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Title: Something good from Italy
Post by: luigival on May 07, 2006, 07:58:42 am
Yesterday evening, while watching Live (a 30 minutes transmission dealing with hot cinema topics, broadcast on ComingSoon TV, the Italian cinema channel), I discovered that at the end of April an Italian independent association of cinema lovers hosted the online IOMA (Italian Online Movie Association) 2006 Awards. And the winner was.....BBM!!!!
Best movie, best director and best soundtrack went to our beloved film.
Funny thing: CRASH, which got a number of nominations, was not awarded anything, while Matchpoint (which I believe is another great movie) won best original screenplay and best actress in a secondary role (Scarlett Johansson).
What is most important in this award is the fact that the jury is made up by actual cinema-goers, not official critics or other pompous and roboant names, so it may reflect more what was the feeling of real public.
Another funny thing, browsing through the jury names, I found one named EnnisDelMar and another one named Donniedarko: any relationship with Bettermost residents?

For those of you who can read italian, the website is: www.ioma.it
There's also a great forum dealing with major cinema topics, and the threads on BBM are very good too, and worth of appearing here on Bettermost too, I'd say.

Here's the list of IOMA nominees for 2006 (it's in Italian but I bet easy to understand):

MIGLIOR FILM
I segreti di Brokeback Mountain
Good night, and good luck
Match Point
Munich
Old boy

Vincitore: I segreti di Brokeback Mountain

MIGLIOR FILM ITALIANO
La bestia nel cuore
Quo vadis baby?
Romanzo criminale
La seconda notte di nozze
La tigre e la neve

Vincitore: Romanzo Criminale

MIGLIOR REGIA
Ang Lee (I segreti di Brokeback Mountain)
David Cronenberg (A history of violence)
George Clooney (Good night, and good luck)
Steven Spielberg (Munich)
Woody allen (Match Point)

Vincitore: Ang Lee (I segreti di Brokeback Mountain)

MIGLIOR FILM D'ANIMAZIONE
Il castello errante di Howl
Madagascar
La sposa cadavere

Vincitore: La sposa cadavere

MIGLIOR ATTORE PROTAGONISTA
David Strathairn (Good night, and good luck)
Joaquin Phoenix (Walk the line - Quando l'amore brucia l'anima)
Johnny Depp (Charlie e la fabbrica di cioccolato)
Jonathan Rhys-Meyers (Match point)
Philip Seymour Hoffman (Truman Capote - A sangue freddo)

Vincitore: Philip Seymour Hoffman (Truman Capote - A sangue freddo)

MIGLIOR ATTRICE PROTAGONISTA
Felicity Huffman (Transamerica)
Giovanna Mezzogiorno (La bestia nel cuore)
Lee Young-ae (Lady vendetta)
Naomi Watts (King Kong)
Reese Witherspoon (Walk the line - Quando l'amore brucia l'anima)

Vincitrice: Felicity Huffman (Transamerica)


MIGLIOR ATTORE NON PROTAGONISTA
George Clooney (Syriana)
Matt Dillon (Crash - Contatto fisico)
Michael Caine (Batman Begins)
Paul Giamatti (Cinderella man - Una ragione per lottare)
Pierfrancesco Favino (Romanzo criminale)

Vincitore: Pierfrancesco Favino (Romanzo Criminale)

MIGLIOR ATTRICE NON PROTAGONISTA
Angela Finocchiaro (La bestia nel cuore)
Maria Bello (A history of violence)
Michelle Williams (I segreti di Brokeback Mountain)
Scarlett Johansson (Match point)
Thandie Newton (Crash - Contatto fisico)

Vincitrice: Scarlett Johansson (Match Point)

MIGLIOR CAST
Crash - Contatto fisico
Good night, and good luck
Match point
Romanzo criminale
Sin City

Vincitore: Sin City

MIGLIOR SCENEGGIATURA ORIGINALE
Crash - Contatto fisico
Good night, and good luck
Match point
La samaritana
La sposa cadavere

Vincitore: Match Point

MIGLIOR SCENEGGIATURA NON ORIGINALE
Munich
Old boy
Sin City
I segreti di Brokeback Mountain
Truman Capote - A sangue freddo

Vincitore: Old Boy

MIGLIOR FOTOGRAFIA
Good night, and good luck
Munich
The new world
I segreti di Brokeback Mountain
Sin City

Vincitore: The new world

MIGLIOR MONTAGGIO
Crash - Contatto fisico
Good night, and good luck
Match point
Munich
Old boy

Vincitore: Old Boy

MIGLIOR COLONNA SONORA
I segreti di Brokeback mountain
Charlie e la fabbrica di cioccolato
Match point
The new world
La sposa cadavere

Vincitore: I segreti di Brokeback Mountain

MIGLIOR SCENOGRAFIA
Charlie e la fabbrica di cioccolato
King kong
Memorie di una geisha
Oliver twist
Orgoglio e pregiudizio

Vincitore: Charlie e la fabbrica di cioccolato

MIGLIOR COSTUMI
Charlie e la fabbrica di cioccolato
King Kong
Memorie di una geisha
Orgoglio e pregiudizio
The new world

Vincitore: Charlie e la fabbrica di cioccolato

MIGLIOR TRUCCO
Charlie e la fabbrica di cioccolato
Le cronache di Narnia: il leone, la strega e l’armadio
Land of the dead - La terra dei morti viventi
Sin City
Star Wars ep. III - La vendetta dei Sith

Vincitore: Sin City

MIGLIOR EFFETTI SPECIALI
Batman Begins
La guerra dei mondi
Harry Potter e il calice di fuoco
King Kong
Star Wars ep. III - La vendetta dei Sith

