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Title: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on August 29, 2007, 11:11:45 am
My Dear BetterMost Family,

Before I type anything else, I have to ‘cover my ass,’ so to speak.  SO, it is not my intention to discredit or speak as a representative of the Roman catholic Church, the Order of St. Benedict, Christianity in general or any other ‘way’ that one is able to connect with God.  I have made a vow of Obedience as a Benedictine monk and if I am ordered to stop revealing my life changing new awareness of Creation as I now understand it, I will just not be around anymore.   Sorry, but I am not well and my vows were Mutual in that I have to do what I am told BUT I will also be taken care of for the rest of my time on the planet.  

NOW, with that out of the way let me Begin to try to explain the amazing transformation that I have gone through.  It would not have been possible without the film “Brokeback Mountain” and all of you here at BetterMost, especially Lynne Steele, who got me to open up to you all in the first place even though I am really shy.  Since around July 20th, I have been really sick and was sure my kidneys were failing and I was dying.  Since I am a DNR, I just was grateful to have leftover pain killers to make me as comfortable as possible.  On Saturday, August 11, 2007, I had THREE near death experiences – one right after the other, during the afternoon.  I was and continue to be unafraid of dying  … but there were some lingering strange feelings about what the actual transformation would involve.  Those are now gone.  It's as natural as ‘blinking your eyes.’   I now can see myself building a huge sign with “NO FEAR” written on it.   After the near death experiences, i.e., going into the light… -  I was totally at peace.  Sometime early Sunday morning, I died.  Now I could write a book about that because it was so awesome and if anybody wants to know anything, ASK!   If I am ‘able’ to tell you I sure will.  There were just NO WORDS for the majority of the Experience.

*****

What is important to get out now, is that the LGBT community and their loving friends have always been special to God.  He has made a COVENANT with us and he calls us “The People of the Rainbow.”  This revelation filled me with awe and gratitude.  I continue to marvel at this compassionate relationship we have with God.


His Covenant states:  I LOVE YOU.  I HAVE ALWAYS LOVED YOU.  I WLL ALWAYS LOVE YOU.  I TAKE CARE OF YOU.  I HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN CARE OF YOU AND I ALWAYS WILL.

My part in all of this is to now post again, "THE PERFECT PRAYER" - I am being told quite clearly to do this.  It's on BetterMost somewhere but needs to be restated here as a gift to All of us.  It always works.  EVERY situation in which you find yourself is covered. It can’t fail. I’ve put it together from Scripture, prayer and the writings of Oswald Chambers and have been praying it for years.  It reveals that God isn’t ‘out there somewhere.’  He Is IN the Moment!  It’s really simple:

“Engineer my circumstances, O LORD, according to Your Will.”


God told me that this is a PERFECT PRAYER and a huge number of people would be ‘saved*’ by it.  (Since I am a Christian, it was an appropriate way to describe it.)  I was surprised but not uncomfortable in the least.  All this time I was being sung to by many voices singing “Your Perfect Prayer, has brought you – somewhere - you have waited for – all your life - in perfect prayer…”

In Heavenly Peace!~!~!~!   :D
br. patrick

*: understood to be used to develop the need for the conventional use of this word (in Christianity)  BUT NOW it is for anyone on the Planet, a truly Universal word in order to Covenant with The Supreme Being.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on August 29, 2007, 11:27:34 am
Friend, you have come back to us with a very important message. I wonder if perhaps the purpose of your suffering might be to put you in a position to receive it. It is a very profound and moving testament you have posted here, and your efforts to include other povs speak to the universality of this life force.

I think to our friend Impish who no longer posts here who shared his agnostic belief and I so wish there could be a bridge to him. However we chose to get thru the world we live in is our own choice, and there is room at the table for everyone. I myself have need to know there is something beyond this, and I am thankful for your message. I think this life force is alright too.

So glad to hear you are well enough to post, I will keep you in my thoughts. I understand about your vows, but if you get messages, I hope you will get the word out some how, even in your private writings. The written word scared and can carry the message into a time when it can be heard.

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: moremojo on August 29, 2007, 12:05:30 pm
Brother Patrick, thank you for sharing this holy message for all of us. Let those of us who have eyes, see, and those of us with ears, hear, what you bring to us to contemplate. My thoughts earlier this month have been close to death, so I am very interested in learning what others have to share on that subject. What your experiences seem to reaffirm is that there is no true death, only the fading away of the body and our attachments to this earth. The quintessence of who we are endures and is welcomed home by the transforming power of God's Love.

I am very interested in your story. I will check back here to reread, and to learn any more news you care to impart to us. God bless you, friend!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: pettifogger on August 29, 2007, 12:09:36 pm
Peace be with you Brother Patrick.  You have received a rare blessing.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lumière on August 29, 2007, 03:01:00 pm
Hey Brother P,

I am so very pleased to see you back.  How it warms my heart.
The words you have posted here touch me immensely.
Thank you.
I may have to read it very often.  :)


So good to see you back!  :-*
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

Warm hugs,
~M
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on August 29, 2007, 03:40:15 pm
Friend, you have come back to us with a very important message. I wonder if perhaps the purpose of your suffering might be to put you in a position to receive it. It is a very profound and moving testament you have posted here, and your efforts to include other povs speak to the universality of this life force.

YES!!!!!! As I now understand it, my 'body' HAD to SHUT DOWN for the transformation of my soul, my essence, whatever words you would want.  I was told that this message, because of the innate nature of the Internet, is going to spread all over the world!  (Actually, I was told that it already had.  I was dead, afterall.   And the ECTASY is ... there are just no words.  If I were to compare all of the Ecstatic times in prayer that I used to have, I would now say they brought me about 6 inches high.    The INCREDIBLE Ecstasy of Sunday, August 12 was like going to the moon!   I didn't know that my 'body' was CAPABLE of receiving that much pleasure!)  I want to shut up so others can add.  WE ARE BLESSED! and that is just totally awesome!

So SHARE!

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,12709.0.html


hugs~ :)
br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: moremojo on August 29, 2007, 03:55:46 pm
Brother Patrick, Sunday, August 12 was a dark time for me. The despair that took hold of me earlier this month began to germinate at around that time. Isn't it ironic that one saw the Light and was raised to new heights, while one saw an engulfing darkness that seemed to smite away the pleasure and goodness of life? I am so happy you had this experience, and chose to come back to share it with the rest of us. And I'm happy that I stayed around long enough to get the message. Thank you kindly, friend!

I have heard/read others describe these near-death experiences as being beyond words. They seem to point towards a realm where words, names, or labels of any kind are not needed. At the same time, I find these very fascinating to learn about, so please feel free to share as much as you feel comfortable--if not on this thread, you could always PM me.

God bless, and Godspeed.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on August 29, 2007, 04:03:35 pm
Brother Patrick, Sunday, August 12 was a dark time for me.

I am SO Sorry to hear that but close your eyes and receive the best Cyberhug that I can now send!

Stay tuned... ::)
br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: David In Indy on August 29, 2007, 04:07:35 pm
Brother Patrick -

Thank you SO much for post this! I have always felt I have a very special relationship with God. And in a world that is always telling us that God hates us, what you have told us today is very refreshing and something we all need to hear. I'm so sorry you have been sick though. I hope you will feel better again very soon!  :)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on August 30, 2007, 07:05:52 am
Brother Patrick, thank you for sharing this holy message for all of us. Let those of us who have eyes, see, and those of us with ears, hear, what you bring to us to contemplate. My thoughts earlier this month have been close to death, so I am very interested in learning what others have to share on that subject. What your experiences seem to reaffirm is that there is no true death, only the fading away of the body and our attachments to this earth. The quintessence of who we are endures and is welcomed home by the transforming power of God's Love.

You are right on about the "fading away" of our attachments.   My body was slowly shutting down surrounded by all of my electronics that I used to 'need' to distract from inner pain.  I felt the need for ANY 'Thing' just disappear!  My experience of my death wasn't difficult in the least.  I was so, so very tired and I just let go.  Then the music started and the more I let go the stronger my awareness of a "NEW" reality set in.  I heard the phrase:  "Well Done, Good And Faithful Servant" many times in many voices.  I used to have an incredibly difficult time accepting any kind of 'praise' in the Beforetime.  Now, it's so easy!  The GRATITUDE is just There!  When I was told something to the effect of "You can get up now and enjoy your new life," I got up, had incredible energy and found myself in my usual surroundings.  But everything was changed that Sunday morning.  I heard birds outside my window chirping with high frequencies that must have been around 50KHz~!  I put a slide show on my Media Center Computer (which slowly pans each image) and the pictures were in 3-D~!  Someone on BetterMost had posted pictures of their flower garden (THANKS!) and it was awesome seeing INTO the petals.   I can go on and on and on about this so if anyone is interested, let me know...
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: MaineWriter on August 30, 2007, 07:10:02 am
I am interested. Please do go on...

Leslie
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on August 30, 2007, 07:52:43 am
I am interested. Please do go on...

Leslie

I'll do my best...   All of my senses were enhanced~!  TOUCH was incredible.  When I held a leaf (that I had plucked the day before) with my thumb and index finger, the sensations traveled well up into my arm.   The Texture was awesome.   Here it comes., there are just NO WORDS to describe it.   When I walked around my apartment, the soles of my feet felt awesomely NO WORDS.  I got the message that if I opened the door, I could go anywhere I wanted, at any time I wanted.  I didn't need that at that moment and went in my bedroom, layed on the bed and sipped a rare soda made in Brazil from a fruit that grows ONLY in Brazil.  It was Heavenly Nectar!  And I realized that I hadn't eaten anything more than a tiny bit of a Pop-Tart all week.  I had no desire for food.  I realized that I had been in constant prayer for over a week.  (Still Am!)

What happened next will take a long time to put into words so I have to prepare for that one...  Might take me a while but I continue to "enjoy" (NO WORD) what is STILL happening in me "as long as 'I' can ride it.  Ain't NO reins on this one" (either)!

{{{{{peace to all LGBT's and their Loving Friends}}}}}

Anniversary note:  The experiences of doing 'normal' things like walkiing and what I experienced then I NOW call comparing a photograph with the Real Thing!
br. p    ::)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on August 30, 2007, 07:54:02 am
I am interested too, and have questions as well.

One thing that stinkes me is that you were prepared for this to happen, so it was peaceful and easy. I am wondering if a person is unprepared, fighting it, or comes to this point by accident of attack, could the process be less than peaceful, I am not sure you would know how those scenarios play out.

That Sunday, the 12th, I wrote a piece I have not posted here because it really didn;t fit in. It was an account of an elderly couple losing thier only son and visiting a place where his last picture was taken. The trip to Alberta had brought it back to mind. It would almost seem like several of us have reached some sort of crux about that time.  
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: moremojo on August 30, 2007, 10:07:31 am
Brother Patrick, let me tell you what frightens me about these near-death experiences, and I'm wondering if these aspects figured in your journey. Many people describe passing through a long, dark tunnel at a tremendous speed (Betty Eadie described her journey through the darkness as being so fast that "not even light-years could measure it"), and, as someone who is very frightened of travelling at great speed, I find myself dreading this possible part of my future (if and when it comes to pass).

Then, most people describe heading towards an effulgently bright light, a light immeasurably brighter than our sun, but which causes no discomfort when gazing into it. Many sense that God is within this Light, and sometimes get affirmation of this when passing into it. Now, an immensely bright light actually brings me little comfort; I've always felt much more at home in the dark, yielding night than the strident, glaring day, and the idea of finding myself in a radiant light-filled realm with no shadows definitely brings me some anxiety. That may sound strange to a lot of people, but it's true for me.

I've felt that many of our fears arise from being within a physical body. Perhaps when released from our physical constraints, the fears that germinate thereby (fears of falling, of bearing pain that the body cannot withstand, etc, etc) vanish away like a bad dream.

Please feel free to share and elaborate on anything as you please.

Thanks,
Scott
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on August 30, 2007, 12:28:20 pm



  very interesting!!!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on August 30, 2007, 06:40:08 pm
I am interested too, and have questions as well.

One thing that strikes me is that you were prepared for this to happen, so it was peaceful and easy. I am wondering if a person is unprepared, fighting it, or comes to this point by accident of attack, could the process be less than peaceful, I am not sure you would know how those scenarios play out.
 

What came to me quite clearly after reflecting on my own death is that EVERYONE will get time frozen and will get more peace and happiness than one could possibly imagine on the planet.   Also, I truly believe that a Buddist would get what a Buddist would expect and a Sunni Muslim, etc...  The experience was Perfectly tailored to ME!!!  We're all like DOTS - Connected.   The biggest problem is how to explain all of this to someone who hasn't experienced it.

As for people being frightened by such experiences, let's just say that not everything in the Spiritual Realm is a friend...  That's the final word on THAT!  Doesn't deserve even that many words....  But when it's the Real Thing, everyone will get a personally tailored experience that makes it so easy to leave everything behind.  Now that I think of it, there was a point where I was concerned about breathing.  Pure Thought put any fear far away.  THAT's the best way to descibe communications, PURE THOUGHT!

I have a brand new Spiritual Paradigm and I am just beginning to learn about it.   I'll share everything I can.

{{{Heavenly Hugs}}}
br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on August 31, 2007, 12:46:06 pm
“Engineer my circumstances, O Lord, according to your Will.”

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference."

"If you can't fix it, you got to stand it"

"Let be, let be"

In someway or another these statements all lead back to the same conclusion, that there is little we can do as humans about the big picture, we need to just trust it will be okay.

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: moremojo on August 31, 2007, 01:05:33 pm
In someway or another these statements all lead back to the same conclusion, that there is little we can do as humans about the big picture, we need to just trust it will be okay.
Abhinavagupta, the great eleventh-century synthesizer of Kashmir Saivism, taught that the individual consciousness and God were one and the same, hence we are all the creators of our own reality. Enlightenment consists of the recognition and direct experience of this Divine Truth.

I find this belief system very appealing intellectually, but emotionally I feel the great desire to relate to God as "Someone Out There Looking Out For Me", a father figure, if you will, who loves me Unconditionally as his beloved son. Thus do I sometimes appeal to and pray to God, even though I fundamentally believe that essentially I am praying to myself.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on August 31, 2007, 04:09:31 pm
...emotionally I feel the great desire to relate to God as "Someone Out There Looking Out For Me", a father figure, if you will, who loves me Unconditionally as his beloved son. Thus do I sometimes appeal to and pray to God, even though I fundamentally believe that essentially I am praying to myself.

You're not far from what I now understand.  The only difference is "he" isn't out there, he's right behind your essence, (your mind, your spirit), every moment.  There's no way to turn our consciousness behind us without some kind of help from he who made us.   AND ON THAT POINT!!!!

I remember when I was "here."  They call this planet "there" and their existence "here"; I remember asking "Up Here?" and was told in the kindest manner that I could describe, "Not UP, just HERE."   And that makes me remember the ESSENCE of the Creator explaining to me that "the people of the Rainbow" are actually MORE made in God's likeness in that we include aspects of Both Male and Female in a way that is unique in each one of us.  That we are (I'm trying to translate now so bear with me...) like a Sub-Genus of our Species; not just homo-sapians but homo-homo-sapians.

It was so very easy to communicate with our Creator!   Every question I ever had was warmly answered.   And he kept changing outward (another bad translation) 'appearances' but his Essence remained the same.   One of his "characters?" was absolutely hilarious!   I laughed for hours and hours.   He reminded me of our BetterMost Sage, Daniel, so when I think of the Hilarious God, I think of Daniel.  His use of language was awesome and he could twist meanings in the most funny way that, in the end, you understood far more than you had asked originally.   Unfortunately, I don't remember what I asked him.   But it was so natural, a friend to a friend; a lover to a lover;  I never felt inferior in the least (which for me was very strange but I accepted it nonetheless).   Here I go, on and on again.

More will come; more need to know
{{{love}}}
br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: moremojo on August 31, 2007, 05:20:32 pm
"a lover to a lover"--This is very interesting to read. I'm so happy to think that this kind of relationship, feeling might be found in the Beyond as well as on earth. I've always thought that the earthly attachment I'd miss most on the other side would be the warm, delicious intimacy of physical union with another human being. I suppose the PHYSICAL aspect might indeed be absent, but the emotional and spiritual feelings associated with this experience could still be obtained...and with our very Creator, no less. Some people might find that kind of thought blasphemous, but I actually find it quite marvellous (Hindu tradition provides for God as Lover (i.e., Krishna and the gopis).

Please continue, as it suits you to do so...
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 01, 2007, 04:41:20 am
Please continue, as it suits you to do so...

I have a whole NEW understanding of the concept of TIME.  God is "In The Moment" and Every Moment in the Everlasting Now.  Time is a 'creation' just like we are.   From the perspective that I gained while dead, I now understand it to be entirely available all at the same time - hence the concept of the 'Everlasting Now.'   In the Beforetime I was starting to see that because of a film called "Loggerheads" (2005 - highly recommended) which had 3 separate but related stories occurring simultaneously even though each story happened in a different year.   This explains why I was told that I could open the door of my dwelling and go anywhere, anytime that I wanted.  I think I would have stayed 'dead' if I had not answered the phone.  But it didn't change the new way I experience The One Who Is.

For whatever reason, I did not see what we would call the "future" in anyway whatsoever.  To me it just says our Creator and his creation are just unfolding 'Live' in the moment.  That doesn't mean that the Creator does not have some kind of plan, but when I asked about it I really wasn't able to understand the answer as easily as it was for other questions.  From what I remember, and I'm sure my inability to recall this is because the Creator doesn't want us to be able to "put him in a box" that will ONLY take into consideration what one has been taught, it seems that we each have our own separate plans, which would be similar for others in a particular way i.e., Christians, but still uniquely ours.  I'm sure that All plans will eventually end up in the same 'place' of unending Ecstasy.  Where I 'was' was definitely a place of ecstasy but also one of transition.  While we chatted, I could 'hear' essences of other people thanking ME for the "Perfect Prayer" while they 'traveled' through the reality that I found myself in.

Anniversary note: The 'voices' of the people that traveled through my reality came at me 'floor' to 'ceiling' at about a 60 Degree Angle (Another plane of existance??)

I wish I could again have that intimate experience of Lover to beloved so that I could write answers as I 'hear' them but I am STILL in constant prayer; haven't been ABLE to stop since August 6th when I  was healed of my 'Crack Addiction' (not the drug, the lust of the male backside).  Now, in the little time that I am out of my apartment, for Dr's appointments, etc., I am noticing FACES in a way that is totally new because of my experience of the changing outward (no word better than) 'appearance' of the Creator while his essence remained the same.

We are all indeed made in his 'image' as he chose to reveal himself to me.  I also had the incredible insight that a countless number of other things was occurring while we simply enjoyed each other's company.   It was so fabulous because I was known so intimately.  And as the visit continued, my experience of Who I was talking to was growing exponentially.  And then there was the music... need to think about how to convey that for awhile...

{{{heavenly hugs to all}}}}
br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 01, 2007, 01:09:32 pm
“Engineer my circumstances, O Lord, according to your Will.”

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference."

"If you can't fix it, you got to stand it"

"Let be, let be"

In someway or another these statements all lead back to the same conclusion, that there is little we can do as humans about the big picture, we need to just trust it will be okay.


This is difficult for me to address because I really don't want anyone's feelings hurt or think that their input is being rejected by "someone who thinks he's superior."   I DON'T think that I'm superior.   I DON'T want your feelings to be hurt in any way.  You have grouped statements that don't do the same thing.   Damn this is difficult!  But it's like putting an onion in ice-cream - one just wouldn't do that...   So, humbly as I can possibly be, {{and with heavenly help needed!!!}}, let's sort these out.  The last two of your statements fit your concluding sentence perfectly.   "If you can't fix it, you got to stand it," and "Let be, let be" are best understood as Defense Mechanism's which help one to exist an in an otherwise cruel world.  I've used them both myself TO SURVIVE and they WORK as far as that goes ... but there are better ways.  One can truly LIVE and not merely SURVIVE.

The AA 12 Steps Prayer is great for those using the program and others who find this helpful.   But it places all of the 'work' on yourself.   YOU have to courageously change what you can, with God's wisdom.  It's great BUT there is a better way and that is why, I believe, that it was deemed the "PERFECT PRAYER," and Not By Me!!!  I was told this clearly in my life-changing near-death experience!

I will try to take it apart.  It does require the gift of 'faith in a higher power (God)' but that's available to anyone who asks and needed to trust what then will happen as part of God's Intimate involvement in each of our lives.  "If you can't fix it" then you need to TRUST that God not only knows how, but will do it in the most ordinary (or extraordinary) ways one can think of.   I never grow tired of watching things 'randomly' happening that just fit what is needed for the particular circumstances that I find myself in.  (GOD, I sound like a BetterMost PREACHER and that's not my job!!!!) :o

One needs to believe that God's WILL is PERFECT and I can tell you from years of hands on experience that it is.   We all have free will and can do as we choose.  By praying the Perfect Prayer, one relinquishes this 'right' to Someone who KNOWS exactly what we Need in a particular moment AND how to make it happen!  And it always does!

The way it does may not seem at the time to be right at all.  I know this from experience!   BUT, retrospect always shows that a 'certain door' was closed so that 'another one' could open.  In HINDSIGHT everything becomes clear.  When one can accept God's Covenant with "the people of the rainbow" and their loving friends, you just know that what is happening is best for us.   I can't say this strongly enough... We Are REALLY SPECIAL to God, and we always have been.

Let me take that one step further.  We are 'buds' at the end of our genealogical family trees.  We get to have a LEGACY since we don't normally reproduce.  (I know that there are couples adopting and mothers bringing children into their same sex relationships.  They get BOTH!)  Heterosexuals can have both.  I told a friend who shared time with me on August 12th that Bettermost Sage, Daniel, has posted the answer here already concerning our Legacies.  This world would be a whole lot worse if it wasn't for US LGBT's. :)

My LEGACY, as I now understand it, it to pass on "God's Covenant" with the LGBT subculture and their loving friends, along with the "Perfect Prayer."  (This is so wierd because when I died, I was told that this had already happened!  DANG IT!  I was so easy to just accept it as fact.  It gets really hard when it seems I have to step on a friend's toes!)

Oh Well, with all the love I can now gift you with...  :-*
br. p

P.S.  This has been the hardest one yet!  Lighten up, Lord, PLEASE?
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 01, 2007, 01:29:07 pm
I eagerly look forward to each NEW post . And....Looking forward to celebrating your Silver Jubilee ( 25th year as a solemn professed Benedictine Monk) on All Saints Day ( Nov. 1st ) with you.

That's funny to me because I already did, in 2004.  I made what is called 'temporary vows' on November 1, 1979.  They lasted three years.  Then I was (again) voted in for Solemn (lifetime) vows in 1982.

My GIFT for my 25th took me a couple of years to decide on but it's the Media Center PC on which I saw pictures pan slowly across the screen in Awesome 3-D on August 12th!  From what I have learned, those pictures of flowers that I enjoyed so much came from someone called Roland.    THANKS ROLAND!

joyfully... :D
br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on September 02, 2007, 03:11:21 pm


      For my very special Friend...More Rufus.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmbQEQltOwM [/youtube]
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 03, 2007, 03:01:15 pm

      For my very special Friend...More Rufus.


My Dear Girl, You BLOW ME AWAY!  I play the keyboards by ear and wrote 5 volumes of inspired music that the monks continued to pray even after I moved here - to my sacred space, my apartment on the western shore of Lake Michigan. 

"Near restfull waters you lead me, to revive my drooping spirit"  Psalm 23, The Grail Translation

I was playing along with Rufus on my Yamaha 76 key keyboard by the time he got to the second chorus of "Hallelujah!"  AND it was so awesome to watch his hands.   That is truly A GIFT from you!  And so many songs in the playlist!  I wish I could download them in a format that is storable.  But, this is truly great!  It's funny that it includes a song by Leonard Cohen.   I just recorded Rufus singing "Everybody Knows" from an On Demand Movie about Leonard Cohen on Digital Cable.  I sing it along with him - it's great fun!  When I learn how to make that into a WMV, I will share IT with you.

SO, Thank you, dear lady, for the reviving of my drooping spirit that is missing that which I caught just a mere 'glimpse' of...

{{{Heaven on Earth is with FRIENDS}}}
br. p  :D
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 03, 2007, 03:41:08 pm
I'm so sorry you have been sick though. I hope you will feel better again very soon!  :)

I feel GREAT psychologically and spiritually.  My body is a real bummer.  Thanks for the warm wishes.  Come back often~!

{{{Heavenly Hugs}}}
br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on September 03, 2007, 04:55:09 pm



        I am very glad you are enjoying it.  I too love to watch his hands.  He has the most beautiful and long expressive hands, even if you dont watch him sing....I went to his concert here in Portland last month, and it was wonderful...He is so talented, and funny, and smart...A true entertainer.  As well as a singer musician and writer.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 04, 2007, 11:01:40 am
Brother Patrick I keep coming back to thought that may be clichets, but I think still have relevance to me on a personal level.

One of the points in conversation I have here and else where is there is not enough  time, but it sounds like in the transition there is all the time needed to sort out the issues, to reach an understanding of what we could not face of accept or realize. I think that is wonderful. How the experence can be tailored to each person undertanding strikes me as the marriage we need to recognize between ourselves and the spirit, we are all extentions of spirit and the process of returning to the pool as a chichet, helps me realize that.

I hope this makes sense.
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Post by: Br. Patrick on September 04, 2007, 03:33:22 pm
One of the points in conversation I have here and else where is there is not enough  time, but it sounds like in the transition there is all the time needed to sort out the issues, to reach an understanding of what we could not face of accept or realize. I think that is wonderful.

You speak of exactly what I experienced.  There was plenty enough time not just for questions and their intricately evolved answers, but also for quiet time.  To get used to the 'new' and just BE.   To me, I feel that I was there at least 10-12 hours but who knows, it may have been only a moment in the Everlasting-Now...

peace~!
br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on September 05, 2007, 01:51:36 pm

Here is a site that has some downloads...dont know if its what you are looking for



 :(http://www.myspace.com/rufuswainwright
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 05, 2007, 03:25:02 pm
Now, an immensely bright light actually brings me little comfort; I've always felt much more at home in the dark, yielding night than the strident, glaring day, and the idea of finding myself in a radiant light-filled realm with no shadows definitely brings me some anxiety. That may sound strange to a lot of people, but it's true for me.

I've felt that many of our fears arise from being within a physical body. Perhaps when released from our physical constraints, the fears that germinate thereby (fears of falling, of bearing pain that the body cannot withstand, etc, etc) vanish away like a bad dream.

Please feel free to share and elaborate on anything as you please.

Thanks,
Scott

Sorry to be so long to get back to you on this.  I have been watching YOUR thread!   You are just like me.  I CAN'T handle bright light - it really hurts my eyes.  I just gifted myself with an incredibly dark wrap-around pair of sunglasses that fit over my regular ones.   They really help but in the Beforetime, since I'm on disability, I had my schedule when I would go to sleep at 2PM and wake up around 10PM.   Then I was able to enjoy the QUIET and the comfort of the darkness.  I did most of my walks around the Lakeshore during those times.   Dawn is intensely great but there comes a point where it becomes genuinely painfull because the light is so bright.

When I died, I felt I had some kind of body, but it was more suited to the circumstances of the 'transition environment' that I found myself in.  The Creator, with whom I spoke, "appeared" in Many different bodies but with the same ESSENCE.   As I stated somewhere else, I did 'hear?' other 'essences' passing by me and were thanking me for the gift of the 'perfect prayer.'

So, I definitely agree with you.  To use your own words: "the fears that germinate thereby (fears of falling, of bearing pain that the body cannot withstand, etc, etc) vanish away like a bad dream."

BTW, the Reason I can't handle bright light is because of my medications.  I am on Dexedrine and something new called Provigil and they Definitely dilate the pupils.

Thanks, Scott for your invaluable input!
({[Heavenly Hugs]})

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 05, 2007, 03:27:02 pm
Having not been raised Catholic, I am only going on what I have heard over the years, but one thought that keeps coming back to me is "The Ecstasies" that people have experienced in the presence of the spirit over time. It sounds to me like that is what you have experienced, or is that too bold or broad a description?
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 05, 2007, 05:57:51 pm
Having not been raised Catholic, I am only going on what I have heard over the years, but one thought that keeps coming back to me is "The Ecstasies" that people have experienced in the presence of the spirit over time. It sounds to me like that is what you have experienced, or is that too bold or broad a description?

I don't think it has anything to do with what 'way' one has contact with the Divine.  As a hermit / monk, I lean toward a more contemplative prayer - i.e., that let's me 'hear' the Spirit in the silences.  At least that was the way it was in the Beforetime...  Looking back on all of the "ecstasy moments" I would now say they raised me about 6 inches above the ground.  In a weirdly REAL sort of way.  On Sunday August 12th, my best girlFriend in RL who had been with me through the entire experience decided we would use the Biblical Readings for that Sunday and pray them.  She is an ELCA Lutheran, I'm RC...  Our Lectionaries are nearly identical.  Now, she is a teacher and also in the process of learning Spanish.  I got straight A's in Spanish in High School and remarkably STILL remember lots of it.   So she was reading in Spanish, I was reading in English.  (Whenever one prayerfully reads scripture in whatever faith the "HOLY SPIRIT" or whatever they may call (him?) helps you understand.)  The first reading was great!  But it then came time for the Psalm.  Now, as a monk in the monastery, I prayed the psalms 4 times a day for 19 years and they are absolutely ingrained on my heart of hearts (cause I love them so much).  She started reading the psalm in Spanish, I followed her word for word in English then BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!  I got it in three languages at once.  Her: Spanish, Me: English, The Holy Spirit, who was clearly above us saying the same thing with PURE THOUGHT.   I went into the ecstasies of ecstasies.  I Had The Whole Stanza in my head SIMULTANEOUSLY and experienced the greatest physical pleasure that I EVER have in my entire life.  In comparison with the 6 inches, I WENT AS HIGH AS THE MOON!  And my HEART was pierced by a sword of Pure Love....

When I read that it is SO inadequate to try to convey.   St. Theresa Of Avila, a 15th Century Mystic had MANY Mystical experiences and wrote volumes about them...  Here is a sculpture of her receiving exactly what I received...

Hugs~~~!
br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: moremojo on September 05, 2007, 06:10:33 pm
(((((((Brother Patrick))))))) Hugs and blessings to our brother Patrick!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 05, 2007, 11:22:43 pm
I say this with the utmost admiration and respect: Shit Fire!

Do you get the feeling like it was just laying there all this time and you all picked it up? You knew the psalms by heart and here came voice along with you and in another language. The duality so apparent and yes, sometimes knowledge like that is like an open hand extended to you, by something else.

Bless You, Friend.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 06, 2007, 03:43:03 pm
I say this with the utmost admiration and respect: Shit Fire!

Do you get the feeling like it was just laying there all this time and you all picked it up? You knew the psalms by heart and here came voice along with you and in another language. The duality so apparent and yes, sometimes knowledge like that is like an open hand extended to you, by something else.

Bless You, Friend.

Knowing you, I'm sure that "Shit Fire!" is a good thing, but I am clueless as to what you are trying to say AND if you are saying it with admiration and respect then I HAVE to know!

