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Our BetterMost Community => Chez Tremblay => Topic started by: RouxB on April 09, 2006, 10:07:52 pm
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We're such a chatty bunch I might have missed this topic so if I'm re-treading oh well. Anywhy at TOB there was an observation that when Ennis discovers the shirts in Jack's closet he whispers "I love you" into them. I was preettty skeptical but after nearly blowing out the speakers and pressing my face to the screen, low and beyold, it's true. Anyone else notice this? Is right after he takes the deep inhale-as he exhales to whispers "I love you".
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I still can't hear it....
However I do think I heard Jack say "lie back, come on" in the second tent scene... someone mentioned that the subtitles had them saying this and I of course had to investigate! I'm not sure if it's just my mind playing tricks on me but I could swear I heard it! ::)
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It took a couple of rewinds before I got it-very subtle on the exhalation.
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I saw that thread too Ruby! I annot wait for everyone to bed so I can put my DVD in and crank up the sound and set right on top of the screen and see if I can make that "I love you" out....I cannot believe one us hasn't noticed this before now if it's really there! But I'm going to enjoy every minute of getting to the bottom of this mystery. LOL
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I saw that thread too Ruby! I annot wait for everyone to bed so I can put my DVD in and crank up the sound and set right on top of the screen and see if I can make that "I love you" out....I cannot believe one us hasn't noticed this before now if it's really there! But I'm going to enjoy every minute of getting to the bottom of this mystery. LOL
I'll be interested to hear your report, Victoria. Sh-e-e-e-it, I can't even hear him inhale, let alone whisper anything!
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O.K. Everyone, here is the results of my research...first let me say it was a real hardship ;) watching that scene over and over again ::) BUT I did it just for ya'all in the interest of information.
I listened with the StereoTV at full blast, then again with headphones, then just the right speaker, then just the left :o all the while looking at poor Heath looking so damn hot, uhmm I mean forelorn... :'(..and guess what... HE does NOT say I love you, he doesn't SAY anything.
There is a sharp intake of breath when he first discovers the shirts and sees the blood and realizes what it is, then a sigh when he see's how Jack has carefully preserved his shirt inside his own. Then another catch of breath and a sigh when you see the realization that Jack was in love with him dawn on his beautiful face and he clutches the shirts to his chest, inhales Jack's scent from them and sighs again. :'( By the time he comes back down the stairs he eyes are red rimmed from weeping. All the more poignant when you think of Ennis's discovering all this about Jack and how he felt about him, after listening to that old crumdgeon Mr Twist talk about some other guy and the obivious pain on Ennis's handsome face while he listened. And the expressions on Mrs Twist's careworn face...she knows, she knows it all from the minute Ennis arrives until he leaves.
Beautiful, beautiful scene but anyone who hears him whisper "I love you" or "I loved you" is wishful thinking. Part of the beauty and the tragedy of this story is Ennis's inability to utter those words. I personally am relieved to discover they are NOT there.
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I rewatched that scene several times and also did not see or hear "I love you" there.
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Vicky, your beautiful description of that scene nearly has me weeping--
it also makes me realize that, if Heath/Ennis did not articulate the words (and you make a powerful case), he sure was thinking them....
Great acting from Heath--great writing from you.
Now I better get to work or I'll get fired. (Could I get a grant from some foundation, d'ya think, to be a full time broke-aholic?)
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Thank you, Victoria. I agree with John: Beautiful little piece of writing there. I always knew that was the moment when Ennis finally realized that what he and Jack shared was LOVE. It's nice to have your reenforcement.
I had suspected that the "I love you" line wasn't really there, but I didn't like to doubt RouxB.
John, we need to work something up to see whether we can get Brokaholism covered by the Americans with Disabilities Act. ...
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No hope of that, Jeff, under the current regime--
Solution: let's start a foundation! We need to start calling wealthy Brokies and get an endowment!
Mebbe we should ask Dr. Leslie to write our proposal...
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No hope of that, Jeff, under the current regime--
Solution: let's start a foundation! We need to start calling wealthy Brokies and get an endowment!
Mebbe we should ask Dr. Leslie to write our proposal...
My thought exactly, John! Leslie ...?
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Mebbe we should ask Dr. Leslie to write our proposal...
Sure, but I need to double my customary hourly rate to make up for all the lost billiable hours I have had hanging out with you guys...LOL
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Leslie,
We just build that into the grant request. Then you become head of research.
(I think I wanna be 'Liason to Rodeo Bullriders,' myself. Sort of a glorified talent scout lookin' for the next Jack Twist.)
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John
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Can you believe it there are still two fans over there on TOB insisting that he says it, they are NOT making it up...but you've got to REALLY listen! LOL :laugh:
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You say tomato
they say "s'alright, s'alright, s'alright" :D
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I know hunh, damn that surround sound stereo home theater system, just takes all the speculation right out it! :D
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Leslie,
We just build that into the grant request. Then you become head of research.
(I think I wanna be 'Liason to Rodeo Bullriders,' myself. Sort of a glorified talent scout lookin' for the next Jack Twist.)
;)
John
Lookin' for the next Jack Twist? I think that talent scoutin' thing needs to be a team effort, John--just to confirm your judgment to satisfy the funding sources, of course.
Otherwise I'll hafta arm wrestle you for that job. ...
;)