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I am not normally interested in the inane drivel that seems to spout from the lips of soap opera performers, but on some rare occasions, some of the storylines are actually interesting, the scenes poignant, the actors right on the spot from an emotional level. It was sad that no soap opera seemed to pursue a homosexual relationship though. Passions I believe was one of the first to look at this idea with some acceptance, but with a poor reaction in their demographic from what I understand (causing it to change channels several times).
Had I but realized it, As the World Turns made daytime history with the first gay kiss between two main characters this past August. The story of Luke and Noah is captivating, compelling, and hits the head of the nail straight-on in so many ways that it is sometimes unnerving. They must have a damn good writer. You can find most of the storyline of Luke and Noah on youtube, and the storyline has skyrocketed the viewership of the show, according to the performers blogs. (From what I understand the youtube version of the kiss was the second most viewed video for three days after showing, so the actors must be doing something right). Of the mail sent to the show in response to the gay kiss and its intricate storyline, the viewers seem to indicate close to 99% approval rating. Now we're getting somewhere.
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In youtube land, it seems that the Luke and Noah story is known as the Nuke story, apparently as an indication of the chemistry that seems to be present in their first encounters. Not to mention, the type of blasting effect it had on the social conventions of daytime dramas.
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Thanks for bringing my attention to this story, Daniel. Though The Young and the Restless was my soap back in my regular soap-watching days, I have seen As the World Turns from time to time, and it remains my aunt Carolyn's favorite daytime drama. But I had no idea of this exciting new storyline; I was aware of some daytime soap dealing with a lesbian character quite some time ago, but, apart from a guest appearance of RuPaul on, I believe, All My Children, I believe this is the first occasion for a gay male storyline to be dealt with in this genre. And a kiss, no less!
I think this is another solid illustration of the acceptance and even interest for lesbigay issues that has taken root in mainstream America. Boy, things sure have changed since when I was a kid!
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Rereading your initial post, Daniel, I noted your mention of Passions, a show with which I am not familiar. They actually had to change channels more than once because of a gay storyline/character? I guess I shouldn't be surprised--when I was growing up, it was not unusual to hear people react to homosexuality with undisguised contempt and loathing.
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Yes, I used to watch Passions for a bit when I was younger, the other ones were obviously much more complicated and had a whole lot of history going on in them that I wasn't aware of. Not that I needed to actually see much of the history; it seemed almost like every episode had bit of a recap session and made repeated references to the same event. Not that there's anything wrong with this, it just seemed a little sappy and unrealistic... lol.
My mother was into several of them right around when I was born, but she said she had to get off them because they were enveloping too much of her life. And I found it surprising that she remembered some of the main characters in As the World Turns including Cheri, whom I believe is Noah's mother. Her ghost is in the last youtube video I posted.
Also, to clarify things, Luke is the blond, Noah is the dark-haired.
One of the great things about Youtube is that the film-makers edit it pretty thoroughly, so that it is a continuous story of relevant scenes, instead of the jumbled jump-to-another-scene-as-soon-as-it-gets-interesting format you might be used to seeing during the daytime dramas.
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Rereading your initial post, Daniel, I noted your mention of Passions, a show with which I am not familiar. They actually had to change channels more than once because of a gay storyline/character? I guess I shouldn't be surprised--when I was growing up, it was not unusual to hear people react to homosexuality with undisguised contempt and loathing.
I am not certain why exactly it kept moving around. I believe CBS dropped it, then it was picked up for a bit by NBC, then dropped again and went to Sci-Fi channel for a bit (which is really weird), and then came back to CBS or wherever it is now. I'm not really certain about any of the channels except for the Sci-Fi thing. I could only surmise that the show was having difficulty finding or reaching a target demographic, and its viewership was down, which was why stations kept dropping it or trading it or whatever they were doing.
CORRECTION: Passions began on NBC, and was for a very long time in the same time slot as As the World Turns. It moved to Sci-Fi, then back to NBC, but can now only be found on Channel 101 on DirectTV. I'm still not certain why, but I imagine it was because As the World Turns had a more captivating storyline, even though Passions had the better looking guys, and thus ATWT had a wider viewership. After a little bit of research into the gay storyline that it had (has?), it seems like Vincent and Chad are a pursuit of the more adult themes of a gay storyline, while Luke and Noah's is more of a young love. Interesting enough, Passions never aired a gay kiss as far as I am aware and seemed to focus intently on the "forbidden" types of romantic and sexual liaisons between Vincent and Chad, possibly because Chad was married to one of the other main female characters (you'll forgive me if I can't remember the names). I have not watched Passions in some time and I had to do a bit of research to catch up with what is going on, but I think I remember a little bit of an unknown incest storyline, so it was kind of gross.
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Hey Daniel..
I'll check out these videos when I get home tonight.
It reminds me of the wonderful storyline on Coronation Street a few years ago about 2 lads (karl and Todd) falling in love. There is thread around here somewhere dedicated to their story. It was very well done as well.
Cheers,
~M
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Sigh, apparently the Nuke story was not continued on today's episode, but the preview for next week is rather disturbing... :(
I'll see if I can dig up some interesting youtube videos about the Nuke storyline for you.
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Here is the first time that Noah's character was introduced to the show, and his first encounter with both Maddie and Luke.
Notice how there is a lot more physical contact between Luke and Noah than between Maddie and Noah, even though it seems like it could go in either direction from here. I still think this is chemistry that has been present from the start.
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The second part of the storyline. Luke shows a little "disgust" (or perhaps jealousy) at Maddie's and Noah's special connection.
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Parts 3 and 4 of the Luke and Noah story.
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35 to 40 seconds into film 3, there's an interaction between Luke and Noah that's hard to describe. Either way, Noah is more than a little disturbed or saddened by it. I find this amazing because usually you can read soap opera emotional gestures like a book with huge block letters. This is subtle. It could be any number of things, but I think it has to do with the developing chemistry between them, or perhaps a silent pursuit of chemistry.
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The first sign of electrical chemistry. Look out Luke, that's more than a Herkimer diamond. Anyway, note the interaction between Luke and Noah right after "the touch". Noah becomes the pursuer until Luke pulls away, and more specifically Luke pushes him and Maddie together. Not the best move to make in the world, but not entirely disastrous.
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you are gonna make me start watching soaps aren't you?? >:(
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I may have to start videotaping this thing...
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Nah, Jess. Just subscribe to LukeVanFan's youtube channel. He/She edits out all the other storylines so you don't get too confused by the show, and you can get your Nuke fix for the day. I've discovered that edited soaps are the way to go, so you don't get caught up in one storyline just to get sidetracked by another one. CBS doesn't seem to mind (in fact they even promote it a bit on their own websites), and both the actors and writers are greatly appreciative of the fact that they have such a comprehending and admiring audience.
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Parts 5 and 6 of the Luke and Noah Story
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About 10 seconds into the film, Luke gets a dreamy look in his eyes when he tells Jade about Noah. He's got it bad.
At 1:20 to 1:30, Luke is describing his proposal, but he mainly seems to be interested in looking at Noah (not that I can blame him).
At 2:20 to 2:30, Luke seems to be spilling his heart to Noah, who is both interested and intrigued with a wide grin across his face. Pure emotional excitement or true happiness, so rare in our lives, shines forth like a sparkling beacon.
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No Luke in this one but the thing between Maddie and Noah is... doing something.
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Parts 7 and 8 of the Luke and Noah Story
Part 7 is just a little boring, with Luke still missing, but the thing between Maddie and Noah is still going on. Also makes a little bit more sense with the later scene in Part 8.
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Part 8:
40 seconds in: "Oh, so you guys are going to Branson together?"
A little bit of jealousy? on Luke's part, but he's had a tough week trying to sort out his feelings for Noah and what he's going to do about his straight-boy-crush.
1:12: Noah co-invites Luke to come with him and Maddie to Branson. I'm not certain if you've noticed it but Noah is pretty insistent on including Luke in a lot of things, and even spending more time with him than Maddie in some cases (see previous sections). Yes, its friendly, but Luke is becoming more and more attracted to Noah and its usually pretty difficult to hide that type of thing. So Luke tries to back out of many of those friendly gestures as quickly as possible.
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Parts 9, 10 and 11 of the Luke and Noah storyline
Parts 9, 10 and 11 seem to be entirely about Noah's involvement in the Cleo/Jade storyline, so boring again.... sigh....
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Edit: The conflict between Cloe and Jade may come back to haunt Luke and Noah. Luke is Jade's best friend and Noah and Maddie seem to be protective of Cleo. Of course, this being a soap opera, it could go anywhere from here.
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Towards the end of this section, Noah tells Maddie about a neighbor of his in glowing appraisal. At this point in the storyline, it may not mean anything... but it's definitely there for the writers to use at a later time if they decide to. Hopefully not making it too convoluted, but that seems to be the law of the land for soap operas. Convolution.
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Parts 12, 13, and 14 of the Luke and Noah storyline
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More boring stuff about Cleo and Jade... nothing really interesting going on.
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3:30: Noah runs into Gabe in Branson. Obviously something is going on here. Noah gives Gabe the half-closed eyes (symbolic focus on throat chakra) "shut up" look.
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0:25: Noah avoids Maddie's reference to Gabe.
More symbolic interactionism. I thought it would be a good idea here to review hand/body gestures. As I mentioned in an earlier segment, where we place our hand is often an indication of the direction of our inner purpose. But there are other interactions that we can see almost on a daily basis.
Hands clasped at base of spine: The block of creative energy. We generally do this when we are agitated or thinking sporadically. Sometimes it helps to calm us down, but more often than not it creates a build up of tension that can result in anger.
Hands clasped above pelvis: The block of sexual energy. This is something we do when we are in situations where we don't want our sexual energy to create tension that gets in the way of doing other things. It cannot usually be done for long periods of time without causing sexual health problems. (It seems that our sexual phyical body is much more responsive to sexual energy than other parts of our body are responsive to energy activated there.)
Arms crossed over solar plexus: The block of reception. This is a sign of refusal to believe. It is a defensive posture. People who do this a lot have a tendency to not be able to accept people at their word.
Arms crossed over chest: The block of loving energy. This is a sign of refusal to love someone. If a person is upset or angry with another person whom they normally would not be upset or angry with, this stance can allow their anger to manifest more rapidly. This is an agressive posture.
Hand to throat: The block of communicative energy. This is a sign of a person who wants to say something but for some reason feels it is important not to say it. Often shocked persons will make this stance, as they are sometimes uncertain of how to verbally respond to a situation.
Hand to forehead: The block of learning or mental energy. A person smacks themselves on the forehead when they are embarassed about a particular situation, usually when they act more stupid than they are genuinely capable of. Both the hand to the forehead and the smack are a symbolic attempt to end the learning procedure that is going on as a result of embarassment. (That tingly feeling in your head when you know you've just done something stupid is actually beneficial for you. Don't try to overcome it.)
Arms curled over head: The block of spiritual energy. People empowered by egoism often make this stance, relaxing their arms on top of their head. This is a stance of defiance, indicating a lack of need for any sustenance from a supernatural source.
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Parts 15, 16, and 17
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Pfft, ah well... not really anything here... lol
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Noah and Maddie.... and of course, Colonel Mayer.
Before this relationship thing with Maddie starts, I thought I would point out that Noah had come under severe restriction from his father... the last thing on his mind right then is trying to find out who he is... He is in a type of independence mode, one might think, attempting to acknowledge how he can sever himself from his father's instructions on a fast track. Of course, I don't think this is conscious at all, but more or less a subconscious response.
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Aha, Noah and Maddie are both declaring themselves... distancing themselves from their romantic and filial difficulties. Noah's subconscious response is now being verbalized in a big way. And of course, the sensations of independencing, or perhaps falling in love with the freedom of self, can sometimes be confused with falling in love with another person, especially when that experience is shared. The problem: Noah and Maddie haven't really examined themselves in their new-found independence to determine if their responses to one another are the real deal.
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Parts 18, 19, and 20 of the Luke and Noah Storyline.
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Hmmm, okay I guess you know by now, but overdramatic, hypersensitive Gwen and the overdramatic, hypersensitive Cleo are played by the same actress.
In the previous installment, Noah was confused by his own bedroom antics. Here, he once again is more eager to escape with Luke than stay with Maddie.
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This does repeat the end of part 18, so apologies for that.
Luke comes out to Noah towards the end of this part, who is still reeling in no small amount of confusion about his relationship with Maddie. The crinkling of the forehead above the bridge of the nose is a primary indication of confusion, as well as the deer-caught-in-headlights stare that he uses quite frequently. If you don't believe me, you can look at some previous footage of Noah and Maddie. Noah seems more like himself with Luke; he's not putting on a show about his favorite movies, like he does with Maddie.
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Okay, this doesn't really have much to do with the Luke and Noah storyline, but it looks like the Cleo/Gwen/Jade controversy is going to wrap up quickly.
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Parts 21, 22, and 23 of the Luke and Noah storyline.
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Okay, parts 21 and 22 are all about Gwen and Jade getting loose from the traintracks, and Cleo singing in place of Gwen at the concert. So there's not much really going on here. We can skip it.... It's fluff and filler for those who may have been captivated by the dangerous situation that is evolving here. (Not I, this is... contrived.)
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Part 23 officially ends the Gwen, Jade, and Cleo arc.... (thank God). But at least we know that Luke and Noah work well together.
"What the world needs now... is love, sweet love. No, not just for some, but for everyone."
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Part 24 of the Nuke Storyline...
Now that the other story arc is *ahem* out of the way, perhaps Luke and Noah can finally get together...
