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Title: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Brown Eyes on September 18, 2007, 08:09:12 pm
Heya,

This question is an offshoot of the poll asking folks whether the like the Beatles or the Stones.  It has been suggested by our friend ineedcrayons that it might be interesting to find out which band members of each group BetterMostians favor.

Once you vote for your favorite, I thought it might also be fun to hear which member you like the least too.

Have fun!
8)


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This is a tough one for me.  I voted for Lennon as my favorite with Harrison as a close second.  I like both of them because they each seem very intelligent and I like Lennon's sense of humor.   My least favorite is McCartney.  I find him annoying.

Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Shasta542 on September 18, 2007, 09:09:29 pm
I was in the 3rd or 4th grade when the Beatles made it to America. What a riot they caused! We were crazy about them. Anyway, I remember that our teachers were directing us in a traditional Christmas play, and they wrote an extra segment to put in the play---and that new segment was all about the Beatles. haha Some of the boys had Beatle wigs and they played pretend guitar. It was funny.

I always liked Ringo the best. I really didn't dislike any of them, or have a least favorite. All the girls loved Paul and I did not want to be like them. Plus---drummers are just cool to me.  8)
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: serious crayons on September 19, 2007, 01:11:25 am
Obviously John and Paul were the most prolific, and they get a lot of points for that. They were just depthlessly creative.

But I'll have to say that overall I tend to love George's songs the most. Though more scarce, they're just more interesting, especially melodically, to me. In high school, I used to think that "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" was my favorite Beatles' song, and I'm not sure I've changed my mind.

After the Beatles broke up, I thought George's music was far superior to anybody else's. It was like John and Paul needed each other to balance each others' excesses -- on their own, one was too acerbic and cynical and the other too vapid and poppy (I'll leave it to you to guess which was which!   ;D ;)).

Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Brown Eyes on September 19, 2007, 01:13:38 am
At the moment, this is kind of fascinating that we have a 4 way tie!

Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Ellemeno on September 19, 2007, 01:56:37 am
I'll tell you what pisses me off - Paul McCartney selling his soul to Starbuck's AND Tully's AND iTUnes, all at the same time.  Isn't he rich enough yet?  And that little moue he is still doing after all these decades.  Feh.

Agree about the non-balance of John and Paul without each other.  Agree about Geroge's non-Beatles songs being the best.  "All Things Must Pass," for example.

The more I learn about "the fifth Beatle," George Martin, the more fascinating he seems.  Here's an odd parody of him:
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIA_NVFnXZ8[/youtube]


Oh, but I voted for John as favorite Beatle.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Brown Eyes on September 19, 2007, 01:59:11 am
I also concur... that when it comes to solo efforts, George wins hands down.

Both John and Paul got to be a little much in their solo careers.  As Elle points out... Paul definitely continues to be a little bit much (at least from my point of view).
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: serious crayons on September 19, 2007, 02:14:06 am
For Father's Day my kids bought my husband that CD, "Instant Karma," that compilation of John Lennon songs by various artists that raises funds for Darfur. I listened to it for the first time the other night. The two things that struck me were: 1) there were only a few songs on the album that were even remotely as good as the original  and 2) when it comes right down to it, there's only a very small handful of John Lennon songs I like, period.

"Imagine" is a beautiful song. But after that ... what? "Watching the Wheels" is pretty good. On the album, they actually had to repeat two songs. Of course, John's career was cut short ...  :'(

As Elle said, George has "All Things Must Pass." And then ... "What is Life" "Beware of Darkness" "Dark Horse" ... does "Badge" count? And then countless less prominent ones.

Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Ellemeno on September 19, 2007, 03:11:23 am
You ever have old family of origin emotions you want catharsis on, try the album "John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band."  Really, as a whole album it's incredible. 