It's difficult to talk about these experiences but 'duality' doesn't fit, TRINITY does,  ONE IDEA expressed in English, Spanish and PURE THOUGHT (best way I can express an inexpressible 'language')  As far as the Ecstasy went, only I felt it.  My friend just watched as I uttered meaningless sounds and writhed in the 'feeling' of Ecstasy.  I don't feel that I am able to express this very well.   Did you ever get 'high?' Did you ever have a 'body rush?'  Now AMPLIFY that infinitely and you may get some idea of the experience I was simply gifted with.  This probably doesn't answer you at all.  But it's the best I can do.  I can't do any better but continue to ask and we'll come to a mutual understanding.   I call it my Epiphany!   That means "manifestation of the Divine"...

I wish it would happen to you right this minute!

{{cyber-blessings right back atcha}}
br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 06, 2007, 04:09:38 pm
(((((((Brother Patrick))))))) Hugs and blessings to our brother Patrick!

Gratefully received and returned 100 fold...  (in dim light of course) 8)

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 06, 2007, 04:15:33 pm
Well I suppose I approach it from a ying/yang standpoint, but understand how the concept of the trinity would apply also. You and your friend were appraching the spirit in different tongues, when I pull back to include the spirit in my line of vision it is a trinity.

By shit fire, it is my countrified way of saying "Holy Smokes! You have been touched by something profound!" I take what you say seriously, but I always come across as a wild person.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 07, 2007, 03:34:26 am
By shit fire, it is my countrified way of saying "Holy Smokes! You have been touched by something profound!" I take what you say seriously, but I always come across as a wild person.

It reminds me of Genesis 16:12 referring to Abram's (Abraham's) concubine Hagar.
God told Hagar, “this son of yours will be a wild one, free and untamed as a wild ass! He will be against everyone, and everyone will feel the same towards him. But he will live near the rest of his kin”.

It refers to Ishmael, the firstborn of what would become the Muslims.

Abraham's second son, Isaac became the firstborn of Jews & Christians alike.   Another 'trinity...'

{{Shit fire, does that mean we're all related?}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: moremojo on September 07, 2007, 10:08:09 am
{{Shit fire, does that mean we're all related?}}
You bet!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 07, 2007, 11:11:53 am
 ;D
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 08, 2007, 11:19:12 am
I always come across as a wild person.

LOL, what honesty! Maybe Ishmael is a distant cousin?


{{{peace}}}
br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 08, 2007, 11:55:09 am
I am sure he is, with out a doubt.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on September 08, 2007, 12:40:19 pm
Hi there, Patrick - I'm caught up on your thread now.  Very sorry that I missed you for chatting this morning - it was only by about 10 minutes!!  ???

I love that you're sharing what you went through here.  I know that for myself I seem to be at something of a spiritual crossroads or crisis of self or whatever you want to call it (to channel Tru - "Shit Fire" - sometimes I just don't have words either).  So it seems to me that you're reaching a few of us.

I think I understand what you're saying about the onus being on the self versus spirit - the difference between the perfect prayer and the other three...

BTW, Janice - thank you for the Rufus link - love his version of Hallelujah!  A very nice way to wake up on a Saturday morning...
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 08, 2007, 03:26:22 pm
Hi there, Patrick - I'm caught up on your thread now.  Very sorry that I missed you for chatting this morning - it was only by about 10 minutes!!  ???

I love that you're sharing what you went through here.  I know that for myself I seem to be at something of a spiritual crossroads or crisis of self or whatever you want to call it (to channel Tru - "Shit Fire" - sometimes I just don't have words either).  So it seems to me that you're reaching a few of us.

I think I understand what you're saying about the onus being on the self versus spirit - the difference between the perfect prayer and the other three...

BTW, Janice - thank you for the Rufus link - love his version of Hallelujah!  A very nice way to wake up on a Saturday morning...


OK FOLKS we have Test Person (and what better person could deserve this help at this point in her life.)   Do it Lynne and TRUST.   If you feel 'nudges' when you go to do something, STOP what your doing and pray the perfect prayer.  I have come to regard these 'nudges' as a Sixth Sense!   And...  if you think you need to say something and you keep getting interrupted, this is a CLASSIC Nudge~!  That happens to me all of the time!  Boy if anyone could use some DIVINE help, it's you.  SO GO GIRL, and keep us posted!

{{{{Heavenly Hugs}}}}
br. p
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Post by: Br. Patrick on September 15, 2007, 07:17:53 am
To anybody who has been reading and just not posting (yet?  only need 5 more to get a red icon) remember "ifyoucanfixit" Janice in your prayers, positive thoughts or whatever way that you may use to intercede with the One Who IS for this wonderful woman.  She has a blood-clot in her lung.  She is really sweet and deserves all the best from all of us.  Thanks.

* * *


On another note, found this on the internet while searching for the words 'gay' and 'monk' in the same page.  Lots of hits.  Here is something that I find really familiar...



Now if the Gospel means anything at all it means that the Good News about God is unambivalent, that there are no “if”s and “but”s in God, God’s love is unconditional. And this means, above all, that there are no double-binds in God. That God desires that our desire should flow free, life-giving and untrammeled, because it is in that flow of desire that we are called into being.

Well, if that is the case, imagine then what might be a conversation between the Unambivalently loving God and the self:

UlG: I love you

Self: but I’m full of shit, how can you love me

UlG: I love you

Self: but you can’t love me, I’m part of all this muck

UlG: it’s you that I love

Self: how can it be me that you love when I’ve been involved in bad relationships, dark rooms, machinations against other people

UlG: it’s you that I love

Self: but…

UlG: it’s you that I love

Self: but…

UlG: it’s you that I love

Self: OK then, so are you just going to leave me in the shit?

UlG: Because I love you you are relaxing into my love and you will find yourself becoming loveable, indeed becoming someone that you will scarcely recognise

Self: Hadn’t I better do something to get all ready for this becoming loveable

UlG: Only if you haven’t yet got it that it’s I who do the work and you who get to shine. Because I love you, you are relaxing into being loved and will find yourself doing loveable things because you are loved

Self: I think I could go along with this.

---Copyright © 2007 GayCatholicForum.org All rights reserved.

The URL for the discussion is:
http://www.gaycatholicforum.org/html/unbinding.html

{PeaceLoveDove}
br. p


Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: MaineWriter on September 15, 2007, 07:43:53 am
I have been reading, Br. Patrick, but haven't posted. Thank you for the information about Janice. I will hold her close in my heart and prayers.

Leslie
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 16, 2007, 12:16:54 pm
Janice was at the Hoe Down last night, she seems to be doing well.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: injest on September 16, 2007, 12:20:27 pm
good to hear that Janice is doing well, Thank you Truman...
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on September 16, 2007, 12:26:25 pm
Hello, Brother Patrick... I hope you are recovering from whatever circumstances you have recently experienced. Although, in some ways, I fear the collapse of the mind and corruption of the spirit far more than any physical disastrophe.  I thought this would be an interesting chance to perhaps share some of my mind with you, or at least those things which have helped to manifest it.... If I might be so bold. This may not at all entirely be a good time to do this, but I would like to share the titles of the books on my bookshelf with you and see if you have read any.  It is lacking in many ways of a variety of types of texts including, I am sad to say, poetry (besides my own), but there is only so much room.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 16, 2007, 03:28:22 pm
Hello, Brother Patrick... I hope you are recovering from whatever circumstances you have recently experienced. Although, in some ways, I fear the collapse of the mind and corruption of the spirit far more than any physical disastrophe.  I thought this would be an interesting chance to perhaps share some of my mind with you, or at least those things which have helped to manifest it.... If I might be so bold. This may not at all entirely be a good time to do this, but I would like to share the titles of the books on my bookshelf with you and see if you have read any.  It is lacking in many ways of a variety of types of texts including, I am sad to say, poetry (besides my own), but there is only so much room.

Daniel!
With your intelligence, you would quickly 'blow me away.'  But you did post something somewhere about LGBT people who have left a LEGACY behind them and I was 'told' that that is ONE of the THINGS that we're here for!

As far as your fears, I can only share what has happened and continues to happen.  My relationship with the Beloved is just awesome!  And I have EXPERIENCED it from Both Sides!   Make a sign for yourself and put in on the bathroom mirror.

Print in large letters:  NO FEAR

Because there just isn't any reason to hang on to any.   Your 'mind and spirit' will continue to evolve forever.   One of the ways our Creator revealed himself reminded me so much of you because of the way he talked.  He talked the way you write.  And he was hilarious!  My next door neighbor that night 'banged on the walls' because I was laughing so hard.   (This was like between 2 and 3 in the morning.)

How can I help you cast away doubt and fear?   So much of what you read will probably be way above me, but, we've got a good library and I could check.   Oh Daniel, if you only could experience what I experienced....   We wouldn't be having this conversation because you would just UNDERSTAND!   Can you imagine communicating with Pure Thought?   There are no words to describe it because it's apples and oranges...


{{Heavenly Hugs}} and Welcome!  I've been hoping you would show up!

br. p

2009 Anniversary note:  Between the dates of August 6th 2007 and August 15th 2007 I was in a state which I have named "TWIXT"  in that I was both experiencing everyday life as well as a 'glimpse' of the afterlife and was able to communicate with God easily.  Since I thought I was about to die, it didn't seem weird at all.  AND I am glad that I remained "TWIXT" from August 12-15, 2007 so I could 'reground' myself to the planet.  You all have no idea how much I miss those intimate conversations with The One Who Is~!  Sometimes, in contemplative prayer I hear God's voice but those are rare and totally unexpected.  This incredible gift started at morning prayers on August 6th 2007, became DIRECT on August 12th when I 'died" and then continued until I said evening prayers on August 15th, 2007.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on September 16, 2007, 04:47:47 pm
I think I can imagine communicating in Pure Thought.... it is like being the Mirror of Infinity, except that you realize eventually that the Mirror is not needed; Infinity just is and always has been, and whether or not it needs to be reflected upon remains to be seen. Is the mind clear? Is the spirit true? Then cast off rejected morbidity when the time comes and break the Mirror, revealing Infinity to itself without reflection.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 17, 2007, 02:52:03 am
I think I can imagine communicating in Pure Thought.... it is like being the Mirror of Infinity, except that you realize eventually that the Mirror is not needed; Infinity just is and always has been, and whether or not it needs to be reflected upon remains to be seen. Is the mind clear? Is the spirit true? Then cast off rejected morbidity when the time comes and break the Mirror, revealing Infinity to itself without reflection.

You're on the right track for sure but it's really difficult to communicate that which IS.  Scripture says somewhere - "'now through a mirror darkly, then face to face'."  Our minds and our 'essences' are not quite the same.  One could call our 'essences' our spirits but that word has so much 'trash' attached to it that I think 'essence' is better.  I was in a place with One who knew me intimately AND loved me completely AND unconditionally.  Our communication was not with words as we know them but with something like a complete 'connection' understood simultaneously.  Again that is a misnomer but I don't have a better 'word' for how one experiences Pure Thought.   Thus, the following Truth would not only be understood, it would be experienced in the 'moment'.

LOVE without FEAR = UNION with the One Who IS!

I didn't have to 'cast off' anything, that was done FOR me.  I think most of that happens during our lives here on this planet.  What remains will be cast off as we enter into the "Everlasting Now."   Infinity is another word with a lot of 'baggage.'  I now understand infinity to be the "Everlasting Now" with all of 'time' available simultaneously because time is a creation as are we.  The most important thing is the 'moment' and every 'moment' that there ever was IS available simultaneously in the "Everlasting Now".  Wow, that sounds like I'm tripping on LSD.   It's just really difficult to get across concepts that I DID understand but NOW don't know of any better way to describe them.  And the irony of similar things is how unimportant is the material that we get so hung up on here on this planet!  I really don't remember most of my questions nor the answers anymore but I remember a LOT of "OF COURSE!" statements because when one looks at 'things, ideas, concepts' from a certain perspective it all becomes so obvious and then - so many things are just ultimately unimportant.

OTOH, the LEGACY that each of us leaves behind is Very Important.   You, Daniel, have a tremendous Legacy!  I was told quite clearly that THIS is the time for powerful TRUTHS to be revealed because the planet now has the best communication that it has ever had and will only get better.   I don't believe for an instant that I am 'alone' in getting these revelations from the One Who Is.   There will be MANY others.


You know what, it was easier to communicate with God!  It's just that I stand in awe of your innate intelligence and don't want to come across as a babbling idiot.   Tell me about your books...  Repost your piece on Legacies, please.

{{hugs}}
br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on September 17, 2007, 10:03:31 am
I have a testament about Brother Patrick's personal prayer I thought I'd share here.  This weekend I was worrying about being put into a position of either lying to my mother or telling her something really upsetting to us both that would have caused her a great deal of worry, pain, and disappointment.  I was really struggling with it.  I kept thinking that this could be one of our last conversations and I didn't want it to be one where I lied to her.  (I haven't lied to Mom since I was a teenager) in addition to lying generally being a bad plan for a many reasons.  On the other hand, I really wanted to spare her the pain this knowledge would have caused.  I couldn't come to a solution - the pros and cons were bouncing off each other in my brain making me feel desperate and insane...so I told myself just do what Patrick might do and tried to let it go.

“Engineer my circumstances, O Lord, according to your Will.”

In the final resolution, the subject just didn't arise.  She was under a misconception I didn't correct, but I did not really get put into a place where I had to decide to lie outright (I know omission still counts, but I'm still so grateful that I didn't cause her pain, at least this time).

This may also be a good illustration of 'Do no pay interest on debts you haven't yet incurred.'
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on September 17, 2007, 11:37:07 am
I don't recall posting anything on Legacies, but perhaps this is what you are referring to.

"If you had one wish, what would it be?"
All too often is this question asked of me.
I have no answer, no swift, easy reply.
But I know a tale of one with such a plight:
One wish to spend, and make it right.
It's mostly false, as true tales are,
but filled with truth, for teaching hearts.

There was a man who thought himself greater than all others.
He sought the truth of his Bible, and of his Christian brothers.
The ways of purity he thought he knew,
His heart was just, his sins were few.
One night he dreamed, as he often did,
Of the angels, on his clean white bed.
One came down to speak with him. Her hair gleaming like fire.
Her skin glowed with the milky light of true holy desire.
She knew the man thought himself holy, and that he had much to learn.
For the truest knowledge evaded him, of heavenly ascension and hellish burn.
But still she took pity on him and offered her trust.
And there he spoke with his holy lust.
He greeted her and cried in her presence.
She smiled, and nodded in acquiescence.
When her musical voice was turned
The man listened scarce alarmed.
"If you had but one wish in all the world,
to where would your heart be hurled?
To a heavenly plane of unearthly beauty,
Or the hellish fires of sinful duty?"
The holy man replied with joy,
His heart leaped up; he danced like a toy
to be given this rare glimpse of divinity.
The angels eyes mirrored all eternity.
She waited for his response.
So he became still in the angelic space,
thought long and hard on this one case.
What could he wish that would bring the Lord's light
upon the Earth in all its sight.
What could he wish that would make the world pure,
and then through its light be the immortal lure.
The grace of the heavens weighed down on his plate.
Did he but realize it, flames lapped at his feet.
And then he thought he had it, a wish to hearts untie.
A wish that would make the world better, and make evil die.

"I wish that no homosexual was ever graced with birth,
that no catamite or sodomite ever walked the planet Earth."

The angel's expression remained serene.
Of all the heavens she could be queen.
"So it is this great sin you would undo.
Granted, but first, let me show something to you."
The angel reached out her light and took the parson's hand.
With glorious wings they quickly flew across a spirit-land.
There stood two doorways, amethyst and ruby.
The holy man wondered what they could be.
"These doors show your destiny,
for even now I will let you free
from the wish which you've just made."
The light in her eyes began to fade.
Fiilled with pride and religious dignity was the holy man's stance.
"I've made the right decision. Let me have my inheritance."

The angel nodded, sullen in sadness' twists.
She turned the parson toward the door of amethyst.
With a wave of her hand, the doorway became
a window of liquid water and flame.
"Then see what travesty your wish invokes
Upon the wheel of common spokes."
The world of fiery darkness which in that window appeared,
was not the one he'd hoped to see, but rather that he'd feared.
"But..... how can this be?"
He asked in baffled mystery.

"No Nazi code ever broken allowed them free entry,
and the world's a much crueler place with no Statue of Liberty.
No Eiffel Tower ever built to represent the people of a nation.
No Sistine Chapel ever painted to bring the soul's elation.
60,000,000 voices call out from the dredges of slavery...
Why is it that you shake, dear sir. Have you no bravery?"

The angel waved her hand across the portal once more.
Its liquid trembled then froze within the door.
The images that flew across its surface haunted the holy man.
He saught to avert his eyes. Sweat down from his forehead ran.
With a firm but gentle grasp, the angel turned him towards
the world that he'd created, giving him his just rewards.

"No Declaration of Independence written to make a man his own.
No Republic ever founded within the streets of Rome.
And who has ever heard good of this Democratic affair?
The Greek state lies in ruins, if ever it was there.

"No Bard of Avon defeated the sword.
No Walden's Pond ever saw word.
Much of poetry is now lost to an uncertain fate.
The poems that helped men make love out of hate.

"No David ever Goliath slew.
No state of Israel made new.
Without the traditions set forth by one Alexander,
the world is left to wonder and meander
through the darkest age it had ever known.
See now, what seeds you've sown?
No Renaissance ever birthed man's souls.
No Philosopher ever stoked the coals
of his own inner being, questioning it freely.
His wonder was found to be unseemly,
when all things were laid out so plain:
the lack of choices already set the game."

The parson stood and looked on in dread.
His heart and soul encased in lead,
he turned to the angel, who waited, eyes covered.
"Let me undo this wish, dear angel, I'll make another."
The angel held her hand aloft.
"Too late, now that your voice is soft,
No other wish can be made.
The stone is set, the piece is played."
She watched him squirm in his misery,
and was herself overcome with pity.
"You can undo this wish and return to your bed.
But tell me, what goes through your head?"
The parson looked up with some relief.
"Oh thank you, dear angel, I'll be brief:

"I swear by the heavens, I'll make up for this harm that I've done.
I wish for all those born with homosexuality to be born with none."

The angel turned away from him, her voice rising with ire.
"I cannot grant your wish, I said. Your offer has expired."
The angel turned back again, her eyes lit with blazing fire.
"And even if I could, do you think it would change desire
or make a better world than the one which you made there?"
The parson shrugged and shook his head.
He wanted nothing more than to be back on his bed.
"What makes you think that all those things that were inspired:
the art, the literature, technology, and spirit's fire,
were not all bound in that very thing, the very same device,
that you would strip from them: their "sin" in your eyes?"

"But the Bible speaks of the men of Sodom-"
"Who lost all reason and sense of wisdom
when blinded by their lust." The angel spoke with seas of flame,
trying desperately not to blame.

"And what of the laws of Leviticus? Should we not hear these as well?"
"They speak of the ritual sexual acts, darkness forbidden in Hell."
The angel sighed and knew that he
was not as spiritual as he seemed.
"Too many times has the Bible been translated, and used for power's sake.
It's hard to follow the rules there, the letters too easily shaked.
Men treat it like a game of Scrabble, and make what laws they will.
Read with your heart, not your eyes. Some are from God, and some evil."

"Did not Christ speak against the very treas-"
"No" her voice thundered with the depths of the seas.
"He never mentioned it, not once, but shook the eon,
when he healed the Beloved of the Centurion."

The angel stepped from his path, the ragged holy man,
Who could find no other argument in his plan.
Crestfallen, pride broken, his spiritual strength
Pushed him from the amethyst, a great length.
He moved with the slowness of some lost soul,
uncertain, and weary, afraid that he'd fall.
She stepped behind him once again and held her hand aloft.
The holy light caressed his back like a feather, warm and soft.
And with the gentlest nudge, she sent,
the parson, now pardoned and bent,
through the ruby portal to his own rest,
where he landed upon his chest,
in the cool, silk sheets of his white, tasseled bed.
He awoke in the darkness and groped at his head.
Looked up in the silent darkness, felt no calm.
He looked at his watch, then lifted his palm.
He stood from the bed and then fed his fish,
Wondering at all that had come from one wish.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 18, 2007, 03:01:12 am
In the final resolution, the subject just didn't arise.  She was under a misconception I didn't correct, but I did not really get put into a place where I had to decide to lie outright (I know omission still counts, but I'm still so grateful that I didn't cause her pain, at least this time).

This may also be a good illustration of 'Do no pay interest on debts you haven't yet incurred.'

Lynne, my dear girl, you have experienced one of the most 'common' manifestations of "The Perfect Prayer" that I know of.  You did right because discernment is needed often and you did just what you needed to do when you needed to do it.  I can't count the times I have Not had to talk about something that I was uncomfortable with because the situation never gave me the chance to do it anyway.  I wouldn't label that 'omission' but DP (Divine Providence!).

Thanks for your input!  Isn't Daniel's post incredible?

{{{LOVE}}}
br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 18, 2007, 03:14:49 am
I don't recall posting anything on Legacies, but perhaps this is what you are referring to.

Daniel!!!
This is EXACTLY what I was talking about when I was told that "the answer has already been posted by Daniel on BetterMost regarding legacies."   What a different world we would live in if it were not for the Legacies of "The People Of The Rainbow" and their Loving Friends!  This beautiful prose doesn't explicitly call it that but I'm sure you would agree that it is most definitely implied.   I think most people are unaware of their Essences.  You are totally in touch with yours or you couldn't have written this feast of words.

{{{Thanks, Love & Blessings from The One Who IS}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 19, 2007, 10:37:03 am
BetterMostians,

I made this .mp3 for "ifyoucantfixit" - Janice, for turning me on to the song...

...but also gift it to you all!  I play a duet with Rufus Wainwright~!  (Hope he doesn't mind)   It's as small as I could make it.

Right-Click and check on Save as...

{{{with all my love}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on September 19, 2007, 08:40:45 pm




          How do I thank you for something so wonderful....That was exquisite.  You are a wonderful musician, and I am very sure he would have loved it...He likes musicians and uses a lot in his show...You would have been a blessing to all...          I am just glad someone loved it as much as i do....I am so thankful you are doing better too.  Continue to heal, and get better....       Friend Janice
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 20, 2007, 12:25:27 am
          How do I thank you for something so wonderful....That was exquisite.  You are a wonderful musician, and I am very sure he would have loved it...He likes musicians and uses a lot in his show...You would have been a blessing to all...          I am just glad someone loved it as much as i do....I am so thankful you are doing better too.  Continue to heal, and get better....       Friend Janice

Janice, if it weren't for you I wouldn't even know that the song existed.  Instead of my usual morning prayers of thanksgiving, I recorded this 'duet' and the "One Who IS' is very pleased!  I Love it to pieces! I wish you the best of health!

If anyone knows where I can legally BUY the song, I would be very grateful!

{}{}{}{}{}{}{} :) {}{}{}{}{}{}{}
br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lumière on September 20, 2007, 12:35:32 am
I am listening to the song now, P!  :D
Awesome!!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 20, 2007, 05:56:26 am
I am listening to the song now, P!  :D
Awesome!!

Sweet lady, now you have the tiniest bit of awareness of that which I receive from your thoroughly Awesome Fan-Art!

~Hugs~

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 20, 2007, 09:09:52 am
Friend, I will soon be posting my experence at the Spiritualist Church in San Francisco, you might find it inneresting.

Hope you are doing well, and tell Polly I said Vaya con huevos.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 20, 2007, 04:58:10 pm
Friend, I will soon be posting my experence at the Spiritualist Church in San Francisco, you might find it inneresting.

Hope you are doing well, and tell Polly I said Vaya con huevos.

I am sure that I will find anything that you write interesting.

LOL about Polly!   huevos = EGGS~!   Maybe you meant Vaya con Dios?  (Actually I think I'll just tell her to GO WITH EGGS!) ROFL    ;D

{{{warm-healing-hugs}}}
br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 20, 2007, 08:32:17 pm
That quote actually come from the end of one of my favorite movies; Nobody's Fool, in which this hasbeen of a lawyer leaves a bar after loosing all but his artificial leg in apoker game he looks at them with distain and says :

"Vaya con huveos, amigos!" and he walks out and they bust out laughing because he has said "Go with eggs, friends"
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 22, 2007, 01:10:30 pm
Friend, I will soon be posting my experence at the Spiritualist Church in San Francisco, you might find it inneresting.

Really enjoyed posting in your thread regarding that which is around us.   Give this thread a plug, you've got a LOT of friends!

{{Peace}}
br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 24, 2007, 03:43:26 am
From Scott's Blog:  Looking for my mojo:

Love is always welcome. It is always appropriate to respond with love to any given situation; it is never inappropriate to respond with love, no matter what the situation may be. As love wears many different faces, it is one of our ongoing challenges to understand what form of love may or may not be fitting for any particular set of circumstances, but sincere love freely given and received is always a blessing and a spiritual attainment of the highest order. This truth has the power to transform our world and ourselves.

This hit me hard and GOOD because of the word circumstances...  It goes well with: Engineer my circumstances, O Lord, according to your Will

{Thanks Scott}   :D    A printed copy is now attached to my computer monitor!

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 24, 2007, 07:51:42 am
It is real interesting to me that in the message you got there is the work Engineer. It seems so specific in a way, likr a train engineer guiding us to our destination, or a civil engineer, setting up the road we must travel on.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 24, 2007, 04:23:29 pm
It is real interesting to me that in the message you got there is the work Engineer. It seems so specific in a way, like a train engineer guiding us to our destination, or a civil engineer, setting up the road we must travel on.

I totally agree.  That word is just loaded with implications and to me represents not only the worker who does the job, but the designer, materials coordinator, and so on.   It's really a perfect word, don't cha think?  That phrase "engineer my circumstances" comes from Oswald Chambers, a theologian - but he never added to me what is obvious - the rest.   But he opened my mind to the countless ways the One Who IS is so intimately involved in the most mundane areas of our lives.   While I didn't always agree with Oswald, I'm used to taking what is good and leaving the rest behind...

{{CyberHugs}}  Had a GREAT chat with Lynne yesterday for hours!

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 24, 2007, 04:28:18 pm
I am so glad you all were able to do that. I am hoping to see her in about a month.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on September 24, 2007, 11:39:09 pm
{{CyberHugs}}  Had a GREAT chat with Lynne yesterday for hours!

It was a terrific way to spend a lazy Saturday morning.  8)

I am so glad you all were able to do that. I am hoping to see her in about a month.

I hope so too, but if not, we'll try for November or the hollydays.  :-*  Wish I could blow off the work stuff and join you for PA.  ;)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 25, 2007, 09:05:28 am
Truman, BetterMostians,

All this talk about 'words' has got me into my dictionary to see all the possibilities, so ...

"Engineer my circumstances, O Lord, according to Your Will"


Engineer:
One who skillfully or shrewdly (marked by keen awareness, sharp intelligence and often practicality; cleverly) manages;  To plan, construct, or manage; To alter or produce by methods;  To plan, to manage, and put through by skillful acts of contrivance; (to plan or devise with cleverness or ingenuity); maneuver (a movement or procedure involving skill and dexterity).

Circumstances:
A condition or fact attending an event and having some bearing on it;  a determining or modifying factor; A condition or fact that determines or must be considered in the determining of a course of action;  the sum of determining factors beyond willful control; Detail accompanying or surrounding an event, as in a narrative or series of events.

Will:
The mental faculty by which one deliberately chooses or decides upon a course of action; volition (the act of an instance of making a conscious choice or decision); A desire, purpose, or determination, especially of one in authority; to decide on; choose; used to indicate requirement or command.


{{{CyberBlessings}}}  :D

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 25, 2007, 09:08:36 am
It was a terrific way to spend a lazy Saturday morning.  8)

Best day that I've had since August 12th.  I / we have missed you so much!   :-*

{{{CyberLove}}}

br. p & all of your friends!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 25, 2007, 12:29:55 pm
I meditate on thse words and what comes to me is that it is involking a positive space in which we can trive and excell, No mater what we belive. I don;t think of God as a bearded guy on a cloud, perhaps good is a good attitude, or a good attitude is a facet of God.

Anyway, I will pray it ever day.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: moremojo on September 25, 2007, 08:44:08 pm
Brother Patrick, I sought peace at a stressful moment in my workday today by thinking silently, "Engineer my circumstances, O Lord, according to Your will." I gave it all over, if only for a moment, to the One Who IS. I also stopped in my tracks for a sec, closed my eyes, and thought to my myself, "Be still, and know that I am God."

We really, truly need never fear. I know I will fear more, because the body is weak and is prone to the spasms of animal feeling, but at least I know on some level that it is not necessary. Everything will work out, everything has been worked out, as it should be. We are only called upon to sit back and watch the show.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 26, 2007, 07:16:43 am
We are only called upon to sit back and watch the show.

Glinda (in The Wizard of Oz): "That's all it is!"

There's NO place like HOMO, o i mean home~!

{{CyberHugs}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 26, 2007, 08:14:26 am
We are only called upon to sit back and watch the show.

And sometimes, we are called to be the star of the show.
And I'll be your biggest fan!  ;)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 26, 2007, 03:21:02 pm
Brother I got to thinking this morning of an example of your prayer in action.

I sell real estate, or try to as the guy in the waiting area would say, and there are times I have seen a transaction get so bogged down in red tape, problems, emotions that it grinds to a halt. We get to be at a total impasse and my clients look to me for advice and the only thing I can tell them is a qualified "give up".

I have found in these situation when everone just gives up, relaxes, the "blockage" as it were dissapates and deal closes. It may not exactly be leaving it in the hands of a higher power, but it is a first cousin to it.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 27, 2007, 01:16:01 am
I have found in these situation when everone just gives up, relaxes, the "blockage" as it were dissapates and deal closes. It may not exactly be leaving it in the hands of a higher power, but it is a first cousin to it.

THIS is a perfect situation for "The Perfect Prayer" because if said before the blockage can occur, it may not occur at all, or occur in a way that is best for you!  Our Higher Power (or the One Who IS) only wants the best for 'his' people and we're special - we're "The People of the Rainbow!"  Can't hurt to try...   Real Estate, huh?  With your talents you probably could sell Ocean front property in Arizona.

{{CyberPeace}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 27, 2007, 08:29:24 am
I hate selling real estate, OMG, people think what they have is worth a million dollars but if they were buying it from someone else they wouldn;t give you 2 cents. And selling or buying such a large asset is fraught with concern and worries and you have to listen to all that, and when peoples minds get caught up in things like that they go to strange places. Wanting to bail out of a contract because of a crack in the driveway, I have heard it all.

Mostly I do property management. As an example of that I got a call from an apartment owner yesterday upset over a tenant having a couch sittling outside on the landing. A reasonable concern, it don;t look good, but I heard him the first fo four times he told me. I called the guy and took care of it. Baby sitting, thats all it is. You gotta be patient. Gotta let go of it or it will drive you nutz.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 27, 2007, 09:21:29 am
Okay but where I am conflicted brother is we I reach a point in life I feel I HAVE to do something, I don't find myself willing to surrender to a higher power, maybe to ask the higher power for the strenght to do what  I  feel needs to be done.  Like St Francis's pray "Courage to change the things I can..." How does this new prayer work in such a situation?
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: loneleeb3 on September 27, 2007, 02:30:52 pm
Quote
"Engineer my circumstances, O Lord, according to Your Will"
You know to me thats scary!
You never know what God might have planned for you. Look what happened to Moses! He goes up on the mountain and then nest thing ya know hes wanderin areound in the desert withthe Children of Israel! LOL
Maybe it's just were I am in life right now but the thought of letting go scares me.
I need to though, I feel like one of them Chinese plate spinnners with all them plates going at the same time!
It's eshausting!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 28, 2007, 04:30:41 am
Gotta let go of it or it will drive you nutz.