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Or perhaps, Noah is going to be so distraught by the way his father is treating him, his broken dreams and ambitions, and by his co-dependent search for independence with Maddie that he will do anything to get into a normal life. For many gay youths (including myself), this is perhaps the greatest spiritual danger of coming out, or not coming out, as the case may be. The mind has a great ability to subdue unwanted thoughts and feelings through denial and self-supression. But as we ultimately discover, struggle against our inner nature is not at all beneficial and prevents us from being who we are meant to be.
This is a really very good emotional part of this storyline. Luke and Jade say their farewells and Noah is momentarily torn in pursuing a relationship with Maddie. Maddie herself is still confused and uncertain in her own life.
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Parts 25, 26, 27, and 28 of the Noah and Luke Storyline...
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And then finally to some juicy tidbits in Parts 27 and 28.
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Parts 29 and 30 of the Luke and Noah Storyline...
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An interesting question from a fellow viewer on this one: maybe this is a dumb question but when noah compliments him, why does luke say you're making it worse? Wouldnt it make him feel better?
The answer: No. That just causes unwanted feelings to rise to the surface again, which is not how Luke is trying to get by this. Push it down, resist, survive, until you can forget the emotional angst of wanting to be with someone you can never be with.
Hmm, a bit of missing dialogue. Let's see if I can fill in the gaps.
Noah:
Yeah, I know exactly how you feel.
Luke:
(Incensed) No, you don't! Look at you, you've got everything!
Noah:
(laugh of disbelief) Huh, I wish I did.
Luke:
(Shakes his head and starts to walk off)
Noah:
Hey! Wait a minute. You don't know about me.
Luke:
(sighs) You wanna tell me about it? We need a break anyway.
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More missing dialogue.... sigh.
From 1:25 into it, folks....
Noah:
That's up to you.
Luke:
(looks down, upset with himself.
He suddenly starts to go back to the interns' office.)
Noah:
(Walks after him.)
You don't want to be friends?
Luke:
(Trying to be kind, Luke puts his hand on Noah's shoulder)
I don't think... we really can be friends.
Pick up again at 1:29 into it.
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Parts 31 and 32 of the Luke and Noah Storyline...
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0:25 Luke: Oh, well I - I thought you wanted to work as much as possible until classes started.
Stuttering of "I": Possibly a preconscious shift of focus from other to self back to other.
In response to what Noah just told him, I don't think Luke is happy to see Noah go.
4:03 Noah once again excuses himself to be with Luke.
4:05 Luke looks back at Noah as if he can't believe it.
5:08 Maddie: This thing with Noah - it kind of feels like we're forcing it.
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Part 32 just linkes 31 and 33 and doesn't really have much Luke and Noah.
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Parts 33 and 34
I posted part 34 earlier, but I'm going to post it again here and delete the previous post so the whole thing flows.
Hmmm, I had never thought that researching symbolic interactions in soap opera scenes would be interesting... but perhaps that was because the emotional reality of soap opera performance is already seriously overplayed. But on some occasions, as I mentioned earlier, symbolic interactionism can reveal a depth of interplay that was not immediately visible.
We'll have to go to one of August's episodes (pre-kiss) to really look at some of the interesting things that can become visible in the second level of conscious understanding... which I think might perhaps be considered the preconscious... that level of consciousness where Freudian slips originate. (Not the subconscious.)
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Some of these comments are not my original ones, and have been borrowed from another source, the original poster of this video on youtube. Actually, I guess most of them are. The ones in blue are my own observations.
Edit: The times listed are the times from the beginning of the program, so subtract that number from the total time to find the actual time stamp of occurrence.
2:24
Maddie: "With all the skeletons I have in my closet..."
Not much needs to be said here.
3:25
Maddie: "I don't really see my fairy tale ending in the future anytime soon."
(Maddie and Noah were involved in a relationship shortly after his character was first introduced to the series, although the chemistry between Luke and Noah has always been present).
The original poster thought that the use of "fairy" was noting the significance of the gay relationship.
3:53
Gwen to Maddie: "Who knows, something might surprise you..." (This is actually just poor foreshadowing on the part of the writers, although perhaps important for anyone who might have missed earlier episodes).
7:38
Noah: "The A/C at my place is a joke"
The original poster indicated that the use of AC/DC is a reference to bisexuality, with AC indicating a heterosexual relationship. Is Noah saying that his heterosexual relationship is a joke?
9:14
Noah: "Maddie's right, can it be any hotter out here?"
After a rather intense sequence of mutual admiration, this question is dripping with double meaning.
9:19
Luke: "The water will feel really good."
This is not a double en tendres, but rather a deeper symbolic reaction. In subconscious imagery, water is often associated with sexuality or sensuality.
9:25
Noah: "Who needs A/C when you have your own pond?"
(See previous notes about AC and water.)
I'm sure there is a greater depth of meaning and symbolic imagery present in the last few scenes of this episode. (The food, for example), but despite my long studies in this subject I cannot immediately recall what their importance might be. I am actually wondering if there really is any particular depth of symbolic imagery in this show, as most of what I have come across are preconscious interactions rather than subconscious.
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Parts 35 and 36 of the Luke and Noah storyline. (Part 34 was originally merged with 33 above, but somehow got divided up again.)
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2:13 into it: Noah actually rejects the idea of including Luke.... It's a bit too late to start distancing yourself now, isn't it?
Try not to be too insulted by the Brokeback moment, now that that film is part of the cultural context I'm sure we'll be seeing a lot of Brokeback Mountain references imported casually and intentionally.
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Of course, poor Noah is undoubtedly confused and uncertain about what to do regarding his emotional life, but I don't think that gives him a good reason to ruin Maddie's life too.
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Parts 37 and 38 of the Luke and Noah storyline
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You only have to pay attention to the eye movements to realize that these are phenomenal actors. The writing is a bit overdramatic though, but I think thats normal for a soap opera.
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Parts 39, 40, and 41 of the Luke and Noah storyline
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Yes, part 41 is the one that made Daytime history, in a good way.
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Parts 42, 43, and 44 of the Luke and Noah storyline
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There are so many things that are just wrong in these segments, and everyone knows it.
Like most soap opera episodes, its a circus of deception and self-deception. Fortunately, not everyone's been hoodwinked into hoodwinking.
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Parts 45, 46, and 47 of the Luke and Noah storyline...
Hmm, I guess it is a tad bit addictive, but that must be good soap opera writing.
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Parts 48, 49, and 50 of the Luke and Noah storyline.
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Actually, before we get into part 49 and 50, here's a little bit of fanmade comedy that uses the scenes from 47 and 48. Nothing too graphic, but the context is hilarious. Please note, this is pure comedy and not something to emulate in real life.
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Parts 51, 52, and 53 of the Luke and Noah storyline.
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0:17 into it Noah gets jealous.... of Luke.
4:37 Noah's jealousy continues.
Interesting mis-step on the part of the writers, unless things have gotten a whole lot more interesting since I've been in school. "One of the gay and lesbian tables." I'm immediately thinking, How many are there? When I went to a small, local state school, there was only one...
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Parts 54, 55, and 56 of the Luke and Noah storyline.
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Parts 57, 58, and 59 of the Luke and Noah storyline.
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Parts 60, 61, and 62 of the Luke and Noah storyline.
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Parts 63, 64, 65, and 66 of the Luke and Noah storyline. (We're almost caught up, folks)
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I had posted part 66 earlier, so I'll repost it here and then delete it, so the whole thing flows.
The second kiss (which is always slightly more intimate and probing than the first) aired today for a brief 2 seconds before Noah's father (shiver) barged in on them, ending today's episode. You'll have to scroll to the very end of the show to see the good stuff.
EDIT: CBS is cheating us! Compare the two scenes. The first one is the aired episode. The second one is the original recording.
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Pay no attention to Luke reaching for a statistics textbook to study for a literature exam. Its hard to think straight when the hearthrob of your life is across the room let alone six inches away.
Either that, or he said INT exam, which isn't usually what it's called, INT being one of the few constants used in interest calculation.
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Parts 67, 68, and 69 of the Luke and Noah storyline.
I had posted these before, but I'll repost them again and get us caught up.
Today's episode featured nearly 15 minutes of Nuke related material. That's about half the show once you put in the commercials. For those of you who can't wait to see what Colonel Senior Psychopath is going to do after that revelation, here are the relavant scenes. Now don't get hooked, people. I'm a philosopher not a soap-pusher.
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More missing dialogue.... sigh. The writers wanted to follow Maddie and Colonel Psychopath.
Stamp 2:34 Noah
We kissed each other, Luke, and I don't regret that.
Luke
(tries not to look at Noah's lips, failing miserably)
Noah
That was the best thing that happened to me, in a long time.
Luke
(happy sigh through nose... still finding it difficult to concentrate)
So what now?
Noah:
(tears himself away from Luke's eyes, though it is difficult for him)
I'm not sure, really. I mean.... I still love my dad.
(Noah is completely miserable, sits down)
Stamp 1:12 Luke:
(sits down on the arm of Noah's chair, puts his arm around Noah's shoulders)
It's obvious that your father loves you.
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I think its adorable how Luke is always taking the supportive role in the relationship, never really demanding anything from Noah. Hmm, I'm not sure that that makes much grammatical sense but I'm not going to change it now.
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Parts 70, 71, and 72 of the Luke and Noah storyline.
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There's a slight deterioration in sound quality when Luke's voice becomes a lot deeper. This isn't a voiceover, just a little sound glitch.
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Another opportunity to compare CBS's censored version with the original recording, although its possible that there was a sudden change in the script too that the original recording didn't fit in with. The aired version is on the left, the original recording is on the right.
Missing dialogue? There's something a bit discordant here, the scenes aren't meshing as well as they could.
Luke:
I guess people really can change their minds and come around.
Noah:
Yeah, well, I did.
Luke:
Yeah.... and I'm glad!
(Noah and Luke lean forward to kiss)
Colonel Meyer
(eavesdropping at window, suddenly turns and heads back in, banging the door loudly)
Oh sorry... Luke? North is...
(pointing)
that way, right?
(Luke and Noah jerk apart. Luke lifts a hand up behind his head, embarrassed)
Luke:
Umm, yeah. That's right.
Colonel Meyer:
(vicious smile)
I'm just getting my bearings straight.
(goes back outside, banging the door noisily)
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Parts 73, 74, and 75 of the Luke and Noah Storyline
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Luke whispers "I don't know." to his sister's inquiry. (It's a little difficult to hear).
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The woman crumpled on the floor is Luke's aunt. That was continued from a scene in an earlier episode that I didn't include because it didn't have very much to do with the Luke and Noah storyline. Yes, Colonel Psychopath clubbed her. Why? Guess we'll find out.
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Parts 76, 77, and 78 (And we are now officially caught up)
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Ah, Colonel Meyer... thats not how you hold a gun, let alone shoot one. Suspension of disbelief, suspension of disbelief.
Ah, he's left handed and has a glass right eye. That's it... the only explanation.
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Damn you, Daniel!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I spent the better part of a whole DAY catching up with this stuff and you leave me with THIS!???!!! ::) :D :D
Sigh...Luke and Noah - very hot, not nearly enough kisses, and too much other people angst to slog thru ::).
And what about Dusty? Man, that dude does it for me in a big way also. :D
This just ain't right.
(Rant over)
Seriously nice to see a daytime drama to feature a homosexual relationship so progressively and appropriately characterize the homophobe as psycho. Good story line and I'm happy to see so many people invested in Luke and Noah's story over in that poll.
Thanks very much for sharing all this with us.
Anyone else notice Luke searching the fridge for a condiment? :D
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There is just WAY too much food in that fridge.
Here's an interview with Van Hansis (Luke)
Van Hansis "Plays" Along
AS THE WORLD TURNS' Van Hansis (Luke) kicks off a five-month run in the off-Broadway production of offbeat play Die Mommie Die! this month in New York City, but the über-busy actor found some time to give a little introduction to Lance — and the lowdown on Luke.
Soap Opera Weekly: What's your role in Die Mommie Die! like?
Van Hansis: Lance is a guy who may have fetal alcohol syndrome. He's not the brightest person in the universe and has rage and OCD and is kind of a big slut. The genre is very different, but it's like a soap opera. There's this family that's trying to kill each other; they're this rich family in L.A. who have all these dark secrets. It's a raunchy comedy that takes place in 1968, so it's Old Hollywood versus the '60s revolution. It's fun. I honestly have no idea how to explain it. It's very out there and it's very campy.
Weekly: In other words, you're playing the polar opposite of Luke?
Hansis: Lance, my character, is a big hedonist; all he likes to do is have fun. Luke is always torturing himself about something.
Weekly: Luke's getting stronger, though, right?
Hansis: Yeah, I love playing Luke being strong, getting stronger. Luke's growing some b----, and it's about damn time, you know?
Weekly: Do you have to switch gears when you go from the show to the play?
Hansis: A little bit. It's a different vocabulary. We were blocking some scene and I was like, "Who will cue me on?" and they were like, "Nobody, you just have to listen." I'm so used to having somebody tell me when to enter a scene.
Weekly: Lance sounds like a wacky guy.
Hansis: Oh, yeah, he is. He's having a lot of fun. He gives his mom LSD. He's funny.
Weekly: Could Lily use a little acid?
Hansis: Well, I wouldn't want to see Lily on LSD (laughs).
Weekly: But people certainly want to see more of Luke and Noah.