Vincitore: King Kong

PREMIO SPECIALE CINEMA AVVENIRE (www.cimemavvenire.it)

Vincitore: Un'ora sola ti vorrei di Alina Marazzi

PREMIO SPECIALE DELLA WEB-CRITICA ALLA MIGLIOR OPERA PRIMA
Me and you and everyone we know
Ogni cosa č illuminata
Le tre sepolture

Vincitore: Le tre sepolture di Tommy Lee Jones

Yuppie!!! So glad the BBM spirit is alive and well in Italy.
Luigi
Title: Re: Something good from Italy
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 07, 2006, 09:12:02 am
Me too! From Sergio Leone to BBM, the Italians understand the Western mystique! OT, is there a big buildup for the Da Vinci Code there?
Title: Re: Something good from Italy
Post by: luigival on May 07, 2006, 09:54:10 am
Yes Front Ranger,
the Da Vinci Code is already very much talked about here, and I'm curious to see it in theatres soon (did not read the book though). Talking movies yesterday night went seeing M-I-III, premiering in my local cinema: amazingly there were only 20 viewers at the 8.00pm saturday show.
I didn't expect much from it, and actually didn't get much, though the actors performances are good... I think I will forget very soon this movie!
Title: Re: Something good from Italy
Post by: silkncense on May 07, 2006, 01:05:45 pm
Uhh---what does "I segreti di" mean? 
Title: Re: Something good from Italy
Post by: opinionista on May 07, 2006, 01:22:20 pm
Uhh---what does "I segreti di" mean? 

I segreti di Brokeback Mountain means The secret of Brokeback Mountain.  In Spain was Brokeback Mountain: En terrero Vedado (On forbidden land).
Title: Re: Something good from Italy
Post by: luigival on May 07, 2006, 01:48:24 pm
Uhh---what does "I segreti di" mean? 
I segreti di Brokeback Mountain means The secret of Brokeback Mountain.  In Spain was Brokeback Mountain: En terrero Vedado (On forbidden land).

Well, actually it means "The secrets of Brokeback Mountain", as "I segreti" is plural for "Il segreto" which stands for "The secret".
Curiously enough, in France the film was titled "Le secret de Brokeback Mountain", using the singular. That means, as it had already been posted in a thread on IMDB, in Italy we have more than a secret about this movie...
Title: Re: Something good from Italy
Post by: opinionista on May 07, 2006, 03:37:10 pm
Well, actually it means "The secrets of Brokeback Mountain", as "I segreti" is plural for "Il segreto" which stands for "The secret".
Curiously enough, in France the film was titled "Le secret de Brokeback Mountain", using the singular. That means, as it had already been posted in a thread on IMDB, in Italy we have more than a secret about this movie...

Thanks for clearing that up Luigi. I don't really speak italian but it's so close to Spanish, that I can understand it a bit.
Title: Re: Something good from Italy
Post by: TJ on May 07, 2006, 04:48:56 pm
If you wish to read a "babelfish" translation of the original article in English, click this link:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/ (http://babelfish.altavista.com/)

Put the URL of the original article in the part where it says translate the webpage and choose Italian to English and click the button.

It will not be a perfect translation; but, the English reader can get the main idea of the page.

I use that from time to time.
Title: Re: Something good from Italy
Post by: silkncense on May 07, 2006, 06:27:50 pm
Thanks all! 

Now if I could just get an Italian Jake to say those words - any words - (except maybe "go away) to me - that would even be better!
Title: Re: Something good from Italy
Post by: luigival on May 08, 2006, 02:40:33 pm
If you wish to read a "babelfish" translation of the original article in English, click this link:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/ (http://babelfish.altavista.com/)

Put the URL of the original article in the part where it says translate the webpage and choose Italian to English and click the button.

It will not be a perfect translation; but, the English reader can get the main idea of the page.

I use that from time to time.

Good suggestion TJ, though often translations with Babelfish come out as something very funny.
Anyway what I posted, more than an article, was a list of nominations ordered per category, with the winner at the end of each (in Italian winner translates as "vincitore" for males and "vincitrice" for females). Sorry that many foreign movies get completely different titles in Italian, and viceversa. As an example the Italian Oscar candidate movie was titled "La bestia nel cuore" which literally means "The beast in the heart", but in the US was released as "Don't say". Likewise, "Walk the line" was released in Italy as "Quando l'amore brucia l'anima", literally "When love burns your soul".
Luigi
Title: Re: Something good from Italy
Post by: TJ on May 08, 2006, 10:56:01 pm
If I use the babelfish translator program for a Spanish language webpage, I am reminded of the time when I was an undergraduate with a Spanish major. I had to make sure that the translation into English was not word for word but idiom for idiom. Some expressions in one language don't translated well into another.

That's how some of the Brokeback Mountain English expressions don't translate or interpret well with English Speaking Americans on the East Coast or the West Coast. Or sometimes from Wyoming lingo translated into Texas (where Larry McMurtry is from) or Missouri/Arizona (where Diana Ossana is from/currently lives) lingo gets misunderstood too.

I hope I made that above sentence clear.
Title: Re: Something good from Italy
Post by: Front-Ranger on June 26, 2006, 10:10:23 am
Luigi, time to come back for your monthly check-in with your fellow Brokies and to accept your birthday accolades! Tho I can't blame Luigi for leaving the computer and enjoying the summer in Sardinia or wherever he is roaming to. We need a report!!
Title: Re: Something good from Italy
Post by: j.U.d.E. on June 26, 2006, 10:38:57 am
I was wondering about Luigi too! (and Reanna!) Luigi, any chance you might join our EURO meeting in London in September? I'm recruiting..  :laugh:

~ j U d E