I'm really glad that you have found the solution to deal with the NUTZ!  Must be hard having so many people 'depending' on you.   Hang in there, friend!

{{CyberHugs}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 29, 2007, 02:40:14 am
Okay but where I am conflicted brother is we I reach a point in life I feel I HAVE to do something, I don't find myself willing to surrender to a higher power, maybe to ask the higher power for the strength to do what I  feel needs to be done.  Like St Francis's pray "Courage to change the things I can..." How does this new prayer work in such a situation?

I can understand your inner turmoil because we all "have" to do things we would rather not do.  To me, having a higher power HELPING makes it as easy as possible.  It's also understandable not to be willing to surrender one's will.  I've been there and done that.  In fact, I used to be at the extreme opposite and would utter "As I will, so mote it be." ('mote' is an archaic way of saying 'may' or 'might')  I learned this in High School from books on Witchcraft.  And with the help of an 'entity' some times it actually worked.  But I've told you how I was screwed over by an 'unfriendly entity' so I did a 180 degree turnaround over the next few years at that time in my life.  I WANTED to depend on SOMEONE/THING to tell me what to DO!  That's what eventually led me to "Thy Will Be Done" and then "The Perfect Prayer" because "Thy Will Be Done" is just too vague.  I can't really imagine living any other way, now.

So in a situation in which you feel you have to do something just do it.  "Courage to change the things I can" is a good prayer too.  (It's the 12 Step Prayer) but even there you are asking for a higher power's WISDOM.  And that is a good thing.   "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

You have asked a really good question and I want to give you a reply from the One Who IS.  SO, what makes you 'unwilling' to surrender your will, if only for a moment?  Do you think that it would not be the Will of a higher power for you to do this 'thing' you feel you HAVE to do?  Talk to me, you've got a really good point here!

{{CyberHugs}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 29, 2007, 03:04:28 am
"Engineer my circumstances, O Lord, according to your Will"
You know to me thats scary!
You never know what God might have planned for you. Look what happened to Moses! He goes up on the mountain and then nest thing ya know hes wanderin areound in the desert withthe Children of Israel! LOL
Maybe it's just where I am in life right now but the thought of letting go scares me.
I need to though, I feel like one of them Chinese plate spinnners with all them plates going at the same time!
It's eshausting!

The thing about Moses makes me laugh.  One of the things that I STILL remember in my talks with the One Who IS, back in August, is that "he" told me that "he" was much YOUNGER when he made the dinosaurs!  That cracked me up but - if we ARE , made in "his" image, then it would be normal to grow in intellect and wisdom.  From what I now KNOW, "he" has 'grown up' and would never do now what was written about the Israelites 40 year trek.  Moses supposedly wrote the book in the bible about that.  Maybe if HE would have prayed "The Perfect Prayer" he could have reached the promised land in a few weeks!  God also scared the sh*t out of Moses.   Back in August, when we talked, it was Lover to beloved!  Although, I did hear "Well done, my good and faithful servant" with a 'sound' that could have SHOOK a mountain - but it was said so lovingly!

If I were you I would re-read the first message in this thread about the Covenant he has made with LGBT people and their loving friends.  I certainly can remember times in my life before I 'let go' that really could have turned out much worse.   The One Who IS helps us in any case, whether we know or not!

You have asked a question similar to Truman's.   What is it about 'letting go' that scares you?   I really want to know because I am clueless without knowing this.  For me it was simple because I WANTED someone to run my life who knew what was best for me.   Tell, tell!

{{Cyber-clueless-hugs}} :-\

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 30, 2007, 12:29:55 pm
I think I am fearful because what I might want for my life the higher power might not want, might have some reason for me to stay in a place I no longer care or want to be in.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: loneleeb3 on September 30, 2007, 02:45:24 pm
I don't even know if I can articulate it.
i guess it comes form having no faith in myself.
I'm afraid he'll put me in circumstances that I don't want to be in or don't think I can handle.
I know he tells us in Jeremiah 29:11
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.

I guess I have trust issues. I just don't know how to let go.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on October 01, 2007, 02:11:20 am
Hello again, Brother Patrick. I was still alert to the endless possibilities of Legacies, and I remembered that I had written you a PM in response to the film Loggerheads which might have made some mention of it.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on October 01, 2007, 02:25:34 am
I guess I have trust issues. I just don't know how to let go.


Whew! I thought this was going to be a really tough one.   But you have raised one of the most simplest of answers.  FAITH!  Just ask and you'll have it.  It's FREE and always given.   I should have picked up on that from your comments.  DUH!  Faith gives you the Trust that allows you to let go!   It's really simple.   And no strings or anything like that!  The One Who IS LOVES giving this gift!  Just to be certain that I am relaying proper information, one would ask for Faith IN the One Who IS.  'He' will take it from there.   It's as easy as breathing!  Then you just relax!

{{CyberHugs}}

br. p  ;)

PS, Realize that this is the ONE who created your essence; the YOU in you...  'He' made the person we have come to know and love.   Your genetics may have been a "gleam in your father's eye" and the "egg" that your mother was born with.   That gave you your appearance, talents, gifts, creativity...   But the YOU in you came from the ESSENSE of the One Who IS.  Your ESSENCE is unique and precious and Loved; "a thing marvelous to behold".   Isn't that just awesome?
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on October 01, 2007, 05:11:35 am
I think I am fearful because what I might want for my life the higher power might not want, might have some reason for me to stay in a place I no longer care or want to be in.

Believe me, I can't even imagine the possibility of that happening.  'He' KNOWS what is best for us and is not out to 'get us' so what you already feel is most likely exactly what you will continue to feel.  Remember the Covenant to "The People of the Rainbow" and realize that 'he' has been on your side all along.   If things change then it will be for the best.

Don't want to get "all holy on your ass  (Latter Days)" but one of my favorite scripture quotes is Romans 8:28 because I was given a really cool melody for the words:  "God makes all things work together, for the sake of those who have been called, according to 'his' decree."

I now understand "according to 'his' decree" to BE the Covenant he has made with us~!

Join Daniel and make a big sign for your mirror:  NO FEAR

{{CyberHugs}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on October 01, 2007, 06:04:40 am
Hello again, Brother Patrick. I was still alert to the endless possibilities of Legacies, and I remembered that I had written you a PM in response to the film Loggerheads which might have made some mention of it.

Hi Daniel!

I just purged my PM's a few days ago and saved everything to a Word Doc that I wanted to keep.  There is nothing there referring to Loggerheads and Legacies.  If it was from you I probably kept it somewhere.   Now, I just have to find it.   ::)

I have posted that "I told a friend who shared time with me on August 12th that Bettermost Sage, Daniel, has posted the answer here already concerning our Legacies."   I am glad that you agree that your prose perfectly addresses the topic!

The Beautiful Words that you posted were exactly what I thought of when I 'heard' about it back in August.  I think that it was NEAT (and Divine Providence) that you "accidentally" posted it in my thread about "No More Gay Bashing in 2007+"  If you would consider it, more prose describing the Fact of our Legacies would be GREAT!  But you've already done it for posterity.

{{CyberHugs}}  :D

br. p

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on October 04, 2007, 02:31:37 am
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Be Still My Soul

Be still my soul - the Lord is on thy side;
bear patiently the cross of grief or pain;
leave to thy God to order and provide;
in every change - he faithful will remain.
Be still, my soul - thy best thy heavenly Friend
through thorny ways leads to a joyful end.

Be still my soul - when dearest friends depart,
and all is darkened in the vale of tears,
then shalt thou better know his love - his heart,
who comes to soothe thy sorrow and thy fears.
Be still, my soul - the waves and winds still know
his voice who ruled them - while he dwelt below.

Be still my soul the hour is hastening on
when we shall be forever with the Lord,
when disappointment - grief and fear are gone,
sorrow forgot - love's purest joys restored,.
Be still my soul - when change and tears are past,
all safe and blessed - we shall meet at last.

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: loneleeb3 on October 04, 2007, 08:39:45 am
[youtube=425,350]omlBeCGLFG4[/youtube]

Be Still My Soul

Be still my soul - the Lord is on thy side;
bear patiently the cross of grief or pain;
leave to thy God to order and provide;
in every change - he faithful will remain.
Be still, my soul - thy best thy heavenly Friend
through thorny ways leads to a joyful end.

Be still my soul - when dearest friends depart,
and all is darkened in the vale of tears,
then shalt thou better know his love - his heart,
who comes to soothe thy sorrow and thy fears.
Be still, my soul - the waves and winds still know
his voice who ruled them - while he dwelt below.

Be still my soul the hour is hastening on
when we shall be forever with the Lord,
when disappointment - grief and fear are gone,
sorrow forgot - love's purest joys restored,.
Be still my soul - when change and tears are past,
all safe and blessed - we shall meet at last.
Wow!
That was beautiful!
I needed that this moring!
Thanks
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on October 06, 2007, 05:19:29 am
Be Still My Soul

Be still my soul - the Lord is on thy side;
bear patiently the cross of grief or pain;
leave to thy God to order and provide;
in every change - he faithful will remain.
Be still, my soul - thy best thy heavenly Friend
through thorny ways leads to a joyful end.

Be still my soul - when dearest friends depart,
and all is darkened in the vale of tears,
then shalt thou better know his love - his heart,
who comes to soothe thy sorrow and thy fears.
Be still, my soul - the waves and winds still know
his voice who ruled them - while he dwelt below.

Be still my soul the hour is hastening on
when we shall be forever with the Lord,
when disappointment - grief and fear are gone,
sorrow forgot - love's purest joys restored,.
Be still my soul - when change and tears are past,
all safe and blessed - we shall meet at last.


A Superb way to describe the fact that I've had two 'TWIXT' experiences lately.  One while laughing to a great joke on "Queer As Folk" on LOGO and the other one in prayer.   When I'm 'TWIXT' I can talk to the One Who IS directly and distinctly "hear" his responses.   I have been going through real Spiritual Withdrawal after having experienced both sides so intensely back in August.  Now I know that I'm still close to 'the other side...'  REAL CLOSE!   And that is incredible!  (If those kids were wearing black they would look like monks!)

{{Cyberhugs}}     ;D

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on October 06, 2007, 11:08:39 am
In your next TWIXT moment, can you please ask He Who Is what I'm supposed to be doing with my life? Sometimes its not as clear as I want it to be...
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on October 06, 2007, 05:25:31 pm
In your next TWIXT moment, can you please ask He Who Is what I'm supposed to be doing with my life? Sometimes its not as clear as I want it to be...
I'm being told as I type that you already know the answer.  Sometimes it takes a "leap of faith" to make changes.  But whatever you end up (or begin) doing, you will do very well, indeed.

You're very special, Daniel, meditate or pray or get in touch with the One Who IS and commit to "The Perfect Prayer."   The pieces will fall into place and you will SEE THIS HAPPENING!

{{Cyberhugs}}  and THANKS for letting me act as a 'go between' - it's a rare honor.  ::)

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on October 06, 2007, 05:50:55 pm
Sigh... thats what everyone always says. I know the answer. I don't really... I have a vision, yes, but I don't know how to get from here to there.... There are some days when I get up and I want to write, other days when I get up with my mind filled with jewelry or apparel designs; other days when new recipes or music ideas are there... its all very confusing, sometimes, and when I start to go in one direction, I rapidly get sidetracked by something else that I'm experiencing.

I believe wholeheartedly that the spiritual communion we have created and are in the process of creating in our spiritual reality is a part of who we are... but there are days when it is very difficult to see the connections between them. I will continue to pray the Perfect Prayer, though, and apply its philosophy in my life.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on October 06, 2007, 06:13:27 pm
Sigh... thats what everyone always says. I know the answer. I don't really... I have a vision, yes, but I don't know how to get from here to there....

When "The One Who IS" says something to me I believe it.  It's your intelligence that confuses you.  You have so many gifts in so many areas.  The philosophy of "The Perfect Prayer" WILL show you AND YOU WILL EXPERIENCE IT HAPPENING!

Lift up your heart - past your brain and into the Divine Consciousness.  You're very well known, I assure you!  I will try and get some help for you in this.  I have been able to do things that I wasn't able to do before!  I just accept it and go with it.

{{Cyberhugs}} :)

br. p
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Post by: fritzkep on October 06, 2007, 10:39:17 pm
Thank you very much for this thread. I was trying to access the video a few posts back, and apparently it is blocked from viewing as an embedded video, but can be accessed through this link.



A beautiful hymn of peace, indeed.

I just discovered this thread today.

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on October 07, 2007, 01:06:35 am
Sometimes the videos work in the thread, sometimes they don't.... I think it depends on how many people are accessing it at the time.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on October 07, 2007, 01:50:49 am
I have been thinking about the Perfect Prayer, Brother Patrick, and it rings familiar with me. I believe there was something similar to this idea in Beauty, the Invisible Embrace. Let me see if I can find it.

Quote

To participate in beauty is to come into the presence of the Holy. It is we who exile ourselves from God. Everything we feel, think and do is already happening within the divine shelter. To know this is to know one's real beauty.
     Though the human mind is intense with difference and variety it is shadowed by divisions and imbalance. God is pure verb, a permanent event, an eternal surge, a total quickening. Beauty's diversity only deepens the flow of God's presence; nothing is held back. This sense of lyrical presence is expressed vividly by the sixteenth-century mystical poet Angelus Silesius. He put many of Meister Eckhart's insights into poetic form. His little poem 'The Rose' captures the grace and simplicity of pure presence and integrity.

The Rose is without why
She blooms because she blooms
She does not care for herself
Asks not if she is seen.

The poem is also a huge vindication of identity, the freedom and clarity of simply being yourself. Nothing else is needed. It is a poem of profound trust in the act of being. This makes for a pure clearance. There is no outside intrusion, no pressure to measure up to outside expectations. Nor is there any sense of inner division. The rose is content to be a rose: she is what she is. At another level the poem can be read as a hymn to the freedom of nature, how it avoids the oppresive clutter of intentionality and concept. And the rose is flourishing; she is at one with herself in the grace of growth. Nature as a whole performs for no man. How vastly different this is to the way we live our lives.
     Sometimes the urgency of our hunger blinds us to the fact that we are already at the feast. To accept this can change everything: we are always home, never exiled. Although our minds constantly insist on seeing walls of separation, in reality most of the walls are mere veils. In every moment, everywhere, we are not even inches away from the divine presence.
     Spirituality has to do with the transfiguration at distance, to come near to ourselves, to beauty and to God. At the heart of spirituality is the awakening of real presence. You cannot produce or force presence. When you are truly present, you are there as you are: image and pretension are left aside. Real presence is natural. Perhaps the secret of spiritual integrity has to do with an act of acceptance, namely, a recognition that you are always already within the divine embrace.
     Rather than trying to set out like some isolated cosmonaut in search of God, maybe the secret is to let God find you. Instead of endeavouring to reach out in order to first find God, you realize you are now within the matrix and the adventure is the discovering of utterly new and unspoken dimensions of the inexhaustible divine; this brings with it a new sense of ease with your self and your solitude.*** John Keats wrote rapturously about this: 'Though the most beautiful Creature were waiting for me at the end of a Journey or Walk, though the carpet were of Silk, the Curtains of the morning clouds; the chairs and Sofa stuffed with Cygnet's down, I should not feel - or rather Happiness would not be so fine as my Solitude is sublime. Then instead of what I have described, there is sublimity to welcome me home' (Letter to G. and G. Keats, Oct 1818).


*** I thought I would point out that this is a very similar experience to finally accepting your own personal diversity; your differences from others. When you can accept that you are not exactly like other human beings, and that it is not only alright but wonderful, then you do acquire this sense of ease with self and solitude.

Now I realize that most of this is in fact more philosophical, in the conception of beauty and life and the divine; but is it not the same principles as made clear in the Perfect Prayer? 

Engineer my circumstances, Lord, according to your will.

Does this prayer not suggest that we live in an infinite beingness that is defined by divinely engineered circumstances, and that it is ultimately our own will, our decision to remain independent and outside the divine force, that prevents this great and noble divinity to take place. Also, I think some who would be eager to reject a God-hallucination out of hand as a religion-sponsored myth might have great difficulty with allowing a personal deity to command their lives. They would fear allowing another to engineer their own lives, in preference of maintaining their own securities. When we can embrace the fact that the One That Is is the penultimate experience of life, thought, feeling, and emotion, when we can acknowledge that body, mind, heart, soul, and spirit are transient and intransient shadows of the One That Is, it is as though a fleece were being pulled from our eyes. The great experiences of life are tied up into one being, and that being is the One That Is. When we can yield our cognitive illusions and eager separations, and simply allow this great experience to take over us and direct our being, we are in fact embracing the Immensity that is ourselves, but more than ourselves.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on October 07, 2007, 03:40:37 am
I have been thinking about the Perfect Prayer, Brother Patrick, and it rings familiar with me. I believe there was something similar to this idea in Beauty, the Invisible Embrace. Let me see if I can find it.

*** I thought I would point out that this is a very similar experience to finally accepting your own personal diversity; your differences from others. When you can accept that you are not exactly like other human beings, and that it is not only alright but wonderful, then you do acquire this sense of ease with self and solitude.

Now I realize that most of this is in fact more philosophical, in the conception of beauty and life and the divine; but is it not the same principles as made clear in the Perfect Prayer? 

Engineer my circumstances, Lord, according to your will.

Does this prayer not suggest that we live in an infinite beingness that is defined by divinely engineered circumstances, and that it is ultimately our own will, our decision to remain independent and outside the divine force, that prevents this great and noble divinity to take place. Also, I think some who would be eager to reject a God-hallucination out of hand as a religion-sponsored myth might have great difficulty with allowing a personal deity to command their lives. They would fear allowing another to engineer their own lives, in preference of maintaining their own securities. When we can embrace the fact that the One That Is is the penultimate experience of life, thought, feeling, and emotion, when we can acknowledge that body, mind, heart, soul, and spirit are transient and intransient shadows of the One That Is, it is as though a fleece were being pulled from our eyes. The great experiences of life are tied up into one being, and that being is the One That Is. When we can yield our cognitive illusions and eager separations, and simply allow this great experience to take over us and direct our being, we are in fact embracing the Immensity that is ourselves, but more than ourselves.

Yes, Yes, YES!

Just to add an important point; One finds the One Who Is in the MOMENT!  'He' is not "out there" somewhere, 'he' IS reality and really knows what is best for each of us.  All it takes is acceptance of this fact.  RELIGION has taught us to FEAR the Divine but Spirituality knows the reality: Perfect Love Casts Out All Fear.  How to get perfect love?  Ask!  So much is available just by simply asking for it and accepting it even if we don't feel different.  Reality is the manifestation of the One Who IS and to align ourselves with this makes life ever so much easier.


Your writing is awesome, as usual..   :)

{{Cyberhugs}}

br. p
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Post by: ifyoucantfixit on October 07, 2007, 12:26:05 pm




         just here to say howdy..How ya doin..?
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on October 07, 2007, 12:42:34 pm
                                 Engineer my circumstances, Lord, according to your will.

It kindley grows on you. It is not like saying "make me do the right thing" more like "knowing me I am gonna do what I want, so please have some good options available for me to choose from."

That Daniel, he is talented, he phenomenal.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on October 08, 2007, 06:23:31 am
         just here to say howdy..How ya doin..?

{{{{Janice}}}}

I'm better than I was knowing that you care!  Hope you are well too.   Keep me updated on that.  AND thank you SO MUCH for Hallelujah!  I can't stop playing it.

   (Tell ya what, truth be told, I play "with myself" all the time~!)

 ;D

{{Cyberhugs}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on October 08, 2007, 06:29:05 am
                                 Engineer my circumstances, Lord, according to your will.

It kindley grows on you. It is not like saying "make me do the right thing" more like "knowing me I am gonna do what I want, so please have some good options available for me to choose from."

That Daniel, he is talented, he phenomenal.

I'm glad to have planted the seed~!  You've made a good point but if you feel a 'blockage' in an option or two, DON'T choose them.  I know...  DUH!

Daniel blows my mind!  :P

{{Cyberhugs}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: injest on October 08, 2007, 08:01:09 am
{{{{Janice}}}}

I'm better than I was knowing that you care!  Hope you are well too.   Keep me updated on that.  AND thank you SO MUCH for Hallelujah!  I can't stop playing it.

   (Tell ya what, truth be told, I play "with myself" all the time~!)

 ;D

{{Cyberhugs}}

br. p

 :o :o

Br Patrick!!

 :-X :-X





 ;)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on October 08, 2007, 08:59:06 am
BetterMostians!

Before I get myself REALLY in trouble, let me gift you with a laugh or two...

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: loneleeb3 on October 08, 2007, 09:01:25 am
BetterMostians!

Before I get myself REALLY in trouble, let me gift you with a laugh or two...


ROFLMAO!
That was funny! :laugh:
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on October 08, 2007, 02:08:23 pm



         You guys are incorrigable.   :o        But where is Scott and Jeff?  This is right up their alley.

                                                     :laugh: :laugh:

                   
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on October 08, 2007, 03:19:11 pm

br. p uttered innocently enough (Tell ya what, truth be told, I play "with myself" all the time~!)
 :o :o
 

Br Patrick!!

 :-X :-X

 ;)

I MEANT on the keyboard...  and when I pee and when I wash... and when I ...

OOPS (Where's that damn delete key?)  
 
;) back atcha!

{{Cyberhugs}}

br. p

PS: If the One Who IS didn't expect us to pleasure ourselves he would have placed our genitals in the middle of the back or somewhere else unreachable.   'He' made the sex drive so powerful, who can resist?
 
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on October 08, 2007, 09:37:26 pm



        You funny.....         :laugh:
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on October 09, 2007, 02:09:50 am
        You funny.....         :laugh:

         You are sweet!   8)

{{Cyberhugs}}

br. p

PS: I'm listening to my duet with Rufus as I type this.  Thank you SO much for this precious gift of music~!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on October 11, 2007, 01:42:41 am
Well I have been tossing and turning in my bed for about an hour and a half, now.... but I think its a good thing. I actually have a slightly stronger perception of where my life is going right now... and I think I have the perfect prayer to thank for it.

I was laying in bed and I remembered to pray the prayer. I got it wrong the first time, saying Lord, Engineer my circumstances according to your will.  After a few minutes of laying in the dark, I realized this, and prayed it again, Engineer my circumstances, Lord, according to your will.  But for some reason, I have a feeling that I am supposed to be moving on with my life... it's burning brilliantly within me, though I have no idea of what or how to move on, and what's more is that I have an immense fear that somewhere along the way I made some wrong turns and it will take a large amound of backtracking to get where I'm supposed to be. So I prayed the prayer one more time... Engineer my circumstances, Lord, according to your will, but please - do it quickly.

I lay there in bed for the longest time thinking and really just trying to get to sleep. But something was keeping me awake. I hadn't finished for the day... and then I started remembering things..... the few times in my life that I have been genuinely happy or truly felt exalted. I remembered back to my early adolescence when I participated in the afterschool drama club at the private academy I went to. Telling stories with puppets, using strange props and devices....  I remembered some few times I had played "Wizards and warriors" with my younger brother in the back yard, and even to the few fun moments when I had ruled one half of a playground with an army of younger children ready to do my bidding. Of course, I was always the wizard... the wise one who remained in the turret, who knew the secret paths of the forest, who could appear and disappear at a moment's notice... I'm not sure why those moments stuck with me, but they struck me full blast tonight as I remembered them..... then I recalled the few years of my childhood when I was into magic tricks, the illusion and the reality in conflict with one another was fascinating to me... And when I could perform a trick and felt a little bit of awe from my familial audience, you probably would not have seen a larger grin on a teenager's face.

And then I recalled my years in Middle School.... not in classes, so much.... as on stage. Every day was a new adventure into the psyche and emotional experience of humanity. Who or what would I be in the next performance? An animal? A woman? A wall?   What strange and miraculous emotion would I be able to dredge up from I know not where? Anger? Hatred? An insane and jealous fear? The end of my 9th grade education, we put on a play known as "Hello, Shakespeare" in which I played several parts.... It was a fascinating and thrilling experience... after which I quickly obtained the nickname "Shakespeare". For a year afterwards, I really felt like I had direction in my life. I received numerous congratulations on my performances, my ability to project (which strangely enough I had difficulty with at first), and in later years my musical talent, though I know not where that idea originated. I still think my singing is rustic at best and I still lack the ability to read staff on cue.  (But give me a piano and I can pluck it out... lol).

Unfortunately, it was shortly after these performances that I was forced to move with my family when my father lost his job, and I was thrust (once again) into a strange environment. One far less friendly than my previous encounter. I was, regrettably, or perhaps not so, different from just about anyone here. So I was forced to create a dramatis personae, although perhaps on hindsight that was not the right thing to do, in order to be accepted and fit in. The Junior and Senior years in high school can be hell, particularly if you don't fit in with any of the pre-existing niches.... I didn't know anyone, and the educational system was different enough from my old one to throw me into some confusion about what the hell was going on.  But I soon joined Latin Club and the National Honor Society, though I think I can remember pining after the stage once again.  My literature courses were taught by football coaches, for the most part.... and I am sorry to say that the football coaches are not very good at teaching literature, history, or social sciences (even if some of them were good looking).  My Senior year in high school I did what I could, but pressures from home were bad enough. My father insisted that I take Calculus before I got into college. So by necessity I had to take trigonometry, analytical geometry, and calculus. Courses that weren't required for me to graduate, but which my father required of me. Needless to say, I had no time in those two years to pursue acting or performance from an educational standpoint, and no opportunities at all to pursue it from an extracurricular standpoint.  At the time I do not remember it being a terrible experience, but now that I can look back at that experience from 10 years down the road from it, I can remember it as hellish experience. Latin, of course, saved me a little bit. Oratory and Poetry brought back some of that thrill that I missed so much, but perhaps not enough of it. I sometimes broke out into song for no apparent reason (and still do in the privacy of my own home)... which prompted several people to ask me if I sang in church. I'm still not certain what they were referring to, but I learned to quiet it down, unless I'm outside or driving somewhere or something.... Okay that's weird I know, but still I think its important.  In Latin Club I translated six books of the Aeneid, and found myself fascinated by the rhythm of the work. It was something made to be read out loud, and it was beautiful. "Arma virumque cano, Troiae qui primus ab oris..."  I wrote a play about Orpheus and Eurydice which won the entire school Latin Competition team third place at the state competition and a paid trip to Nationals, where I earned second place in oratory, fifth in poetry, and a few other awards that I forget right now... but I can still recall some exciting moments from that trip to Nationals where I was at the peak of my experience in the thrill of a performance in a play, skit, or scene that seemed memorable and important.  Of course, I couldn't keep from remembering the few performances in my Senior year I was able to make... from the readings of Hamlet and Twelfth Night, and of course The Crucible in my Junior Year.  My God, now that I think of it, I'm remembering going to the Library and reading just about every play I could get my hands on. I lived performances through secondhand experience if I couldn't perform it myself.

I wonder now, what I feared that prevented me from going after what I really wanted all those years ago.... the fear of non-acceptance? The tragedy of refusal and denial. In the few years after my graduation from high school, I continued to live performance secondhand... I went with my family to see the musical about the Riverboat Theatre whose title I can't remember right now. I relished the comical live performance of "Tuna, Texas", and my ears perked up whenever the radio mentioned a performance of play, musical, or opera.  But academically, it seemed like I had another life to live. I pursued a different approach, I learned to write. No, not the long, brambling thing that you see here.... Papers that discussed nearly every aspect of humanity I could get my hands on... cultural differences, antidisestablishmentarianism, violence as a form of social repression, the frenzy of media, the lack of resources or knowledge in the public education system, the mythic connection between landscape and society, religious identity and the conception of self, ritual drug use in nonstandard forms.... but as much as I enjoyed exploring these ideas, researching them, and representing them on paper.... I think I now realize what I was actually doing. Most people that I shared my papers with found it very strange that I write almost exactly as I speak. Apparently, its supposed to be different. Oops.

But now that I can look back at my papers with that knowledge in hand... what was I doing? Performing on paper. Everything I wrote was for the entertainment, education, and enjoyment of the target audience. In fact, my favorite questions about my papers to my professors were not "Was that accurate?" but "Did you enjoy it?" That is incredibly bizarre...... but if you consider that I was performing on paper, writing my own script as I went along, letting it flow and bounce with irony and little surprises in every corner, but nothing dangerous.... I had never thought that that was what I was doing, until just right now... or a few moments ago, or whatever.  I also enjoyed the few presentations I made that I was really prepared for. It sucks not being prepared for it, but if you know what you are going to say it can be a dream.  Once again, performance......

In college I almost tried out for a part in a play, but I think something in my subconscious wanted to prevent me from doing it... I got sick the day I was supposed to audition.

Let us zoom to the present, I mentioned recipes, jewelry and clothing designs, fragrance, and musical creations. Not to mention writing of fiction and poetry. I write fiction to be read or mentally performed. I write poetry to be spoken. That is really the best way to enjoy the rhythm and linguistic sounds of different words in the poems I write. I create recipes to be tasted. I create jewelry and clothing designs to be seen and worn. I create fragrances to be smelled, and musical creations to be heard. Everything that I feel even a slight drawing to do is somehow tied up in an aesthetic experience... one which I want to direct and control to illicit response, for this is what art is... something that illicits a response.

Now that I am seeing this way... now that I am remembering the thrill of the stage, and wonder what the hell I've done to myself the past ten years of my life, I am really afraid... I don't know how to get back into that experience, don't know if I even have the skills to do so... just a great desire. And I don't know if anyone will want me once I get there, or if I will be able to make one damn bit of difference in those experiences.  So I'm stuck... or so it seems.  I will continue to pray the perfect prayer... but I think I might need others to pray for me too.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on October 11, 2007, 02:08:10 am
...Let us zoom to the present, I mentioned recipes, jewelry and clothing designs, fragrance, and musical creations. Not to mention writing of fiction and poetry. I write fiction to be read or mentally performed. I write poetry to be spoken. That is really the best way to enjoy the rhythm and linguistic sounds of different words in the poems I write. I create recipes to be tasted. I create jewelry and clothing designs to be seen and worn. I create fragrances to be smelled, and musical creations to be heard. Everything that I feel even a slight drawing to do is somehow tied up in an aesthetic experience... one which I want to direct and control to illicit response, for this is what art is... something that illicits a response.

Now that I am seeing this way... now that I am remembering the thrill of the stage, and wonder what the hell I've done to myself the past ten years of my life, I am really afraid... I don't know how to get back into that experience, don't know if I even have the skills to do so... just a great desire. And I don't know if anyone will want me once I get there, or if I will be able to make one damn bit of difference in those experiences.  So I'm stuck... or so it seems.  I will continue to pray the perfect prayer... but I think I might need others to pray for me too.

You got it, Friend, without even needing to ask.

BUT everything you wrote makes perfect sense to me in the context of my understanding to date of who you are.  So, being the action-oriented type, can you find a community theater there?  Even Tullahoma, TN had one that turned out quite respectable work - open auditions held frequently, probably 8 productions a year.  If they don't cast you immediately, I'm sure they're always looking for labor for sets and props and lights and I don't know what all else.  It would be a terrific way to get to know people in the local theater community and make connections.  And a terrific way to meet people who may be more in tune with you than you're finding elsewhere.

Another idea - high school or community college drama departments.  They would probably welcome someone passionate enough to volunteer to help with their annual productions and I'm sure you're qualified in many capacities.  Mostly all I think it takes is the interest or passion to actually show up and DO.