Hansis: Honestly, I'm not going to say I'm surprised, because I'm not. If you tell a good story, good feedback will happen. The writing is really incredible. There's always these questions about whether the audience is ready for this [relationship] and yeah, I think they are. There's a big faction of people who have been waiting for this for years and years, and the story hasn't been told. Now that it's finally being told people are tuning in. I get so much fan mail from people who are like, “I started watching ATWT because of Luke and Noah.”
Weekly: It's not going to be an easy road for the two of them, is it?
Hansis: It will be a rocky road, I'm sure, but an easy road's a boring road!
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Damn you, Daniel!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I spent the better part of a whole DAY catching up with this stuff and you leave me with THIS!???!!! ::) :D :D
Sigh...Luke and Noah - very hot, not nearly enough kisses, and too much other people angst to slog thru ::).
I know, and this is a trimmed down version. The youtube poster edited everything out that wasn't somehow connected to Luke and Noah. It still got convoluted, though, didn't it? Recapping on Colonel Meyer. He's killed Cheri (Noah's mom), and managed to plant evidence framing Dusty. He's mortally wounded Dusty (as far as we know). He's savagely attacked Luke's aunt, who is now in a comatose state, and has deadly plans for Luke. This man does not play nice.
And what about Dusty? Man, that dude does it for me in a big way also. :D
This just ain't right.
(Rant over)
Seriously nice to see a daytime drama to feature a homosexual relationship so progressively and appropriately characterize the homophobe as psycho. Good story line and I'm happy to see so many people invested in Luke and Noah's story over in that poll.
Thanks very much for sharing all this with us.
I am with you on this one. This whole storyline feels "appropriate", everything in it so far is spot on. It's really good how this drama is really demonstrating the beautiful goodness and uniqueness that Luke and Noah exemplify in their lives and their relationship. (Even if Noah did get a shaky start... the errors in his previous choices really humanize the character. And he apologized for them... genuinely and purposefully.) You don't see this type of relationship very often in daytime dramas. The deceptions don't go on forever... It's just a noble, wholesome, innocent, gay relationship... And it's beautiful, and it's good.
I'm a little worried about what is going to happen to Luke. So we will have to wait til Monday or whenever to find out.
By the way, the Luke and Noah storyline now spans about 6 hours.
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... It's just a noble, wholesome, innocent, gay relationship... And it's beautiful, and it's good.
I believe the quote is "It's beautiful and funny and good." ;)
I'm a little worried about what is going to happen to Luke.
You and me both because the Colonel is one evil bastard - Del Mar, Senior variety. Being a daytime drama, they'll drag it out for oh, years, likely. I'm voting that Luke gets seriously wounded, Noah nurses him back to health, but he's got amnesia... ::)
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Here's a little fanvid someone made when I asked them to... I love it. The music blares a little though, so you might need to turn it down a bit.
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Can't Fight This Feeling by Reo Speedwagon
I cant fight this feeling any longer
And yet Im still afraid to let it flow
What started out as friendship, has grown stronger
I only wish I had the strength to let it show
I tell myself that I cant hold out forever
I said there is no reason for my fear
Cause I feel so secure when were together
You give my life direction
You make everything so clear
And even as I wander
Im keeping you in sight
Youre a candle in the window
On a cold, dark winters night
And Im getting closer than I ever thought I might
And I cant fight this feeling anymore
Ive forgotten what I started fighting for
Its time to bring this ship into the shore
And throw away the oars, forever
Cause I cant fight this feeling anymore
Ive forgotten what I started fighting for
And if I have to crawl upon the floor
Come crashing through your door
Baby, I cant fight this feeling anymore
My life has been such a whirlwind since I saw you
Ive been running round in circles in my mind
And it always seems that Im following you, girl
Cause you take me to the places that alone Id never find
And even as I wander Im keeping you in sight
Youre a candle in the window on a cold, dark winters night
And Im getting closer than I ever thought I might
And I cant fight this feeling anymore
Ive forgotten what I started fighting for
Its time to bring this ship into the shore
And throw away the oars, forever
Cause I cant fight this feeling anymore
Ive forgotten what I started fighting for
And if I have to crawl upon the floor
Come crushing through your door
Baby, I cant fight this feeling anymore.
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I believe the quote is "It's beautiful and funny and good." ;)
You and me both because the Colonel is one evil bastard - Del Mar, Senior variety. Being a daytime drama, they'll drag it out for oh, years, likely. I'm voting that Luke gets seriously wounded, Noah nurses him back to health, but he's got amnesia... ::)
Is THAT where I got it from? I've been saying "It's beautiful, and it's good" for some time now... lol... Didn't connect it with Latter Days though.
Is it funny? I guess it is in a way... but some parts are sad too... beautifully so. I'm one of these people that thinks sad is beautiful... a Lacrimanphile. (lover of tears)
Some of the Nuke fans think that Luke will be paralyzed (see the preview at the end of the last part) and that Noah nurses him back to health... basically as a way of extending the romance before the sex lovemaking scene, so that its (and I'm gonna quote it here) "really LOVE and not just SEX".
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but she said she had to get off them because they were enveloping too much of her life.
Can you imagine such a thing happening to someone? :laugh:
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Parts 79 and 80 of the Luke and Noah story... If its going slow (due to massive download), play it a bit then rewind it to the beginning.
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I think there's another part coming today, but not sure...
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Damn you, Daniel!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I spent the better part of a whole DAY catching up with this stuff and you leave me with THIS!???!!! ::) :D :D
Sigh...Luke and Noah - very hot, not nearly enough kisses, and too much other people angst to slog thru ::).
And what about Dusty? Man, that dude does it for me in a big way also. :D
This just ain't right.
(Rant over)
Seriously nice to see a daytime drama to feature a homosexual relationship so progressively and appropriately characterize the homophobe as psycho. Good story line and I'm happy to see so many people invested in Luke and Noah's story over in that poll.
Thanks very much for sharing all this with us.
Anyone else notice Luke searching the fridge for a condiment? :D
Yeah, what she said, i done sat here all evening soaking this up like a sponge, thankful some of it was missing sound and make me jump ahead and damn, all the hell the wasps can do is kill the out guy. I should have never started, now I'll waste tomorrow night watching what happens. Damn soap operas. I thought them things were 20 years behind me.
Fuck!
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Can you imagine such a thing happening to someone? :laugh:
Actually I can imagine this. When soap operas are very well written, and trust me, these guys are excellent writers or they wouldn't still be employed, soap operas are like multi-layered decadent, rich chocolates. Only as soon as you finish one layer and begin to taste the next one, they come along and take it out of your mouth. So yes, I can see how a person can get really wrapped up in this.
Yeah, what she said, i done sat here all evening soaking this up like a sponge, thankful some of it was missing sound and make me jump ahead and damn, all the hell the wasps can do is kill the out guy. I should have never started, now I'll waste tomorrow night watching what happens. Damn soap operas. I thought them things were 20 years behind me.
Fuck!
Alright, calm down. Try going back and seeing if the sound will work on the other ones now... this is an important storyline, and those precious Nuke moments are rare and far between. Before you start gettin worried about the "out guy", go back and really look at their lives and how rich and complex they are, and how much more meaningful Luke and Noah are making each others lives. That's the whole point of the relationship-thingy.
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That was nicely done! The two actors definitely have chemistry together...
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Yes, I agree with you there... they're phenomenal actors... The characters are so deep and realistic, so many levels of things that they're still hiding from each other because of whatever.
Luke for example, keeps putting his hands in his pockets and shrugging his shoulders together and cringing his head down a bit. That's an interesting symbolic interplay for "Don't pay attention to me." or "I don't deserve the attention I'm getting." more likely. And what's more, he keeps doing it when Noah wants to kiss him... so I still think poor Luke has some stuff in his head he needs to work out.
Noah, on the other hand, is a little more brass and direct, which might be a very good sign usually. Except he doesn't seem to want to talk about his past much, and I think that something might catch up to him a little later on. If we can remember back to Noah's first appearance, he seemed quite reluctant to tell Maddie and Luke what was keeping him in Branson, or why it was so difficult to get out of Missouri. And Colonel Meyer later confirmed that Noah was "hanging out with the wrong crowd" in Missouri.... so there's something going on there that could rear its ugly head in the near or distant future.
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This IS televised every weekday, right? Where are my clips? Do I have to go to YouTube and find them myself??? ::) :D :D ;)
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Yesterday's episode was all about Jack and Carly (Churchlady: Isn't That Special?).
Noah and Luke will be on today, Thursday, and Friday.
Edit: Changed "How Special! to "Isn't That Special?" for correct Churchlady verbage.
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Yesterday's episode was all about Jack and Carly (Churchlady: Isn't That Special?).
Noah and Luke will be on today, Thursday, and Friday.
Just making sure you're still on the job! :laugh: :laugh:
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Oh yes... still on the job.
I've been arguing with some of the other youtubers. They think that Noah's lack of emotional response to what's going on is totally unrealistic.
I've tried to point out to them that Noah is exhibiting all the characteristics of a person in shock so its very realistic. Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if Noah goes out and does something totally stupid since he is in shock. Oh right, back to the argument: I'm getting through to some of them, though... so that's good.
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Parts 81, 82, and 83 of the Luke and Noah storyline
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Whoever is writing the wikipedia entry for Noah's character is amazingly accurate.... The whole storyline that I've been sharing with you through videos, is there. And apparently Luke's given name is Luciano Eduardo Grimaldi.
Looks like Dusty is going to be keeping a paternal eye on Noah for a while, though that might make things really tense for the Snyders. Lily's affair with him might not have concluded yet.
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Thanks for the update, Daniel! :D
Of course, Noah's reactions are completely appropriate for dealing with the shocks he's been dealt one on top of the other!
Would someone please put Colonel Mayer out of my misery for me? There are no words for his lowliness...sub-pondscum...ah but I'm sure he's just a product of his own misguided upbringing blahblahblah.
And I think the Dusty/Noah mentoring relationship might be a really good thing...how are we going to get Dusty-related clips too? Or do I gotta get a DVD-R or TIVO? :laugh:
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Well I haven't been following the Dusty line, apparently he's having several torrid affairs right now... :D... which can make things really bad later on. I guess if you want me to look for them I can...
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Parts 84, 85, 86, and 87 of the Luke and Noah storyline.
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Sorry, Lynne... it looks like there are hundreds of youtube videos about Dusty... so in the interest of keeping confusion at a minimum, I hope you'll be satisfied with Dusty's involvement in the Luke and Noah storyline.
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Thanks for bringing my attention to this story, Daniel. Though The Young and the Restless was my soap back in my regular soap-watching days, I have seen As the World Turns from time to time, and it remains my aunt Carolyn's favorite daytime drama. But I had no idea of this exciting new storyline; I was aware of some daytime soap dealing with a lesbian character quite some time ago, but, apart from a guest appearance of RuPaul on, I believe, All My Children, I believe this is the first occasion for a gay male storyline to be dealt with in this genre. And a kiss, no less!
I think this is another solid illustration of the acceptance and even interest for lesbigay issues that has taken root in mainstream America. Boy, things sure have changed since when I was a kid!
I'm not much of a soap opera watcher, but I do want to point out about All My Children... that yes, for several years now they've had a major lesbian character and she's actually a major figure in the cast. She's Bianca, the daughter of Erica Kane/ Susan Lucci's character. They've given her complex story-lines and she's had several lesbian relationships depicted.
I don't follow it too closely, so I don't really know all the details and I can't really comment on how much I "approve" of their handling of her character. But as a lesbian, interested in the depiction of gay women in the mass media... this was a huge decision and step for All My Children to take... since anything having to do with the character of Erica and her immediate family is major. The thing I like about the way Bianca's character seems to fit in the overall scheme of the soap opera is that her stories seem to be treated with the same sense of drama and complexity as the straight characters and her stories are interwoven with the plot-lines of other characters... essentially just like other characters in the show. I do remember that the debut of Bianca's character as a lesbian on All My Children dealt a lot with coming-out issues. So much so that it made the general talk-show circuit. I recall interviews on various talk shows with Susan Lucci and the actess who played Bianca talking about this feature of the plot line. I used to follow All My Children specifically because of Bianca's character for a while in grad school when my schedule was flexible. But, now that I work full time I can't devote the time or energy to a daytime soap.
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Thanks for that, Amanda... I didn't know anything about it... I usually stay away from soap operas just because the storylines are so unbelievable and contrived.... Thats why I was surprised when I started getting really emotionally involved with the Luke and Noah storyline.
If you want to research it more, maybe we can get our own little subforum going about daytime dramas and their presentation of "gay issues".
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Thanks for that, Amanda... I didn't know anything about it... I usually stay away from soap operas just because the storylines are so unbelievable and contrived.... Thats why I was surprised when I started getting really emotionally involved with the Luke and Noah storyline.
If you want to research it more, maybe we can get our own little subforum going about daytime dramas and their presentation of "gay issues".
That's a great idea Daniel! As silly as soap operas are (in general) the inclusion of major gay characters really does seem to speak to important issues about visibility for the gay and lesbian community. Soap operas are also so "mainstream" that including gay characters also seems to be some sort of interesting social gesture/ step.
But, yeah, Bianca's lesbian plot-line's been around for at least 3 or 4 years. But, as I mentioned, I haven't watched All My Children for a long time now... so I'm not at all sure what's going on with her character now. I do remember watching one long plot-line involving her breaking up with her first girlfriend... and they dealt with it in very complex (and relatively good) ways.