Some John Lennon songs sans Beatles
Instant Karma
Happy Xmas (War is Over)
Give Peace A Chance
Working Class Hero
Power to the People (Which actually used to get played on the radio a lot.  Hard to Imagine that now.)
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: serious crayons on September 19, 2007, 10:13:41 am
All but Happy Xmas are on that tribute CD. For some reason, I couldn't remember whether Instant Karma was post-Beatles; anyway, U2 does a decent version of it there. And I think it's Green Day that does a pretty good Working Class Hero.

Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Brown Eyes on September 19, 2007, 02:29:29 pm
I quite enjoy Instant Karma.  It's one of my favorite solo Lennon tunes.
:)

Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Kerry on September 20, 2007, 12:54:48 am

 
:-*[[[Ringo!]]] :-*
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on September 20, 2007, 01:03:34 am




       This poll puts me in the mind of someone asking a parent which is their favorite child...!
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Ellemeno on September 20, 2007, 07:44:29 am
Good point, Janice!  :)
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: serious crayons on September 21, 2007, 04:34:20 pm
My favorite Monkee is Mike. 

I once would have said the same. I thought he was the cutest (though I always wished he would ditch the cap), the most talented ("Different Drum"! music videos!) and had the most inventive mom (Liquid Paper!).

But then a few years ago I interviewed Peter Tork by phone and was totally charmed. He was intelligent, candid, funny, friendly, self-deprecating, mildly flirtatious in a nice way and -- according to photos on his website -- still cute. So now he's my favorite. Who would have thought it would take 30 years to figure out my favorite Monkee!!



Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Brown Eyes on September 22, 2007, 02:50:23 pm


I like "Revolution" quite a lot.  I like the "grungier" sound to that track.


Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Lynne on September 22, 2007, 04:01:15 pm
Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
                    --John Lennon

Edit:  You go for grungy, Amanda...I'll go for sappy  ;) :-*
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: dot-matrix on September 22, 2007, 04:28:38 pm
I like Blackbird and Paperback Writer...  8)

Blackbird singing in the dead of night
Take these broken wings and learn to fly
All your life
You were only waiting for this moment to arise.

Blackbird singing in the dead of night
Take these sunken eyes and learn to see
All your life
You were only waiting for this moment to be free.

Blackbird fly Blackbird fly
Into the light of the dark black night.

Blackbird fly Blackbird fly
Into the light of the dark black night.

Blackbird singing in the dead of night
Take these broken wings and learn to fly

All your life
You were only waiting for this moment to arise
You were only waiting for this moment to arise
You were only waiting for this moment to arise.


Dear Sir or Madam, will you read my book?
It took me years to write, will you take a look?
It's based on a novel by a man named Lear,
And I need a job,
So I want to be a paperback writer,
Paperback writer.

It's a dirty story of a dirty man,
And his clinging wife doesn't understand.
His son is working for the Daily Mail
It's a steady job,
But he wants to be a paperback writer,
Paperback writer.
Paperback writer, paperback writer.

It's a thousand pages, give or take a few.
I'll be writing more in a week or two.
I could make it longer if you like the style.
I can change it 'round,
And I want to be a paperback writer,
Paperback writer.

If you really like it you can have the rights.
It could make a million for you overnight.
If you must return it you can send it here,
But I need a break,
And I want to be a paperback writer,
Paperback writer.

Paperback writer, paperback writer.
Paperback writer, paperback writer.
Paperback writer, paperback writer.
Paperback writer, paperback writer.
Paperback writer...



Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Brown Eyes on September 22, 2007, 05:06:45 pm
I like "All the Lonely People" too. 


Do folks have a favorite Beatles movie?

I've always loved Yellow Submarine and I quite enjoy the Monty-Python-esque humor in Hard Day's Night.
 :)
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Rayn on September 25, 2007, 01:45:34 pm
I saw them in 1965 at Shea's Stadium in New York, their last concert, I was 13 and screaming my head off ,, Paul, Paul... My mother was with me...  She smiled and looked confused!  LOL....I had his pics plastered all over my bedroom walls.  My Dad would come in sometimes, look around and leave shaking his head in disbelief.  LOL ... Poor Dad...