I'm very excited about this!  Who knows where it can lead?!  An epiphany indeed!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on October 11, 2007, 02:16:26 am
There is a little music and performance tutoring place over in the shopping center right behind our apartments, so I'm thinking of taking some voice and diction classes, if nothing else just to experience the thrill of speaking with an eager audience, and somehow bettering myself that way.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on October 11, 2007, 02:23:27 am

 
      It seems to  me David you are in the same boat as so many here..The only differnece is you
are after a different goal..
      The way I see it may seem simplified to you.  But its just how I see it...The only way out is through...You have to start doing the thing.  You will then find out if you have an audience of interest.  It probably will seem scary at first.  But highly gratifying if you succeed.  whatever
happens.  You should feel all right..because you enjoy what you are doing.. So how can you
really lose?
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on October 11, 2007, 02:31:41 am
There is a little music and performance tutoring place over in the shopping center right behind our apartments, so I'm thinking of taking some voice and diction classes, if nothing else just to experience the thrill of speaking with an eager audience, and somehow bettering myself that way.

That's a terrific idea, Daniel!  I'm a big believer in education.  Whenever it's been possible for me, I've been enrolled in a class of some sort - frequently nothing to do with my 'work'.  (For instance, I've taken Drawing 101 3 times and still am dismal.)  Maybe that makes me a geek, but there's something about being in a classroom that (I believe) keeps your mind active.  It's so easy to get into a rut in the workplace.  After you become competent at your job, it frequently becomes rote and that is very bad IMO - it makes us stagnant and uninteresting.

I was so introverted and self-conscious in high school - I participated in the annual musicals (almost expected), but always as extra or support.  I wonder how my today self would handle it, sometimes?  I have so much more appreciation for the technical aspects of performance - I just didn't understand it during those horrible teenage years.  I know that public speaking back then was akin to torture, but now doesn't bother me at all.
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Post by: Daniel on October 11, 2007, 02:35:35 am
I think a lot of what might have happened in these past 10 years is undue pressure from my parents. Being the firstborn, I suppose I'm supposed to live up to all the expectations they have of me. I think they saw my interest in acting more as a childish play thing, so they discouraged me from pursuing it later on because they didn't realize it was so important to me. Being the firstborn, I was afraid to tell them how important it was to me. I was afraid to do a lot of things with my parents for myself, so often sacrificed what I wanted for what I thought was the greater good.

Thank you for your support, Lynne. Since we've actually met in person, and had a chance to talk for a bit, the fact that you can recognize what I'm talking about means the world to me. It just fits... somehow.  And I'm starting to feel ashamed that I didn't go after my dreams when I had the chance, even if I thought I was doing the right thing at the time....
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Post by: Daniel on October 11, 2007, 02:41:46 am
Ah well, I have to get up in three hours, so might as well try to get some sleep... :)
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Post by: Lynne on October 11, 2007, 03:06:51 am
You're right about bedtime, bud - get some sleep.  I'm almost ready myself.

I think a lot of what might have happened in these past 10 years is undue pressure from my parents. Being the firstborn, I suppose I'm supposed to live up to all the expectations they have of me. I think they saw my interest in acting more as a childish play thing, so they discouraged me from pursuing it later on because they didn't realize it was so important to me. Being the firstborn, I was afraid to tell them how important it was to me. I was afraid to do a lot of things with my parents for myself, so often sacrificed what I wanted for what I thought was the greater good.

This makes complete sense to me, especially considering I'm also firstborn daughter who only in the last decade realized it was OK to feel things like anger and to have plans of my own.  Let's talk this to death later. 

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Thank you for your support, Lynne. Since we've actually met in person, and had a chance to talk for a bit, the fact that you can recognize what I'm talking about means the world to me. It just fits... somehow.  And I'm starting to feel ashamed that I didn't go after my dreams when I had the chance, even if I thought I was doing the right thing at the time....

I understand why you're feeling that shame - I'd pick a different word - maybe 'disappointment in yourself'?  Shame should be reserved for when you've done a WRONG - I don't see that here.  Don't you think that's just more wasted energy that you could be directing elsewhere?  Feel it, because you need to feel things, instead of suppress your feelings, but set a time and move past it.  If I'm learning anything from BBM, it's that I want to keep moving forward, growing, understanding myself.  No, my life at 39 is not how I envisioned it at 19; but I'm determined that when I look back at 59, it's going to be with a helluva lot less regret for opportunities missed.  And if that means I fall flat on my ass a few times, so be it.  There are loads of friends here who will understand and fully support you.  It only counts as a failure, IMO, if you let it paralyze you and you can't get past it.  It's the process, the experience, that's important.  It's highly likely that for some cosmic reason if you'd 'gone for it' before, there would have been other problems - maybe you wouldn't have been mature enough to make the right choices or even understand them?

If we're going to go with Brother Patrick's prayer, then we've got to believe that the circumstances are being engineered NOW.  Otherwise, it would have happened back then, right?
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Post by: Br. Patrick on October 11, 2007, 05:32:15 am
Well I have been tossing and turning in my bed for about an hour and a half, now.... but I think its a good thing. I actually have a slightly stronger perception of where my life is going right now... and I think I have the perfect prayer to thank for it.

I was laying in bed and I remembered to pray the prayer. I got it wrong the first time, saying Lord, Engineer my circumstances according to your will.  After a few minutes of laying in the dark, I realized this, and prayed it again, Engineer my circumstances, Lord, according to your will.  But for some reason, I have a feeling that I am supposed to be moving on with my life... it's burning brilliantly within me, though I have no idea of what or how to move on, and what's more is that I have an immense fear that somewhere along the way I made some wrong turns and it will take a large amound of backtracking to get where I'm supposed to be. So I prayed the prayer one more time... Engineer my circumstances, Lord, according to your will, but please - do it quickly.

Now that I am seeing this way... now that I am remembering the thrill of the stage, and wonder what the hell I've done to myself the past ten years of my life, I am really afraid... I don't know how to get back into that experience, don't know if I even have the skills to do so... just a great desire. And I don't know if anyone will want me once I get there, or if I will be able to make one damn bit of difference in those experiences.  So I'm stuck... or so it seems.  I will continue to pray the perfect prayer... but I think I might need others to pray for me too.

Daniel~!

Your thoughts tell me that you received the Spiritual 'Gift' that I sent you.  Keep repeating "The Perfect Prayer" and when the time is RIGHT things will happen, I promise!

You have had quite the life!  I can see how you can be confused when you are so talented in SO MANY areas!  And I do pray for you every day!

{{Cyberhugs}}

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Post by: Br. Patrick on October 11, 2007, 05:36:53 am
(to Daniel) If we're going to go with Brother Patrick's prayer, then we've got to believe that the circumstances are being engineered NOW.  Otherwise, it would have happened back then, right?

'don't want to be all holy on your ass' but that's Romans 8:28 and it's TRUE~!

{{Cyberhugs}}

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Post by: ifyoucantfixit on October 11, 2007, 06:50:39 pm




        Daniel too has a very special gift to share with the rest of us..he is wonderful.             :)
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Post by: Br. Patrick on October 12, 2007, 07:07:44 am
        Daniel too has a very special gift to share with the rest of us..he is wonderful.             :)

Daniel simply and absolutely blows my mind.  I've never 'met' someone so intelligent and so emotionally sensitive as well.   He is truly a gift to us all and deserves the title: BetterMost Sage!

And if you think that he is gifted now, just wait!    ::)

{{Cyberhugs}}

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Post by: Daniel on October 12, 2007, 10:32:09 am
I had another waking moment when I was waking up this morning... Its something I've always thought about doing, but have always been too afraid to try it.

Remembering all that stuff from ten years ago got me thinking. There are a number of people in my life from back then that I never properly thanked; one of them being a young man named Nathanael who was one of the few people that was kind to me during that difficult time of my life. So I'm going to call his parents later on this morning and see if they can't give me his current phone number. I really need to thank him for that, and to apologize for the attitude of arrogant pride that I held onto in that difficult time as a way of preventing others from hurting me.
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Post by: Br. Patrick on October 12, 2007, 12:09:56 pm
I had another waking moment when I was waking up this morning... Its something I've always thought about doing, but have always been too afraid to try it.

Welcome to your personalized  NEW life~!  :D

{{Cyberhugs}}

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Post by: Daniel on October 12, 2007, 12:15:00 pm
Well, thank you, Brother Patrick... Is personalized the same as revitalized?
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Post by: Br. Patrick on October 12, 2007, 03:14:25 pm
Well, thank you, Brother Patrick... Is personalized the same as revitalized?

If it is with you then I can go with that.   Really, you have just begun!   If I could make a wish for you, I wish that you could see twixt too.  If only for a time, the pleasure would be mine.

{{Cyberhugs}}

br. p
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Post by: Daniel on October 13, 2007, 11:46:48 am
Today's revelation:

I came upon, and I believe this is a scripture, but I'm not entirely certain. It was something I remember growing up with in my religious home, when it was taught to me as something that Jesus said. "Give up your wordily possessions and follow me."

Of course, the way it was taught to me made it a little difficult to do. Unless I wanted to join a monastary, which I've never felt a calling to do (except on alternate Thursdays).

But today, as I was lying in bed, I began to think of the word "possessions" differently. What if it was not referring to the things which we possess, but the things which possess us. Those things I would gladly give up, because I want to be a free mind. Which of course got me thinking, what if Jesus's "me" wasn't himself, but the free "Me" of each individual. So instead of meaning "Give up all your worldly goods and services and do not partake in the riches that life has to offer so that you can sacrifice all these illusions of being and focus on the true spiritual reality of the Messiah", he was saying "Free your body and mind from the worldly dominations, those things that control your life and prevent you from knowing who you really are."
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Post by: Br. Patrick on October 13, 2007, 01:39:01 pm
Today's revelation:

I came upon, and I believe this is a scripture, but I'm not entirely certain. It was something I remember growing up with in my religious home, when it was taught to me as something that Jesus said. "Give up your worldly possessions and follow me."

...the true spiritual reality of the Messiah", he was saying "Free your body and mind from the worldly dominations, those things that control your life and prevent you from knowing who you really are."

Things and possessions in general are fine for what they are.  If they get in the way of enlightenment, then one would want to rid oneself of these impediments.  I have posted in Scott's blog how surrounded I am with Electronics to help distract me from the pain of depression.  When I was 'dying' the need for these things just fell along the way.  It's only a problem when our 'things' control us, as you have said, wisely, as usual.

Because the Gospels went through a few generations passed down as a group of sayings (oral traditions), something always gets lost in the translations, especially when they were finally written into the "Word" and finalized.  Jeez had all of his needs provided for by the women who traveled along with the group.  He never lacked anything that he needed.

{{Cyberhugs}}

br. p
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Post by: ifyoucantfixit on October 13, 2007, 03:25:56 pm




        Would you like a cyber donut....?   That is a deed for a woman...   LOL
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Post by: Br. Patrick on October 14, 2007, 03:17:07 am
        Would you like a cyber donut....?   That is a deed for a woman...   LOL

Mmmmmmmmmm~!  :-*

{{Cyberhugs}}

br. p
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Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on October 20, 2007, 01:21:37 pm
Hey Br. Patrick, ran across this and thought you might like it.

Hope your back is leaving you alone.  ;D

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H71Fv3PcQQY[/youtube]
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Post by: Br. Patrick on October 22, 2007, 07:39:42 am
Hey Br. Patrick, ran across this and thought you might like it.
Hope your back is leaving you alone.  ;D

Had to use the URL & paste it into a new Tab.   Thanks~!  I love anything Rufus!   My back is totally useless and I REFUSE to take painkillers until I just can't stand it anymore.  But considering what it COULD be like, I suppose I should count my blessings~!

{{Cyberhugs}}

br. p
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Post by: Br. Patrick on October 26, 2007, 04:03:02 pm
Went back to my local church a few weeks ago and was absolutely stunned.  The liturgy that used to comfort me made me want to stand on the Altar and say "YOU DON'T GET IT~!"   Had to get some spiritual direction on how to deal with that.   "Never cast pearls before swines..." Swines are cool; pearls are cool; but Swine doesn't know what to make of a pearl.

I was told to pray with / for the congregation and keep at it until I don't feel so isolated.   I haven't been back to church since August of 2007 because of the worse back sprain of my life.

When I went into personal prayer everything was cool.  When I attempted to get into the service, I'm just not the same person that I was.   Better.    I like that!

{{Cyberhugs}}

br. p
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Post by: ifyoucantfixit on October 26, 2007, 04:29:47 pm




         I am very happy for you, to have come to such a place in your life.
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Post by: Br. Patrick on October 29, 2007, 01:05:48 am
         I am very happy for you, to have come to such a place in your life.

Today, I sat up in the Choir Loft and watched the procedings from that perspective.  That's how I see the people I love in that church when I pray anyway.  I'm gonna do that for the next few weeks.  It's hotter than hell up there but the view is great and the choir is great.  I gave a CD of Rufus and I playing "Hallelujah" to Sr. Kathleen, OP, who is a professional organist.  She said she liked the original better.  Then I told her that I am playing the same thing that Rufus is...  All she could say was "well I don't know how you can do that..."  All is GOOD~!

{{Cyberhugs}}

br. p
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Post by: ifyoucantfixit on October 29, 2007, 03:13:04 am



          "There are none so blind, as those who will not see."   Seems to fit there.   
 
          Glad to hear you are able to get to the church....((((((((  love  ))))))))))))    me...
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Post by: Br. Patrick on October 30, 2007, 07:54:02 am
          "There are none so blind, as those who will not see."   Seems to fit there.   

I guess I was really fishing for a compliment because the version she got sounds much better than the one that I posted here.  I guess that I do take what she said as a compliment and even maybe a comment on her own limitations as  a professional.  She and I talked Sunday because I sang my lungs out with the choir.  I just didn't want her to notice and she didn't.   All is very good~!

You are sweet, as ususual... :-*

{{Cyberhugs}}

br. p
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Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on October 30, 2007, 08:06:20 am
Today, I sat up in the Choir Loft and watched the procedings from that perspective.  That's how I see the people I love in that church when I pray anyway.  I'm gonna do that for the next few weeks.  It's hotter than hell up there but the view is great and the choir is great.  I gave a CD of Rufus and I playing "Hallelujah" to Sr. Kathleen, OP, who is a professional organist.  She said she liked the original better.  Then I told her that I am playing the same thing that Rufus is...  All she could say was "well I don't know how you can do that..."  All is GOOD~!

{{Cyberhugs}}

br. p

My mind conjured up a mental images of this woman saying that. Oh my! Wish I could be there to hear you sing it.
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Post by: Br. Patrick on October 31, 2007, 12:23:03 am
My mind conjured up a mental images of this woman saying that. Oh my! Wish I could be there to hear you sing it.

I can't sing all of it - some is too high - but I can play it on keyboards and boy did she run after her 'comment.'

{{Cyberhugs}} Hope all is well with you~!

br. p
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Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on October 31, 2007, 08:28:09 am
Thinks are very well here, it is getting cold outside at night. All the house plants are inside, making the basement like a jungle. Hope your back and general health is on the good side of the chart. Happy All Saints Eve!
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Post by: Br. Patrick on October 31, 2007, 10:01:23 am
Thinks are very well here, it is getting cold outside at night. All the house plants are inside, making the basement like a jungle. Hope your back and general health is on the good side of the chart. Happy All Saints Eve!
Brrrr... not that cold here to be sure, house plants of the restaurant below me are still flowering!  Thursday, November 1st, 2007 is my 28th Anniversary of being a Benedictine monk (hermit)~!   Party time!

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
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Post by: ifyoucantfixit on November 01, 2007, 03:47:07 am


           
   Congratulations on your Anniversary PATRICK

               My heartiest congratulations on that.  Enjoy your day today.... :D :D

                Do something fun, and entertaining...cut loose...it will do you good..!!!
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Post by: Br. Patrick on November 01, 2007, 10:47:18 am
               My heartiest congratulations on that.  Enjoy your day today.... :D :D

                Do something fun, and entertaining...cut loose...it will do you good..!!!

I went to church this morning at 7AM for prayers before mass at 8AM.  No organist...   Guess who played?  (first time I played organ pedals in 10 YEARS)!!!  All is good~! Thanks~!
and to prove it...
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Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on November 01, 2007, 03:40:30 pm
 ;D

Congradulations my brother, what an accomplishment! My very best wishes to you.

Now are you truly a "hermit" or just being as much a hermit as you can be in 2007?
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Post by: ifyoucantfixit on November 01, 2007, 09:23:49 pm
       This is me with a big ol smile...I am so happy you did something fun and different..I know it was a beautiful day.!!!

                                                        :D      :D      :D       :D      :D

                                                                   
                                                               (((((( hugs ))))))
                                                                you are the best     
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Post by: Br. Patrick on November 02, 2007, 08:31:08 am
;D

Congratulations my brother, what an accomplishment! My very best wishes to you.

Now are you truly a "hermit" or just being as much a hermit as you can be in 2007?

I suppose a 'better' hermit would need less electronics.  Hermits were always allowed writing tablets and ink.  Pirating Copying has been going on for over 1500 years!

When I prayed about that very question some time ago I received the following answer...


All I need I have.
I need all I have.


Works for me~!

{{Cyberhugs}}

br. p
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Post by: Br. Patrick on November 02, 2007, 08:37:01 am
       This is me with a big ol smile...I am so happy you did something fun and different..I know it was a beautiful day.!!!

                                                        :D      :D      :D       :D      :D

                                                                   
                                                               (((((( hugs ))))))
                                                                you are the best     

Now how can I be best when YOU are the BEST to say the least?

'Twas a good day...  Thanks so much~!

{{{{{{CYBERHUGS}}}}}}

br. p
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Post by: Br. Patrick on November 07, 2007, 08:26:03 am
Time for an appearance of one of Ennis' and Jack's Sheep!
He has excaped from a coyote and has had a near-death experience~!
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Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on November 07, 2007, 10:38:30 am
Welly law, ain't it happy to be in front of a camera!  ;D
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Post by: Br. Patrick on November 14, 2007, 02:38:35 pm
Welly law, ain't it happy to be in front of a camera!  ;D

I think I accidently posted a goat and called it a sheep...

Here's a real sheep with a "little pecker"  LOL

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Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on November 14, 2007, 02:43:51 pm
1. I thought that looked like a goat, but I wasn't going to say anything, and;

2. That is sheep and bird picture is going to turn up in my nightmares, no doubt.  :laugh:
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Post by: Br. Patrick on November 14, 2007, 02:49:47 pm
1. I thought that looked like a goat, but I wasn't going to say anything, and;

2. That is sheep and bird picture is going to turn up in my nightmares, no doubt.  :laugh:

If a sheep can get this kind of service, i ASSURE you happy dreams.  Funny pic...
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Post by: ifyoucantfixit on November 18, 2007, 11:53:03 am



         Geesh egads,, those pictures of the not sheep,,,i was polite too Truman..and then the bird and the
real sheep...eewwwwu ....where did you come up with that one Bro Patrick...?
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Post by: Lynne on November 18, 2007, 10:21:33 pm
Hey there, Brother Patrick!

First, thank you so much for sending me Coffee Date!  It turned out that Glory (lil darlin) and I watched it together Saturday afternoon.  Don't get me wrong - I liked it a great deal, but I wasn't entirely satisfied with the ending...we'll have to talk in chat or something so I don't give away spoilers.  But I am definitely curious on how you felt about it too!  Thanks again for providing us with a terrific afternoon!

Love,
Lynne
 :-* :-* :-*
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Post by: Br. Patrick on November 19, 2007, 12:39:04 am
where did you come up with that one Bro Patrick...?

My girlFriend Polly, who was with me during the height of my near-death experiences gave me some nature shots for my Media Center PC.   Cute Huh?
...and how ARE you doing, my dear girl?

{{{{Cyberhugs}}}}

br. p
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Post by: Br. Patrick on November 19, 2007, 12:44:03 am
I am definitely curious on how you felt about it too!  Thanks again for providing us with a terrific afternoon!


The same way you did.   Still worth a watch, don't you agree?

 :-* br. p
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Post by: Lynne on December 05, 2007, 07:23:50 pm
Absolutely it was worth it.  A couple of days later I saw THE BIG EDEN.  Are you familiar with that one?

I think you may be right re: some of our talks about bisexuality.  I should prob'ly take this over to my blog...see you there.
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Post by: Lynne on December 05, 2007, 07:23:51 pm
Absolutely it was worth it.  A couple of days later I saw THE BIG EDEN.  Are you familiar with that one?

I think you may be right re: some of our talks about bisexuality.  I should prob'ly take this over to my blog...see you there.
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Post by: Br. Patrick on December 08, 2007, 02:59:35 am
....where did you come up with that one Bro Patrick...?

Duh... I really don't remember.  I have had this Media Center PC for over a year and I'm still finding pictures on IT~!

{{{{{{{Cyberhugs}}}}}}}

br. p
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Post by: Br. Patrick on December 09, 2007, 07:22:36 am
Here is a gift sent to me by Truman that absolutely needs to be shared with ANYONE who has problems with this time of year.    For me, there is X-MESS and Christmas...  The photo is from my own collection.  Enjoy!

"Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. We also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2008, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great. Not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country nor the only America in the Western Hemisphere . And without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of the wishee. By accepting these greetings you are accepting these terms. This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for herself or himself or others, and is void where prohibited by law and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher."

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p


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Post by: Br. Patrick on December 10, 2007, 08:38:59 am
  :laugh:  :laugh:   :laugh:  :laugh:  ::)

Seasons Bleatings Everybody~!

{{{{Woof}}}}

br. p
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Post by: Artiste on December 11, 2007, 11:45:13 pm
Hugs to everyone
!!

Happy times to all too!!

Hugs!!
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Post by: ifyoucantfixit on December 12, 2007, 07:40:07 pm
                                

                                        [youtube=425,350]
[/youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd2hkLjWvzw


                        

                               This doesnt seem to want to work, so I posted the linc too.
                                 I love it.   hope you will too.                            
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on December 13, 2007, 10:38:32 am
                               

                                  This doesnt seem to want to work, so I posted the linc too.
                                 I love it.   hope you will too.                            

I do~!  I will make or buy a recording of the song.  Have you heard of the Rufus tune: "Going to a town"??


{{{{{{{Cyberhugs}}}}}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on December 13, 2007, 05:29:16 pm



         Oh yes, I like that one a lot.  I also like Rules and Regulations a great deal as well.  Youtube has those on
video too.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on December 14, 2007, 12:16:55 pm
RE: "Going to a Town" 
Oh yes, I like that one a lot.  I also like Rules and Regulations a great deal as well.  Youtube has those on
video too.
I've almost can play it on the keyboard with Rufus.   Some of the chords that he used are really unexpected but sound so right.   I love playing along with Rufus~!  Still learning some of his modulation changes...

{{{{{{{Cuberhugs}}}}}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lumière on December 14, 2007, 05:29:25 pm
Hey P,

Sending you Season's Greetings.. :)
It has been 4 effin years.

Hope you are well.  ;)

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/Lucise/Animes/KrisMas/67ec162d.gif)


~M
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on December 16, 2007, 08:10:27 am
Here's a gift for ALL that I discovered at my Therapist's Office....   ;)

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on December 16, 2007, 08:14:35 am
A couple of days later I saw THE BIG EDEN.  Are you familiar with that one?

I bought a copy from amazon.com as soon as I read your reply.   I already saw it on LOGO but forgot all about it~!   Great film!!!

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on December 16, 2007, 08:26:18 am
Hey P,

Sending you Season's Greetings.. :)
It has been 4 effin years.

Hope you are well.  ;)

~M

Greetings received and are returned a hundred-fold to anybody reading this.   How's your Quest for Light?   You must have found it by now~!


^^^Cyberhugs^^^    ("^"  = a little Christmas Tree  :) )

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lumière on December 17, 2007, 01:29:31 pm
Greetings received and are returned a hundred-fold to anybody reading this.   How's your Quest for Light?   You must have found it by now~!


I am working on it, P.  Still working on it.  ;)


~M
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on December 20, 2007, 01:08:52 pm
I am working on it, P.  Still working on it.  ;)
~M

My dear girl,

I have found thoughout my spiritual journey that there just have to be periods of 'darkness' so that one can truly appreciate the gift of light in a way perfectly tailored for you.   Hang in there~!  This pic shows what I see when a bright light has a dark background (obviously not here but you get the idea...)  I see circular rainbows~!

{{{Angels Singing "BBM Forever"}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on December 20, 2007, 02:07:42 pm
I hear you on this one, Brother Patrick...

I believe I already recounted to you my story of the Vision of the Blue Star... the swallowing up of our eyes in an effort to see beyond and above what we could see before... (that is the only way I can describe the sensation of relaxing our image sensors so that we can allow more in - swallowing eyes), and how that Vision affects our perception and sense of light, and indeed everything that light originates from... the energy that is present in everything... even water.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on December 22, 2007, 04:01:20 pm
I hear you on this one, Brother Patrick...

I believe I already recounted to you my story of the Vision of the Blue Star... the swallowing up of our eyes in an effort to see beyond and above what we could see before... (that is the only way I can describe the sensation of relaxing our image sensors so that we can allow more in - swallowing eyes), and how that Vision affects our perception and sense of light, and indeed everything that light originates from... the energy that is present in everything... even water.

You remind me of something that has really been on my mind but that I haven't brought up in the thread.  When I "died" on August 12, 2007, I was flung around the cosmos while being serenaded by angels (for the perfect prayer).   That part is still very clear and it went on for some time.  The reason I bring this up was that I 'saw everything' kind of like what we do here but with tremendous more to take in.  Kind of having a thousand eyes...

When I spent personal time with the One Who IS and had my questions answered, the way I perceived reality had absolutely changed.  I was in a 'room' but there were no Walls.   The One Who Is kept changing outward appearances but always with the same Essence.    Other essences passed me by thanking me for the "perfect prayer."   My experience of vision during this time was unlike anything that I have experienced but I was quite calm and comfortable in this 'new' reality.   I definitely didn't require 'eyes' or any 'organ'.   Your wisdom expresses it best when you say, "the relaxing of our image sensors and the perception of the energy that is present in everything."   I have been trying to convey this experience in a way that others could appreciate it.   It seems you have done it for me.

Thank you, my dear boy...

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

Br. Patrick
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on December 31, 2007, 10:11:40 am


       Dear Patrick;

          I just want to wish you the Happiest of New Years..  I wish to thank you for all your care and love.
I just hope you have all the peace and joy you deserve.  That is of enormous proportions...

                                                                                                            Thank you again, Janice   :-*
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on December 31, 2007, 03:10:11 pm

       Dear Patrick;

          I just want to wish you the Happiest of New Years..  I wish to thank you for all your care and love.
I just hope you have all the peace and joy you deserve.  That is of enormous proportions...

                                                                                                            Thank you again, Janice   :-*

Dear Janice;

          I just want to wish you the Happiest of New Years..  I wish to thank you for all your care and love.
I just hope you have all the peace and joy you deserve.  That is of enormous proportions...

                                                                                                            Thank you again, Patrick   :-*


{{{{{{{Good things bear repeating}}}}}}   Have a GREAT 2008~!

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on December 31, 2007, 03:29:21 pm
I believe I already recounted to you my story of the Vision of the Blue Star...

Can't seem to find anywhere I stored it if you posted it.  Must bear repeating or you wouldn't have mentioned it.  It's wierd because I had been researching the broadcast spectrum when you posted it.  EVERYTHING is Vibrations... i.e., energy...

{{{Cyberhugs and a Great 2008}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on December 31, 2007, 03:31:18 pm
When we get down on that subatomic level it is what vibrates, and what does not, that makes up everything.

A blessed 2008 to you dear friend!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on December 31, 2007, 03:36:42 pm
A blessed 2008 to you dear friend!


I treasure you.

{{{Cyberhugs and a Great 2008}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Scott6373 on December 31, 2007, 03:38:11 pm
A very Happy and spiritually fulfilling new year to you Br. Patrick.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lumière on December 31, 2007, 05:03:29 pm
Hello Br. P,


(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/Lucise/Misc/Art/1b7aaa9b.jpg)


May the next year be a wonderful one!  :)

Hugs,
~M
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 01, 2008, 06:39:59 am
A very Happy and spiritually fulfilling new year to you Br. Patrick.

A very Happy and spiritually fulfilling new year to you, Scott~!   (Can't improve on that!)

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 01, 2008, 06:42:09 am

Hello Br. P,
May the next year be a wonderful one!  :)

Hugs,
~M

My world wouldn't be as beautiful as it is without knowing you~!

{{{Cyberhugs and a Great 2008~!}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 01, 2008, 06:49:28 am
To all my friends who follow this thread  (especially Lynne   :-*  and Daniel )


HAPPY NEW YEAR
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on January 01, 2008, 04:17:30 pm
Thank you, Brother Patrick

In this coming year may you know that your life has a sacred and special purpose and that by just being around you, the spiritual lives of others will become fulfilled. What comes naturally to you is the peace and hope of others, and what you become without fault or error is the natural lifespring of the Universe.
Life is not measured by what portion of infinity we can carry to our graves, but by the moments that are themselves infinite.

And always, always, recognize that love is the breath of the Cosmos. It is given and received freely, every time fueling the life of the Universe and everything within it. For where there is love, there is life. They are inseparable.

There is no doubt in my mind that these things will come to pass in the new year. What we lack, most often, is the vision to see it occur when it comes to pass. It is so often only in hindsight that we can see the miraculous gifts that are given to us.

Last night, on the eve of the new year, I could not sleep, and tossed and turned with strange and wondrous thoughts drifting through my head.

And one more piece fell into place in the puzzle I call my life. It is truly strange and wondrous how effective the Perfect Prayer is. "Engineer my circumstances, Lord, according to Your will." What a truly divine gift you have given me, Brother Patrick. You hold a sacred place in my heart and have inspired me to be held in the sacred hearts of others... by reflecting the natural, magnificent gifts that I have been bestowed with.

As always, you go in my heart, and walk along joyous paths in a gilded forest of light.

-Daniel.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 02, 2008, 10:07:39 am
Thank you, Brother Patrick

-Daniel.

WOW, I humbly accept what you say because, as you know, I'm just a 'conduit' of the One Who IS.  So are you, my friend.  Many reading along are too.

I started January 1st with a return trip.. home.  I was watching a hilarious old movie on Turner Classic Movies and laughed so hard, I laughed myself right into 'heaven'~!  For a while I didn't think that I was going to come back!  That makes TWO experiences of laughing myself back to where I was when I 'died' on August 12, 2007.  It has happened while I was in prayer two other times, last year.  It never seemed the 'right time' to tell this until now.  I really still feel very close to the.. Other Side.  This morning before prayer I was 'told' that nothing will happen to me from now on by.. accident.  I warmly smiled and gratefully acknowledged this gift.  It's like the same as usual but now I feel like it has been given to me "gift wrapped"~!  And the things that have been happening around me have been just awesome~!  Really, modesty stops me from going on and on - but it is just incredible~!   So are you.

Thank you so much and may what I'm receiving come to everyone reading this a hundredfold~!

{{{Cyber Gratitude}}}  ::) and LOVE

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on January 10, 2008, 08:58:42 am
Brother Patrick, Daniel, Others,

I woke up early this morning - 4:30 am here in San Diego - my mind awash with random and disconnected thoughts and no small amount of anxiety.  You see, the interview I had yesterday here went well.  I am pretty sure they liked me - and I'm pretty sure I like them.  I still have a few outstanding issues even if they offer it to me.  I found myself praying that this works out for me - a lot of it was selfish - it's a promotion (again), more responsibility - people would report to me! - more money.  I really don't think I can stand my current job if I have to go back.  I want my mother out here with me and I want to be settled somewhere.  And then I was dwelling on all the things that could go wrong.  Should I really have used this one colleague as a reference - sometimes he's a drama queen and can be unpredictable?  There's going to be a background check - what if I've messed up too badly before?  What if I didn't do as well during the interview as I think? And on and on...ad infinitum.