I'll never forget those interviews on like the Today show and things like Regis (maybe, I'm forgetting the exact shows) several years ago... where Susan Lucci and the actress who plays Bianca (at the time that the character was "coming out") would come on and chat about Bianca's issues. I mean they were two straight actresses trying to talk about coming out issues for adolescent lesbians. They were odd interviews, but generally very well-intentioned I think.
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I guess I'm just really interested in the differences between the Noah and Luke storyline and Bianca's storyline, and Chad and Vincent's storyline on Passions. With the little research that I did into looking into the Chad and Vincent storyline, it seemed to me like they were completely downplaying the emotional side of that relationship and focusing entirely on the sexual, but then again, considering the types of storylines that were on Passions, I think that might be par for the course.
Either way, I think I quickly learned that Passions did not have very interesting storylines because the physicality and sexuality of the relationships were so overhyped - it was downright stressful. Eventually, it got to the point where I was cheering for Haley Mills as the witch Tabetha. She and her talking doll were the only reasons I kept watching the show, until even that storyline got completely out of hand, (or boring as hell, I can't remember which).
I guess that's why I think Luke and Noah's romance is so special. It's just that - romance. Someone put on the hazy 70's dreamtime filters. I think this is what a lot of people knew was missing from the storylines on Passions... Just good old romance - one person caring for another person, without pretenses, without an overvamped sex-drive, without expecting anything from the one you love except perhaps that they love you in return... It's almost like a fairy tale, in that respect, but so many of us in the real world want that fairy tale, its not too difficult to see why we might be captivated by it... And perhaps overall, this type of relationship is a good thing.... by sometimes providing a good example for the way relationships can turn out.
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Here's what imdb says about the actress (turns out her name is Eden Riegel) who originally played Bianca. [I'm copying and quoting the little bio from imdb's website http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0726180/bio (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0726180/bio) ]
"Eden Sonja Jane Riegel was born on January 1, 1981 in Washington D.C.
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She attended the New York's Professional Children's School, then prestigious Harvard University and was going to become a lawyer. However, she took a leave of absence for an exciting role. Her biggest break came when she was cast as "Bianca Christine Montgomery" on "All My Children" (1970). The role was a break out role because not only is Bianca "Erica Kane"'s daughter, but she is also a lesbian. Bianca Montgomery is the first main character on an American soap who is openly gay. Her earnest, poignant, sparkling, heartfelt, and charismatic portrayal of Bianca helped make the character become one of "All My Children" (1970)'s most beloved heroines in its history. Eden left the role of Bianca Montgomery in February of 2005. She has moved to Los Angeles and wants to explore other avenues in her career such as prime time, movies, etc."
Anyway... so I guess there's a new actress who plays Bianca now... but this is the one that I remember.
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I guess I'm just surprised that she was never identified as being part of a long-term relationship couple. Maybe thats what I find fascinating about the Luke and Noah storyline is that it seems to be supporting the idea of being gay and in a long-term relationship rather than just being "gay and out and proud" as Luke would have said. Maybe I'm just mesmerized because the show seems to be letting Luke say, "I'm gay, and....". In other words, I think it becomes less of a social statement and more of a human statement. Of course, Bianca may have been the same way, but I haven't watched All My Children... lol. And don't plan to start anytime soon.
Maybe I'm completely out of it, too.
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Parts 88, 89 and 90 of the Luke and Noah storyline
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Parts 91 and 92 of the Luke and Noah storyline.
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Thanks again, Daniel! I *loved* #92! There should have been a kiss, though, damnit. ::) :laugh: Maybe the next episode will lead with that...wouldn't want anybody getting all complacent.
And no worries re:Dusty; snippets are good. He reminds me of one of Suz Brockmann's Navy SEALs - I think I'm going to cast him as Cosmo Richter in HOT TARGET.
8)
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You're in the same lifeboat with everyone else, Lynne. Where's the kiss? After seeing two really good kisses previously, the Nuke fans are starving for more... I'm only hoping they're using it as a plot point, and not just responding to a negative public viewpoint, particularly when the actors have very nice on-screen chemistry. But as you and I both know from watching Latter Days, these things take practice, and performance in soap operas does not leave very much time for practice, usually.
You noticed how in previous segments, it was often Noah that initiated the kiss, and tried to several other times, and Luke that pushed him away. This might be a type of character flaw development for Luke since I really don't see much other reason for doing it that way. Ah well, thinking's worth two cents, these days, three?
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There is a rumor going around that there will not be any more Luke and Noah for the rest of October. I seriously hope this isn't so, and I find it interesting that the channel would do this if they are going to The Luke and Noah storyline has boosted the show's viewership tremendously: 300,000 more regular viewers have raised ATWT's timeslot ratings from 7th to 3rd place.
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That is probably a red herring to get audience reaction stirred up. And ratings boosted even higher.
They arent that stupid, to throw away their cash cow!! What could be the logical reason..
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Okay, just another bit of grapevine for you all, since there's no videos foreseen until Friday at least.
I don't normally consider myself a rumormonger, but its hard to get out of that connective frame of reference that binds everything to you. Usually you can just turn it off, but sometimes it burns in your mind until you tell someone about it.
I've heard another rumor that this is the last year of As The World Turns. I told that person that I doubted that was the case as it has a well established viewership and has for the past 50 years. There was a celebration back in June or July or whenever it was for their 50th anniversary, and they had a special episode of ATWT where everyone that has been on the show over the past 50 years (that is still alive) had a part.
BTW, to all fellow viewers of L&N, we seem to have quite a collection of Latter Days lovers among the Nuke lovers, and I'm not suprised.
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I just watched a video on Youtube that for one reason or another I cant seem to refind. Anyway, it was
a morning talk show somewhere, probably new york or someplace like that...Not anything on the level with
Regis and Kelly...Anyway I digress,, Van was on it, and discussing how he got the part, his reaction after being
hired. And the fact that he didnt know his character was going to be gay. Anyway long story short...I was trying to
post it here..but I couldnt make it work... He said during the interview that he had signed a contract, and he
expect to be there for a while..So it didnt sound like it was going to go away right away...And as to the show
being cancelled...holy crap..that would be weird for sure..
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Here is the interesting interview by Van Hansis , enjoy.
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The Advocate has an interview:
http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid49649.asp
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After a week of waiting, we finally get some new videos.
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Alas most of these videos were about Lily and Holden, but there's some Dusty for you too Lynne.
And that mention of a new physical therapist sent chills up my spine. I have a feeling he might be another potential love interest for Luke.
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Way to go Daniel. I have been checking all the time, and not anything for all that time. thanks.. :D
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Thanks for the update, Daniel! I can see why the 'new therapist' hook would give you some concern...
I'm starting to wonder about Dusty's trustworthiness and I'm tired of Lily and Holden completely. ::) Exactly how many times can they have the SAME discussion??
And what's up between Dusty and Lily's MOTHER anyhow??? ??? Some unspoken messages being passed along there too!
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Parts 96, 97, and 98
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Thanks, Daniel! Here I found a preview for the upcoming week - only a small Luke and Noah snippet and not of the good variety, imo...The writers are really going to make these two suffer, hunh?
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ2TZLkOHa8[/youtube]
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Parts 99 and 100
[youtube=425,350]kD72K0hUYSE[/youtube]
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Parts 101 and 102, with more of the Lily/Holden dilemma
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[youtube=425,350]VeQ7yt3irj8[/youtube]
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Parts 103, 104, 105 and 106 (Snyder family problems)
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Luke and Noah videos Parts 107 and 108. Some pretty forceful acting in part 108. Soap Operas have their moments.
[youtube=425,350]oktadY9EmuA[/youtube]
[youtube=425,350]kD68CfRbjTo[/youtube]
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Thanksgiving at the Snyders (Part 109)
[youtube=425,350]M_P6YhltRFg[/youtube]
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I just found Luke & Noah's story from livejournal about 2 weeks' ago and have been catching up on it on youtube like crazy. I'm up-to-date now and then I began to look for clips since Van Hansis took over the role of Luke and yesterday, someone posted the 'came-out' episode of Luke on youtube, if you have not seen it before, perhaps you would want to watch it, it's phenomenal acting by Van Hansis, imo.
Here's the youtube link:
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Yeah, thats Van Hansis at his best.... he really lays on the drama there. Relatively early in his As The World Turns performance career, since the last Luke Snyder actor left the show due, in part, to the developing storyline of the character. Anyway, I'm way behind in my videos, while Viacom has started to swoop in and seize the videos out there.
Here's parts 110 and 111...
[youtube=425,350]jsP2PZyVJrU[/youtube]
[youtube=425,350]5qCWPWzqkQo[/youtube]
The lack of more physical intimacy has worried the Nuke viewers.... many of which are clamoring for another kiss (or similar sign of affection) from the duo. Considering the fact that the Luke and Noah kiss has been nominated for one of the most historic moments of daytime drama, with a huge support base, I'm surprised that more intimate scenes have not been included.
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And parts 112 and 113...
[youtube=425,350]IWmcGZt3ZdY[/youtube]
[youtube=425,350]3QGweOvLdI4[/youtube]
One small point of criticism: I have to admit that Noah's "I'm so confused, I don't know what to do now" look is really starting to wear on me. Granted, he's lost his mother and nearly his boyfriend to the insanity of his father, after struggling with himself to accept Luke as his boyfriend, and then losing his father to prison as well, deservedly so I might add. But please, Noah, grow a backbone... quickly. Perhaps, though, Luke is pushing him too hard right now... I can understand his feelings, but forcing love on a person that is only starting to get back on his feet again is not the best thing to do.
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I realize that Dusty is attractive to at least one of our Bettermost Family, but I am beginning to think he has ulterior motives for maintaining his relationship with Noah and the Snyders and wonder what this could mean for the future. I am particularly worried by Dusty's deceptive behaviorisms.... kind of creepy.
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The lack of more physical intimacy has worried the Nuke viewers.... many of which are clamoring for another kiss (or similar sign of affection) from the duo. Considering the fact that the Luke and Noah kiss has been nominated for one of the most historic moments of daytime drama, with a huge support base, I'm surprised that more intimate scenes have not been included.
I read on Van's fansite that there was indeed a third kiss, it happened in the kitchen on the day when Noah and his father visited the farm and stayed for dinner; but when the episode was aired, the kiss was cut. It's really strange behaviour by the network.
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Yep, I posted both cuts of kisses #2 and 3. They're on page 4... ;D
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Yep, I posted both cuts of kisses #2 and 3. They're on page 4... ;D
you mean it has been five years (in soap opera time) and they STILL havent done the wild thing???
jeez!!
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Yep, I posted both cuts of kisses #2 and 3. They're on page 4... ;D
If I was looking at the right clip, I guess it could only constitute as a near-kiss! According to Van, they had taped a real kiss but the kiss was cut eventually.
BTW, here is the link to the preview of tomorrow's episode which CBS posted on youtube:
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you mean it has been five years (in soap opera time) and they STILL havent done the wild thing???
jeez!!
actually, they're about on par with real world time (Dec)
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actually, they're about on par with real world time (Dec)
oh good. I always used to HATE that mysterious time warp thing that soap operas do...you know, the kids are just headed off to boarding school one week and the next they are teenagers getting married and having car wrecks (while time hasn't moved for the adults :P )
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An important message from our fellow Nuke story poster on youtube.
[youtube=425,350]vJOtC5dpNBw[/youtube]
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Parts 114 and 115 of the Luke and Noah Story on As The World Turns
[youtube=425,350]jBckpeYNHEQ[/youtube]
[youtube=425,350]nSQhx_EjDYY[/youtube]
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oh good. I always used to HATE that mysterious time warp thing that soap operas do...you know, the kids are just headed off to boarding school one week and the next they are teenagers getting married and having car wrecks (while time hasn't moved for the adults :P )
At first I was enthralled by the wholesome approach to their relationship, the genuine emotion, the really deepfelt, provocative moments of romantic attraction, but now I am beginning to fear, like so many other lovers of the Luke and Noah storyline, that there is some political motivation to keeping the physical aspects of their relationship off of the screen, despite the demand from their audience, the apparent agreement of the actors and the filming crew that such scenes are relevant to the storyline, and any number of factors which are in favor of the televisation of a gay physically romantic relationship. It seems like the producers are attempting to meet demand, but that some middleman is stepping in the way of things and corrupting a beautiful and heartfelt story for political or religious reasons. In other words, CENSORSHIP! Please contact the writers and producers of this program and let them know how important this storyline is! Call the phone number I posted in the earlier video.
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Please contact the writers and producers of this program and let them know how important this storyline is! Call the phone number I posted in the earlier video.
Someone on Van's fansite said that the person who received his call told him Van and Jake have been in the studio a lot lately so we can expect their airtime to increase.
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Please demonstrate your support for the Luke and Noah storyline... Sign the petition to Proctor & Gamble. No donation is necessary. Once you press the sign button, your signature is recorded.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Luke_and_Noah/index.html (http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Luke_and_Noah/index.html)
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Looks like Van is turning on the high drama for the 12/20 episode....
[youtube=425,350]HxEnbJxw_Ik[/youtube]
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Someone on Van's fansite said that the person who received his call told him Van and Jake have been in the studio a lot lately so we can expect their airtime to increase.
I have no doubt that the production design crew of As the World Turns is doing what they can to reply to the demand for more of the Nuke phenomenon. What worries me is that some other force is designating which of the filmed scenes can actually be used in the shows.
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Daniel
It seems that only you and me are watching this story. I gather you have already signed the petition, right!
Tomorrow is the big day, I hope there'll be a kiss.
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I have been following the story very faithfully, i signed the petitions too..
