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Title: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: Phillip Dampier on May 25, 2007, 05:32:59 pm
Rosie has announced she is through with The View, primarily because of this:

Title: Re: The Donald Defends Rosie in Latest Spat, Sliverstone Snubs Liz
Post by: Phillip Dampier on May 25, 2007, 05:48:49 pm
I felt the earth move when Trump took Rosie's side in the spat...

Title: Re: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: Toast on May 25, 2007, 06:02:48 pm
Am I right that the argument came from whether Bush should have soldiers in Iraq?  And if the Iraqi people are your [USA's] enemies?

It's so sad that almost any debate about such a president is so volatile.   Surely to god everyone doesn't have shares in Halliburton.

America is unraveling before our eyes.
First an ex-president then an ex-vice-president speak out.
The emperor has no ... marbles.

ps. I am from Canada
and another Canadian Soldier died today trying to help Afghanistan get back on it's feet.  (He died on the road - at 25.)
The Iraqi war has embittered and emboldened the opposition in all that area.
Title: Re: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: Meryl on May 25, 2007, 06:22:34 pm
I'm very sorry to hear it.  But Rosie is very emotional, and I think it would be torture for her to go back after that incident.  It's one thing to feud with Trump, but it's harder when your opponent is 3 feet away.

http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=263444&GT1=7703 (http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=263444&GT1=7703)
Title: Re: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: ednbarby on May 27, 2007, 08:07:51 pm
I agree with you all.  Yes, Toast - it is definitely unraveling.  I just don't get it.  Well, I do, actually, but I try not to.  ;)

Seriously, I think it's all about fear.  This President is apparently a master (or should I say Karl Rove is the master, since GWB is incapable of original thought) at fostering it in his people.  I guess I didn't get that particular gene, but it seems many of us did.

And might I add, Elisabeth Hasselbeck is a shrill, ignorant, insensitive c-word.  No - that's being too kind.  You have to have some intelligence to merit the c-word or even the b-word.  So let's just say she's a twit.

Someone on another board I frequent said, "I think Elisabeth is a lovely person.  She's done some stints at Fox News (big shocker, there) - I hope she considers going there permanently."

I said "So do I."   :P
Title: Re: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: ednbarby on May 27, 2007, 08:12:02 pm
Ooh, Phillip - just watched your second clip.  WTG, Alicia Silverstone!  I now have something else to love about her besides her performance in "Clueless" (which was classic).

And The Donald - "the dumbest person in television."  LMFAO!  I never thought I'd say this, but THANK you, Donald.
Title: Re: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: Phillip Dampier on May 27, 2007, 08:16:14 pm
I expect Rosie will end up with her own show very soon, perhaps even one to bookend Bill Maher on HBO.  I think Rosie would have a big audience for her outspoken views about current events.

I am not a regular viewer of The View, but anything that gets people talking about current events in this country beyond Paris Hilton, et al., is a major plus for me.  And from what I've heard from Elizabeth, she's good at coughing up the talking points and trying to defend what is rapidly turning into the worst administration in the history of this country.  I've called them TeamFailure since Katrina, and things have certainly not improved since then.
Title: Re: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: ednbarby on May 28, 2007, 08:36:19 am
TeamFailure - I LOVE it!  Well, love the name, hate the sinners.

Title: Re: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: Meryl on May 28, 2007, 01:51:38 pm
And might I add, Elisabeth Hasselbeck is a shrill, ignorant, insensitive c-word.  No - that's being too kind.  You have to have some intelligence to merit the c-word or even the b-word.  So let's just say she's a twit.

Someone on another board I frequent said, "I think Elisabeth is a lovely person.  She's done some stints at Fox News (big shocker, there) - I hope she considers going there permanently."

I said "So do I."   :P

I wish she'd go to Fox, too.  Unfortunately, I don't think she's a twit, just a product of a conservative Republican background that makes her see what she wants to see and rationalize TeamFailure's stupidity accordingly.  What concerns me is that her sparring with Rosie forced her to become better prepared and more aggressive, and with Rosie gone, she could dominate a weaker person.  It certainly doesn't hurt that she's a pretty blonde and wears her Christianity on a chain around her neck.  IMO she's far more dangerous than the likes of Ann Coulter or other cynical blondes the conservatives have trotted out from time to time.  She calms people's fears and lulls them into thinking that things are ultimately okay because, hey, Bush is at least in the right party and a professed born-again Christian and is "keeping us safe."  Gah.  :P
Title: Re: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: Kelda on May 28, 2007, 04:03:13 pm
Interesting - knowing zero about that blonde woman I have to say that while I don't agree with her George bush is great spieel, she didn't seem to say much in that instance to get rosie riled up... I assume this has been brewing?
Title: Re: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: delalluvia on May 30, 2007, 12:32:06 am
Didn't the argument start because Rosie wanted Elizabeth to back her up on her statement about body counts and who was the terrorist?

Rosie had every right to speak her mind and though Elizabeth doesn't have the brains the gods gave a turnip, she was within her rights not to agree/back her up, if she didn't agree.
Title: Re: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: CellarDweller on June 01, 2007, 10:58:29 am
And might I add, Elisabeth Hasselbeck is a shrill, ignorant, insensitive c-word.  No - that's being too kind.  You have to have some intelligence to merit the c-word or even the b-word.  So let's just say she's a twit.


Never watched "The View" so I know nothing of Elisabeth Hasselbeck.  IMO, some of the descriptions that were used can be applied to Rosie as well.
Title: Re: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: serious crayons on June 01, 2007, 02:06:52 pm
I watch The View but missed this one, just as I somehow manage to miss ALL of the big controversial ones (the Trump dissing, the bad Chinese imitation, the Clay Aiken/Kelly Ripa contretemps, the drunk Danny DeVito episode). I have seen the YouTube clips.