Notice how many times 'I' and 'me' appear above.  Then I remembered what I've been calling your 'Engineering' prayer.  If it is meant to be, it will be (and vice versa).  I've done what is in my power, and it is out of my hands now.

Thank you, Brother Patrick.

Love,
Lynne
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on January 10, 2008, 07:47:28 pm
I too have been suffering from anxiety over certain issues related to my life's purpose/well being. Is it too difficult for a human to ask that he receive a purpose in this life with meaningful and enjoyable work? Or are we to be continually driven by a sense of adventure that pulls us out of the humdrum of daily existence. I find that I am tearing myself up over whether or not I should call around regarding this new job that I have been thinking about. Part of me is excited about it, and feels that I am ready for this. Another part of me realizes that I could very well not like this job and could easily have my romantic viewpoints quickly torn asunder.

I shall continue to pray the Perfect Prayer. And perhaps it will ease this tension in me, where I have a feeling that "something" is about to happen. I wonder if it is something that I am supposed to be doing, or if it is something that is about to happen to me.

-Daniel
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 11, 2008, 06:39:37 am

I've been working on this Railroad
all the live long day~!

Engineered by the One Who Is
so I know I'll be Okay~!

Bringing all my friends along with me
even those not Gay~!

If we don't know where we're going
Perfect Prayer will show the way~!

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 11, 2008, 06:44:46 am

I have a feeling that "something" is about to happen. I wonder if it is something that I am supposed to be doing, or if it is something that is about to happen to me.

-Daniel

Daniel, Lynne, and ALL my dear friends,

SEE ABOVE~!

{{{Cyberhugs}}}  ::)

br. p

P.S.,
"Engineer All Of Our Circumstances, O Lord, According To Your Will"
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on January 11, 2008, 06:59:00 am



      You are getting more and more creative Bro Patrick..That is lovely...

    Hoping you are well.  Happy and fulfilled...        cyber hugs right back to you...........((((hugs++)))))            :)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 11, 2008, 07:06:33 am

      You are getting more and more creative Bro Patrick..That is lovely...


That is because of YOU~!    Ever since you GIFTED me with Rufus Wainwright's "Hallelujah" EVERYTHING is happening to me MUSICALLY~!

{{{{{{{      :-*     }}}}}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on January 11, 2008, 07:14:47 am



       Oh my goodness.  Thank you for telling me that..It makes my heart soar.... :-* :-*
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 11, 2008, 10:34:07 pm
...Then I remembered what I've been calling your 'Engineering' prayer.  If it is meant to be, it will be (and vice versa).  I've done what is in my power, and it is out of my hands now.

Thank you, Brother Patrick.

Love,
Lynne

I shall continue to pray the Perfect Prayer. And perhaps it will ease this tension in me, where I have a feeling that "something" is about to happen. I wonder if it is something that I am supposed to be doing, or if it is something that is about to happen to me.

-Daniel

My Dear Friends Lynne, Daniel,
Believe me when I say that I understand the angst that you both express in one way or another.  It really wouldn't be 'normal' for those beginning the Perfect Prayer and relying on the One Who Is not to feel very confused at times.  I mean, you both have been leading your lives so far 'seemingly' without needing Divine Intervention, Right?   BUT, I know from experience that the "Perfect Prayer" unknowingly has reverse Engineered the life you have led along with the point you are at in your lives at this "moment in the everlasting now."

From experience, I can assure you that all will work out just fine (and really easy) if you 'cooperate' with the Benefits of the Perfect Prayer.  In a nutshell, this means learning (or reLearning) your Sixth Sense, your Intuition so that you may easily cooperate with the circumstances occurring to you.

I call these things "blocks" or "Road Signs" as your life enfolds around you, moment by moment.  Being genuinely sincere with the Perfect Prayer will help develop this sense of discernment.   For example, if you are really 'thinking' that you should be following a particular Life Plan and you keep running into walls and barriers, these are the signs that what you have conjectured isn't the correct way for you.  Divine Providence has decreed a better, perfectly suited direction for your lives to follow.  Praying the Perfect Prayer will present the perfect life plan for you.  It is perfectly normal to feel confused and even overwhelmed when there seems like so many possibilities for your lives to proceed.  As you become more familiar with running into 'walls' of misdirection, you will indeed find the exact plan that has been layed out for you AND as Daniel has mentioned, has ALREADY been there when you see things in retrospect.

By and by, as you merge your own free will with the Will of the One Who Is, you will just know what to do next as your life enfolds in front of you.

I guess a helpful hint would be something that I learned a long time ago.   If I 'think' that I am 'supposed' to do something and I just keep running into barriers; by the third time that these obstacles occur I realize that I am 'outside of my LIFE-PLAN and it's time to discern something else.

The REALLY neat thing is how automatic this becomes once you get used to cooperating with the Engineer.  I will repeat what I said in response to Daniel's wonderful words to me as this new year began...

This morning before prayer I was 'told' that nothing will happen to me from now on by.. accident.  I warmly smiled and gratefully acknowledged this gift.  It's like the same as usual but now I feel like it has been given to me "gift wrapped"~!   

I hope all of this is making sense.  Another way of approaching the Perfect Prayer is to see it as a process through which your lives will unfold before you in a way that is custom tailored for your many gifts and talents.  It is perfectly normal in the beginning to find it uncomfortable to 'trust' something outside of you.  But here again, as Daniel has so wisely said, "What we lack, most often, is the vision to see it occur when it comes to pass. It is so often only in hindsight that we can see the miraculous gifts that are given to us."

I couldn't say that any better than what has been so wisely discerned by our Resident Sage here at BetterMost.

To me the absolute BEST part of the Perfect Prayer is that I get not only exactly what I need, I also find that I am always given everything that I merely want.  To give you an example, I have had my eye on a Terabyte (1000 Gigabytes) Hard Disk ever since they have come on the market.   Now I am a stickler for backing up my data and I have a 400 GB External Hard Disk with which I use to back up everything important to me on my 500 GB Hard Disk in my Media Center computer.  Well I had 62 Hours of Movies, Documentaries, etc., stored on that hard drive in a folder called "..\Recorded TV."  'Loggerheads' is in there along with 'Coffee Date' - files that I have shared with you both.  Wednesday, as I was about to backup a newly recorded movie in this External Hard Disk, the folder "..\Recorded TV" was GONE~!  To say the least, I FREAKED OUT~!   40 minutes later I was back in my apartment with a new Western Digital Internal SATA 1 Terabyte Hard Disk.  By then it was only a couple of hours until bedtime so I used that time to see what I could at least salvage from my old 'broken' 400GB External Hard Disk.  I ran every diagnostic program that I had on the drive and they all returned messages saying the Hard Disk was 'healthy' and there were NO PROBLEMS.  At that point I was very confused and THEN I realized that the free space on that External Hard Drive was 69GB~!  Now I KNEW that is how much space there had been left with my 62 hours of backed up video.  SO, I did a search.  DUH~!  I had somehow accidentally MOVED the "..\Recorded TV" folder INSIDE OF ANOTHER FOLDER~!  All my files were there and there was NO PROBLEM with this External Hard Disk.

But WOW, I now owned my Coveted 1 Terabyte Hard Drive which I installed the next day.

The point, as I am sure that you can see is that, I had not only what I needed, I now owned something that I had merely WANTED~!   I was/am So Grateful for this gratuitous gift~!  And I love it~!!!!!!

Bottom line, and I'll shut up, is the Perfect Prayer means not exactly giving up our own Free Will, but simply merging it with that of the One Who Is..   Hope this has helped!

{{{Cyberhugs & Whew, I think this is the longest post I have ever made~!}}}  :) :P ::) :-*

br. p


Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on January 12, 2008, 03:08:47 am
I had saved that very same image as my desktop background not too long ago. I changed it recently, but I still have that image.

Thank you for those kind words, Brother Patrick, and for a better understanding of how the Perfect Prayer manifests our true needs and desires in life.

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 12, 2008, 06:29:19 am

Thank you for those kind words, Brother Patrick, and for a better understanding of how the Perfect Prayer manifests our true needs and desires in life.

Daniel, my friend,

Do YOU have any idea what it feels like to hear these sage words?   I mean, you are easily the most intelligent human being I have ever encountered in my entire life~! {on This planet.. }

On my own I think I have about 40-54 brain cells still working...  ;)

I am totally humbled and again, 'just one of the Conduits of the One Who Is'~!

{{{CyberGratitude}}}   ::)

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on January 12, 2008, 05:46:04 pm

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                                 THANK YOU MY FRIEND!!!         :-*

                                                                                             I cried because i was so
                                                                                                touched
                                                                                                                            (http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb162/ifyoucantfixit/butterflygraphic14.gif)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on January 12, 2008, 10:08:41 pm
Can't seem to find anywhere I stored it if you posted it.  Must bear repeating or you wouldn't have mentioned it.  It's wierd because I had been researching the broadcast spectrum when you posted it.  EVERYTHING is Vibrations... i.e., energy...

{{{Cyberhugs and a Great 2008}}}

br. p


http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,5933.msg125104.html#msg125104 (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,5933.msg125104.html#msg125104)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on January 12, 2008, 11:00:41 pm
Alright, I will freely admit to being in a very depressed mood right now. And I'm not really certain why...

Right now I just want to curl up and go to sleep... for days if I can. And that makes me very upset with myself, because I realize that is not the healthiest thing in the world to do. I am also becoming angry with myself, though I am trying to pray the Perfect Prayer and bring some semblance of patience and appreciation back into my life. It just doesn't seem to be working. I keep thinking that I've messed up... or that I will need to do something very soon, but I'm not certain what it is, because I'm waiting for a sign that I'm moving in the right direction.

I keep reaching out to other people for support in my latest mental venture... and its just not there. Which makes me think that its not the right direction and there is a part of me that just really really wishes it were. Well, let me modify that. There are a number of people that have been very supportive.... but sometimes you need support from a physical person... and that's what I'm craving right now. I imagine that the midst of January's winter blues might have something to do with this feeling, but how much of it is genuine depression and how much of it is seasonal depression I am hard pressed to reply to.

The sad thing is... that after Christmas is over, I generally have very few things to look forward to. I've tried to look forward to each and every day, but sometimes that does not work out.

Anyway, please advise...

Thanks everyone, Daniel.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 13, 2008, 12:43:41 am
To let everyone in on the butterfly's...

Janice & I both have major problems with unresolved grief.  We have been helping each other, wow, it must be a couple of years by now.  I just shared with her easily the best (poorly made) film on dealing with one's grief that I have ever seen.   The script is so convoluted that it takes several viewings to really get the best out of it.  The butterfly theme is about how we help each other deal with grief by becoming connected with our lost loved ones.  The movie also has made me an absolute fanatic about the star, Sean Patrick Flanery.  The Movie is called "In The Fire" and was made in 2005.   (2005 was a banner year for healing films~!)  amazon.com sells it for 9.95 and it's worth it if anyone following along has unresolved grief issues.  I will close with Pics of the star.  Lord, he is gorgeous~!

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 13, 2008, 01:08:08 am
Alright, I will freely admit to being in a very depressed mood right now. And I'm not really certain why...

There are a number of people that have been very supportive.... but sometimes you need support from a physical person... and that's what I'm craving right now. I imagine that the midst of January's winter blues might have something to do with this feeling, but how much of it is genuine depression and how much of it is seasonal depression I am hard pressed to reply to.

The sad thing is... that after Christmas is over, I generally have very few things to look forward to. I've tried to look forward to each and every day, but sometimes that does not work out.

Anyway, please advise...

Thanks everyone, Daniel.

Daniel~!

Seasonal Affective Disorder
(depression due to reduced levels of natural light) is a Medical Condition.   It can be treated with antidepressant medications and/or a  Broad Spectrum Light Box (you can make your own if you are up to it or they are available commercially).  Somehow I feel the physical person that you need to see right now is either an experienced family doctor familiar with antidepressants and SAD, or any psychiatrist.  I know people with this disorder and have seen the improvement with the proper treatment.

Your story of the Blue Star is incredibly similar in many ways to what I have and continue to experience and makes me intuit that LIGHT is what you need right now.

Hope this helps..

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p

p.s., when I was 8 or 9 my friend and I were sleeping outside in the countryside in sleeping bags.  I looked up into the sky at the countless stars and could NOT close my eyes either.  I experienced INFINITY and I will never forget it.  It was 'one' of my many Peak Spiritual Experiences and my second 'connection' with the One Who Is..   The first one happened before I was 3 I think..
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Post by: Daniel on January 13, 2008, 01:38:04 pm
Thank you for that advice... I think I will try to stay away from anti-depressants though... I've taken them before, and they're... emotionally numbing. They seem to cut off all of my emotional feelings, not just the very bad ones.  I think there's a holistic healer in the area with a full spectrum light box, though.

Either way, I'm feeling much better today. Have worked some more on the ideas and principles that define my inner views which I call the Prismatic Path. That is beautiful unto itself.

Anyway, I will continue to pray the Perfect Prayer until this sense of confusion and missed opportunity completely fades away.
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Post by: Br. Patrick on January 13, 2008, 03:04:05 pm

Anyway, I will continue to pray the Perfect Prayer until this sense of confusion and missed opportunity completely fades away.

THAT, my dear friend will happen, I mean there isn't any way that i can't!   Agree about drugs dulling the mind - and your mind deservedly requires all of its immense resources that are at your disposal ~ in a whim~!

{{{Cyberhugs}}} and the more physical exercise you can handle will increase your endorphin levels in order to lead your cognition into realms mere mortals rarely occupy..   ::) :P :-*

br. p

Confusion and seemingly missed opportunities are necessary at the stage you're at.  You are developing in ways that we'll both laugh about some day.. if nothing else, simply for the obviousness~!
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Post by: moremojo on January 14, 2008, 06:46:40 pm
Daniel, you speak of the perception of needing physical comfort, and I know exactly what you're describing. This kind of physical comfort doesn't need to be sexual (though it can include that) but is rather more fundamental, a simple yet profound reassurance that you're here and you matter...LITERALLY. I remember last summer, when I was seriously contemplating suicide, and my friend Steve sought me out and would stay with me for a spell, just listening to what I had to say. I remember hugging him and feeling the wonderful reassurance of his physical presence, the warmth of his body and the tender reality of the sweat on his clothes. I felt connected to the universe through him, and felt a sense of worth and belonging. That sense helped me get through that time, and helps me today.

I was lucky enough to have a Steve in my life at that moment, but not all fraught moments are endowed with such blessings. What do we do when we have no one but ourselves to love us and reassure us? It may be "second best", but we can do something to remind ourselves that we are loved. Eat a little comfort food--give your feet a well-earned massage--wear soft, cozy clothes--regard yourself in a mirror and recognize the vulnerability and goodness that is you.  And hopefully, while ever being mindful of your own presence and worth, another will come along and freely give evidence of their keen admiration for the You that is you.
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Post by: ifyoucantfixit on January 16, 2008, 01:32:52 pm


                  Bro Patrick

                   Here are two wonderful videos,   One from my blog,, and one from Scotts.   Placed there by Truman.
                     http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,16075.new.html#new

                      http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,5546.new.html#new 

                                            enjoy..........friend

           
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Post by: Br. Patrick on January 17, 2008, 06:15:42 am

                                            enjoy..........friend
           

Janice, my sweet Butterfly~!

I thank you most humbly with gratitude.   But you are Much more than a ..friend.. to me~!

{{{{{{{     Janice    }}}}}}}   :-*

br.  p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on January 18, 2008, 12:02:00 pm
   


        Bro Patrick:
           heres a song i like,,,,and its title is very fitting to  BBM, and your situation ........... Hope you
like progressive jazz. It's gonna be alright    360 Blue

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Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 18, 2008, 02:08:43 pm
          Bro Patrick:
           heres a song i like,,,,and its title is very fitting to  BBM, and your situation ........... Hope you
like progressive jazz. It's gonna be alright 

Thanks, Darlin', and the absolute BEST  thing I have learned on this planet is that everything will eventually come together in a way that is so perfectly tailored to my needs that it has never ceased to amaze me, astound me, and fill me with Gratitude & Praise.  You are one of these~!  If not for Lynne, not for Bettermost, not for Phillip, not for Brokeback Mountain, not for the One Who Is I would never have beheld the incredible changes that have happened to us both since we met.   And we're just beginning~!  Shared "In The Fire" with my pdoc yesterday.  Along with my therapist, these professsionals need to know what happens to people with unresolved grief~! 

{{{{{{{     Janice    }}}}}}}   :-*

br. p
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Post by: Br. Patrick on January 18, 2008, 02:22:12 pm
What do we do when we have no one but ourselves to love us and reassure us? It may be "second best", but we can do something to remind ourselves that we are loved. Eat a little comfort food--give your feet a well-earned massage--wear soft, cozy clothes--regard yourself in a mirror and recognize the vulnerability and goodness that is you.  And hopefully, while ever being mindful of your own presence and worth, another will come along and freely give evidence of their keen admiration for the You that is you.

Sorry, this one just flew by my radar.  I just knew you are full of such needed 'truisms' and please continue to share them as you see a need.   They are appreciated beyond your very dreams~!

{{{Cyberhugs & an apology for not responding sooner..   :-\   }}}

br. p
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Post by: moremojo on January 18, 2008, 02:30:27 pm
{{{Cyberhugs & an apology for not responding sooner..   :-\   }}}
S'all right...s'all right...  ;)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 23, 2008, 07:03:30 am
HEATH:  I feel that this sad, sad news will have a very powerful effect on the emotional depths of the Sure to be Classic:  'Brokeback Mountain'.   I feel it will be easily as important and probably more so, than the James Dean film, his "Rebel Without A Cause"   James transcended generations and I believe Heath will as well.   There are only a few actors who die young yet continue to affect us.  James Dean, Marilyn Monroe, River Phoenix (add your personal ones here) and now..

Our Beloved Heath ...    :'(

Eternal rest grant upon him, O Lord
and let Perpetual Light shine upon him;
May his soul and all the souls of the faithful departed,
through the mercy of God, rest in peace.


AMEN~!

(ancient Christian prayer)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: MaineWriter on January 23, 2008, 11:50:07 am
Thank you for that prayer, Br. Patrick, and your commnents. They help.

Leslie
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Post by: Daniel on January 23, 2008, 08:38:42 pm
Brother Patrick, would you say this describes me:

thought to be assertive, dominant, shy, sensitive, emotional, artistic, talented, heplful, dependent, intuitive, unique, introvert, practical, doer, dreamer, nuturing, sensual, clean-minded, traditional, active, organized, idealistic, broad-minded, brave, thoughtful, playful, devoted, flirtatious, idealistic, quiet, proud, loyal, athletic, romantic, compassionate, sympathetic, often funny, flamboyant, caring, and imaginative?
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 24, 2008, 04:20:39 am
Brother Patrick, would you say this describes me:

thought to be assertive, dominant, shy, sensitive, emotional, artistic, talented, helpful, dependent, intuitive, unique, introvert, practical, doer, dreamer, nurturing, sensual, clean-minded, traditional, active, organized, idealistic, broad-minded, brave, thoughtful, playful, devoted, flirtatious, idealistic, quiet, proud, loyal, athletic, romantic, compassionate, sympathetic, often funny, flamboyant, caring, and imaginative?

Dominant is too harsh; rather, a born leader..
Emotional in a GOOD way..  You are extremely sensitive.
Dependent?  no way..
Introvert? I think Jung would put you right in the middle re: Extrovert (that is a GOOD thing)
Clean-minded and Broad-minded are not mutually exclusive..  You're right on.
Traditional?  In a Good way..
Quiet? Only when you need time to process information.. (that the rest of us couldn't even fathom)
Athletic?  You're probably no more of a jock that the majority of us..
Compassionate?  I don't know if you realize just how compassionate you come across...
Flamboyant? Can't imagine you in drag; too intelligent for (bad) camp..

In short, you are the most unique person that I have ever encountered.   I wish I could sit at your feet for hours and take in your wisdom... 

When the One Who Is mentions YOU by name..  Wow!  Be honored, you deserve it.

{{{Cyberhugs}}}  RIP Heath

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 24, 2008, 03:31:55 pm
I need some catharsis so.. for what it's worth...

In another parallel existence these characters whose lives have become so alive to us live again.  At first it was just Ennis just appearing in Jack’s dreams, Ennis as he had first seen him that crucial moment when his beat up truck pulled up outside Aguirre’s trailer and they discovered what that summer would hold for them.  Ennis, introducing himself to the man who would forever change their lives. Jack, remembering that first electric moment when their hands touched.  Jack had found himself back on the Mountain with only a fair recollection of how he had reached there.  He was young again, wearing his Blue Denim Shirt but found the weather perfect and kept himself occupied with whiskey springs and the wildlife, especially the bluebirds, with their awesome song.  Although he had everything he needed he didn’t feel complete until that one day someone familiar rode up to meet him.  It was Ennis, wearing his Yellow Plaid Shirt and looking young and perky.  They settled down and are still there.  They have no possibility of boredom so every night they experience the power of love that brought them to Brokeback Mountain in the first place.  There’s plenty to eat and they never tire of the unending supply of BetterMost Beans.

Thanks for letting me do this...
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: moremojo on January 24, 2008, 06:13:40 pm
Those are wonderful thoughts, Brother. There is part of me that feels that Jack and Ennis do exist, somehow and somewhere, and that in the fullness of Eternity we will know them.
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Post by: Lumière on January 24, 2008, 06:18:05 pm
Hey P,

Cyberhugs to you, bud.   :)


~M
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 27, 2008, 01:59:34 am
It really feels that a close friend has died.  This is not unusual (for me) to mourn like this.  And the timing...  I made vows as a Benedictine Monk in 1979.  Last November 1st, I celebrated my 28th anniversary.   My Birthday is February 28.  I was born in 1954 and will be 54 in February.  Heath Ledger was born in 1979 and died at 28 in 2008.  I find it astounding (but not unusual) that a person was born, grew up, changed my life, and is now dead with the years matching my monastic life.  I'm glad I had my near-death experience because I know he is in a far better place and realizes exactly what "Brokeback Mountain" has done and will continue to do as long as Motion Pictures exist.  He is 'closer' to us now than he was when he was alive. And then there is the really weird (but not unusual) feeling that Jack and Ennis have reunited and their unending love will rock some parallel Universe.

He died on January 22nd, the eve of my second anniversary of viewing the film in a theater.  That night, I started the film at 11:30PM so I could be watching it when my anniversary rolled around.  I've never enjoyed it more.

SO, I send up 'a prayer of thanks' and close with a screen-cap of Ennis doing the same thing.  I recognize the ecstasy..  I've been there...
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: injest on January 27, 2008, 08:58:55 am
I need some catharsis so.. for what it's worth...

In another parallel existence these characters whose lives have become so alive to us live again.  At first it was just Ennis just appearing in Jack’s dreams, Ennis as he had first seen him that crucial moment when his beat up truck pulled up outside Aguirre’s trailer and they discovered what that summer would hold for them.  Ennis, introducing himself to the man who would forever change their lives. Jack, remembering that first electric moment when their hands touched.  Jack had found himself back on the Mountain with only a fair recollection of how he had reached there.  He was wearing his Blue Corduroy Shirt but found the weather perfect and kept himself occupied with whiskey springs and the wildlife, especially the bluebirds, with their awesome song.  Although he had everything he needed he didn’t feel complete until that one day someone familiar rode up to meet him.  It was Ennis, wearing his Yellow Plaid Shirt and looking young and perky.  They settled down and are still there.  They have no possibility of boredom so every night they experience the power of love that brought them to Brokeback Mountain in the first place.  There’s plenty to eat and they never tire of the unending supply of BetterMost Beans.

Thanks for letting me do this...

while looking for something else yesterday I found this Youtube video Fritz had made on Brokenback Moutain in Wyoming. It is of Rodney reading one of my stories....I did not know they had done it and it was a surprise...but also an odd coincidence I would find it now after so long....

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,16631.msg323722.html#msg323722 (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,16631.msg323722.html#msg323722)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 27, 2008, 12:16:45 pm
while looking for something else yesterday I found this Youtube video Fritz had made on Brokenback Mountain in Wyoming. It is of Rodney reading one of my stories....I did not know they had done it and it was a surprise...but also an odd coincidence I would find it now after so long....

I can't quite see the screen through my tears...   You have to post it again in words  - anywhere on BetterMost.   It is SO poignant.   I am speechless...

But I don't believe in coincidences, these days I believe in miracles...
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: injest on January 27, 2008, 12:25:11 pm
I can't quite see the screen through my tears...   You have to post it again in words  - anywhere on BetterMost.   It is SO poignant.   I am speechless...

But I don't believe in coincidences, these days I believe in miracles...

thank YOU...I am not comfortable with my writing, dont' feel like I am in the same league as the other writers here..but I try..

Posted it here

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,16663.0.html (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,16663.0.html)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 27, 2008, 12:33:56 pm
thank YOU...I am not comfortable with my writing, dont' feel like I am in the same league as the other writers here..but I try..

Other's try - you succeeded~!  And you caught me.  I was looking at some Fan-Art Milli had made after posting the cathartic story.  Jack's shirt is DENIM and it has been corrected..  THANKS~!

{{{Cyberhugs}}}  RIP Heath

br. p

PS, have I told you that your story has me crying like a baby?   Tears of pure joy..  I wish that somehow it could be added to the film...
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Post by: Shasta542 on January 27, 2008, 12:46:26 pm
Br. Patrick,

Just to let you know (publicly) that your words have comforted me so much. You never know what will get through to whom, so I'm glad there are so many different people at Bettermost who offer words of comfort and advice. While some help one person, others help another. I'm sure you have done a service to all of us Brokies by letting us in on the spiritual revelations that you've experienced over the past week. I am so grateful to you. You have helped me move toward peace in my heart.

{{{{{{{{{{BR. Patrick}}}}}}}}}}
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 27, 2008, 02:32:22 pm
Br. Patrick,
Just to let you know (publicly) that your words have comforted me so much.


Thanks for doing this (publicly, which took courage) because it matters to me to have the people who keep up with this thread know what is really going on with each of us on our own journeys.

Your 'comfort' has been returned to me a hundred-fold..  That's how it works~!   You just can't outgive the One Who Is~!


{{{{{{{{Shasta}}}}}}}}  RIP Heath    :-*

Love,
br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on January 31, 2008, 12:09:47 pm
To Daniel via Milli, Sharon Amber and US...

This one is great - Milli!

Which one can not hold,
one should release!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on February 03, 2008, 01:25:22 pm

     Hey my dear friend.  I am so thankful to have you to visit, and sit on your porch.  Kick back and
have a cyber cup of coffee with.  I cant have the real thing because i gave that up, in solidarity with
Scott stopping smoking.  But a cyber cup would be ok.  Maybe it will be one of those things like
sugar, it transforms everything into a special treat when it is added.  Maybe that is what coffee from
cyber space becomes.  A healthy wonderous thing......but i digress
     Thank you for being there for all of us.  Me and my friends.  I love you, dear dear man. 

                           (http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb162/ifyoucantfixit/Coffee_steams_3.gif)

                                                                                                                  janice
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on February 06, 2008, 02:50:57 pm

       Hey friend, I am missing you around here.  I hope you are doing well.  And please
don't worry yourself about the things you dint feel up to doing.  Do what you wish,
and to heck with the rest.
        You are a joy and an inspiration, and don't ever feel any different.  We need you
here and know that you are tired and its sometimes difficult to do other than the regular
everyday stuff.
        O how sorry i am to have asked you to do something that is hard on. you to do.
I will remember better from now on.  I hope you are well now........i am hoping you are
ok .. let me know how you are doing.  I feel responsible for you feeling badly.
                                                              friend forever.      janice
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Post by: loneleeb3 on February 06, 2008, 03:06:30 pm
(http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12709.0;attach=16514;image)

Thank you for posting this picture.
I love it. One of my favorite scenes in the whole Movie.
I loved it the rare brief glimpses of Ennis enraptured in pure unadulterated Joy!
That is how I want to remember.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on February 07, 2008, 04:01:26 am
       Hey friend, I am missing you around here.  I hope you are doing well.  And please
don't worry yourself about the things you dint feel up to doing.  Do what you wish,
and to heck with the rest.
        You are a joy and an inspiration, and don't ever feel any different.  We need you
here and know that you are tired and its sometimes difficult to do other than the regular
everyday stuff.
        O how sorry i am to have asked you to do something that is hard on. you to do.
I will remember better from now on.  I hope you are well now........i am hoping you are
ok .. let me know how you are doing.  I feel responsible for you feeling badly.
                                                              friend forever.      janice

Yikes~!

I'm not that bad, really, just a little shaken up.  I told you in private email that this wasn't YOUR fault and it ISN'T.   Things are working as they should..   There are no more 'accidents' for me anymore.

Thanks for caring, my dear butterfly and remember this if nothing else...

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on February 08, 2008, 06:55:44 am
Thank you for posting this picture.

There is something that is downright Mystical in this screen cap.  Thanks to Photoshop and people like LauraGigs here who have me using the program more than ever, I was astonished to see this happen right in front of me.   This frame was REALLY dark in the screen cap~!  It was something of a Miracle to see what happened with just a simple adjustment.  Details and Colors popped out that I didn't even know were there..  Something in me thinks Heath himself had something to do with this in order to share HIS Ecstasy~!  After all, I KNOW he is aware of US...

{{{Cyberhugs}}} RIP Heath     ::)


br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on February 14, 2008, 04:35:15 am



                                   HAPPY VALENTINES  BRO PATRICK       



                                             (http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb162/ifyoucantfixit/friend_happy_valentine_hedgehog_300.gif)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on February 14, 2008, 06:08:23 am
Happy Valentine's Day Everybody~!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on February 14, 2008, 09:43:45 am
Happy Valentines Day Friend,
Stay warm and peaceful!  :-*
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on February 14, 2008, 06:45:44 pm

Upon this rosy pink streaked Dawn I sang,
And gloried in the moments of Desire.
For from the waters of Passion I drank,
And stilled there in that instant, in the Fire.
And though blue Brilliance sought to conquer me
Resistant to its Charms I did remain.
And wondered there I of Eternity -
What Holy Moment made this special day?
What death or life gives it Significance
And strues the Blessed Cycle of the year?
That makes a Heart of Man to deeply dance -
Ignite the lightning Fusion that is there.
The Holiday that thrills this heart of mine,
Can only be this day: St. Valentine's!

Happy St. Valentine's Day.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on February 16, 2008, 04:45:48 am
What Day of the week were you born on?

Monday's child is fair of face.
Tuesday's child is full of grace.
Wednesday's child is full of woe.
Thursday's child has far to go.
Friday's child is loving and giving.
Saturday's child works hard for a living.
And the child that is born on the Sabbath Day
is bonny and blithe, and good and gay.

-Anonymous

Bonny: Attractive or Substantial???
Blithe: Carefree or Unthinking???  Duh..

Yup, I was born on a Sunday morning at 10:30AM..

We have to think up a better rhyme for Wednesday's child.  Like a doe?
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shasta542 on February 16, 2008, 04:19:49 pm
Good day, Br. Patrick!

I was born on a rainy Saturday -- I wouldn't say I work HARD, as in physically, but I work A LOT -- and it is sometimes draining, so yeah. I'm Saturday's child. I want to be one of the more FUN days! LOL. Not Wednesday, tho.  :P  ;D

Hope you enjoy the weekend, friend!
 