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I did sign the petition, and am somewhere among the 500s if you care to review the list. I may have inadvertently declared that previous preview for Friday's showing.... and that's the delicious doll house episode (there are a variety of rumors about this one - the Christmas special, and end of the season for ATWT as far as I'm aware) But it is probably in reality a preview for Thursday's episode. I hope there's a kiss also... Hopefully Noah and Luke have gotten over their psychological conflcits - Luke's victim-thought mentality and Noah's permanent reminder syndrome.
But, what the heck, lets start up a little conversation. Who's right in the great Luke and Noah debate? Which is more important? To demonstrate love or to proclaim it (given an unideal world where one must be chosen over the other)? Or does it depend on the person? (i.e. is one person more apt at demonstrating love than proclaiming it?)
Action vs. word. The director and the writer.
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Here's an interesting blog on After Elton, the gay blog site. Beautiful picture from Friday's Christmas special. There are rumors that Noah and Luke's 19th century counterparts are heterosexual in this one, but perhaps.... looking at this image, this rumor is false. I believe that all that CBS has told us is that the show "depicts its residents in situations that may or may not be remniscient of their own". There's a beautiful letter of appeal about halfway down the comments, if you wish to do more to let Proctor & Gamble know about your support and interest in the Luke and Noah storyline.
http://www.afterelton.com/blog/brianjuergens/sneak-peek-friday-christmas-as-the-world-turns (http://www.afterelton.com/blog/brianjuergens/sneak-peek-friday-christmas-as-the-world-turns)
(http://www.afterelton.com/sites/www.afterelton.com/files/images/SilbermannHansisweb.jpg)
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Okay folks... still waiting for the filtered Nuke videos... :) I've seen some unfiltered ones (with every other tangled storyline on ATWT mixed in), and it's beautiful. Still waiting for the declaration part though.
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Part 116 (1 of 3) of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns
[youtube=425,350]y7F5wqN4Drk[/youtube]
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Okay, I have seen the declaration part now.... I am crying right now... It was in a word, beautiful... not at all overdramatic, but serious and intentional.... and just about what everyone needs this time of the year.
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Parts 117 and 118, unfiltered. The poster of the filtered videos is having some trouble, so here are the unfiltered parts 117 and 118 of the Luke and Noah storyline.
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[youtube=425,350]v-159epUlQI[/youtube]
Here they are, filtered, if you prefer to leave out the other storylines.
[youtube=425,350]LLnvzYs-MSo[/youtube]
[youtube=425,350]Fn9_7KE3dvE[/youtube]
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As beautiful as the last segment of today's episode was, a number of Nuke supporters are absolutely infuriated by the lack of a direct kiss... instead of the implied one. But I have been struck by the cold force of reality and have come to the inevitable conclusion that the actors simply do not like kissing each other. That is a possibility that had not gone through my mind many times before, but kissing a person is perhaps the most intimate you can become with that person, so I can see why some would not be willing to do that with persons with whom they are uncomfortable becoming extremely intimate. Actors can put this feeling behind them when required generally, so I had assumed that Van and Jake were already comfortable with the idea. And indeed, the last full kiss (the one that was cut down to size - see page 4) seemed to me like an involved and matured kiss, and there was no sign of discomfort on the part of the actors.
But let's face reality here. The actors themselves, Van and Jake are straight (as much as we might hope otherwise), and as human beings, deserving of their own sexual identity and the freedom to say "No" to certain situations when it's not something they want to do. Of course, this is based on the premise that the act of kissing is uncomfortable for both actors, and I think it is phenomenal enough to realize that both actors are willing to portray the story because its an important one. But I am wondering now if our pressure to have them kiss is perhaps too adamant.
If you are gay man, consider what you would do if you were asked to kiss a woman whom you were not attracted to. Many people would find this extraordinarily difficult, despite psychological preparation, method acting tips, or any other assortment of behavioral guides.
Now, of course, if the question is censorship... and there is still some doubt in my mind that envelops this possibility, then it is something that we, the audience can do something about. But I am reserved at this point. I am willing to determine if it is the actors themselves that are holding out because of their personal beliefs and they are doing what they can to portray the love story without yielding too much to the demand of others while sacrificing their core beliefs, or engaging in behavior that may very well be personally repugnant to both of them. They certainly have a right to do so, and I would hold them in high regard for either case.
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According to the people in the know, they had kissed, it's just that it was not shown. Both Van and Jake had said they have no problem kissing, so I don't think the lack of kissing shown was due to them. I am as confused as all other viewers as to why the kiss scene was omitted, however, the writing and lead up to the delcaration was beautifully done.
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Alright... if that's the case, we might need to join the letters to Proctor & Gamble Campaign. It is CENSORSHIP, that evil which would scour truth from the world to save face and preserve the status quo.
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Of course, if people keep watching the show in hopes of seeing a Nuke kiss, and they are aggravated by the lack of one, the fact remains that they are still watching the show. So perhaps that might be something that needs to stop. I don't think the networks are interested in pandering to the demands of their audience, only in the amount of viewership that they receive. So they know, that if people are writing to the producers, then the show is being watched, even if the scenes that people want to see are not being released to the network.
In order to force real change, it may become necessary to stop watching it... :(
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According to the people in the know, they had kissed, it's just that it was not shown. Both Van and Jake had said they have no problem kissing, so I don't think the lack of kissing shown was due to them. I am as confused as all other viewers as to why the kiss scene was omitted, however, the writing and lead up to the delcaration was beautifully done.
Ha, I'm quoting myself. I think there's some conflicting and confusing statements, the last I understand from the clarification of those people in the know was the script provided for a kiss, but it seemed that they didn't actually film it but implied it, hence the outcome of yesterday's episode.
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Implied kisses are infuriating!
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I'm not sure if anyone else recognized the humor in that last post... but anyway... part 119 of the Luke and Noah storyline, unfiltered! It's fantastic...
[youtube=425,350]XehkEBjP0hc[/youtube]
The As The World Turns Christmas special has me mentally squealing like a school girl. Luke and Noah are both incredibly handsome in late 19th century finery, and the linguistic halts and stiffness of the Victorian socialites have been captured beautifully by whoever came up with this episode. There are a few things I have a little quirk with, such as the introductions. The tone of the Victorian introductions is correct, but the order is wrong. Younger is introduced to older, men are introduced to women (excluding attached women, whom are introduced by their male counterpart to everyone else), those with no titles are introduced to those with titles. In Victorian society, those with higher social status are addressed more respectfully.... In some ways, these traditions continue today, though we have changed this order somewhat. Now I believe it is acceptable to introduce others to older acquaintances, regardless of social standing, except for political address. Ah well, enough Society Rules.
Noah calls Luke by his given name of Luciano, which of course turns me into a throbbing pile of goo for some reason.
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I found this hilarious article at After Elton regarding today's show and what's now known as the Mistletoe That Stole Christmas fiasco.
http://www.afterelton.com/blog/brianjuergens/liveblogging-as-the-world-turns-ghosts-of-gay-teenagers-past-edition (http://www.afterelton.com/blog/brianjuergens/liveblogging-as-the-world-turns-ghosts-of-gay-teenagers-past-edition)
"2:12PM EDT: Okay. So we open on Lily and Dusty sitting on a settee with the girls playing on the floor in front of them. The ladies look like they're wearing human-sized Marie Osmond Doll outfits and Dusty looks ... well, he actually looks totally hot. Everyone starts speaking in these starched voices that call to mind the acting troupe in Waiting for Guffman. Anyway, apparently in this story Lily's husband has died and Dusty wants to announce their engagement. Suddenly we hear a bunch of dropped firewood and cut to a stinky-faced Holden standing in the doorway wearing what looks like a J Crew leather jacket and Oxford. What, did he not get the memo?
Holden is the stable-boy or whatever and he tries to talk Lily into not marrying Mister Donovan. He almost kisses her and suddenly Bonnie shows up. She makes a quip about how she's only still married because "divorce is frowned upon". Ha! Get it? She's a DIVORCE LAWYER. Lily reveals that Holden is indeed the stableboy (this is so Harlequin Romance soft-core porn).
In the kitchen a bunch of extras from Gosford Park are getting al scullery and make reference to "young master Luke" being all growed up, which sounds a bit Ben Kenobi to me.
In the rather opulent dining room, we find Luke in a tux. "Mayer" arrives and he and Luke hug. He introduces him as a friend from University to Donovan, and Mayer inquires as to whether he is one of the New York Donovans (insert Mayer/Donovan old-timey slashfic HERE). Noah tries to kiss Luke (or "Luciano", as he calls him) and Luke dodges, saying "not here" ... meaning, of course, not while the camera is pointing at them.
Noah reveals that he is engaged to a daughter of a family friend, which of course doesn't thrill our young Jedi. They toast to marriage. I'm half-tempted to start drinking myself at this point."
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I got this link to an afterelton article from Van's fansite, I find this article insightful and logical:
http://www.afterelton.com/blog/michaeljensen/hell-hath-no-fury-atwt-fan-scorned
As I am not American, nor am I familiar with US soaps at all, I really have no perspective on the audience's reaction, but I do think too drastic actions taken by the fans of this storyline to CBS or P&G, it may harm the story, Van and Jake instead of benefiting them in the long run, but that's jmo.
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I agree that many people have blown it out of proportion, but even I find it somewhat infuriating that obvious kisses have not been televised, and then I laugh it off, and consider the overall drama. It's beautiful, and it's funny (sometimes in one of those awww, how cute ways), and it's good. I personally am greatly appreciative for the small taste of heaven that we are allowed access to, but am a little spiritually aggravated when I'm turned away at the gate just when I arrive.
This doesn't mean that I am disrespectful or ungrateful of the opportunity to visit heaven at all. I am deeply appreciative. I just would like to see more. And this dancing around the outskirts is intriguing, engaging, fun, and blissful.... but there's always a part of me that is attempting to peer down golden roads and through crystal arches. And every time I look, I keep getting caught by the guardians who just shake their heads at me and urge me to move on.
So I can understand both sides. I understand the painful distancing of self from the blissful center. And indeed, the first truth of the Eight is that Life is Suffering. Impatience must yield to compassion and understanding before the next circle is reached.... and in the end, the winding labyrinth takes us through a beautiful voyage of self discovery. The longest distance between two points is a double spiral, but when the straight line is so apparent, and visible, it is so tempting to demand it.
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Hey, yb, can you post a link to Van's fansite...?
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Ladies and gentlemen, in the excitement and passion of the moment, we have forgotten to record the historic moment of Thursday, December 20, 2007 as the first time that two male characters on a daytime drama pro/confessed their love to one another. Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus, and men can say "I love you." meaningfully despite what we are often raised to expect or believe about the masculine stereotype, and what "acceptable" masculine behavior is. Yes, and even a man is capable of that ultimate vulnerability, when he can place his life and desires beneath another's in the role of loving support. He can gently enmesh his emotional being with another, and consider in truth the reality not only of his being, but of another, pure and bright in the surrounding darkness. Yes, Virginia, love exists.... and men are capable of it.
Phenomenal. Wondrous.
(For some reason I keep hearing the Hallelujah Chorus)
Part 118 to replay to your heart's content:
[youtube=425,350]Fn9_7KE3dvE[/youtube]
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Ladies and gentlemen, in the excitement and passion of the moment, we have forgotten to record the historic moment of Thursday, December 20, 2007 as the first time that two male characters on a daytime drama pro/confessed their love to one another. Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus, and men can say "I love you." meaningfully despite what we are often raised to expect or believe about the masculine stereotype, and what "acceptable" masculine behavior is. Yes, and even a man is capable of that ultimate vulnerability, when he can place his life and desires beneath another's in the role of loving support. He can gently enmesh his emotional being with another, and consider in truth the reality not only of his being, but of another, pure and bright in the surrounding darkness. Yes, Virginia, love exists.... and men are capable of it.
Phenomenal. Wondrous.
(For some reason I keep hearing the Hallelujah Chorus)
Part 118 to replay to your heart's content:
[youtube=425,350]Fn9_7KE3dvE[/youtube]
I agree, that's why I thought in the end the positives that came out of this episode outweighed the negative, and as others have said, none of the other couples in the show has got such a romantic and careful development of their relationship. My concern now is what's in store for them in the future, I hope the producers/writers have got some good things ahead for this storyline.
Daniel, here's the link to Van's fansite:
http://vanhansis.net/
But if you want to go straight to the messageboard, here's the link:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/vanhansis/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=9
I am more a Van fan, but there are a lot of Jake love on the messageboard also.
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In celebration of the most recent romantic phenomenon that almost never was, we proudly present the Most Interrupted Couple in Daytime History:
I'm just wondering if there are some viewers out there going, "Phew, I'm glad they came along. I was about to be subjected to that gay stuff again."
[youtube=425,350]07SwPe_5n28[/youtube]
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them poor boys have been busted so many times, how can anybody in town NOT know about them??
seriously!
:laugh: ;)
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That's the thing, Jess.... just about everyone who knows them, does know about them, and they all approve! Except for Noah's psycho-dad.
Glad to see you here, though. Hope you're caught up! Too many good things to miss! Season's blessings to you, Jess!
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That's the thing, Jess.... just about everyone who knows them, does know about them, and they all approve! Except for Noah's psycho-dad.
Glad to see you here, though. Hope you're caught up! Too many good things to miss! Season's blessings to you, Jess!
Merry merry to you too, sweet Daniel!!
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Thank you for posting this Daniel! I am on dial-up, but I took the time to view it, and it was definately worth the wait!! What a beautiful Christmas for the gay American community! Thanks so much for telling us about it!