 Later, when I matured a bit, I realized John was way more profound and right on politically, so he became my fav, but I do love George now too for his deep spirituality, and Ringo for his fun loving personality.  I guess John is still my all time favorite, but I'm glad I got over Beatlemania!

I never want to be a teenager again!   :laugh:
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: serious crayons on September 26, 2007, 12:29:38 pm
And you interviewed him?  How cool!  What was it for?  If you published it, I'd really like to read it.

Sorry for the delay, SKJ. The piece ran a few years ago in the Carleton College alumni magazine, which assigned me to write about people who attended Carleton and became famous. I tried to get a copy of the published piece from the magazine's archives, but I couldn't access it, but here's what I wrote before it was edited, etc.
 
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He still gets recognized, nearly 40 years after his primetime gig in a made-for-TV rock band. He was in a Walmart in Bozeman, Mont., when a sharp-eyed clerk identified the now-62-year-old customer as former Monkee Peter Tork.
 “By the time it was all over,” he said, speaking by phone from California, “I think I’d signed more than a dozen autographs for women who’d grown up on the thing.”
 For those who didn’t, “The Monkees” was an NBC sitcom about a wacky rock band, loosely modeled after the Beatles. Tork played the cheerful mop-headed dimwit. It ran only from 1966 to 1968 (with rerun revivals in later decades) but was hugely popular, winning an Emmy, selling millions of records and turning its stars into teen idols. Overnight, the “folk-singing hippie kid” found his picture on lunchboxes across the country.
 Until then, fame had not been among Tork’s goals. “I did not give it any thought one way or another.”
   He was still Peter Thorkelson in the early 1960s at Carleton, where he performed in a small folk group, served as Friday morning DJ on KARL, and “chased women -- with zero success.” Exhilarated with college social life after living in a small town in Connecticut, he neglected his classes, with predictable results: “I flunked out.”
  He moved to New York and played guitar in Greenwich Village coffee shops. One day his friend Stephen Stills (later of Crosby, Stills and Nash) mentioned that he’d auditioned for a sitcom about a rock band.
 “Stills was turned down … he was told his hair and teeth wouldn’t work for television,” Tork said. “They asked if he knew anybody who looked like him whose hair and teeth were in order, and he called me.”
 Like some ancient precursor to reality TV, “The Monkees” straddled fiction and life. The band’s first album, with its hit single “Last Train to Clarksville,” topped the charts even before the show aired, though none of the four actors played on it (they did put on live concerts, and eventually recorded together). The fictional pop stars became actual ones, and Tork’s life changed instantly.
 “I couldn’t snag a date to save my ass and suddenly they were throwing themselves at me like there was no tomorrow,” he said.
 They, unfortunately, were shrieking teeny-boppers – underage and overwhelming. Tork recalls standing on a hotel mezzanine and spotting a few fans below. He beckoned them up for autographs, not realizing a much bigger crowd stood just out of view. Throngs pushed up the stairs, shoving Tork back against a railing for a few terrifying moments – “plucking at my shoes, shoving paper and pencils in my face so fast that I could barely make a checkmark on each one” – before security guards came to his rescue.
    Amid the frenzy, Tork had fun. “I loved making television, I loved making records, I loved the business of being on the road and entertaining.”
    After the series ended, Tork withdrew to the relative quiet of Marin County, Calif. He played in small clubs, dropped out of show business for a while, struggled with alcoholism (he’s been sober for 23 years), participated ambivalently in Monkees reunions. Nowadays, he tours the country with a blues band called Shoe Suede Blues. Although promoters occasionally tout his Monkees connection, Tork does not emphasize his past.
 “My fame has been almost no use to my Shoe Suede Blues life,” he said. “People who like the blues are a little bit snobbish about pop phenomena.”
 He’s content now with just enough fame as he needs to get gigs. “I think fame was just one of those chapters in my journey, for better or for worse."