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on February 16, 2008, 05:52:25 pm
Ron Paul, 2008!

Sorry, I had to distance myself from the McCain advertisement somehow.

I was born on either Wednesday or Thursday, I'll have to call and ask my mom sometime.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on February 17, 2008, 01:29:00 pm
I was born on either Wednesday or Thursday, I'll have to call and ask my mom sometime.

http://www.wsu.edu/~cmb/phpicalendar/day.php?cal=all_calendars_combined971&getdate=19540228

That's for mine, you'll find yours there as well..

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on February 17, 2008, 01:41:01 pm
Good day, Br. Patrick!

I was born on a rainy Saturday -- I wouldn't say I work HARD, as in physically, but I work A LOT -- and it is sometimes draining, so yeah. I'm Saturday's child. I want to be one of the more FUN days! LOL. Not Wednesday, tho.  :P  ;D

Hope you enjoy the weekend, friend!
 

Maybe if you go to the URL posted above for all, you can put your 'time' of birth into another "Time Zone" on the planet..  and maybe wind up on SUNDAY~!   WHEE..

{{{Cyberjugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shasta542 on February 17, 2008, 01:44:49 pm
Maybe if you go to the URL posted above for all, you can put your 'time' of birth into another "Time Zone" on the planet..  and maybe wind up on SUNDAY~!   WHEE..

{{{Cyberjugs}}}

br. p

 :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh: Then I wouldn't have to work so much!!!  :P  ;D

I hope you are having a great Sunday, Br. Patrick. I'm getting ready for Monday.  ;)  
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on February 19, 2008, 04:08:28 pm
This is a question that I have been wanting to ask for ages..   Has anybody else out there following along had a near-death experience or any uplifting Spiritual experiences???

Many of the people I've talked to in RL (real life) report amazing similarities~!

Come on in.. the water's fine~!

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on February 19, 2008, 06:26:44 pm
I shared mine on my personal thread, but linked to it from here already... :)

There is also the Aurora Phantasy though... which I managed to capture in poem form. I may eventually post it here, with your kind permission.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: moremojo on February 20, 2008, 12:13:33 pm
This is a question that I have been wanting to ask for ages..   Has anybody else out there following along had a near-death experience or any uplifting Spiritual experiences???
I've had one vivid experience that could be described as out of the ordinary; here is a link to an earlier post in which I describe this:

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,8840.msg173478.html#msg173478 (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,8840.msg173478.html#msg173478)

My mother has had one near-death/out-of-body experience, as well as seeing apparitions and sensing unseen presences. My late maternal grandfather told family members that he had had a near-death experience while in the hospital before he returned home to die, and said that Heaven was a beautiful place.
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Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on February 20, 2008, 04:54:19 pm
When I was a child I was laying in bed with my eyes closed but I was still awake. I never heard anyone enter the room but I felt someone sit down on the bed. I was scared and didn't open my eyes. Then I felt the bed go back up and I listed by heard no ffot step. I finally got courage top open my eyes but it was too dark to make out anything.
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Post by: Artiste on February 20, 2008, 09:33:07 pm
Interesting Gary!

Did you ever seem to raise above your bed or out of your body somewhat?? Any time then or at other times? Just wonder... as I used to do so!! My brother tells me NEVER to take yourself OUT of your body TOTALLY!!

Be assured that I am very happy that you are with us, here on Earth and in Heaven!!

Hugs!
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Post by: Artiste on February 20, 2008, 10:17:03 pm
Thanks Gary!

Ok, so that was your experience.

You never had some out-of-body-nearly experiences OFTEN after that??

Or anyone else did?

Hugs!
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Post by: Br. Patrick on February 21, 2008, 11:30:27 pm
There is also the Aurora Phantasy though... which I managed to capture in poem form. I may eventually post it here, with your kind permission.

You are so very welcome here.  Please post whatever you want whenever you want.  (The One Who Is mentions this guy by name and he is asking MY permission?   :-\ )

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
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Post by: Br. Patrick on February 22, 2008, 05:18:55 am
I've had one vivid experience that could be described as out of the ordinary:  CAT~!

My mother has had one near-death/out-of-body experience, as well as seeing apparitions and sensing unseen presences. My late maternal grandfather told family members that he had had a near-death experience while in the hospital before he returned home to die, and said that Heaven was a beautiful place.

I am learning more and more each day how what we perceive as 'reality' is incredibly limited.  I think your cat is somewhere, waiting for you!

Since 1976 I was given the 'ability' to perceive some of that which coexists along with us but we are unaware of.  In 1976 I was incredibly frightened and learned to be careful what I pray for~!  Now, I still see 'ministering spirits' mostly good but an unfriendly pops in my sight once in a while.  In the bible, these are called Thrones and Dominations, Principalities and Powers.  That means to me (from my experience) that they are on differing levels of development..  Kind of like comparing the rest of us with Daniel.  ;)

But the important thing is that they all have free will and do what they want.    And they co-exist in a way that is probably best expressed as 'right along with us..' maybe a few degrees of phase shift or something.  I do think they are more aware of us then most of us are of them.   And once in a while, a ministering spirit (they look like STARS * ) blinks in and uplifts my spirit.  I think that they are the lowest (next to us) on the Totem Pole.   A few weeks ago I was talking to my cousin in Oregon and saw dozens~!  She was in a bad way and I believe she needed the comfort (she got it through me) I got it through them.   Now, why didn't they just show up around her instead of going through me?  I think it is because my 'essence' is now so much more open to new Spiritual experiences.

A long time ago, in a galaxy far away (well 1975) I had a born again experience.  The next year I was baptized in the Spirit and was up near the ceiling.  Even though I am EONS away theologically from where I was then, I know I experienced an out of body experience along with a little Ecstasy thrown in for good measure.

I know your mother was right! And I think anyone can develop these abilities through prayer, meditation or (a new one) 'just remaining in the moment, silently' and all will be able to perceive more than our eyes or ears can by themselves.

And your grandfather was sure right on with the experience of Heaven being a beautiful place.   Been there, done that, printed the Tee Shirt.

We're gonna have the time of our lives.  Can you imagine living without the ability to become bored?   That doesn't even come close but I'm opening up in ways that I never thought I would be able to.

{{{Cyberhugs}}} and what a great family.  Your genetics tell me you'll experience the same things.. sooner than you think, I would guess~!  (I'm NOT saying your dying.. the other stuff and MORE)

br. p
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Post by: Br. Patrick on February 22, 2008, 05:24:58 am
When I was a child I was laying in bed with my eyes closed but I was still awake. I never heard anyone enter the room but I felt someone sit down on the bed. I was scared and didn't open my eyes. Then I felt the bed go back up and I listed by heard no ffot step. I finally got courage top open my eyes but it was too dark to make out anything.

I had a similar experience when I was a teenager.   I had taken enough LSD for 4 people and had a really bad trip!  When I finally came down and was just resting, face down, the door opened downstairs and someone walked up and touched me.  I knew the person but just laid there and experienced it.  The person was my mother who had left that house 12 years before and wouldn't EVER go back in.  It was just what I needed at the time.

From where I'm at now, I don't think it was my mother, it was a ministering spirit in human form..  (angels unaware..)

{{{Cyberjugs}}}

br. p
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Post by: Br. Patrick on March 04, 2008, 08:57:06 am
Truman and I have been discussing Genealogies in Private Messages.   I want to post here what I told him after he asked about my 'other' half.  (On my Dad's side I'm mostly Irish)

...
My mom was 100% Croatian (She was born here, her parents are from Zagreb, Yugoslavia).  My grandmother (who died when my mom was 7) had two husbands.  They had 5 children; 2 who died when very young.  Then she married my grandfather.  After my mom died and I did a genealogy, I took my aunt up to Escanaba, Mich. to find out stuff.  My grandmother was buried along with everyone else with a large tombstone that showed only the family name - Sabor.  Now the cemetery records had burned so there was no way I could be sure that this was the right spot.  I took Polaroids of the tombstone, then dropped the camera.  While I was on the ground I noticed that under a bush, next to the big headstone were two with the children's names on them.  SO they kind of reached out and let me know....

But the best is about my grandfather Tom Trcak, who died when my mom was two.  I was told that he was buried in the pauper section of the cemetery and that he had a wooden cross.  I found the spot, noticed a cross, so I parked and walked over to the section.  The cross was metal and was not my grandfather.   This section of the cemetery was really dark.  A really big evergreen tree shaded the area almost into darkness.  As I started back to the car, I realized that my grandfather was there somewhere, so I said a little prayer.  All of a sudden I just stopped and behold! A beam of sunlight illuminated a ground type tombstone.  On it was "Tom Trcak, 1864-1925."  It was my grandfather!  I took a picture and even though it is dark but you can still tell that it is illuminated by a beam of sunlight.  SO he kind of reached 'up' and grabbed me to say "HI~!"

I have had many mystical experiences in cemeteries over the years.  But how my grandparents let me know they were there is the best story I have.
...

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p

Here's proof...   (You can see the letters and numbers two ways.  They can be seen as indented or, (what's the word..) sticking OUT.)
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Post by: Br. Patrick on March 17, 2008, 07:38:06 am
Somewhere over the rainbow..

Oops, I meant somewhere on BetterMost I posted a reply to Lynne, I think, about "Cloud Mountains."   They can look a whole lot better than this and they look more real when you are 20 miles away.  Anyway, here is 'something' to the effect of "Cloud Mountains"
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Post by: Daniel on March 17, 2008, 09:08:39 am
Happy St. Patrick's Day, Brother Patrick! :)
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Post by: Br. Patrick on March 17, 2008, 10:06:07 am
Happy St. Patrick's Day, Brother Patrick! :)

Thanks~!  Tis a grand day to be 3/8ths Irish..

How about posting the Aurora Phantasy Poem.  I am sure we all would like to devour it~!

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p

Happy St. Patrick's Day to everyone~!
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Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on March 17, 2008, 10:51:14 am
Happy St. Patrick's Day Brother O'Shea!
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Post by: Daniel on March 17, 2008, 06:29:01 pm
Oh, I almost forgot about that one... the Aurora Phantasy poem, I mean.

Actually, to clarify, I did forget about it... but here it is anyway.

The Dawn is coming, Aurora
in lovely shades of pink and blue,
wisps of cloud hovering over the rooftops,
golden light filtering through my window,
the trees swaying in the breeze (I wish them well),
the birds flying amongst branch and fencepost,
roof and wall, heart and soul.

A feeling of wonder begins to come over me.
This is the Aurora Phantasy.
This is the dream of new hope,
of love without question,
the desire for rebirth and renewal,
the chance for a new life.
Forgiveness, eternal and divine, unwarranted, undeserved.
This is the Universal Spirit calling out and saying:

"You are special.
You have a place in the Cosmos.
You are unique and your uniqueness
means more to me than any other person can recognize.
I understand you so well,
you are the child of my heart.
Every idea you have,
I have comprehended from the beginning.
I know your hopes and fears,
your dreams and nightmares.
I have loved those you loved,
and those you hated too.
Little did you realize,
it was through you I loved them.
The spirit within you is strong.
It bursts like light from the midday sun,
fills the room with golden light
It fills my ears with song."

"Few realize that my perception of you
is as great as, if not greater than
your perception of me.
I know your strengths, your weaknesses
and have accepted them unto myself.
Your strengths have empowered the Universe.
Your weaknesses have been absolved.
Beauty and harmony unite within you.
You are perfect in your imperfection.
What is so great about that, you ask?
All things imperfect strive for perfection.
They are incomplete works,
and so I work through you,
and make all things perfect.
The Spirit is willing - come with me.
Come feel the life and vitality of the Sun.
Come adventure the new day.
Do things not yet done.
Embrace light, love, laughter, joy.
Embrace your fellow man.
Bring brightness and beauty to a benign world
and watch the darkness wane.
This is Your Light, Your Beauty
which makes the darkness flee.
So you should learn to trust yourself,
while you're trusting me.
The world would be a darker place,
if not for your inner light
- with hundreds of thousands just like you,
which make the world quite bright.
And without your light, I could not see.
As without mine, you could not.
But in betwixt the two of us,
and several billion more.
We see more colors and more beauty than anyone has before."

"And so my child, accept your dreams,
for Life is much more than it seems.
Find your path, find your light.
Learn to look with inner sight.
Hope and dream, love and nurture,
Share with others of your nature.
Laugh and cry, live and learn.
All things come upon their turn.
Be strengthened by your sorrows.
Be fortified by aches and pains.
Be nourished by thine difficulties
and energized when you drain.
This is the Way things are.
All things in flux.
All opportunities given.
All weaknesses strengthened.
All illnesses cured.
All arguments and wars ended.
All things in store."

Dearest Aurora,
the sun has risen.
Its while light now fills the sky.
Your heart is as glorious as the new Dawn.
It lights my soul like a lamp in a cave of rose quartz.
Your beauty is immaculate.
Spread it where you will.
I trust the Universal Spirit.

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Post by: Br. Patrick on March 18, 2008, 06:16:51 am
"Few realize that my perception of you
is as great as, if not greater than
your perception of me.

_I_ realize it~!  The One Who Is called you by NAME~!

Your awesome prose seems to fit with my favorite (so far) picture of a sunrise here in Kenosha, Wisconsin...
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Post by: Artiste on March 18, 2008, 06:29:52 pm
Great sunset!

Thanks!

That gives me an idea to create such a sunset sky in one of my next paintings I will create!

Sure wish I could like the Infinity does!!

Keep care,
hugs!
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Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on March 20, 2008, 07:51:02 am
Br. Patrick thank you so much for the k.d. lang dvd. I watched all of it again last night, and was struck how t times she looks like Jake Gyllenhaal and sometimes like Kevin Spacey. Dng she can sing. When I think of how she snaped out of her industrial grundge punk phase I am so glad she did. What a waste of talent she could have been otherwise.


Hope you have a wonderful day.
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Post by: Br. Patrick on March 20, 2008, 08:40:49 am
The Dawn is coming, Aurora
in lovely shades of pink and blue,
wisps of cloud hovering over the rooftops,
golden light filtering through my window,
the trees swaying in the breeze (I wish them well),
the birds flying amongst branch and fencepost,
roof and wall, heart and soul.
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Post by: Br. Patrick on March 20, 2008, 08:47:47 am
Hope you have a wonderful day.

I am, I am~!

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Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on March 20, 2008, 09:04:21 am
I remember well the only time I have seen the northern lights.

We were outside, it was in cold weather and thought a house must be on fire nearby so we set out to see other peoples misery.

It always seemed to be just over the next hill, over the next rise, had to be. The idea of a fire passed out of mind but what was it? Finally we got to a place we could make out some undulating in the light in the shimmering red and it went on like a light bulb, it was the northern lights, this far south.

I remember my father talking about seeing them, back in the 1920s, perhaps it was the last time they had reached this far south. I wondered about the sound they made on the electromagnetic scale, and if someone at a polar station was listening to them.

It was a warm night and we got out and leaned against the front of the truck, and took in the show for a good while.  :)
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Post by: Br. Patrick on March 20, 2008, 02:58:23 pm
I remember well the only time I have seen the northern lights.

It was a warm night and we got out and leaned against the front of the truck, and took in the show for a good while.  :)

The only time I have seen the Northern Lights was when I must have been about 10.  I grew up on a farm and my best friend & I watched the intense~! show until his parents made him go in for the night.  It must have been autumn because I remember I was wearing a light jacket.  Nobody cared how long I stayed up so I went into the field across the road from our farm and laid on the ground ..  for hours...   I was 10 in 1964 so maybe that is when you saw them too?

It was an intense visual display and I have never seen anything like it since.   At one point it looked as if 'someone' dumped a pail of red paint in the eastern sky and it 'spilled' rapidly to the west.  From what I understand 'red' is an unusual color for the aurora.  So the pictures above would be considered unusual.  Below is a more common manifestation of the lights.

I can definitely say that for me it was a Peak Spiritual Experience~!

{{{Cyberhugs}}} and I'm so glad you appreciate the VHS dub...

br. p
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Post by: Lynne on March 20, 2008, 08:52:25 pm
Tell me about this kdlang video - i can find it at Netflix, maybe.  She's on tour right now for a new CD that looks terrific - I think I may have already missed the Seattle show.

Great pictures of the Northern Lights, too.  I've never seen them - maybe one day?

Love,
Lynne
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Post by: ifyoucantfixit on March 22, 2008, 03:09:46 am





                 HAPPY EASTER BRO PATRICK...   

                                     

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Post by: Br. Patrick on March 24, 2008, 07:42:01 am
!~Happy Easter To Everyone~!
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Post by: Br. Patrick on March 24, 2008, 07:55:16 am
Tell me about this kdlang video - i can find it at Netflix, maybe

It's callled k.d. lang "Live By Request" and was cablecast on December 14, 2000 on the A&E Network.

It's available on DVD..     (PM me)

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
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Post by: Daniel on April 01, 2008, 02:25:11 am
The Perfect Prayer works again....

Well It's 1 AM right now... Can't sleep. Before I went to bed tonight, though, I prayed the modified perfect prayer, which I had accidentally done so long ago and experienced near immediate results.

The Modified Perfect Prayer.

Engineer my circumstances, Lord, according to your will.
Engineer my circumstances, Lord, according to your will.
Engineer my circumstances, Lord, according to your will, but please... do it quickly.

For the next four hours I tossed and turned in bed with one clear thought running through my head. I need to quit my job. It has become a major source of unhappiness in my life, draining soul, energy, and time away from me. Granted, it has provided some income; but like a friend of mine said, its easy enough (usually) to find income anywhere, even if it is only for eight weeks at a time. In any case, money is not the most important thing in the world, and I don't see any reason why I should continue to sacrifice everything else about myself in order to pay bills and remain in a situation where I am becoming increasingly unhappy. I was happier before there, but over the years, either my mind or the location has changed, and it no longer is a source of happiness, interest, or intrigue, but instead just the opposite.

I have no idea what I am going to be doing, because I don't really have the money right now to go into what I really want to do.... but I know I won't be there anymore, in a short period, and I will once again experience the happy freedom and noble uncertainty of unemployment. Strangely enough, I have no doubt in my mind that this itching or calling if you will resulted from that prayer, and now I am making the changes necessary to make certain that it comes to fruition.

But I think I have learned to let go of my circumstances, over the years, even if I didn't know precisely that's what I was doing, and not try to cling to them because that is the way they have always been done. I have always been one in favor of self-improvement, through whatever means... usually through the adventures of life, and our interactions with other persons, and embracing adventure means letting go of the safe and familiar.  Letting Go and Letting God has helped me in other occasions as well, so why not here?  And knowing the way this works now, since it has happened twice now, leaves me to believe that my life has a plan of some sort, in the works, even if I'm not entirely certain what it is.

Love and light,
Daniel.
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Post by: Br. Patrick on April 02, 2008, 11:28:48 am
The Perfect Prayer works again....

Engineer my circumstances, Lord, according to your will.
Engineer my circumstances, Lord, according to your will.
Engineer my circumstances, Lord, according to your will, but please... do it quickly.

I think I have learned to let go of my circumstances, over the years, even if I didn't know precisely that's what I was doing, and not try to cling to them because that is the way they have always been done. I have always been one in favor of self-improvement, through whatever means... usually through the adventures of life, and our interactions with other persons, and embracing adventure means letting go of the safe and familiar.  Letting Go and Letting God has helped me in other occasions as well, so why not here?  And knowing the way this works now, since it has happened twice now, leaves me to believe that my life has a plan of some sort, in the works, even if I'm not entirely certain what it is.

Love and light,
Daniel.

Remember that I told you that your life would be "reversed engineered" to prepare you for this.  To me, you just dotted the "i" and crossed the "t's"~! 

Another thing about you that comes out prominently in your Aurora Phantasy.  You definitely have some of what I have begun to call "the Divine" in you.  I know two other people that have it too.  It's a special quality that shares much with our Creator.  The other two people are an old couple from church that are so in love with each other that it makes me speechless.   Your intellect 'spills and overflows' from your words in exactly the same kind of way. 

Be grateful.  You ARE blessed..  but you knew that already, didn't you?   And what plans there are for you!  (I can say this from experience~!)

Light & Love

br. p
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Post by: Lumière on April 03, 2008, 01:16:24 am
Hey Br. P.

Checking in to say howdy and see how you're doing, bud.  :)

Hugs your way,
~M
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Post by: Br. Patrick on April 03, 2008, 09:44:47 am
Hey Br. P.

Checking in to say howdy and see how you're doing, bud.  :)

Hugs your way,
~M

I'm having a better one now that I got your message.   I really miss you around here..  Up for more DVDs?

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
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Post by: Lumière on April 07, 2008, 01:57:22 pm
I'm having a better one now that I got your message.   I really miss you around here.. Up for more DVDs?

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p

More DVDs..?
Sounds kool!  ;)
Which new movies have you been enjoying lately?
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Post by: Br. Patrick on April 08, 2008, 12:42:03 am
Which new movies have you been enjoying lately?

A great sad little film called "johns" and Canada's own "k.d. lang - Live By Request."  I'll PM you..

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
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Post by: Lynne on April 15, 2008, 01:53:04 pm
Hey there, Brother Patrick!  I received the kd lang CD and Johns - Thank you!!!  I saved the movie for this week.   ;)

If you're around for a chat tomorrow (Wednesday, around 5 Pacific/7 Central) I'd love to see you!  Otherwise, PM me a good time for you.  We need to catch up.  I'm missing you.

 :-*
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Post by: Lumière on April 23, 2008, 07:04:29 pm
Hey P!

I just wanted to let you know that...
I got them!!

Can't wait to pop them in & check 'em out.

Many thanks to ya bud.  :-*
Hugs,
~M
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Post by: Br. Patrick on April 25, 2008, 12:24:52 pm
Hey P!

I just wanted to let you know that...
I got them!!


You know there is this long history of monks and hermits and copying things.  We wouldn't have the wisdom of the ancients; Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, etc., if it were not for monks back in those dark ages when very few people could even read.  And the workmanship they put into their work is instantly noticeable.  They would illustrate their pages with elaborate artwork., something you might want to check out.

Here is an old 'woodcut' of a monk copying  -  one hand traces and the other hand copies.   (Most couldn't read what they were copying~!)

{{{Cyberhugs}}}   :-*

br. p
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Post by: optom3 on May 30, 2008, 12:24:39 am
I clicked on this thread by accident,except I suspect it probably was anything but.
There is an immense amount of information to read and process.  I now need to go away and mull it over.
I was baptised a Catholic, and though have never had a conscious near death experience,both myself and eldest son were very close to death,when he was born,by emergency section.An event which was precipitated by another non coincidence.So I do feel we were both saved.
Yet I also know beyond any shadow of doubt,that I have been in the presence of evil.This event preceeded the "saved" experience.
I had to drive as if my wheels were on fire,until I reached a church,which I knew inctively would be the only place I would be safe.(odd as I had not set foot in a church in years)
As soon as I hurled myself into the grounds,literally,I relaxed and the terror left me.
I certainly never,ever want to have that terror again,and it was, complete undiluted terror.I was sober and to this day,I can hardly  bear to recall it.
I discussed the incident with a priest, who shed some light on the matter.I was concerned that it was something within me,but the explanation he gave was more plausible.
I have to really think now,how I am going to process all this information, and how it fits into my life.
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Post by: Br. Patrick on May 30, 2008, 01:19:09 am
I clicked on this thread by accident,except I suspect it probably was anything but.
There is an immense amount of information to read and process.  I now need to go away and mull it over.
I was baptised a Catholic, and though have never had a conscious near death experience,both myself and eldest son were very close to death,when he was born,by emergency section.An event which was precipitated by another non coincidence.So I do feel we were both saved.
Yet I also know beyond any shadow of doubt,that I have been in the presence of evil.This event preceeded the "saved" experience.
I had to drive as if my wheels were on fire,until I reached a church,which I knew inctively would be the only place I would be safe.(odd as I had not set foot in a church in years)
As soon as I hurled myself into the grounds,literally,I relaxed and the terror left me.
I certainly never,ever want to have that terror again,and it was, complete undiluted terror.I was sober and to this day,I can hardly  bear to recall it.
I discussed the incident with a priest, who shed some light on the matter.I was concerned that it was something within me,but the explanation he gave was more plausible.
I have to really think now,how I am going to process all this information, and how it fits into my life.

Welcome!  And feel free to comment on anything.   I too have been in the presense of Evil.  Spiritually, I call the 'small' ones 'unfriendly's' and I utterly ignore them because they have no power over me and they know it.   There is so much more going on around us than we perceive with our senses.   I can perceive the spiritual realm, which is both a blessing and a curse.  If I sense an 'unfriendly' I do a 'Glinda' on them..  "you have no power here!  Begone! before someone drops a house on you too!"  And they split - pronto.  But it sounds like you are talking about a REALLY unfriendly.

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on July 06, 2008, 09:46:36 pm
Hi there, Brother Patrick!  Thank you for sending me Kiss Me Guido!  I watched it yesterday - one of the *last* things I got to watch before my laptop DVD player gave up on me.  I shouldn't complain considering how much use I got out of it!

I thought Kiss Me Guido was a lot of fun...all those New York/Italian...I mean Sicilian/Gay/Actor stereotypes going on!  I think it's time to rewatch Latter Days, tho...been missing my Christian and Aaron.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVVar6q_lQg[/youtube]
Ow....

 :D :D 8) 8) :-* :-*
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on July 06, 2008, 10:18:19 pm
Yes, I received mine as well... A cute film. I remember watching it on Logo a long time ago.... But definitely not as good as Latter Days... Lynne.... where have you been. I've been sending you stuff in the PM and you haven't responded yet! I'm still waiting to send you all Part 2.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on July 06, 2008, 10:40:08 pm
Hey there, Daniel...I am very sorry.  I have been offline for about a week.  RouxB and Amanda visited Elle and me in Seattle last weekend, then I had a bunch of computer and internet problems.  I wasn't even getting the email notices I usually get when I get PMs, so I'm just seeing yours tonight.  Hang in there and don't give up on me.  I will write soon.

P.S.  I caught up on Luke and Noah right after the other women headed home...can't remember if I posted in the thread or not, but I'm up to speed again and not happy about anything there, as has become usual.  And why do I think this is strange considering it's a soap-opera!??!  Those guys need their own show.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on July 07, 2008, 05:54:40 am
Hi there, Brother Patrick!  Thank you for sending me Kiss Me Guido!
 :D :D 8) 8) :-* :-*

I wish there WOULD be another film out there as good as Latter Days.   BBM- that's once in a lifetime..

{{{Cyberlove}}}   :-*

Br. Patrick
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on July 07, 2008, 05:59:05 am
I'm still waiting to send you all Part 2.

Milli did get back to me in the midst of our conversations, Daniel.  She wanted to know the name of the film (which you now have).  Seems that she is a bit overwhelmed,  or something.  Hope she's OK!!!

{{{Cyberhugs + Much Prayer}}}

Br. Patrick
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on July 07, 2008, 07:20:30 am
Br. Patrick and others, I'd like to put a plug in for Were the World Mine Paul and myself saw it at the Provincetown Film Festival and know you would enjoy it. It should be released this fall.

Set in an all boys school, doing a production of Shakespears Midsummers Night Dream.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC_Q44P8_m4[/youtube]
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on July 07, 2008, 11:45:11 am
Thanks, Truman.  I will put it on my list for this fall.  I love A Midsummer Night's Dream!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on July 07, 2008, 12:35:25 pm
You ever seen that on from the 30s with Mickey Rooney as Puc?

I saw that once and thought "if my Granny went to the movies and saw this she wouldn't have understood one bit of it."  :D
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on July 08, 2008, 06:59:25 am
You ever seen that on from the 30s with Mickey Rooney as Puc?

I saw that once and thought "if my Granny went to the movies and saw this she wouldn't have understood one bit of it."  :D

Great to hear from you~!

Mickey Rooney was just a kid in 1935 when he made "A Midsummers Night Dream"..  He makes one jolly lil' Puc.

It IS Shakespeare so it's hard on the ears of modern English speakers.


{{{CYBERHUGS}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on July 08, 2008, 05:42:32 pm
I have no problem with Shakespearean English, so long as it is enunciated clearly. In fact, I rather enjoy it.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on July 10, 2008, 03:48:37 am
I have no problem with Shakespearean English, so long as it is enunciated clearly. In fact, I rather enjoy it.

That's probably because you have more brain-power than 9/10 of the population of the Earth..

{{{Cyberugs - I mean Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lumière on August 01, 2008, 05:38:30 pm

*waves to Br. P.*
How's it going, my friend?  :)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on August 02, 2008, 06:41:21 am
*waves to Br. P.*
How's it going, my friend?  :)

Good, my dear girl.   I'm getting ready to celebrate the anniversary of my near-death experiences of August 6-15, 2007.   Hope 'ya got your present..

BTW, have you found your light yet???   :-*

{{{  ~M   }}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lumière on August 07, 2008, 12:07:01 pm

Hey P,

I got it!!
Thank you very much, my friend.
Can't wait to check it out.

 :-*

~M

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on August 09, 2008, 01:46:36 am
A Meditation (Author Unknown)

You are mine, and I love you.
Before you could even think or breathe,
I knew you and I love you.
You mean that much to me
That I know you and call you by your name.
If you remember only one thing, let it be this:
I will never forget you.
I will never abandon you
Because you are mine, and I love you.
I am always faithful, even when you are unfaithful
And when you are unfaithful,
I forgive you — again, and again, and again.

I accept you as you are right now.
I accept you, not despite, but with your past.
But I also want you to be more.
It makes me sad when you're not your real self-
When you choose to compromise, or be phoney, or play games
or be a pleaser.

So I challenge you to accept yourself —
Your real self with all its Strength and weakness,
With all its holiness and sinfulness,
With all its joy and sadness.
Accept it all as I accept you.
But strive to be your best self,
Your real self,
Your free self.

And if you find yourself hating your brother, pause and ask,
"Why do I hate myself?"
And if you find yourself being intolerant of those around you,
Pause and try to be a little more tolerant of yourself.
And if you find it hard to forgive those around you,
Why can't you forgive yourself?

Please realize that struggle and pain
Are the only real avenues to growth.
Be patient and hopeful in your struggle
And try to understand the struggle of your brother.

That good Samaritan, you know? That's you.
That story my Son, Jesus, told you
Means that you have to get outside of yourself
And respond to the needs of others.
And you have to care enough about yourself
So that you can really care for others.

You know, there'll be times when
Everything seems to be crumbling down before you.
At those times, remember this:
Is there someone in your life who really loves you?
I love you more!

Is there someone who really listens to you?
I live in your heart!
Is there someone who really understands you?
I understand better than you understand yourself!

So don't ever give up.
Rather, give in!
Give in to me!
I promise I will do so much for you.
Please, please, let me in.
Let me love.
Let me set you free.

Engineer my circumstances, O Lord, according to Your Will
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on August 10, 2008, 08:48:46 am
Hey Brother Patrick, I was thinking it had been a year since your near death experence. I should go for another hike to mark the ocassion. How is Polly by the way?

Thank kew for sharing your experences with us, I say your prayer from time to time, saying the words helps me accept the reality of situations.

Hope your health is good and you get to spend lots of time out doors.

Your Friend, Truman
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on August 11, 2008, 12:53:01 am
Hey Brother Patrick, I was thinking it had been a year since your near death experence. I should go for another hike to mark the ocassion. How is Polly by the way?

Thank kew for sharing your experences with us, I say your prayer from time to time, saying the words helps me accept the reality of situations.