Happy Christmas Daniel, to you and yours! :)
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In celebration of the most recent romantic phenomenon that almost never was, we proudly present the Most Interrupted Couple in Daytime History:
I'm just wondering if there are some viewers out there going, "Phew, I'm glad they came along. I was about to be subjected to that gay stuff again."
[youtube=425,350]07SwPe_5n28[/youtube]
The motive of making this was out of frustration, but I have to say the result was rather amusing; poor Luke and Noah!
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I loved the speech Luke made....about walking into a room and having someone be glad to see you...
and the guy (sorry can't remember the name) that interrupted him. He was emphasizing that they had SEPERATE SLEEPING QUARTERS!! :laugh: :laugh:
and when he left Luke said: "I'll be up in a minute" and he said "YES YOU WILL"
::) ::) ::)
pffft!
spoilsport!
(while I DO understand that the actors are not gay, etc etc...we are talking about the characters... ;) )
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Right, Jess. You must have missed parts 115 and 116.
Holden (the guy that interrupted them) is Luke's dad, and they're all at Holden's family farm for Christmas. Grandma Snyder laid down the law when they invited Noah to stay for the holidays, so Holden is just enforcing it. Noah was completely blown away by being invited to stay. I think he finally knows what its like to have a real family taking care of him.
Correction: Parts 114 and 115
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Right, Jess. You must have missed parts 115 and 116.
Holden (the guy that interrupted them) is Luke's dad, and they're all at Holden's family farm for Christmas. Grandma Snyder laid down the law when they invited Noah to stay for the holidays, so Holden is just enforcing it. Noah was completely blown away by being invited to stay. I think he finally knows what its like to have a real family taking care of you.
well I think it is sweet and homey. Loved the clip
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It may be a while before we see Luke and Noah again. I hear rumors of a New Years Eve date.... but if Proctor and Gamble have the leashes still, who knows what we'll be able to see. Either way, if it is that long before we get to see them again, I may try my hand at some teleplay writing. I think I can stay pretty true to the storyline as it's been presented so far as well: romantic and playful, with minor touches and caresses; near kisses that are so close and yet so far away, and yet soulfully present and entertaining at the same time.
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It may be a while before we see Luke and Noah again. I hear rumors of a New Years Eve date.... but if Proctor and Gamble have the leashes still, who knows what we'll be able to see. Either way, if it is that long before we get to see them again, I may try my hand at some teleplay writing. I think I can stay pretty true to the storyline as it's been presented so far as well: romantic and playful, with minor touches and caresses; near kisses that are so close and yet so far away, and yet soulfully present and entertaining at the same time.
*sniff sniff*
I smell some some FAN FIC coming on!!
;D ;D
They HAVE to show Christmas morning!!
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Maybe yb can put on the Nukedar and find out what's going on for us. Mine's not that well developed yet.
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It may be a while before we see Luke and Noah again. I hear rumors of a New Years Eve date....
There is a spoiler that the boys will be on on 28 Dec, here's the excerpt of the spoiler I took from Van's site:
Luke+Noah will be on. Going on their first date as a couple, they attend Metro’s reopening. Luke convinces Noah to dance with him. Amorous from dancing, they decide to leave the club and head back to the farm, the entire multitude living there having gone elsewhere to ring in the New Year. What happens beyond that point...stay tune!
If you post these spoilers elsewhere, please credit "beautiful prose", thank you!
As I am fairly new to this story, I don't know how reliable the source is but I've inquired and was told that 'beautiful prose' is a reliable source, so believe it or take it with a grain of salt is up to our own judgement.
Regarind fanfic, Van's fansite has a section set aside for fanfics, I haven't read them as I am already overloaded with other things, if someone is interested to explore that aspect, feel free to visit Van's fansite.
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Well I wrote a teleplay for As The World Turns
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,13800.msg306561.html#msg306561 (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,13800.msg306561.html#msg306561)
Let me know what you think.
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Yeah.... previews.
Can't you just feel the excitement?
[youtube=425,350]g8C335hZBHk[/youtube]
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Part 119 (or 121 if you're counting the Christmas Special) of the Luke and Noah storyline of As The World Turns
[youtube=425,350]EIBBax3x6qM[/youtube]
If you're like me, you'll be squealing at the end.
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they got a tent set up out in the back forty???!!!
great episode huh?? (loved the way Luke touched Noah's tie there at the end...very tender yet erotic)
;D ;D
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Yes, I fear with Proctor and Gamble at the wheel, that may be all we get to see of this relationship for a while: hand-touching and tie-touching.... Let's see if I can find some previews. Hopefully they won't just leave us like that, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did.
Oh my goodness. I might get to write a discreet little steamy episode... :)
And of course, they would leave us like that... No As The World Turns until Jan 2, 2008. I'll get to write two teleplays... lol :)
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Rumour has it that they won't be on next week.
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Never fear, yb. I have my trusty pen and my imagination. We'll see if we can't get some Nuke yet.. :)
P.S. What do you think of the teleplays I've written so far?
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Never fear, yb. I have my trusty pen and my imagination. We'll see if we can't get some Nuke yet.. :)
P.S. What do you think of the teleplays I've written so far?
Daniel, I don't quite get it, are the teleplays like fanfics to fill the gap of the unshown scenes?
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They're to fill the gaps of the unshown shows... yes. So everyday without Nuke will have one... lol. I just pray for continuity in the whole thing.
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Daniel, I don't quite get it, are the teleplays like fanfics to fill the gap of the unshown scenes?
that is how I am taking them!! A little something to tide us over!
;D
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Okay, this IS NOT a Luke and Noah video. But I thought it would be wonderful to go back in time and see some of the older characters in the show
when they were much younger. Lily has been played by the same actress for the past 23 years.
[youtube=425,350]H9Imr3TqVhA[/youtube]
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Another fanvid.... I love this one.
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Please, don't let this feeling end,
It's ev'rything I am,
Ev'rything I wanna be;
I can see what's mine now,
Finding out what's true,
Since I've found you
Lookin' through the eyes of love
Now I can take the time,
I can see my life
As it comes on shining now;
Reachin' out to touch you,
I can feel so much,
Since I've found you
Lookin' through the eyes of love.
And now I do believe,
That even in a storm, we'll find some light;
Knowin' you're beside me,
I'm alright.
Please, don't let this feelin' end,
It might not come again;
And I want to remember
How it feels to touch you;
How I feel so much,
Since I've found you
Lookin' through the eyes of love.
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Another fanvid of The Kiss (Part 41)
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Pre-Nuke. Luke's first crush was on a boy named Kevin, who had been his best friend for years. Kevin didn't respond as well to Luke's crush as Noah did. These are from about a year ago.
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Another fanvid... It's a similar video to the ones we've seen in the other fanvids, but I particularly like this song. One of the Brightest Stars
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One day your story will be told.
One of the lucky ones who's made his name.
One day they'll make you glorious,
Beneath the lights of your deserved fame.
And it all comes round.
Once in a lifetime like it always does.
Everybody loves you 'cause you've taken a chance,
Out on a dance to the moon, too soon.
And they'll say told you so.
We were the ones who saw you first of all.
We always knew that you were one of the brightest stars.
One day they'll tell you that you've changed,
Though they're the ones who seem to stop and stare.
One day you'll hope to make the grave,
Before the papers choose to send you there.
And it all comes round.
Once in a lifetime like it always does.
Nobody loves you 'cause you've taken a chance,
Out on a dance to the moon, too soon.
And they'll say told you so.
We were the ones who saw you first of all.
We always knew that you were one of the brightest stars.
And they'll say told you so.
We were the ones who saw you first of all.
We always knew that you were one of the brightest stars.
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Parts 120 and 121 of the Luke and Noah storyline of As The World Turns
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Another adorable fanvid.
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
that was funny!! thanks Daniel!
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Part 122 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns
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Complete with scenes from earlier episodes of As The World Turns that include the end of Dusty's dynamic, disastrous, and downright dirty character.
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Let your support for the Luke and Noah storyline be heard. Please vote at the CBS website for Luke and Noah.
http://www.cbs.com/daytime/atwt/community/voice/ (http://www.cbs.com/daytime/atwt/community/voice/)
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Parts 123 and 124 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns
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Parts 125 and 126 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns
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Parts 127 and 128 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns. Also their first scene written by scab writers as the writers strike is beginning to adversely affect the daytime drama industry. Many are in favor of keeping the scab writers on... What do you think?
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Part 129 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns
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Part 130 of the Luke and Noah Storyline from As The World Turns
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yep, keep the new writers.....throw the old ones back!!
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Coincidentally last night i watched all these last nigh except for 130 and i am glad to
see it up.........why cant these boys think about getting a room at the local no tell motel.
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Coincidentally last night i watched all these last nigh except for 130 and i am glad to
see it up.........why cant these boys think about getting a room at the local no tell motel.
I think they are working their way to that first time! And a lot sooner than we expected, huh, Daniel?
Daniel, do you like the new writers?
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It's definitely moving a little quicker now... fans of Nuke are hoping that the scab writers can stay on now that the writer's strike is coming to an end.
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The writers strike is over... Boring-go nowhere Nuke is back, I think. Here are the Noah and Luke tidbits from the As The World Turns 2008 Valentine's Day special.
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How many ways can they not kiss. they need to take a lesson from Brian and Justin.
Just go for it. All out and hott.
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lol - I think thats the problem.. Brian and Justin are primetime cable... this is daytime programming...
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still.....
they COULD at least KISS now and again!!!
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Hon, climb on the bandwagon with everyone else... The lack of kisses is frustrating the most ardent supporters.... many of whom are jumping ship... Sorry, ATWT, looks like you had a good thing - but you blew it.... Of course, you know they'll come out with a really good kiss just when they are about to lose their biggest audience since... I'm not sure when. It's going to be very difficult to make Luke and Noah a supercouple without kissing or physical intimacy.
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Where is it exactly that Oakdale is located.? Tell them to head for Canada and get
married. That way gma wouldnt have anything to say about them sharing a room.
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As the World Turns is the last running daytime drama that still has a comment phone line. According to sources, it has been completely swamped by complaints from viewers in favor of Luke and Noah as a couple as well as on-screen displays of affection. I imagine you all can expect to read some pretty angry articles in the tabloids... angry in a good way.
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well why even go with the storyline if they are THAT squeamish about the physical stuff...I mean get real....this is a soap opera....people get busy, marry, have kids, grow old and die in the time that Nuke has been going on!!!
>:( >:(
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Where is it exactly that Oakdale is located.? Tell them to head for Canada and get
married. That way gma wouldnt have anything to say about them sharing a room.
Oakdale is in Illinois, within a day's drive of Chicago. I believe it has the same coordinates as the town of Peoria.
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Part 132 of the (gradually intensifying) Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns
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Parts 133 and 134 of the Luke and Noah storyline, on As The World Turns. The second part seems to be a slow download.
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Parts 135 and 136 of the Luke and Noah storyline from As The World Turns.
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Part 137 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns
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Well, those who have read spoilers (I'm not one of them. I don't like spoilers.) say that this goes from bad to worse. But spoilers have been known to be wrong. Usually intentionally.
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Parts 138 and 139 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns
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Part 139 might not be uploaded yet.... seems to be having difficulty with it.
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Thanks for those Daniel.
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Part 140 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns
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The conservative commentator obviously does not know the history of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns. Since Noah and Luke have been an official couple on the show, the show's ratings have boosted from 7th to 3rd place. That's a lot of people to say they're "pushing an agenda".
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Parts 141 and 142 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns, which sadly looks like it's coming to an end soon. Martha Byrne, who plays Lily Snyder, will be leaving the show after being on ATWT for 23 years. :'( I can't even talk about it...
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What this show is doing to these two beautiful characters has thousands of people tearing their hair out and trying to do everything in their power to stop it! It's amazing how much smoother things were going without the writers! The writers come back and they character assassinate Vienna, whose relationship with Henry was the second adorable thing on the program. Now they're going after Noah and Luke too, and otherwise drastically changing a program against the desires of its audience. The show has had very low ratings in the past, and I fear it is only more likely that whatever is going on will increase that slump. Noah and Luke, Martha Byrne as Lily Snyder, and Vienna and Henry's incredibly romantic and humorous relationship were some of the best things going for it.
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To be quite honest, I'm a bit worried about the future of Van (and/or Jake) in light of all the media attention the fans are generating now. I'm selfish, I hope to see Van stay on the show and that what his fans are doing has no negative effect on him.
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Well let me put it this way...
Van and Jake have been kissing for the camera, a number of times, and only two of those have been shown. Now I'm certain that they are great friends, but they're straight, so that can't be the most comfortable thing in the world for them to do. And since the kisses then aren't shown, they're kissing for.... (drum roll please).... no one. That's the most awkward thing about this whole "no kissing" curse.
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Parts 143 and 144 of the Luke and Noah Storyline on As The World Turns.
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A lot of people have been upset that there was not a kiss when Noah finally told Luke the three magic words that most people have been begging to hear for some time now. But the embrace that followed was perfectly exquisite. There are some days when an embrace does so much more than a kiss.
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Daniel, I saw the thread you started on vh.net. Is the title a joke? You should have been there long enough to know that Noah is beyond criticism there, what you said in your post was perfectly in line with the majority of the members there.
Anyway, I have never been really disappointed with this storyline or have problem with the character, Noah, but today's episode finally did it. I hope it'll get better soon, otherwise, I hope Luke will ditch him and have another person - hmmm, maybe Matt?
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Parts 145 and 146 of the Luke and Noah Storyline on As The World Turns
Some good news: Van Hansis (Luke) has contracted for another year...
