neagan would want "sloppy seconds". In the comics, Abraham dies by an arrow through the eye, which the good doctor took in his place a few episodes ago, so it could be Abraham.
Glenn & Maggie have been here since the beginning. Losing either would be a blow to fans, and with Maggie being pregnant, it would be a cruel, harsh death. However, it is Glenn that faces this death in the comics.
This leaves Daryl. A Daryl death would gut the show, and since he's not in the comic book, he could face this death. The one thing that may save Daryl now is that the network has so much merchandise with Daryl Dixon on it, to kill him off makes no sense.
I think it's one of the following three: Abraham, Glenn or Maggie.
I thought you read the comics, so who gets hit by Lucille in the comics? I heard it was Glenn. In any event it was a rather disappointing episode. It could easily have been edited down to one hour. Not impressed.
LOL!
I forgot this thread was here!!
I'm not sure if we'll see Gil here or not. On DCF he stated that the season opener was too rough for him, and it may have put him off the rest of the show.
I loved the fact that King Ezikel saw through Carol's "suzy homemaker" guise, and called her on it.
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and I couldn't have Daryl alone
I watched the season the full way through.
Rosita found a gun and kept it hidden on herself. Carl managed to sneak onto a truck belonging to the Saviors, and when they opened it, he mowed them down about three of them before they managed to subdue him. Negan took this upon himself to send more of his people to Alexandria and take more stuff.
Spencer then talks with Negan, in an effort to get Negan to kill Rick, and put him in charge. In response, Negan kills Spencer. While going off, Rosita goes to shoot Negan, and instead hits his bat, Lucille, which throws Negan into a rage. He wants to know how she got the bullet, she lies twice, and in return he has a Savior kill Gloria, the woman who watched the pantry.
Morgan and Carol are still in the Kingdom, Morgan with the general population, and Carol on the outskirts in her house.
Someone has slid Daryl the keys to his cell. he escapes and makes his way back to Alexandria.
Rick & Aaron return from hunting and find Negan in mid rant, both Gloria and Spencer dead. Negan informs him of what both Carl and Rosita did, and says more blood will be spilled if they don't turn over who made the bullet to him. Eugene confesses and is kidnapped by Negan.
Maggie stands guard at the Hilltop gate. She sees something in the distance and smiles. Rick, Michonne, Carl, Rosita, and Tara enter the Hilltop and reunite with Maggie, Sasha, and Enid. Rick admits that Maggie was right all along — they have to get ready to fight. Daryl and Jesus come out to greet them.
Scenes for next season seem to show Alexandria, The Hilltop & The Kingdom all uniting against Negan and the Saviors.