Hope your health is good and you get to spend lots of time out doors.

Your Friend, Truman

I'm doing all sorts of celebrating this week!  On June 23, while in prayer, I was told a SECRET which will be shared with you all once it happens.   Polly is really busy but we keep in touch with email.  How nice of you to ask!  I DO get outside, often to walk down to the beach and photograph sunrises.

{{{   Truman~!   }}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on August 13, 2008, 07:20:10 am
Some Basic Truths:

Seen it.  Done it.  Can't remember most of it.

Everyone has a photographic memory.  Some don't have film.

Save the whales.  Collect a whole set.

A day without sunshine is ..like....night.

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.

I just got lost in thought.  It was unfamiliar territory.

Sometimes I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe.

He's not dead; he's electroencephalographically challenged.

She's always late.  Her ancestors arrived on the Juneflower.

You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.

I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges.

Honk if you love peace & quiet.

Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular?

Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.

Atheism is a non-profit organization.

Sign in an office:
"This job is only a test
had it been an actual job,
you would have received
raises, bonuses and promotions."

Looking for a helping hand? There's one on your arm.



{{{Enjoying my Anniversary immensely   Cyberhugs to all}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on August 13, 2008, 09:02:24 am
LOL, those were good Brother. Enjoy the day.

Crybaby says Meow.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on August 15, 2008, 02:55:23 am
LOL, those were good Brother. Enjoy the day.

Crybaby says Meow.

Thanks~!  A large part of me feels..   HOMESICK~!   Everything was so 'right' there..   :'(

{{{ Cyberhugs to Both of you }}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on August 16, 2008, 09:31:40 am
I like your pics !

That sunset one, looks great!

More?

Keep care,
au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on August 18, 2008, 08:01:48 am
I like your pics !

That sunset one, looks great!

More?

Keep care,
au revoir,
hugs!

Glad you like them.  The Seagulls are getting used to me being around them and fly very close.   But it is REALLY hard to keep the horizon STRAIGHT when I take the pictures.   I had to 'crop' off almost 1/2 of the pic to straighten the horizon.   I guess it is hard for THIS gay person to do ANYTHING Straight!  And since I'm on the West Coast of Lake Michigan (or the East Coast of Wisconsin), these are Sunrise photos.

{{{  HUGS!  Right back 'atcha  }}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on August 18, 2008, 09:02:17 am
Thought I'd do a 'word study' of what my simple but profound prayer was called on the 'Other Side'.
I was told that it was The Perfect Prayer..

"Engineer my circumstances, O Lord, according to Your Will"

PERFECT: Lacking nothing essential to the whole; complete of its nature or kind.  Being without defect or blemish.  Thoroughly skilled or talented in a certain field or area; proficient.  Completely suited for a particular purpose or situation or type.  Accurately reproducing an original.  Complete; thorough; utter.  Pure; undiluted; unmixed.  Excellent and delightful in all respects.   (note from me.. WOW~!)

PRAYER: A reverent petition made to God or another object of worship.  The act of making such a reverent petition.  A specially worded form of address used in petition, worship, devotion or thanksgiving.

{{{ Back on This Side..  }}}  ::)

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on August 18, 2008, 09:16:50 am
Every now and then I have to come back here and read this, to remind me to let go. To accept the zen of being and know I should be more like the trees, and soak up the rain as well as the sunshine. To put out of my mind the constructs and situations I have created that color my world with distractions, blocking my view of what IS.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on August 19, 2008, 03:51:33 am
Pure Poetry..  Whenever I leave my apartment I am instantly aware of the 'REAL' and the "human created" world.  It seems I can block out all things not REAL and just see the trees, the plants, the flowers; feel the air on my face and the fiery heat from the sun.   When I stand on the beach and take pictures, all I see is the REAL.  (Lake Michigan has lost so much water that I am walking out about 40 or 50 feet further from when I moved here in 1997.) So my peripheral vision sees nothing "human" if I look directly at the Lake.  That is REAL cool~!

{{{Cyberhugs & pet your pet for me}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 17, 2008, 09:30:51 pm
Oh Brother, where art thou?  :o
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on September 17, 2008, 09:58:17 pm
 ??? ??? ???
 :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 18, 2008, 02:50:34 am
I am dealing with a couple of very bad things.  Last Friday, my sister-in-law called from Florida to tell me that my 58 year old brother is dying of lung cancer.  The doctors give him six months to two years.

Prayers, Postitive thoughts appreciated!!!    ::)

For the last 3 days my entire spine has been in extreme pain.   I see a pain specialist next tuesday and I have some really strong medicine - but it's not helping much.   I have had a bad back since my back operation in 2001 for a slipped disk.  The whole area is deteriorating.   I can't feel most of my toes on my left foot.   But until yesterday I NEVER had UPPER back pain.  It is so bad it hurts to breathe.  My ribs are moving my vertebrates, I guess.

So say a prayer for my brother Jack and throw one in for me. too..

I gave him the URL of this thread and sent him a copy of BBM.  That will make him make sure all the days he has left will be appreciated, I think.   I told him to watch it with the subtitles on.

I also gave him some general spiritual advice and warnings to distance himself from anything 'occult.'

My oldest brother Bob died in 2000 at 55.

September 22, will be the 20th anniversary of my mom's death, before which, I used to be a normal person...

Thanks for your concern and know your prayers & positive thoughts will be appreciated.

peace :)
br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on September 18, 2008, 09:27:46 pm
Hey there, Brother Patrick,

I'm very sorry to hear what you're dealing with right now, both your brother's illness and your own health.  Your back pain sounds absolutely excruciating.  I wish I could help, make it better somehow.

Prayers, Postitive thoughts appreciated!!!    ::)

Always.

{{{{{{{{{{Patrick}}}}}}}}}}

Lynne
 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 19, 2008, 08:22:10 am
So sorry to hear that Brother Patrick. I will say a prayer for you both. Will you get to visit with him any?

Sometimes you can get a disc replacement, would that help your back?
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 23, 2008, 07:30:21 am
So sorry to hear that Brother Patrick. I will say a prayer for you both. Will you get to visit with him any?

Sometimes you can get a disc replacement, would that help your back?

I'm not well enough myself to consider a trip to Florida at this point.   Funny, my Mom had a disc replaced.   Now, they seem to just 'hack' at them to stop them from compressing nerves.

{{{{{{{Weird News}}}}}}}}}

I just about killed myself over the weekend.   When I woke up groggily to take my morning medications, all that I remember is my mouth seemed extra full.   Turns out I ALMOST did what Heath Ledger DID.  I took a whole bottle of strong pain killers.  The doctors were amazed that it didn't injure me in the least...

Someone's looking out for me...

br. p    ::)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 23, 2008, 08:23:36 am
Man, Brother Patrick, be careful, maybe get you one of those "pill planners" with the compartments in it and you can lay out a weeks worth at a time.

Hope your bother will have many good days. Hope you will too.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 24, 2008, 06:21:41 am
Man, Brother Patrick, be careful, maybe get you one of those "pill planners" with the compartments in it and you can lay out a weeks worth at a time.

Hope your bother will have many good days. Hope you will too.
I do lay my pills out the night before and normally it isn't a problem..  BUT this time, I left a brand new bottle of extra strong pain pills on the counter.   I don't even remember grabbing it.    Sure teaches me a lesson.  And man, oh man, am I hearing it from my doctors!

I wish my brother would email me.  Maybe he's too sick to sit at a computer.  Thanks for reminding me!  Time for Snail Mail...


And on a completely different note:

I used to end my prayers with ....forever and ever, amen.   Ever since my near-death experience, I use the phrase "in the everlasting Now" because it's more accurate.  I did a web search and found this link.   Made me think of all of you.   Made me think of the wisdom of Daniel...

http://pure-research.net/healing/light/eternaln.html

I'm not recommending their site, just this page..

{{{Cyberhugs}}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lumière on October 21, 2008, 01:11:18 pm

Greetings Brother P.,

I was organizing my CDs the other day and when I came across "Loggerheads", I thought of you.  :)
I oughta pop it in the DVD player one of these days for another viewing.


I hope you are doing well my friend.


~M
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on October 21, 2008, 01:28:44 pm
That's a good idea, Milli.  I also have Loggerheads handy.

Hope you're doing well, Brother P.  Check in when you have a chance.

Lynne
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lumière on October 21, 2008, 05:53:07 pm
That's a good idea, Milli.  I also have Loggerheads handy.

...

Excellent. Time for another viewing, Bud.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on October 21, 2008, 11:17:24 pm

   Checking in after a very long spell.  I have been wondering how you've been doing.  I hope you can get better still.l.  I have missed you.  I hope you continue to get better.  I also hope your bro, is better
too .. Bless
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lumière on October 22, 2008, 12:55:51 am

Just a little reminder, P:  ;)

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/Lucise/Fanart/MyMusings/e28a6135.jpg)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on October 23, 2008, 05:01:36 am
I miss checking my email for a couple of days and WOW what a surprise to hear from all of you!   The weird thing is, I have been thinking about watching Loggerheads this very morning.   To me that means we're all still connected in the heart, spirit, dots..,

{{{Cyberhugs}}}   :-* ::) 8)

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on October 23, 2008, 05:10:54 am
Just a little reminder, P:  ;)

~M,
The Cover of Daniel's book is Beautiful.   Would you, could you post a jpg so I could frame it?

{{{Cyberhugs and understandings if you can't}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on October 23, 2008, 07:01:23 am
It's that 'mass of dots' idea, I suspect.  I think the Loggerheads idea must have subconsciously prompted me to go walking by the water yesterday.

I have not yet seen Daniel's book either.  I know he had a trip to NYC recently, but I haven't heard about it yet.  I will PM him.

Love,
Lynne
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lumière on October 23, 2008, 12:42:06 pm
~M,
The Cover of Daniel's book is Beautiful.   Would you, could you post a jpg so I could frame it?

{{{Cyberhugs and understandings if you can't}}}

br. p

Hey P,

Which of Daniel's books?  Dreamfilm?  :)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on October 23, 2008, 10:54:54 pm
Hey P,

Which of Daniel's books?  Dreamfilm?  :)


~M,

Yes, Dreamfilm - Brokeback Mountain Explored by BetterMost Sage Daniel Bates
http://www.amazon.com/Dreamfilm-Brokeback-Mountain-Daniel-Bates/dp/1425750001/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1224816670&sr=8-1


{{{CyberPLUG}}}  ;)

br. p


while I'm plugging, for those unfamiliar with Loggerheads..
http://www.amazon.com/Loggerheads-Bonnie-Hunt/dp/B000E0WJUK/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1224817464&sr=8-1
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lumière on October 27, 2008, 03:09:40 pm

~M,

Yes, Dreamfilm - Brokeback Mountain Explored by BetterMost Sage Daniel Bates
http://www.amazon.com/Dreamfilm-Brokeback-Mountain-Daniel-Bates/dp/1425750001/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1224816670&sr=8-1


I will look into it and send you a PM, Bud.  :)


~M
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Daniel on October 27, 2008, 05:38:31 pm
This is what you're looking for?
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lumière on October 27, 2008, 05:46:51 pm
I believe that is the one.
Cheers Daniel.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on October 28, 2008, 08:35:46 am
This is what you're looking for?

Yup, and thanks.  AND I've sold two copies to the Abbey~!

{{{Cyberhugs to You & ~M}}}

br. p

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on November 09, 2008, 12:36:35 am



    Hi Bro Patrick.  I have been wondering how you are doing these days.  I haven't talked to you in
quite a while.  I have not been around here for quite a long time.  I think of you often and wonder
how you are feeling.  Janice
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on November 10, 2008, 05:19:59 am
  Hi Bro Patrick.  I have been wondering how you are doing these days.  I haven't talked to you in
quite a while.  I have not been around here for quite a long time.  I think of you often and wonder
how you are feeling.  Janice

My Butterfly,

I guess that I'm getting old.  My back is going out way more than I do.  Tomorrow I go in for an injection to the affected nerves.  I have to take a cab to and from the hospital because they give me a lollypop with a narcotic in it.  Actiq is what it's called.  Then, on December 4, I have outpatient oral surgery to remove two back teeth that DON'T hurt; but they keep giving me infections.  Last time I had teeth pulled was July 20th, 2007 and my near-death experiences happened a month later.  So, maybe the One Who Is has a treat in store for me~!

Rest assured that I will be remembering Weldon in my prayers on November 20th.

{{{{{   Janice   }}}}}   :-*

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on November 10, 2008, 03:34:58 pm
Bonjour Patrick !

C'est un plaisir de te revoir !

Hugs! Are you in the USA, and if so, which State ?

I am include the gay flag for you !
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on November 11, 2008, 08:52:35 am
Bonjour Patrick !

C'est un plaisir de te revoir !

Hugs! Are you in the USA, and if so, which State ?

I am include the gay flag for you !

C'est un plaisir de te revoir !     ??? ???
I know high-school Spanish but very few words in French.

Did I ever tell you that when my Great-Great-Great Grandparents came from Ireland, they landed in Quebec~!


I live in the good old state of Wisconsin and I like it a lot.  The western part of the State is unglaciated so it's the oldest part.

Your art looks great, as usual, and Thank You for now I have a rainbow flag in my collection.

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p

I live between Chicago and Milwaukee in Kenosha a name which came from First Nation Potowanami who called the place "Kenosia" meaning pike (the fish).
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on December 11, 2008, 07:56:48 am
Thanks to everyone who has been praying for my brother; positive thoughts, etc.,

Now, we are in almost daily communication via email.

I bend to the One who makes all of this possible~!

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lumière on December 11, 2008, 05:38:04 pm

Greetings P.

Sending a hug your way, Bud.


~M
Title: Re: and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on December 11, 2008, 07:30:18 pm
Merci beaucoup  br. patrick !

So, how is it that your great-great-great grand-parents were living in Québec and you are in the USA?

Ton Francais, je le comprends bien! Félicitations!

Be assured that my prayers are for your brother and for you too!!

Glad that you ;like that gay flag!
I will try to find a gay Wisconsin flag for you ! Remind me!

Are you on that map ? Guide me somehow...

au revoir,
hugs!

Title: Re: and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on December 12, 2008, 09:58:55 am
Merci beaucoup  br. patrick !

So, how is it that your great-great-great grand-parents were living in Québec and you are in the USA?

Ton Francais, je le comprends bien! Félicitations!

Be assured that my prayers are for your brother and for you too!!

Glad that you ;like that gay flag!
I will try to find a gay Wisconsin flag for you ! Remind me!

Are you on that map ? Guide me somehow...

au revoir,
hugs!
Quebec was a common destination for Irish in the New World according to what I have read.   In the 1830s there was a cholera outbreak and most of the immigrants were 'stranded' on their ships. (quarantined)  My G-G-G Grandfather succumbed to the disease but his son survived and traveled all over the place.  He went to the California Gold Rush twice, the second time he went 'around the horn (of South America)' by steamtrips.   He finally settled in Northern Illinois where his two uncles were living.  At one time, it was said that we had the largest family in Lake County, Illinois.  Lake County is just south of me.  I still meet new relatives occasionally.

On the map Kenosha is covered by the ARROW pointing to my dwelling place.   It's roughly in the middle of the map, right on the coast of Lake Michigan.  If you find RACINE, it's 20 miles north of me.  They have a 'point' that sticks into Lake Michigan.  I can see that point clearly from the beach across the street.

Many, Many thanks for your prayers.  Everyone is heard.  Only a few listen for an answer.

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p


Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shasta542 on December 23, 2008, 09:02:46 pm
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I HOPE YOUR HOLIDAYS ARE WONDERFUL, BR. PATRICK! MERRY CHRISTMAS AND MANY BLESSINGS IN 2009!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on December 24, 2008, 11:07:56 am
Merry Christmas to all of my fellow travelers on this thing called LIFE.  May we be blessed with a fine 2009~!


{{{Cyberblessings}}}

Your br. p      ;)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: southendmd on December 24, 2008, 11:24:13 am
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Merry Christmas, Brother Patrick! :-*
Title: Merry Christmas, Brother Patrick!
Post by: Lynne on December 24, 2008, 08:33:53 pm
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Merry Christmas to you, Dearest Patrick.

I wish for you all the best in the New Year, most particularly good health and health care and freedom from unnecessary pain.
Your friendship is truly one of the greatest gifts in my life.

Peace and Love Always,
Lynne
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on December 26, 2008, 09:16:55 am
My Dear Girl Lynne,

I had a dream about you when I took a nap Christmas morning.  Can't remember most of it but we had fun with your Laptop.

{{{Love and Blessings}}}  :-*

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on December 26, 2008, 12:57:43 pm
I had a dream about you when I took a nap Christmas morning.  Can't remember most of it but we had fun with your Laptop.

I was on my laptop most of Christmas, if not at BetterMost, then doing some much needed maintenance...You must have been helping me install the anti-virus software remotely!

 :laugh: ;)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on December 27, 2008, 12:46:53 pm
I was on my laptop most of Christmas, if not at BetterMost, then doing some much needed maintenance...You must have been helping me install the anti-virus software remotely!

 :laugh: ;)

I think that it just proves that the two of us really are connected in some special way.   I have always felt that.  Now we have some proof.

Have a Fine 2009~!  :-*

br. p

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on December 28, 2008, 11:37:11 am
I love that expression:
Kissing the face of God!

And that is one thing that endure is the good
that humans can do!

We were all children created by God,
and humans!

That can bring joy and respect for all humanity!

Have a Happy Sunday! And happiness and health
every day!

May I wish that for you and for all !

Au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lumière on January 30, 2009, 08:15:00 pm

Someone asked me the other day whether I'd seen Loggerheads.
I thought of you then, bud.  :)
Hope yer doing well!


~M
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on February 01, 2009, 11:30:22 am
Hey there, Brother Patrick!

Were your ears burning last night?  I was telling a friend about you and our all-night chats.  I hope you're doing well.  Your prayer was particularly on my mind yesterday...

Much love always,
Lynne
 8)
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on February 01, 2009, 08:11:15 pm
Mes prières quotidiennes sont pour ton frère et pour toi !!

My daily prayers are for your brother and for you !!

Au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on February 03, 2009, 09:20:52 am
Hello to everyone.  I think this is my first post in 2009.  Was busy in January updating PC.

Love to all of you~!

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. patrick
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on February 03, 2009, 10:04:18 am
Hello to everyone.  I think this is my first post in 2009.  Was busy in January updating PC.

Love to all of you~!

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. patrick

It's great to see you back, Friend.  Whose critters are those?  Did you get pets?!!!??!!!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on February 03, 2009, 10:37:50 am
Wow, j'aime la photo des deux animaux!

I like that photo of the two animals!

Your pets?
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on February 04, 2009, 01:24:38 am
It's great to see you back, Friend.  Whose critters are those?  Did you get pets?!!!??!!!
No, my friend Polly just sent me a load of interesting pictures.  "Moments."

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on February 22, 2009, 01:30:02 pm
Hey there, Brother Patrick!

I was just thinking about you and your perfect prayer.  I always come back to it when times get trying.  Check out my personal ten commandments in my blog when you get a chance...tell me what you think.  Since I'm not working again, maybe we can schedule a midnight chat one day next week?  I'd like it.

Much love,
Lynne
 :-*
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on February 23, 2009, 08:30:02 am
Hey there, Brother Patrick!

I was just thinking about you and your perfect prayer.  I always come back to it when times get trying.  Check out my personal ten commandments in my blog when you get a chance...tell me what you think.  Since I'm not working again, maybe we can schedule a midnight chat one day next week?  I'd like it.

Much love,
Lynne
 :-*

GirlFRIEND~!
SO good to hear from you~~~!!!  It's not 'my' Perfect Prayer anymore, it belongs to the ages.  Can you put a link in a reply to help out this computer nut navigate to your blog?    Then we can talk about next week!!!!!!!

:-*   :D     :-*
{{{CyberLove}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on February 23, 2009, 09:55:31 am
Bonjour cher Br. Patrick !

Are you walking too on ice?

Or on water?

I long to see your posts and threads!!

And may I hug you mon  ami !!

How are you?

What are you doing?

Au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on February 23, 2009, 12:50:18 pm
GirlFRIEND~!
SO good to hear from you~~~!!!  It's not 'my' Perfect Prayer anymore, it belongs to the ages.  Can you put a link in a reply to help out this computer nut navigate to your blog?    Then we can talk about next week!!!!!!!

:-*   :D     :-*
{{{CyberLove}}}

br. p

Here you go, Friend.

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,102.msg479929.html#msg479929
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on February 23, 2009, 02:05:11 pm
Bonjour cher Br. Patrick !

Are you walking too on ice?

Or on water?

How are you?


I'm hangin' in there.. waiting for this winter to end.  Warmed up a bit then more cold lately.   Beautiful 'Cloud Mountains' over Lake Michigan, this morning.

Spiritually, I'm getting ready for LENT (which means spring) and will partake by leading various services at my local church as a Monk.    LOTS of GUILT associated with LENT in the Roman Catholic Church.  It didn't start out that way, it just was added, little by little throughout the centuries.  Lately, thanks be to God, more is coming out about making POSITIVE CHANGES in your life instead of just 'giving something up.'

Lent means Easter is coming and that is a REAL good thing~!

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p 
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on February 23, 2009, 02:28:54 pm
Here you go, Friend.

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,102.msg479929.html#msg479929

As I said in your blog, I had to take a Sabbatical lately because my Spirituality was too big for any 'church' after my Near Death Experiences ..

I came out of it with One Commandment..


LOVE~!


or again to repeat what St. Augustine of Hippo said in the 5th Century, "Love - and do what you want."

Would love to chat any night you choose.  I'll keep your job situation in prayer too.  Haven't heard (read) from my brother again in weeks..   Lemme know.

 :-* :D :-*

{{{CyberLove}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on February 23, 2009, 06:27:13 pm



   Glad to see you back with that beautiful little picture of the kitty and puppy.  That is amazing.  So cute, and adorable.
I am so glad to hear from you again.  Be well my darling boy.  love jan
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on February 23, 2009, 07:30:30 pm
Merci Br. Patrick for your news! I missed them!

Joyeuses Pâques, Br. Patrick !

That's Happy Easter!

Tell us about LENT, please!

Au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on February 24, 2009, 03:52:13 pm
Tell us about LENT, please!

Au revoir,
hugs!
From Wikpedia..
Current fasting practice in the Roman Catholic Church binds persons over the age of eighteen and younger than fifty-nine (Canon 1252). Pursuant to Canon 1253, days of fasting and abstinence are set by the national Episcopal conference. On days of fasting, one eats only one full meal, but may eat two smaller meals as necessary to keep up one's strength. The two small meals together must sum to less than the one full meal. Parallel to the fasting laws are the laws of abstinence. These bind those over the age of fourteen. On days of abstinence, the person must not eat meat or poultry. In most countries, the strict requirements of abstinence have been limited by the bishops (in accordance with Canon 1253) to the Fridays of Lent and Ash Wednesday. On other abstinence days, the faithful are invited to perform some other act of penance.

(Note from br. p:  On other fasting days the faithful are invited to make 'positive change' (my words).  This could mean simply performing random acts of kindness to strangers.  Being less harsh on your particular weaknesses (we are PROGRAMMED TO PROCREATE so getting horny, for instance, is a 'normal' thing).

From Wikpedia:
Many modern Protestants consider the observation of Lent to be a choice, rather than an obligation. They may decide to give up a favorite food or drink (e.g. chocolate, alcohol) or activity (e.g., going to the movies, playing video games, etc.) for Lent, or they may instead take on a Lenten discipline such as devotions, volunteering for charity work, and so on. Roman Catholics may also observe Lent in this way in addition to the dietary restrictions outlined above, though observation is no longer mandatory under the threat of mortal sin. Many Christians who choose not to follow the dietary restrictions cite 1 Timothy 4:1-5 which warns of doctrines that "forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth."
. . . . . . .

So it all ends up to be a time of preparation for Easter.   I am reminded of a funny line in the movie "The African Queen" where Kate Hepburn strictly admonishes Bogart with, "Human nature, Mr. Alnutt, is what we were put in this world to overcome."   She says it with strict authority but by the end of her journey she finds some stimulations to the flesh to be exhilarating.

Lent CAN BE a GOOD thing.  I didn't always think that way and I will vehemently disagree with someone who insists that there must be some kind of 'suffering' for it to mean anything.   I was taught by nuns in Grade School and they freely gave out 'guilt trips' during this time of year.  But that was then and this is now.

It all comes down to a simple battle.    Do we control our bodies or do our bodies control us?   The ANSWER is somewhere in the middle of the everlasting now..

br. p leaves podium and says "WHEW!"

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on February 24, 2009, 03:57:28 pm
 Glad to see you back with that beautiful little picture of the kitty and puppy.  That is amazing.  So cute, and adorable.
I am so glad to hear from you again.  Be well my darling boy.  love jan

My Butterfly ( or should that be FlutterBy because that is what they do  ;D   )

Thanks for the thanks.  I'll post another "moment"..

{{{    JANICE   }}}   :-*

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on February 24, 2009, 03:58:56 pm
Merci pour ta surprise Brother Patrick!

You say we can and it's OK to get horny during Lent or to-day as Mardi Gras?

And do what about that? Have sex?


May I dare ask!

Au revoir,
hugs!

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on February 24, 2009, 04:08:42 pm
Merci pour ta surprise Brother Patrick!

You say we can and it's OK to get horny during Lent or to-day as Mardi Gras?

And do what about that? Have sex?


May I dare ask!

Au revoir,
hugs!



Ask away!  But your asking me.   Don't ask me, ask The One Who Is.   He speaks very quietly until one is used to this form of communication.   It's easy to confuse our own thoughts with the WORD of the Almighty.   Time makes that ever so much easier.

{{{Cyberhugs}}}  and off to prepare for tomorrow, Ash Wednesday where I will join the Priest of the local church in distribution of ashes..

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on February 28, 2009, 02:09:37 pm
Well hey Brother Patrick, I hope you have a good natal anniversary experence today. I have not kept up with you much of late, I hope your family is doing well.

Enjoy everyday.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9OO0S5w2k[/youtube]
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on March 01, 2009, 07:18:39 am
Well hey Brother Patrick, I hope you have a good natal anniversary experence today. I have not kept up with you much of late, I hope your family is doing well.

Enjoy everyday.


P.T. Shakestheground,

You are in my prayers everyday.  Once I start praying for someone I never quit.  Thanks for the great video!   I recorded the movie "Can't Stop The Music" from Sho-time.  It does the song IN a YMCA!  But you showed me a difference.   The African-American army guy wasn't in the cast of Village People.   Really dumb movie but fun for those days when my brain is running low on intelligence because of medications.

I DO miss you AND being able to share with you.  I will have to get myself over to your blog and just lurk if nothing else.

Thanks for the Birthday wish also!

{{{Cyberhugs}}}   :-*

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on March 01, 2009, 09:19:47 pm
Hey there, Brother Patrick!

By my reckoning, we have not one but two anniversaries that need celebrating...sorry I'm late for the party.   ;)

Happy Natal Anniversary, Friend.
I Treasure You Every Day!



AND


Happy BetterMost Anniversary!
Three Years and Counting...
You Make the Days Here Brighter!

Much Love Always,
Lynne
 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on March 01, 2009, 09:26:39 pm
Bonne et Heureuse Fête cher Frère Patrick!! 

HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY dear Brother Patrick !!!

May you have all desires, health and happiness as you wish every day friend !!!


Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on March 01, 2009, 09:41:17 pm
Pour toi:

      http://www.jacquielawson.com/preview.asp?cont=1&hdn=0&pv=3145946         
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on March 01, 2009, 09:45:26 pm
Sorry about the booze!

Her's none!

Maybe you will like this one?

   http://www.jacquielawson.com/preview.asp?cont=1&hdn=0&pv=3128546               
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on March 02, 2009, 12:35:53 am
Hey there, Brother Patrick!

By my reckoning, we have not one but two anniversaries that need celebrating



YES, can you believe we have been hangin' around here for THREE YEARS?  I certainly don't see any end in sight.   And remember, my dear girl, it was YOU who got me to Open Up and I am ever so glad that you did!

How's the job situation?

Much Love  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on March 02, 2009, 12:43:38 am
Maybe you will like this one?

They are both cute.  Websites such as this kind of scare me.   When you click to "enter" or to "start" you are giving the site your email address.

But I thank you for your thoughtful consideration!

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: David In Indy on March 03, 2009, 03:05:39 am
Happy Birthday Brother Patrick!!!!

I realize I'm a few days late, but my wish is heartfelt!!

I always enjoy reading your blog. You inspire so many people here! :)


So, I just wanted to wish you a Happy Birthday! I hope all is well for you!

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j43/Davidindy/Peanuts/Snoopy-love.gif)


xx

David.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on March 03, 2009, 03:13:25 am
Happy Birthday Brother Patrick!!!!

I realize I'm a few days late, but my wish is heartfelt!!

I always enjoy reading your blog. You inspire so many people here! :)


So, I just wanted to wish you a Happy Birthday! I hope all is well for you!




xx

David.

You were one of the first posters in this thread.  Thank you for keeping up with it since 2007!

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: David In Indy on March 03, 2009, 03:23:26 am
You were one of the first posters in this thread.  Thank you for keeping up with it since 2007!

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p

Thank you for keeping up with your blog! You have NO idea how much it has helped me over the past year or so. And so many others too!

I look forward to many more posts from you in the future! Your blog has changed me in more ways than one. :)

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on March 06, 2009, 07:45:03 am
Thank you for keeping up with your blog! You have NO idea how much it has helped me over the past year or so. And so many others too!

I look forward to many more posts from you in the future! Your blog has changed me in more ways than one. :)



I have to give all the credit to the One Who Is for Engineering all of our Circumstances and helping us stay 'in the moment.'

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on March 07, 2009, 05:25:46 pm



   I am so glad to see you are doing so well these days.  I am sorry that I have been MIA for quite a while.  I am feeling
some better now, so maybe I will be able to come back and say hi more often..   (((((((Patrick))))))))
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on March 08, 2009, 07:07:46 pm
Frère Patrick !

Merci pour tes beaux mots! (Thanks for you nice words!)

Here is maybe another that you will like!

Since I believe that God and others talk to us through flowers:

http://www.jacquielawson.com/preview.asp?cont=1&hdn=1&pv=3139986

Au revoir,
hugs1
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on March 09, 2009, 04:04:11 am


   I am so glad to see you are doing so well these days.  I am sorry that I have been MIA for quite a while.  I am feeling
some better now, so maybe I will be able to come back and say hi more often..   (((((((Patrick))))))))

You may have been MIA around here but you are present and accounted for in my daily prayers, my butterfly..

{{{{{{    Janice    }}}}}   :-*

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on March 09, 2009, 04:11:11 am
Since I believe that God and others talk to us through flowers


When I see a flower, I think of SEX.   That is the purpose of these beautiful plants our Creator gave us.  And their design is to attract pollenators.   That is one of the reasons that I don't think SEX is such a Big Deal with the One Who Is.   It's everywhere around us and is one of humanities strongest drives.  These facts take much of the 'guilt' about SEX away for me.

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on March 12, 2009, 08:28:48 pm
Merci Br. Patrick !


Likewise, I have seen flowers also as a sex symbol, a delightful one !!

To me sex is natural as well as spiritual,
and I wonder why some of the bible(s) parts do not consider that for all humans?
Do you too?


Au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on March 13, 2009, 06:24:00 am
To me sex is natural as well as spiritual,
and I wonder why some of the bible(s) parts do not consider that for all humans?
Do you too?