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Part 147 of the rollercoaster Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns. If this is the way they treat all relationships, no wonder there's so much "cheating" and love polygons on soap operas. Van Hansis's acting is phenomenal though. Okay enough of that, on with the show.
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I am reluctantly (or perhaps not so) behind in the videos. Like many viewers I am immensely discouraged by what the writers are doing with this storyline. But there's not much that can be done for it. Like many people, I was willing to stop watching and asked to be put on the Let Me Know When It's Romantic Again mailing list, and the soap opera writers begin to edge that in a little at a time, so of course people are confused as to when the romance is starting again...
So... to catch up... Parts 148, 149, 150, and 151 of the Luke, Noah, and Ameera storyline on As The World Turns. I am desperately trying to like Ameera but there's just something about that character that is mildly acidic.
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LIPLOCK CLOCK: 188 DAYS
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Okay, enough of the depressing storyline, let's relive some of the good moments, so it doesn't feel like a marriage near the edge of divorce.
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Song: Because You Loved Me sung by Celine Dion
For all those times you stood by me
For all the truth that you made me see
For all the joy you brought to my life
For all the wrong that you made right
For every dream you made come true
For all the love I found in you
Ill be forever thankful baby
You're the one who held me up
Never let me fall
You're the one who saw me through through it all
You were my strength when I was weak
You were my voice when I couldn't speak
You were my eyes when I couldn't see
You saw the best there was in me
Lifted me up when I couldn't reach
You gave me faith 'cause you believed
I'm everything I am
Because you loved me
You gave me wings and made me fly
You touched my hand I could touch the sky
I lost my faith, you gave it back to me
You said no star was out of reach
You stood by me and I stood tall
I had your love I had it all
I'm grateful for each day you gave me
Maybe I don't know that much
But I know this much is true
I was blessed because I was loved by you
You were my strength when I was weak
You were my voice when I couldn't speak
You were my eyes when I couldn't see
You saw the best there was in me
Lifted me up when I couldn't reach
You gave me faith 'cause you believed
I'm everything I am
Because you loved me
You were always there for me
The tender wind that carried me
A light in the dark shining your love into my life
You've been my inspiration
Through the lies you were the truth
My world is a better place because of you
You were my strength when I was weak
You were my voice when I couldn't speak
You were my eyes when I couldn't see
You saw the best there was in me
Lifted me up when I couldn't reach
You gave me faith 'cause you believed
I'm everything I am
Because you loved me
You were my strength when I was weak
You were my voice when I couldn't speak
You were my eyes when I couldn't see
You saw the best there was in me
Lifted me up when I couldn't reach
You gave me faith 'cause you believed
I'm everything I am
Because you loved me
I'm everything I am
Because you loved me
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Part 152 of the Luke, Noah, Casey, and Ameera storyline on As The World Turns. I love how the writers think they're so smart to speed up the text and subtext at the end of a story arc. In reality it doesn't usually do much but lead to the confusing turmoil of character assassination.
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LIPLOCK CLOCK: 192 DAYS
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I liked the guest writers....maybe we could call for another strike?
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Parts 153 and 154 of the Luke, Noah, Ameera, and Casey storyline on As The World Turns. They're taking ideas from my fanfiction... all the good ones! I'm not sure whether I should laugh or cry. This episode also marks another step in the positive portrayal of gay relationships in an American daytime drama / soap opera, strangely enough taking a bash at the federal enforcement agencies. Applause is definitely in order.
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LIPLOCK CLOCK 198 DAYS. HIPLOCK CLOCK NOW SET TO 0
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Part 155 and 156 of the Luke, Noah, Ameera, and Casey storyline on As The World Turns.
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LIPLOCK CLOCK: 199 DAYS.
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Parts 157 and 158 of the Luke, Noah, Ameera, and Casey storyline on As The World Turns. Finally some truth. It looks like the fourth wheel on the bicycle wants out.
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LIPLOCK CLOCK: 208 DAYS.
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And finally, when millions of Nuke fans were on the verge of giving up on the dynamic duo, part 159 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns
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:o :o :o
Kiss closeup anyone?
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LIPLOCK CLOCK RESET TO 0!
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Part 160 of the (gradually improving) Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns
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Part 161 of the Luke and Noah Storyline on As The World Turns
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Watch the View on 4/30 to see Van Hansis talk about his Emmy nomination. :) I'll also upload it here.
You can also now call into P&G hotline and request to leave your response to the Luke and Noah storyline on their Luke and Noah menu. (A simple choice to continue or discontinue the storyline... P&G got fed up with the hate mail from AFA). Umm, I will look for the phone number here in a little bit.
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Here's the number to call to support the Luke and Noah storyline. 1-800-331-3774. It's the second option once you get past the language selector. So 1 - 2 - 1 (to keep it going)
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Van Hansis (Luke Snyder) announces nominations and is nominated himself for daytime Emmy.
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Parts 162 and 163 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns
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EDIT: Eek, I found a missing part.
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Thank you Daniel.. This has been great to catch up with Luke and Noah again..YOu
are a gem to have done this...
I think I know what that no account Colonel has in mind.. He is going to try and
get Noah put in jail for liing to the Immigration people. He will do anything to keep him
and Luke apart...
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I missed a part! It's up there now. Sorry about that. :(
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Part 164 and 165 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns
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A tiny Cameo put in today's episode of As The World Turns features Luke and Holden (his father). Part 166? I guess so.
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Part 167 of the Luke and Noah Storyline on As The World Turns.
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Part 168 of the Luke and Noah Storyline of As The World Turns.
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Part 169 of the Luke and Noah Storyline on As The World Turns. Interesting. There wasn't a kiss today.
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Parts 170 and 171 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns.
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Part 172 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns.
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Part 173 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns.
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I missed a day, due to work... Sorry, folks.
Parts 174, 175, and 176 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns.
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Part 177 and 178 of the Luke and Noah Storyline on As The World Turns: The dramatic argument / "break up" continues...
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Lynne... a lot of the real Van came through in this one... not the yelling, I think that's pure Luke, but there were a few times where it was more of a Van moment than a Luke moment (listen to the intonation, you can hear it I think).
This episode was chock-full of whats known as "soapy goodness" - which is the occasional brilliant combination of good writing with beautiful acting that can be found in daytime dramas. Granted, these moments are few and far between, but in a way, they need to be to provide that refreshing blast of cool air in a desert of monotony.
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Part 179 of the Luke and Noah Storyline on As The World Turns
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Part 180 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns
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Possibly the most romantic thing I've heard since the Christmas episode.
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CBS's Favorite Daytime Couples Commercial
Luke and Noah have the last half second.
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Oakdale's Gay Pride Day?... Parts 181, 182, and 183 of the Luke and Noah Storyline on As The World Turns
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Part 184 of the Luke and Noah Storyline on As The World Turns.
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Parts 185 and 186 of the Luke and Noah Storyline on As The World Turns
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Part 177 and 178 of the Luke and Noah Storyline on As The World Turns: The dramatic argument / "break up" continues...
Lynne... a lot of the real Van came through in this one... not the yelling, I think that's pure Luke, but there were a few times where it was more of a Van moment than a Luke moment (listen to the intonation, you can hear it I think).
This episode was chock-full of whats known as "soapy goodness" - which is the occasional brilliant combination of good writing with beautiful acting that can be found in daytime dramas. Granted, these moments are few and far between, but in a way, they need to be to provide that refreshing blast of cool air in a desert of monotony.
Aargh! Thank you very much, Daniel. I will go back and re-watch this one...I'm just now seeing your note. I was caught up through the end of last week.
Speaking of acting chops, I wonder if there are any clips of Wes Ramsey from his soap days? I think it would be fun to see a few of them. There's a scene in LD's when he's speaking with Lila - he turns to leave her office, then turns back to her - I think it's after Lila takes the call from the hospital and Christian asks her if there's anything wrong - that seems to stand up and wave 'daytime drama maneuver!!' to me. (Sorry, that's snarky, and you know I *love* him regardless!)
::) :D
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Part 187 of the Luke and Noah Storyline on As The World Turns
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These are parts of a Lily and Holden Drama (Luke's parents) that apparently Luke will be involved in shortly. Holden had an affair with his brother's ex-wife, Carly, that may make things emotionally difficult for the rest of the Snyder family.
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More of the Lily and Holden Drama.
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For those of you who are wondering, the Lily and Holden Drama really have nothing at all to do with Luke and Noah, however, it is likely that parts of this storyline will be important when Luke and Noah return to the scene.
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Just posting to bump this so I can find it tomorrow. I 'm
liking loving Van Hansis' work here, but really hating the story line.
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The Lily/Holden/Carly Drama, with Noah and Luke (finally).
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Part 188 of the Luke and Noah Storyline
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On a side note, Puberty (the nick name for the relationship between Parker and Liberty (14 and 16, although Parker has been tried as an adult)), is developing rather... "disgustingly"? There are bets over who will get to the main event first: Puberty or Nuke. Based on current trends, odds are 4 to 1 in favor of Puberty. (Since I don't watch the whole show, they may have already done it. I do know that apparently on today's episode Puberty beat Nuke's kiss tally.)
P.S. Don't blame me for the Puberty nick name, I wanted to call them Liberty Park.
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Hmm, yes Parker and Liberty have indeed had sex before Luke and Noah.... a late teenage gay relationship that's been going on for almost a year was trumped by the sexual impulses of a 16-year old and her determination to bed a 15-year old after knowing him for about a month. Poor Mick Hazen (Actor for Parker - he's genuinely 15 years old and from the few times I've met him, seems more interested in playing (paintball, baseball, basketball - maybe anything that ends with "ball") than acting out a mature relationship. Liberty's actress is a very young 21.) But in either case, Thursday's episode has gone down in infamy.
The soap magazines are questioning why, of course. Other relationships were built up over at least a few weeks, especially the ones that have hinted at familial inappropriateness or incest, which is fortunately missing from the Luke and Noah relationship. This one seems almost like it was on the fast track. Which is incredible, considering how most relationships on soap operas are treated slowly. There is some indication to believe that this storyline may have been written to appease right wing-conservative thinkers who have been harassing Proctor & Gamble and As The World Turns for their "gay storyline".
For more on that, just post a reply.
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"She's not my happy ending. You are."
I like that writing.
8)
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Parts 189 and 190 of the Luke and Noah Storyline on As The World Turns
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I am so sick of Lily and Holden and all their drama. Its so over the top soap opera, until
its ridiculous. They dont even have a week of straight time. Time when they are on the
same page. Its a bit too much to take. She is overreacting to him, and he was over reacting to her and her affair.. I dont see how people that immature could possibly be any kind of a role
mode for children let alone, young men..
Thanks for keeping this going Daniel, but I dont like either one of them at all....sorry
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Yeah, Lilden and Carjack have gotten a little silly. I don't watch it for that anyway. The main thing I watch it for anymore is Luke and Noah. And Henry and Vienna, but even that relationship has been strained by certain circumstances. But Lilden of course will go on, for as long as people continue to rave about them. But seriously, after three divorces, you'd think they would have had enough by now.
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A very short Luke scene, part 191?
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And part 192. Which is more about Lily/Carly than Luke, but he's in there.
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Does anyone on here regularly record As the World Turns? I have been recording it for years and then watching it later. Lately I have unfortunately missed recording several episodes. First of all I had problems with my DVD recorder so I had to switch back to the VCR for awhile. When I have been on vacation I have at times forgot to have the TV on the right channel or the tape ran out. There are many episodes I have am now missing. Does anyone possibly have these or know where I can get them? I am running behind in watching the show anyway so it will be awhile until I get to these episodes, but I want to have them. Please let me know. I would appreciate it greatly.
Jack
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You can usually get the last week or so on the CBS website. I can't think of a way to record them. But they're there. www.cbs.com/daytime/
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Thanks Daniel!!!
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Part 193 of the Luke and Noah Storyline (with Lucinda and Brian thrown in) on As The World Turns
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Parts 194 and 195 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns. Also the one year anniversary since Noah appeared on set, if I remember correctly.
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Part 196 of the Luke and Noah Storyline on As The World Turns:
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Hmm, I am beginning to join the fan camp that thinks that Brian has an attraction to Luke... but we'll see. It's difficult for me to see that the writers might have witnessed the multiple levels of human intensity that can be present in any human interaction.
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Part 197 of the Luke and Noah Storyline on As The World Turns
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Why is there a new actress playing Lily?
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I thought the bit about Brian being off to the 'Men's Tent' was especially funny! :laugh:
I did see what I thought was subtext between Brian and Luke in their initial meetings, but did not really notice it in the later ones...time will tell, I guess, where the writers decide to take it. Noah's trip to Italy will provide some opportunity for Brian/Luke alone time, tho. ??? And that's just 'Eeeew' IMO.
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Why is there a new actress playing Lily?
Oh dear, well that question just opens a can of worms in a burning ring of fire.
Martha Byrne, the one who had been playing Lily for nearly 20 years prior to this one was trying to renew her contract back in April. She was in negotiations with production, and asked only that she be given the same number of performance days as she had the previous year. (Since soap opera actors are payed per episode, that makes sense to me.) Production told her they would think about it, so she left the negotiation table to come back the next day. Overnight, the production company began secretly recasting for a new Lily Snyder. Martha was naturally outraged about this turn of events and determined (I believe correctly) that the decisions of production broke terms of contract. There are two versions of the story out there. One from production, and one from Martha. But I think Martha's is more likely the true one. She's done some musicals and stage productions in New York, though, and she was devastated to leave "the other love of her life" - the actor that plays Holden. I forget his name at the moment.