Looking back, I see that for some reason I didn't include what I thought was one of his more memorable remarks. I asked if he still hung out with the other Monkees socially. He said, "Never have, never will." Even when the series was in full swing, he said, the Monkees weren't friends in real life, just coworkers.
 
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By the way, have you seen "Head"?

Nope.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Ellemeno on October 21, 2007, 03:27:38 am
That Davy Jones black & white number sure does sound like a Harry Nilsson song, a lot like the Courtship of Eddie's Father, in fact.

Favorite Beatle song, yeek, that's tough.  Have I already said I know all the Beatles birthdays, because back then when I learned something important to me, it stuck.

Favorite Beatles Songs, with Uber-Favorite Songs Bolded.
But it felt so wrong to leave almost any of them out.

A Day In The Life
Across The Universe
And I Love Her
Blackbird
Carry That Weight
Do You Want To Know A Secret
Eleanor Rigby
Fixing A Hole
For No One
Golden Slumbers
Good Day Sunshine
Here Comes The Sun
Here, There, And Everywhere
I Will
If I Fell
I'll Follow The Sun
I'm A Loser
I'm Happy Just To Dance With You
I'm Looking Through You
I'm Only Sleeping
In My Life
It's Only Love
I've Got A Feeling
I've Just Seen A Face
Julia
Martha My Dear
Mother Nature's Son
Mr. Moonlight
Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)
Revolution
Rock And Roll Music
Rocky Raccoon
Roll Over Beethoven
Run For Your Life
She Came In Through The Bathroom Window
She Said She Said
She's A Woman
She's Leaving Home
Something
Taxman
The Ballad Of John And Yoko
The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill
The End
The Fool On The Hill
The Long And Winding Road
The Night Before
The Word
Things We Said Today
This Boy
Till There Was You
Tomorrow Never Knows
Twist And Shout
Two Of Us
We Can Work It Out
When I'm Sixty-Four
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
With A Little Help From My Friends
Within You Without You
Yesterday
You Never Give Me Your Money
Your Mother Should Know
You're Going To Lose That Girl
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: serious crayons on October 22, 2007, 01:40:28 am
Ooh, fun! Here are my uber-faves, borrowing your list (no time to look up the whole catalogue) with uber-uber-favorites bolded and in 12-point!

A Day In The Life
Across The Universe
And I Love Her
Blackbird
Carry That Weight
Do You Want To Know A Secret
Eleanor Rigby
Fixing A Hole
For No One
Golden Slumbers
Good Day Sunshine
Here Comes The Sun
Here, There, And Everywhere
I Will
If I Fell
I'll Follow The Sun
I'm A Loser
I'm Happy Just To Dance With You
I'm Looking Through You
I'm Only Sleeping
In My Life
It's Only Love
I've Got A Feeling
I've Just Seen A Face
Julia
Martha My Dear
Mother Nature's Son
Mr. Moonlight
Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)
Revolution
Rock And Roll Music
Rocky Raccoon
Roll Over Beethoven
Run For Your Life
She Came In Through The Bathroom Window
She Said She Said
She's A Woman
She's Leaving Home
Something
Taxman
The Ballad Of John And Yoko
The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill
The End
The Fool On The Hill
The Long And Winding Road
The Night Before
The Word
Things We Said Today
This Boy
Till There Was You
Tomorrow Never Knows
Twist And Shout
Two Of Us
We Can Work It Out
When I'm Sixty-Four
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
With A Little Help From My Friends
Within You Without You
Yesterday
You Never Give Me Your Money
Your Mother Should Know
You're Going To Lose That Girl
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away





Now I'm so in the mood to rush out and listen to a Beatles greatest hits album!



Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Ellemeno on October 22, 2007, 07:31:14 am
I haven't seen my old Beatle records in years, but I can still remember so much about the covers.

I teetered back and forth about bolding A Day in the Life.  Something in me said I was tired of it.  I know, I know, it's the best song ever written.  Why oh why aren't the Beatles on iTunes?

Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: TheSandman on October 24, 2007, 09:02:47 am
While Lennon may have been the genius. I have to cast my vote for George, he was the spiritual one and wrote some brilliant songs.
R.I.P
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Scott6373 on October 24, 2007, 09:39:14 am
Lord I am ashamed to admit this, but I never liked thier music well enough to care about any of them.  While the rest of the world was getting down and egtting high, I was dressing up and singing Cunegonde's aria from Candide "Glitter and be Gay".

I think I missed a lot  :(
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Ellemeno on October 27, 2007, 03:36:19 am
Lord I am ashamed to admit this, but I never liked thier music well enough to care about any of them.  While the rest of the world was getting down and egtting high, I was dressing up and singing Cunegonde's aria from Candide "Glitter and be Gay".

I think I missed a lot  :(


Maybe, Bud, but while I was getting down and getting high, I was reading Candide in French.  And going to classical concerts.  But I learned all them Beatle songs long before I got high, when I was still a child.

And it's not too late if you don't want it to be.  Or it can be too late, and that's okay.  My German stepmother likes to say that the hardest part about living in America is all the choices we have here.

Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Ellemeno on October 27, 2007, 04:22:06 am

My German stepmother likes to say that the hardest part about living in America is all the choices we have here.




I just realized it sounded like I was implying that The Beatles and Candide are American!  :laugh:

Update: wait - you meant the Bernstein didn't you?  In which case, of course, it was American, and Leonard Bernstein, ain't no one cooler than he was, and he got stoned plenty, according to biographies I've read.  :)  So you didn't miss nothing.  And don't go getting stoned, Mister.  Sore throats and raspy voices.  And there's a reason they call it "wasted."  I haven't smoked dope since way back in the last century, 1987.  May 1987.  :)  Well, I prattled on, din' I?  :)

Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: serious crayons on October 27, 2007, 10:12:51 am
But I learned all them Beatle songs long before I got high, when I was still a child.

Me too!

Depends on your age, I think. If I'd been a little older, I would have been getting high and hearing the Beatles for the first time simultaneously.

Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Scott6373 on October 27, 2007, 10:22:42 am

I just realized it sounded like I was implying that The Beatles and Candide are American!  :laugh:

Update: wait - you meant the Bernstein didn't you?  In which case, of course, it was American, and Leonard Bernstein, ain't no one cooler than he was, and he got stoned plenty, according to biographies I've read.  :)  So you didn't miss nothing.  And don't go getting stoned, Mister.  Sore throats and raspy voices.  And there's a reason they call it "wasted."  I haven't smoked dope since way back in the last century, 1987.  May 1987.  :)  Well, I prattled on, din' I?  :)



Oh hell I can't get high anymore.  I would be asleep before I exhaled.  Of course I am aware of the Beatles music and have heard plenty of it, but usually not by choice.  Having had the immense pleasure of meeting and working with Mr. Bernstein, I can tell you first hand...the man was incorrigible.  Outrageously talented, but incorrigible.
Title: Re: Who is your favorite Beatle?
Post by: Ellemeno on November 02, 2007, 08:15:16 pm
Oh hell I can't get high anymore.  I would be asleep before I exhaled.  Of course I am aware of the Beatles music and have heard plenty of it, but usually not by choice.  Having had the immense pleasure of meeting and working with Mr. Bernstein, I can tell you first hand...the man was incorrigible.  Outrageously talented, but incorrigible.


I haven't gotten high since May 1987.

Wow, Scott!  Tell me about working with Leonard Bernstein?  How so, incorrigible?  What did you work with him on?  Where?