Religious leaders have always used SEX as a guilt trip (notice that I did not say Spiritual Leaders).  Having power over people is not an easy thing to do.  We all tend toward Controlling something or other.  But when that Control is combined with Religion.. POW!  Some people just can't handle it and wind up being 'teachers' or 'leaders' of things that BIND people, not FREEING them.

I know this from experience.  Just because I'm a Benedictine Monk, that makes some people immediately put me on a pedestal.  When I sense that happening, I will do something very human because I'm just the same as everybody else, I just have this wonderful calling.  But that's the same with everyone.

Being on a Pedestal is a nasty thing.  The only way you can go is DOWN.    :laugh:

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on March 13, 2009, 08:50:04 pm
Merci Br. Patrick !

You say:
           Religious leaders have always used SEX as a guilt trip (notice that I did not say Spiritual Leaders).  Having power over people is not an easy thing to do.  We all tend toward Controlling something or other.  But when that Control is combined with Religion.. POW!  Some people just can't handle it and wind up being 'teachers' or 'leaders' of things that BIND people, not FREEING them.

I know this from experience.  Just because I'm a Benedictine Monk, that makes some people immediately put me on a pedestal.  When I sense that happening, I will do something very human because I'm just the same as everybody else, I just have this wonderful calling.  But that's the same with everyone.

Being on a Pedestal is a nasty thing.  The only way you can go is DOWN.           

........................

Frère Patrick,
May I ask:
Everyone can be on a pedestal? Especially trying to help with one's talent?
Everyone needs help and can accept help ?? Every person learns every day ?

Au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on March 16, 2009, 05:56:20 am

Everyone can be on a pedestal? Especially trying to help with one's talent?
Everyone needs help and can accept help ?? Every person learns every day ?

Au revoir,
hugs!

Yes, and fail with the same human weaknesses.   Everything you have said is very true.

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lumière on March 31, 2009, 04:54:52 pm
Hey P...

How are ya..  :)

I watched Latter Days again the other night.  Aaron is as dear a boy as ever.. 
I got to thinking of all those screencaps you made for me...  :)


I would so love to get a hold of the LD Soundtrack.  There are at least 3 songs on there I'd love to learn to play on my ol'  guitar.
Do you have the soundtrack?

Hope you are well, bud.

~M
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on March 31, 2009, 11:03:34 pm
Merci br. Patrick!

Have a wonderful Easter!
May I be the first to wish you that!

How are you?


Au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on March 31, 2009, 11:26:49 pm
Merci br. Patrick!

Have a wonderful Easter!
May I be the first to wish you that!

How are you?


Au revoir,
hugs!

I'm getting ready for Easter.   Last year when I went into Morning Prayer on Easter Morning, I found myself in the midst of a PARTY!  That lasted for a few days.   Lingering mystical experiences from my near death thing..

I'm as good as can be.   Hope you are too.

{{{Cyberhugs}}}
br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on March 31, 2009, 11:36:59 pm
I'm getting ready for Easter.   Last year when I went into Morning Prayer on Easter Morning, I found myself in the midst of a PARTY!  That lasted for a few days.   Lingering mystical experiences from my near death thing..

I'm as good as can be.   Hope you are too.

{{{Cyberhugs}}}
br. p

Hey there, Brother Patrick!  It's a treat to see you online!  I'm planning to go to a Unitarian service in Lexington on Sunday.  I hope you have a good Palm Sunday and Easter Day, Friend.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on April 02, 2009, 06:40:06 am
Hey there, Brother Patrick!  It's a treat to see you online!  I'm planning to go to a Unitarian service in Lexington on Sunday.  I hope you have a good Palm Sunday and Easter Day, Friend.
Enjoy your experience of The One Who Is~!   Happiest of Easter's to you too!

{{{    Lynne   }}}    :-*

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on April 02, 2009, 08:18:44 am
Hey P...

How are ya..  :)

I watched Latter Days again the other night.  Aaron is as dear a boy as ever.. 
I got to thinking of all those screencaps you made for me...  :)


I would so love to get a hold of the LD Soundtrack.  There are at least 3 songs on there I'd love to learn to play on my ol'  guitar.
Do you have the soundtrack?

Hope you are well, bud.

~M

http://www.amazon.com/Latter-Days-Various-Artists/dp/B00061Q9IA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1238674580&sr=8-3

Wow even amazon.com is out but there are people selling used copies.

I took this over to PMs and email.   ::)

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
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Post by: Artiste on April 02, 2009, 09:17:00 am
Merci Br. Patrick !


Glad to see that you had that Party last year!

Do you plan to have such good time this Easter?
Reknew such friendships?

Au revoir,
hugs!
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Post by: Br. Patrick on April 12, 2009, 05:01:11 am
Do you plan to have such good time this Easter?
It's Happening Again~!

Happy Easter Everybody!

{{{Cyberblessings}}}   ::)

Br. Patrick
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Post by: Brokeback_Dev on April 12, 2009, 06:56:42 am


                    Happy Easter, Br Patrick
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Post by: Br. Patrick on April 14, 2009, 01:12:05 pm

                    Happy Easter, Br Patrick

Same to you, my friend, a thousandfold over..

{{{Cyberhugs}}}   :)

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lumière on April 14, 2009, 03:25:10 pm
Hey P,


(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/Lucise/Misc/egts2.jpg)

..to you as well...


~M :-]
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on April 17, 2009, 02:28:08 pm
Hey ~M,

I have more than Easter Greetings ready for you...  But I hope your Easter was WONDERFUL!

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on April 17, 2009, 03:22:30 pm
Well I hope you do to. Hope you are doing well and that the lake does not catch on fire.

Hey how about that Susan Boyle! I am so tickled to live on the same planet with her.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on April 19, 2009, 06:56:45 am
Well I hope you do to. Hope you are doing well and that the lake does not catch on fire.

Hey how about that Susan Boyle! I am so tickled to live on the same planet with her.

It's OK if the Lake catches on fire.  There's a lot of water nearby to put it out..   you sly puss..

Thanks for reminding me of her name so I could hear her incredible performance on YOUtube.   When one encounters greatness, it's OK to cry.   And I sure did.

{{{Cyberhugs P.T. My Friend}}}  ;)

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on April 21, 2009, 11:03:21 am
Merci Br. Patrick!

I am glad that you used two of my Easter cards lately in your post!

I have sold those this year! And the lady who has them is enjoyng them!
That is good that she is happy keeping these, as her turn to collect them!

I have two or so left!

How was your Easter?

Au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on April 21, 2009, 01:32:19 pm
How was your Easter?

My Easter started normal until I went into prayer.  All  of a sudden I was in the midst of this incredible party, just like last year.  They know how to whoop it up in Heaven.   By Wednesday things had quieted down to near normal.  But 'normal' for me is Ecstasy!   I wish I could share this with you.   There are no words that combine partying and PLAYING!  And that was the atmosphere I was in.   Such rejoicing!

Thanks for asking~!

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p

PS I didn't know those cards came from you.  I sent them to an elderly couple from church and they really appreciated remembering what greeting cards used to look like.   THANK YOU
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on April 23, 2009, 11:31:27 pm
Are Tv programs now brainwhashing us in North America to believe in Islam ONLY and for us let go christianity... do you think as was seen to-night:
       http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?topic=35543.msg503901;topicseen#msg503901               

Could you tell me about his Br. Patrick...

au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on April 24, 2009, 06:19:39 am
I didn't see the program and I generally avoid TV shows dealing with "Religion." 

But I certainly can answer your question!   We have an Infinite God Who can be reached in an Infinite number of ways.  There is no ONE WAY, in my near-death experience of Spirituality.   

[Usual disclaimers insert here..]

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on April 25, 2009, 10:01:28 pm
Merci Br. Patrick !

How can one religion, as Islam, say that it has the only way, route, to God... as it is saying it's the ONLY religion it says,

and isn't that something negative against humanity!

Have wonderful day!

Au revoir,
hugs!
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Post by: Br. Patrick on April 26, 2009, 03:35:25 am
I'm sure that you would agree that this is inappropriate.  But LOVE them just the same, even if they are misguided.  I was taught similar things in my youth in a Catholic Grade School.  Now, I see things quite differently.  Let them believe what they want.  It doesn't hurt you anyway.

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on April 26, 2009, 10:19:38 pm
Merci Br. Patrick!

I think that such ignorance can hurt many.

Did you see Brokeback Mountain, that movie...

au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on April 27, 2009, 02:34:53 am
I think ignorance is best left alone.  To try to correct another's ignorance brings you down to the same level as them.

{{{ artiste }}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on April 27, 2009, 11:09:51 pm
I do not think that ignorance is OK!


Everyone needs education and to accept humanity in order to better it !!!!

What do you think...

au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on April 28, 2009, 05:04:54 am
In principle, I totally agree with you.  But it's not OUR job to change others..  We CAN, however, change OURSELVES to be loving and accepting people.   Love always affects those around us.

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on April 28, 2009, 05:31:41 pm
Merci Br. patrick!

What you say... is one way!

To me, there are ALSO other ways!!! Many!

You can not let a murderer keep on murdering, is my aim.
What is left to danger goes around, does it not...

Education is a prority in a normal society!
Do you think is was normal for many countries to willingly send over one million gays to Germany to death stoves, only because they were gay men...
and to-day Iran hangs young gay men in line...
what is next, tell me...
as even a politician in Canada, a few months ago said in a high school that all homosexuals should be extinguished! What is your way to re-act to that...

au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on April 29, 2009, 08:12:48 am
We have come an IMMENSE way since the Stonewall Riots of 1969.  Before then, homosexuality was punishable by death for around 6000 years!  We all need to educate.   I do it with LOVE.

It is to my fortune that I have never had gay-bashing done to me.  But it affects you stronger than anyone I know.   I realize you have been a victim and NO ONE can understand what you have been through.  But you have the opportunity to change your way of thinking.  You may need professional help.  I do for anxiety and depression.

'Faith, Hope, and Love remain; these three.. and the Greatest of These is LOVE'

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on April 29, 2009, 06:57:38 pm
Merci Br. Patrick!

Yes, some progress but is that a reason to become blind to-day to let that and worst happen again... tell me!

I do not pay lip service... as you know like many do!

A gay man gets murdered and most people still don't care, it seems to me!
Look at the Matthew Sheppard who was murdered because he was gay;
if you want to talk about him on Bettermost, most members don't care to do so! Not even gays on Bettermost! I find that STRANGE! Like lip-service!

I have travelled a great deal and seen much, and I know that most citizens in the USA, Canada and elsewhere in democratic countries usually stay at home and don't see much violence, right! To them, such actrocities as gay-bashing does not exist or too rarely; it like TV shows to them as they couch like becoming dead potatoes! Bull! Even the gay community needs to be awaken now and tomorrow, and not only of yesterday!

The millions gays who were murdered yesterdays as like in German as well as to-day like to-day in Iran and China because they are gays as the reason, is our backyard; and, just look really in our own countries, gay bashings are happening too - even murders! But no one wants to talk about that, not even on Bettermost! Shut up Artiste! Stay in your corner!

What dirt do we place under the carpet... by hiding, fear or keeping on being ignorance. That boomerang comes back, did it not...


Au revoir,
hugs!
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Post by: Br. Patrick on April 30, 2009, 06:45:52 am
I totally agree with you.  It's easy to become complacent.  Watch "Milk" - the story of Harvey Milk who, along with the Mayor of San Francisco, was assassinated.  30,000 people showed up for a candlelight march to City Hall.

I'm a Follower, it is not my nature to lead.  You seem to have what it takes to LEAD.  Do so, I'll join with my thoughts and prayers.  You have clearly made your point here at BetterMost in this Blog as well as others too. 

Harvey Milk was a leader.  The movie shows him 'recruiting' others to THE CAUSE.  Learn from him, you are much alike.

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p

ps, I have a Matthew Shepard wristband..  And I display his picture proudly in my hermitage.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on May 01, 2009, 12:06:47 am
Merci br. Patrick!

You say about Milk, and that is very interesting!  When my gay brother came with his lover at Easter and with a gay friend of theirs, we talked - his lover let me his CD of Milk since I asked! I will see it when I can find time!

I just saw now the movie: On the Waterfront, an 1954 film. Did you ever see it... as there are near-death as well as murderings in it! The priest does talk about Christ, crucifix for everyone... Is this like the Brokeback Mountain movie, Annie's story...

I see life as to lead and well as to follow, both for everyone; to share and we share!!

Au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on May 01, 2009, 01:52:28 am
I am glad you will see "Milk" as you will be seeing the commonalities between you and him.

I've seen "On the Waterfront" once but was disappointed because Marlon Brando didn't look as good as he did in "A Streetcar Named Desire."

{{{Cybercinema}}}

br. p
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Post by: Artiste on May 01, 2009, 10:56:34 am
Merci Br. Patrick!

Instead of seing Brando for sex temptations, try to see that movie again for what we talked about:
to better and to help humanity, may I say!

It's worthwhile for you to see it again... soon, yes or maybe.

Au revoir,
hugs!
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Post by: Br. Patrick on May 02, 2009, 07:39:55 am
Absolutely.  I record much from Turner Classic Movies.  The next time it is shown I will record it.  Forgive my carnal leanings...  The One Who Is sure does!

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on May 02, 2009, 10:48:42 pm
Merci Br. Patrick!

There were two movies that I wanted to see to-night!
One I saw: Dear Wendy 2005! I saw it! But I did not see: River's Edge 1987!

I wonder why these were paired... for education.
Do you know?

Keep care,
hugs!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on May 03, 2009, 01:23:52 am
According to amazon.com, they both show the depths of evil human beings are capable of.  A disturbing pair of films, to say the least.  Dear Wendy is still available but The Rivers Edge is out of print.

Since you have had so much contact with raw human evil, I imagine this is why you have paired them.  BUT those people filled with raw human evil need to be LOVED!

Love is the answer to every problem on this planet.

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on May 03, 2009, 08:00:09 am
Merci Br. Patrick!

I did not pair those movies, since they were on an educational channel like PBS!!

One shows the interest of pacifists young men and women, who do get interested in guns and finally tries to protect an old lady so she can go down to the other end of the street peacefully in a street full of dangers like some are to-day, but she fears and kill; the result... is all kills like in a Western, but a modern one like islamic style! The gun is Wendy!

The other seems to be about youth with drugs... and there is a murder or murders, but no one wants to get involve to help stop it... maybe! That, isn't that society becoming that to-day? I did not see that movie!

Both movies it seems show reality of to-day's streets? Society becoming violent with guns and drugs by youth; such danger, like a la Islamic style more and more??

What do you think?

Au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on May 04, 2009, 04:03:54 am
I don't mean to trivialize but the truth remains:

Love is the answer to every problem on this planet.

Since you seem destined to lead, why not build your own web site where like-minded people can get their frustrations out?

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lumière on May 05, 2009, 03:46:03 pm
Hey there P..

I got it!  Today!
Thank you, thank you.   :-*


~M
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Post by: Lynne on May 05, 2009, 04:08:57 pm
I don't mean to trivialize but the truth remains:

Love is the answer to every problem on this planet.

...

I really like this, Brother Patrick.  Thank you for posting.
 :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on May 06, 2009, 12:50:35 pm
Hey there P..

I got it!  Today!
Thank you, thank you.   :-*


~M

I wish the 'extras' had better sound quality.  The rest of the Soundtrack is fabulous.

Enjoy, my dearest Milli, enjoy.  Think of me when you hear "Abide With Me."

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on May 06, 2009, 01:01:51 pm
I really like this, Brother Patrick.  Thank you for posting.
 :-* :-* :-*

I recently took an 8 month sabbatical to study the "Old Spiritual Me" and the "New Spiritual Me" because the Old Me just didn't fit anymore, it was much too narrow and that was the last thing I expected to find out.  I expected to come up with something lofty and profound..  yet maybe that is just what it is!  It seems so obviously simple but works from minor disagreements to World Wide Catastrophes.

Love is the answer to every problem on this planet

Thank YOU for recognizing this.   :-*  ::)  :-*
{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p

ps.  are you in Boston yet?
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on May 10, 2009, 08:36:34 pm
Love is not letting criminals run anyone nor us, nor being lasy!

Isn't that so Br. Patrick?
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on May 11, 2009, 01:26:37 am
Love is not letting criminals run anyone nor us, nor being lasy!

Isn't that so Br. Patrick?

That's why we have so much trouble.  If only people would LOVE instead of creating intentional circumstances of dissension.

YMMV, but for me Love is the answer to every problem on this planet.

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on May 17, 2009, 01:24:15 pm
Merci Br. Patrick!

May I ask you a hard (?) question:

When you let drug pushers come into schools, is that tolerance, being love?

Au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on May 17, 2009, 11:28:05 pm
Love the PERSON, not the behaviour.

Imagine what this world could be if everyone loved each other......

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on May 23, 2009, 10:05:20 am
Merci Br. Patrick!

We can imagine such, yes!

But one has to remain virgilant? To let gays be killed, is that love?

Otherwise, gays get murdered because they are gays! ???

Au revoir,
hugs!          To me, love and to love, is not being lazy minded!     
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on May 24, 2009, 01:24:29 am
        To me, love and to love, is not being lazy minded!     

That's very true.  There are many kinds of love.  I guess what I am describing is AGAPE love which is kind of like intense brotherly (and sisterly) love.

If bad people were loved more and more often, maybe they wouldn't be so bad..

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lumière on August 05, 2009, 05:09:55 pm
Hey Br. P.,

How are you doing, bud?
I think of you whenever I pop my LatterDays CD in the player (which is often).

Hope you are keeping well!

Hugs,
~M
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on August 06, 2009, 07:21:17 am
Hey Br. P.,

How are you doing, bud?
I think of you whenever I pop my LatterDays CD in the player (which is often).

Hope you are keeping well!

Hugs,
~M

And so good to hear from you in this blog.  I will be changing / adding better descriptions about some things at the top of the blog.   August 6-15th marks the 2nd anniversary of the event with August 12th being the "near-death experience" day.   There are things I didn't tell at the time because I was so overwhelmed with the revelations.  I'll be adding some comments so check out the starting messages!

Love you lots~!

{{{Cyberhugs to ~M}}}    :-*

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Artiste on August 09, 2009, 07:55:17 pm
Br., what is agape love?
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on August 10, 2009, 07:07:07 am
Br., what is agape love?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape

It's the kind of love I have for you..

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on August 10, 2009, 10:10:49 am
Hey Br. Patrick, agape to you too.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on August 11, 2009, 06:14:24 am
Agape Right back atcha..  but you know that already, I'm sure.   Thanks for the Snail Mail!

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 28, 2009, 04:00:10 pm
Hey Br. Patrick, agape to you too.

The postcards are great.   But why buy a stamp when I am available here?

TO EVERYONE:

My best 'straight friend' John would not watch BBM because he 'couldn't handle two men kissing.'  I showed him the Oprah show and lent him my BD (Blu-Ray) copy.  He was [email protected]@@@[email protected]@@

That's engineering circumstances to be sure.

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on September 28, 2009, 04:29:55 pm
The postcards are great.   But why buy a stamp when I am available here?

TO EVERYONE:

My best 'straight friend' John would not watch BBM because he 'couldn't handle two men kissing.'  I showed him the Oprah show and lent him my BD (Blu-Ray) copy.  He was [email protected]@@@[email protected]@@

That's engineering circumstances to be sure.

br. p

That is so cool. It seems to be the sentiment once they do watch it. Maybe he just needed a calibration horn. I know I do.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on September 29, 2009, 05:49:05 am
That is so cool. It seems to be the sentiment once they do watch it. Maybe he just needed a calibration horn. I know I do.

That's it.  Oprah Winfrey is a Calibration Horn.   (Truman sent me a postcard of a Calibration Horn.)

Calibration is a lot like Enginering.  I like that..

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. p
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on November 12, 2009, 07:10:07 am
Could I ask a favor from you all?

My brother is dying.  He just turned 60 a little over a month ago.  He started with lung cancer but it was a really bad kind and it has spread throughout his entire body.   He's on heavy duty opiates (Pain Killers) so he is as comfortable as possible.   His wife, Nancy has her father and sister along with hospice caring for him.  He could go today, tomorrow, a week, maybe a month.   But he has no quality of life.

SO

I ask that you pray that "God will engineer the circumstances of Br. Patrick's brother Jack, according to His Will" and take him home SOON!

Positive thoughts would be great too.

{{  Cyberhugs  }}

br.  p

"He's not heavy, he's my brother"
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on November 20, 2009, 03:18:01 am
My brother Jack died yesterday, November 19, 2009 at 8:45ET.  I'm sure that you all have helped end his suffering by your prayers and positive thoughts.  I am not doing well at all.  He was the last remaining member of my family.  I spent the whole day yesterday in tears.  Now, I feel better knowing he is in a much better place.

Eternal Rest Grant Unto Him O Lord,
And Let Perpetual Light Shine Upon Him.
May His Soul And All The Souls Of The Faithful Departed
ThroughThe Mercy Of God Rest In Peace.

Ancient Christian Prayer.

your brother patrick
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: David In Indy on November 20, 2009, 03:53:59 am
I am so sorry to hear this Brother Patrick! What dreadful news! Is there any way we can help? Please let us know!

In the meantime I will keep you in my constant prayers!

I will also continue praying for the soul of your brother. I'm sure his time in Purgatory will be brief, if he isn't in Heaven already!

Come to his assistance you saints of God. Come forth to meet him you angels of the Lord. Receive his soul and offer it in the sight of the Most High. May Christ who has called him receive him and may the Holy Angels lead him into Abraham's bosom.

:'( :'(

Absolve oh Lord, the souls of all the faithful departed from every bond of sin. And by the help of Your Grace may they be enabled to escape the judgment of punishment. And enjoy the bliss of everlasting light.

Amen.

{{{BROTHER PATRICK}}}

I'm so sorry!

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Br. Patrick on November 20, 2009, 05:14:51 am
Much appreciated, my friend.  Please continue to keep his family in prayer.

your brother patrick
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Brown Eyes on November 20, 2009, 05:56:43 pm

I'm so sorry to hear about your loss Friend.  I'm sending along all my sympathies.

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Kerry on November 20, 2009, 06:59:52 pm

Please accept my heartfelt condolences on the loss of your brother, Brother Patrick. Nov 19 is a sad day for me also. It is the anniversary of my mother's passing.

On such anniversaries as these, I find comfort in the beautiful words of Kahlil Gibran. I hope they may bring you some comfort also. The final line of this quote, "And when the earth shall claim your limbs, then shall you truly dance," is inscribed on my mother's memorial plaque.

You would know the secret of death.
But how shall you find it unless you seek it in the heart of life?
The owl whose night-bound eyes are blind unto the day cannot unveil the mystery of light.
If you would indeed behold the spirit of death, open your heart wide unto the body of life.
For life and death are one, even as the river and the sea are one.

In the depth of your hopes and desires lies your silent knowledge of the beyond;
And like seeds dreaming beneath the snow your heart dreams of spring.
Trust the dreams, for in them is hidden the gate to eternity.
Your fear of death is but the trembling of the shepherd when he stands before the king whose hand is to be laid upon him in honour.
Is the shepherd not joyful beneath his trembling, that he shall wear the mark of the king?
Yet is he not more mindful of his trembling?

For what is it to die but to stand naked in the wind and to melt into the sun?
And what is it to cease breathing, but to free the breath from its restless tides, that it may rise and expand and seek God unencumbered?

Only when you drink from the river of silence shall you indeed sing.
And when you have reached the mountain top, then you shall begin to climb.
And when the earth shall claim your limbs, then shall you truly dance.

 
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: CellarDweller on November 20, 2009, 08:25:01 pm
Br. Patrick, I'm so sorry for your loss.

Keeping you in my thoughts and prayers.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Ellemeno on November 20, 2009, 08:39:59 pm
{{{{{{Brother Patrick and brother Jack}}}}}}
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: fritzkep on November 20, 2009, 09:16:54 pm
Praying for you and your brother, Brother Patrick.

Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: southendmd on November 20, 2009, 09:26:48 pm
So sorry for your loss, Brother Patrick. 

That photo is priceless.  I'm glad you have it.
Title: Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
Post by: Lynne on November 20, 2009, 10:22:19 pm
Dearest Brother Patrick,

I am so sorry to hear about your brother's death.  I know he'd been very ill for a long time, but I'm sure that doesn't make your loss much easier to bear.  Were you able to talk with him at all toward the end?

I think of you daily, and I love the photo you shared with us - like Paul said - priceless.  I know it seems like you're alone in the world now, but know that you've got a lot of people around here who love you a great deal.  I know it's not the same at all, but I'd be pleased if you could think of me as family of some sort.


[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mfumq24RE0&feature=related[/youtube]

I love you.  Be strong in your faith, my Friend.

Lynne
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Post by: Meryl on November 21, 2009, 02:32:31 am
Brother Patrick, my thoughts and prayers are with you as you grieve your dear brother.  May you find comfort and come to know beyond all doubt that you're never truly alone.

Meryl
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Post by: Br. Patrick on November 21, 2009, 04:23:43 am
I am simply overwhelmed with the support I'm getting from you all.  I DO think of you all as family and I pray for my "BetterMost Family" each and every day.  I have no more words.. just tears of gratitude.

your brother patrick
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Post by: serious crayons on November 21, 2009, 04:36:42 am
I'm so sorry to hear this news, Br. Patrick. My thoughts are with you.

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Post by: Kelda on November 21, 2009, 05:47:21 am
I am sorry to hear of your loss Brother Patrick.

All my love.

Kelda
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Post by: Br. Patrick on December 25, 2009, 04:32:53 am
Merry Christmas to ALL and a great 2010!

Much Love

br. p
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Post by: Lumière on February 23, 2010, 07:46:08 pm

Hey there Brother P.,

I am only just reading up on here and finding out about your brother's passing.
I am so sorry, friend.
Sending you my heartfelt condolences and warm hugs.



~M

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Post by: Br. Patrick on February 25, 2010, 03:09:35 am
Sending you my heartfelt condolences and warm hugs.

~M


Boy oh boy are they appreciated.   My brothers passing has hit me really hard.  I am dreaming about him in just about all my dreams.   I know he's 'home' but he was only 4 1/2 years older than me..

Much Love ~M

br. p
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Post by: Lynne on March 01, 2010, 09:28:55 am
Hey there, Friend,

Just a short note to let you know I miss our midnight chats.  We are so long overdue.

I am saddened to hear that you're having a difficult time with the loss of your brother.  I imagine it is only natural, but I wish for you solace and healing.  I will keep you in my prayers, or as the Quakers say..."I will hold you in the Light."

In addition to your birthday, we have another reason to celebrate today.  We've been here at BetterMost for four years now.  They've been four good years, filled with much laughter and support and friendship.  I love that we share our BetterMost-iversary!

Much love always,
Lynne



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Post by: Br. Patrick on March 01, 2010, 11:11:00 am
Lynne, if I were together enough to type I would send you a wonderful reply..   but have been in contact with my brother's wife and between her and me it is so hard.

Love and Prayers (4 years~!)

your brother patrick
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Post by: Lynne on March 01, 2010, 11:20:29 am
Lynne, if I were together enough to type I would send you a wonderful reply..   but have been in contact with my brother's wife and between her and me it is so hard.

Love and Prayers (4 years~!)

your brother patrick

That's all right, Brother Patrick.  No reply is required.  I'm just glad you're here and a Friend of mine.  We can talk when you're feeling better, however long it takes.

{{{{{{Patrick}}}}}}
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Post by: ifyoucantfixit on March 02, 2010, 04:20:32 am




     AS YOU KNOW, WE BOTH KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE TO LOSE A BROTHER.

                 I hope you become at peace with it soon.  I love you always. 

                                                                                          Janice
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Post by: Br. Patrick on March 02, 2010, 11:34:33 am



     AS YOU KNOW, WE BOTH KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE TO LOSE A BROTHER.

                 I hope you become at peace with it soon.  I love you always. 

                                                                                          Janice

My awesome butterfly what can I say?  I want my BRAIN back..


{{{{{   Janice    }}}}}
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Post by: CellarDweller on April 04, 2010, 10:05:55 am
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Post by: Br. Patrick on April 04, 2010, 11:50:48 pm
Happy Easter to ALL (& here's the GAYEST Easter picture I've ever seen.)    LOL

{{{Cyberhugs}}}

br. patrick
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Post by: Br. Patrick on August 03, 2010, 09:35:24 am
I am soon to arrive at the third anniversary of my life changing event.   It is amazing!  Every detail is still so incredibly clear.   But ask me what I did last week?   I dunno...

Much Love and Prayers

br. p
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Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on August 03, 2010, 11:08:36 am
Happy Anniversary friend and know I think of you often. Thank you for all your inspiration.
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Post by: Br. Patrick on August 03, 2010, 11:11:42 am
Great sign, huh?

Peace my friend~!

br. p
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Post by: Front-Ranger on October 26, 2010, 08:35:21 pm
There was an article about near=death experiences in today's Wall Street Journal. Eighteen hospitals have placed image posters on the ceilings of their emergency rooms in order to gauge whether people who are revived remember seeing them during out=of=body experiences. Interesting. 
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Post by: Br. Patrick on October 27, 2010, 01:53:00 am
Glad that people are taking these experiences to heart.  When I left I just didn't leave my room, I left the planet.  I clearly remember going through the wall of my bedroom.   And I remember bouncing around the universe from galaxy to galaxy all the while angels were singing to me.  When I think of that now, my consciousness must have been trillions and trillions of light years in size to travel that quickly.

Keep the comments coming!  And thanks for letting me remember that special time that was.. like the picture.

peace & prayers

br. p
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Post by: Lynne on March 01, 2011, 07:47:55 pm
Read your birthday thread :).

I miss our long chats. I hope you're well.

((((Patrick))))

:*:*:*:*
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Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on March 02, 2011, 12:36:36 am
You are an instrument.  ;)
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Post by: Br. Patrick on May 30, 2011, 03:03:28 pm
My dear Bettermost family,

This past week I gave my boss (my Abbot; my religious superior) the URL of this thread.   It felt right.  I have mentioned August 12, 2007 and my near-death experience to him many times and all of the healings that I received because of it.   It actually startled me to see that my blog has been accessed nearly 20,000 times!  I should have expected this but it still feels like a warm hug from the Divine.  What happens to me next will be based on his opinion of what I have been sharing here.   I am praying that the LORD will Engineer the Abbot's Circumstances according to HIS Will concerning me.   That is all that  _I_ need to do.  If the Spirit moves you, join me.

As for me, I am totally at peace, as usual.

Love to all who come here.    ::)

br. p
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Post by: Br. Patrick on September 05, 2015, 11:50:26 pm
"Engineer my circumstances, O Lord, according to Your Will"
The expressway to Romans 8:28

We've past 40,000.  Incredible.  But even this is just a 'pittance' compared to the secret number of people I was told that would be affected by this prayer via the Internet..
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Post by: CellarDweller on September 06, 2015, 02:55:44 pm
good to see you back, Br. Patrick
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Post by: Br. Patrick on September 07, 2015, 08:33:32 am
In a very real sense, I have never left.   THIS IS MY LEGACY.  I do log on from time to time to check numbers viewed.  I am always surprised when I am on at the same time a number of 'guests' are reading the blog.

AND I thank Phillip for keeping it alive

blessings from br. p
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Post by: Front-Ranger on September 07, 2015, 10:49:57 am
Friend br. Patrick, you are a blessing to this forum! I feel your presence, and your peace!
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Post by: CellarDweller on September 07, 2015, 12:11:05 pm
blessings back to you!