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Luke at Aaron and Alison's wedding.
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Three lines, from what I understand. And one of them was originally supposed to be Holden's.
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A few videos of Luke in the tragedy of his brother's disappearance into a hole in the ground.
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Part 198 of the Luke, Noah, and Brian storyline on As The World Turns.
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Part 199 of the Luke and Noah Storyline on As The World Turns.
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To help fill in the gaps a little bit... Dusty faked his own death back in March or whenever that character "died". Lucinda knew all along and swore to keep it a secret. So Lily was rather angry at that.
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Why is there a new actress playing Lily?
Martha Byrne, the one who had been playing Lily for nearly 20 years prior to this one was trying to renew her contract back in April. She was in negotiations with production, and asked only that she be given the same number of performance days as she had the previous year. (Since soap opera actors are payed per episode, that makes sense to me.) Production told her they would think about it, so she left the negotiation table to come back the next day. Overnight, the production company began secretly recasting for a new Lily Snyder. Martha was naturally outraged about this turn of events and determined (I believe correctly) that the decisions of production broke terms of contract. There are two versions of the story out there. One from production, and one from Martha. But I think Martha's is more likely the true one. She's done some musicals and stage productions in New York, though, and she was devastated to leave "the other love of her life" - the actor that plays Holden. I forget his name at the moment.
http://tvguide.sympatico.msn.ca/Byrne+After+Reading/Soaps/Features/Articles/080924_martha_byrne_NB.htm?isfa=1
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Yeah, go with that one.
My version was probably a little truncated and Danielized.
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Parts 200 and 201 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns
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Parts 202 and 203 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns
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Parts 204. 205. and 206 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns.
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Well, the story is interesting, but the acting is downright terrible. It's like a high school play. :(
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For those of you who are interested (for an obscure reason) in the Casey and Alison aspect of this storyline, I've included them here. Parts 207 and 208 of the Luke, Noah, Casey, and Alison storyline on As The World Turns.
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Parts 209 and 210...
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The Student Election at Oakdale University. Parts 211 and 212 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns
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Parts 213 and 214 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns... from yesterday.
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I am fascinated by this story line, and not being a daytime soap opera fan for many, many years, didn't know this was happening in daytime TV. I can watch that first kiss over and over again. It's great, and the only bad thing is that I'm at work, and all I want to do is to view this thread and the videos! I know I should be working, but I cannot seem to drag myself away from this thread! I've started at the beginning, and am trying to watch all the videos. You Tube has each kiss on video, and one video compilation of all the kisses!!
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Yeah, I'm way behind in posting videos to this thread. I think there's 240 parts or something like that now. :( The boys, well Luke has been getting a lot of airtime with this last storyline.
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Well, it's a fascinating story and I'm trying to catch up on the episodes. I just can seem to drag myself away! Thanks for putting these up!
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Luke & Noah's 18th and 19th kisses were on yesterday! And what beautiful, romantic, unadulterated kisses they were! The boys are really getting good at kissing!! These were the most amazingly romantic, tender moments I have ever seen!!! It literally brings me to tears when I watch these scenes, or think of the boys together like this!!
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-01-13/the-gays-go-all-the-way-in-daytime/ (http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-01-13/the-gays-go-all-the-way-in-daytime/)
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The Gays Go All the Way in Daytime
by Henry Seltzer
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As the World Turns took an unexpected turn this week and went where no soap opera—and few primetime shows—has dared: showing two post-coital men.
On June 1, 2007, the character of Noah Mayer made his first appearance on As the World Turns, the daytime drama that has aired daily since 1956. He was a military brat turned heartthrob, who quickly hooked up with a fellow intern at the local television station. She fell for him—and so did her openly gay best friend, Luke Snyder.
It took a while for Noah (played by Jake Silberman) to admit his own attraction to Luke (Van Hansis), who had come out the previous summer. On August 17, 2007, Noah and Luke shared a groundbreaking kiss—the first gay male kiss in the history of American daytime dramas. Overnight, the clip went viral and still stands as one of the most-viewed videos on YouTube.
Since that fateful exchange of spit, the characters have naturally faced countless obstacles. At first, their mutual friend was caught in the crossfire of Noah's sexual identity crisis. Noah had to come out to his homophobic father, who (after killing his wife) soon conned Luke and Noah on a fishing trip where he shot Luke, paralyzing him from the waist down. But since this is daytime, where characters are known to have seven lives, it wasn't a surprise when Luke walked again thanks to the devotion and optimism of Noah's steadfast support. Even more twisted: Noah briefly married an Iraqi refugee to keep her in the country after she claimed his father saved her family. Luke and Noah stole kisses but fear of being discovered by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency drove their otherwise openly gay rapport back into the 1950s.
As the months wore on, the sexual tension between Luke and Noah (affectionately dubbed Nuke and Loah) grew. They kissed increasingly frequently and with decreasingly little fanfare from blogs, but they never went all the way. They did talk about sex—and what their first time would be like—but it never came anywhere near their horizon. Like everything in their relationship, intimacy was shown through incredibly compelling dialogue.
The inseparable pair talked about everything. Their feelings were always expressed (thanks in large part to head writer Jean Passanante, who happens to be responsible for the only two other gay characters in soap history) if not physically acted on.
Luke and Noah's dynamic escalated on New Year's Eve, when the night finally seemed right. Except for one elephant in the room: Luke's step-grandfather, who had kissed him during Thanksgiving. To make a convoluted story short, Luke got drunk (not a good thing when you've had a kidney transplant, too) after seeing Noah console his ex-girlfriend, and then he kissed his step-grandfather. Of course, Noah was a witness and threw a punch to protect "his love." When Luke confessed to initiating the kiss, Noah walked out, leaving Luke alone to read a note written from Noah, which was meant to be read the next morning, when they would have been together in bed.
For fans, it appeared, as usual, as if Luke and Noah had gone a few steps forward and many more steps back. Sure, they would recover over time. Like most soap "supercouples," they were meant to be. I was prepared for the long haul of relationship rebuilding.
It's difficult to explain to non-viewers how earnest and well-drawn Luke and Noah's relationship is. It was a task I felt ready to tackle after mildly (okay, very) obsessively watching the program (and getting hooked on the other plot lines in the process) for nearly two years now.
This weekend, I intended this article to be called "Why Daytime's Main Gays Should Abstain." It was going to be an attempt to explain how this couple is revolutionizing the portrayal of gays on television. They have had their share of media attention—beginning with their first kiss, a conservative outcry, and including a brief write-up in the New York Times—but nothing seemed to get at the heart of the matter.
For me at least, what makes Luke and Noah unique in television—and especially daytime—is that by not jumping in bed together, they're defying a classic gay stereotype. Indeed, many critics and gay bloggers accused As the World Turns (and Proctor and Gamble's production company) of having a double standard, since straight characters are routinely promiscuous.
In my view, the writers were holding the characters to a higher standard that should be applauded.
Who needs to see them shirtless between the sheets and read between the lines? As the World Turns is not The L Word or Queer as Folk. And for all its cliché, it's not as stereotypical as Will & Grace or Sex and the City when it comes to gay characters. Nor is it Brokeback Mountain.
As the World Turns seemed removed from that pressure—and in on the joke. This Christmas, for instance, Noah presented Luke with a watch that was engraved, "Worth the wait."
When I ran into stars of the show around New York City, I'd congratulate them for subtly making a difference. It seems as though more than gay-targeted programs, daytime shows have a special accessibility that allows them to win over hearts and minds. And they were (mostly) doing it via hearts and minds, not exposed nipples and wet chests.
Their epic relationship has lasted over a year. If that's forever in daytime (especially considering their collegiate age), it's an eternity in gay years—and, let's face it, that's a really long time to wait.
There is something to be said about a couple that shows its true colors (yes, Cyndi Lauper had a guest-spot during Pride Week) by their commitment, tenderness, sincerity, and loyalty in the face of so many odds, not because they wanted to get it on.
The more I watched As the World Turns, the less I actually wanted them to have sex.
So it came as a quite a shock, when on Monday's episode they rekindled their broken union by...having sex.
Without any warning or hysterics, the show took that unexpected turn and went where no daytime drama—and few primetime shows—has dared: Luke and Noah were shown post-coital, sheets ruffled.
And you know the best part? The person responsible for getting them back together after the fallout from Luke kissing his step-grandfather was his grandmother, the show's matriarch (played by Elizabeth Hubbard for the past 25 years), who was also the most understanding when Luke first came out.
So not only is this not your grandmother's soap, leave it to the grandmother-who-unwittingly-played-a-beard to get the boys back together.
She even delights in sharing their post-sex ice cream sundae.
Henry Seltzer is a homepage editor for The Daily Beast. He previously worked at UsMagazine.com (http://UsMagazine.com) and The Huffington Post and filed for Gawker and Wonkette.
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Yes! Yes! I was very excited to watch Monday's episode where the boys finally are able to be together WITHOUT ANY INTERRUPTIONS FOR ONCE! It was great to see their joy and happiness after finally connecting with each other. I love this show, and it's because of Luke & Noah!! I hope we get to see more and more of them together in the coming episodes!!
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This has been going on for months, so why are there no longer videos going on.?
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Lack of time for the most part.... Very busy schedule since last August. :) Also.... I was in a bit of a philosophical war with the other Nuke viewers, mainly because I felt that Lion (despite all its tragic situation) seemed to me like an interesting pairing. Brian's character is one of the most beautifully complex I have seen on a soap opera; and since I felt an attraction toward him ever since he joined the show, I have been quietly (and not so quietly) rooting for a Luke and Brian (Lion) pairing. This, of course, sent shock ripples through the Nuke world... but strangely enough, there are a number (and I mean a big number) who agreed with me.
Brian's last show is on January 15, and I'll be very sad to see him go.
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Parts 215 - 225
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Parts 226 - 235
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Parts 236 - 245 (including new actresses for Jade and Maddie)
As a review, Jade is Luke's cousin, and his best friend. Maddie was Noah's girlfriend for a time, although she was really in love with Casey.
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Parts 246 to 253 of the Luke and Noah storyline on As The World Turns. Including post-coital ice cream.
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Are the Luke and Noah videos still being posted? I am still running way behind on ATWT so I thought I would just start with yesterday since I finally got back to recording on DVD, but continue to watch and catch up on the old episodes I have recorded as well. I thought it might be good to at least catch up with the Luke and Noah part though. I never was much into soap operas until I started watching and recording ATWT and Port Charles back in 1999 except of course Dark Shadows when I was growing up. It is funny how many characters from Port Charles ended up on ATWT. And I did watch Passions off and on while it was on.
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Many moons ago, when I was a teenager, I used to watch General Hospital and One Life to Live. I also loved Dark Shadows. My mom watched As The World Turns every day when I was a kid. I don't know if or when she ever stopped watching it, prior to her passing away in 2002. I discovered Luke & Noah on this thread and started watching ATWT last fall. Now I'm hooked on it, and I tape it every day and watch it in the evenings. I love the Luke & Noah story line. I love seeing them together.
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Many moons ago, when I was a teenager, I used to watch General Hospital and One Life to Live. I also loved Dark Shadows. My mom watched As The World Turns every day when I was a kid. I don't know if or when she ever stopped watching it, prior to her passing away in 2002. I discovered Luke & Noah on this thread and started watching ATWT last fall. Now I'm hooked on it, and I tape it every day and watch it in the evenings. I love the Luke & Noah story line. I love seeing them together.
I was addicted to Dark Shadows growing up.....had to be home every day after school to watch it. I have bought some of the DVDs, but have still never really got around to watching them.......never enough time....lol. I remember I was totally crushed when Barnabas killed Tom Jennings....damn I loved Tom Jennings. Of course he came back as Chris Jennings the werewolf, but he never was to me what Tom was. They were both played by Don Briscoe......see I even remember his real name. Anyway, I started watching As The World Turns with my mother in 1999 after Another World was cancelled cause some of the characters came over to ATWT. She was upset about Another World going off so I told her I had heard some of the people were coming to ATWT. Then I got wound up with Carly and Jack as well as Molly, Chris, Abigail, etc. and so I have followed it ever since. I think Carly and Jack are one of the best couples ever. Carly is beautiful and Jack is very handsome. I think the show has done a great job with the Luke story throughout. As The World Turns is THE soap opera that all of them have tried to live up to over the years. It is the Cadillac of soap operas and it always will be. When Carol Burnett picked it for the soap opera in her skits, As The Stomach Turns, you know it it iconic. There will never be another ATWT.
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CBS cancels "As The World Turns" Last episode to air in September 2010.
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I am saddened by this news. At the Lukeandnoahfans.com website, they are encouraging fans to write to Lifetime channel, and tell them how much the show means to them, and asking Lifetime to pick it up so it can continue on that channel. If only that would work, that would be great!
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I am creating a new thread to hopefully try and save "As The World Turns" either on CBS or another network. I did not know about the lukeandnoah.com site, but I will check that out. ATWT is not just about Luke and Noah although that is a great and groundbreaking storyline. In 1988, ATWT also featured the first gay male character on American soap operas. The show has been groundbreaking in many ways as well as being a historic icon and American institution. It really deserves our support.
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Jack, the Luke and Noah site is lukeandnoahfans.com, not lukeandnoah.com Check it out. It is a great site with so much to see & do there. They are trying very hard to think up ways to try and save the show. I sincerely hope they can somehow pull it off and keep it up and running. I would miss Luke & Noah very much!