It's funny, when she's not talking about politics I kind of like Elizabeth. She's cute, she has cute clothes (those both go a long way with me  :laugh:), she's conservative but at least apparently not homophobic. I like hearing from "regular people" conservatives now and then, so I can find out their side of the story and try to figure out how they justify it to themselves. She was the only real conservative of the group (Joy and Rosie are both liberals, Barbara is carefully neutral), and thus not much of a threat. She's not the brightest bulb, but I don't think she's a complete idiot and I wouldn't call her the C word or even the B word. Oddly enough, aside from politics, I got the feeling that Rosie and Elizabeth got along OK.

Elisabeth is one of those people who have never had any struggles. She was born pretty and blonde, white, to a middle income family. I can see her buying into the conservative line that 'they are the party that believes in people' that anyone can be rich and successful if they just try real hard. And anyone that doesnt must be lazy or stupid.

Well put, Jess! I think that kind of thinking explains the political views of most, if not all, reagular-people conservatives.

I will reeeeaaaaally miss Rosie, though. She was the life of the show. I'll probably go back to exercising during the Today Show instead of The View.
Title: Re: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: ednbarby on June 01, 2007, 03:20:03 pm
I wouldn't call her a c-word or b-word (as I said), either.  I would call her a twit.  I agree with you on one thing - she wears cute clothes.  Don't like anything else about her, though.  Didn't like her on Survivor, either - in fact, I stopped watching it during that season primarily because she annoyed me so much.  I guess I should thank her for that, come to think of it...

;)
Title: Re: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on June 01, 2007, 07:45:52 pm
Ooh, Phillip - just watched your second clip.  WTG, Alicia Silverstone!  I now have something else to love about her besides her performance in "Clueless" (which was classic).

And The Donald - "the dumbest person in television."  LMFAO!  I never thought I'd say this, but THANK you, Donald.


            OMFG i laughed my head off when he said that.  She was so cute on survivor...but she made it thru on someone elses back,,,,and she is so cute still, but she is like Barbie,,all body w/no brains...she is overplaying her role,
as the resident airhead...She is stupid and vapid, and has no natural born intellect...just another republican mouth.....
Title: Re: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: Ellemeno on June 09, 2007, 07:53:52 am
Wait a minute, after watching that first clip, to me the earth-shaking thing is that Joy Behar read her list out loud on American TV. 
Title: Re: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: Shasta542 on June 09, 2007, 08:09:36 am
Rosie is really pleasant as long as everyone agrees with her. Then, when she can't bully someone into seeing things her way, she quits. She's on a show where 2 of the 5 mostly agree with her, 1 (Barb) either remains neutral or does damage control, and then the 1 poor little conservative dared stand her own ground and Rosie couldn't take the heat.

If she wanted to be clear on who she was referring to as terrorists, she should have spit it out---it's not up to Elisabeth to translate for Rosie. I would have rather Rosie finished out her 3 weeks instead of trashing her dressing room, having her friend/agent draw a moustache on Elisabeth's picture, and leaving in a big pouty huff.  
Title: Re: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: serious crayons on June 09, 2007, 12:14:05 pm
If she wanted to be clear on who she was referring to as terrorists, she should have spit it out---it's not up to Elisabeth to translate for Rosie. I would have rather Rosie finished out her 3 weeks instead of trashing her dressing room, having her friend/agent draw a moustache on Elisabeth's picture, and leaving in a big pouty huff.

Last time I tried to watch those videos I couldn't get them to work, so I finally just watched them now, and I agree, Shasta.

I like Rosie, think she's hilarious and entertaining, and have defended her all along. And my political views match hers, not Elizabeth's.

But in this argument, I sided with Elizabeth. It didn't sound to me like she was betraying Rosie but, as she said, giving Rosie a chance to speak for herself. Rosie's behavior was bullying and childish.

And note to Donald Trump: Elizabeth the dumbest person on TV? You've got to be kidding. She's no Einstein, but there are FAR dumber people on TV than Elizabeth.

Title: Re: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: injest on June 20, 2007, 12:03:20 am
I saw a piece on the news about Rosie at a concert talking bad about "heteros" and how they can't be trusted...

that is wrong. I know straight people have picked on gay people but it is wrong to make prejudiced comments....no matter who you are or who you are talking about...
Title: Re: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: delalluvia on June 20, 2007, 01:14:37 am
Rosie has issues, that's for sure. 

I like Rosie, I like her humor, have defended her, but she can come across as both controlling and defensive. 

Like Shasta said, Rosie has problems with people who don't see things her way and can't be brow-beat into seeing things her way.  She doesn't respect other people's POV when she feels hers is the right POV.  If other people start to defend their POV and start to dissect her stance, she feels like she's being attacked, hence her recent comment about being stabbed in the back.

Was she joking?  :-\
Title: Re: Rosie Has Left The View
Post by: Ellemeno on June 20, 2007, 06:06:22 am
I saw a piece on the news about Rosie at a concert talking bad about "heteros" and how they can't be trusted...



You know, in my early days as a Brokie, I think I read three posts, each by a different gay man, saying something similar about "what straights think."  Each time I PMed the writer, and said something like, "Hey, it feels uncomfortable that you generalized like that about ALL straights."

I don't think I've read anything in ages here that conveyed that kind of generalizing about heteros.  I think maybe everybody's opening everybody's minds around here.  (How's that for a generalization?) 

:)