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Title: What I dislike about the BM movie is that in the trailer Earl is shown in an [b]
Post by: Artiste on January 10, 2008, 11:46:16 pm

May I ask again, now as a thread?

What I dislike about the BM movie is that in the trailer Earl is shown in an negative light!!

Do you feel that is so??

Why?

Hugs!!

May gay men in the whole world be safe and straights too!!

Title: Re: What I dislike about the BM movie is that in the trailer Earl is shown in an
Post by: LauraGigs on January 11, 2008, 02:07:35 am

I don't really understand, Artiste.  You mean in the promotional trailers for the movie, where they show a few short scenes?  I don't remember seeing Earl in a trailer like that.  (I might be wrong though.)

Title: Re: What I dislike about the BM movie is that in the trailer Earl is shown in an [b]
Post by: Artiste on January 11, 2008, 12:55:52 pm

Thanks LauraGigs!

Yes, was it not that in the promotional trailer?

Tell me,

hugs!

Title: Re: What I dislike about the BM movie is that in the trailer Earl is shown in an
Post by: LauraGigs on January 11, 2008, 01:27:47 pm

I don't recall Earl being shown in any of the promotional trailers.

But anyway, why do you think Earl is portrayed negatively?

In my opinion, Earl's death is presented in the film as being a very tragic, awful thing.  If the film had no sympathy for Earl, his death wouldn't have been treated as tragic.
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I have another thought too. You know how character names tend to have some significance?

Ennis del Mar = Island in the sea.  (Isolated and lonely)
Aguirre = Eagle eye.  (Authority figure. Observing from above.)

What about the two men Ennis described?  Not Tom and Andrew, Jim and David, Eric and Steve, etc.  But Earl and Rich.

Earl = minor royalty, a man with land, wealth and distinction.
Rich = wealthy and blessed

If only one man in that couple had a name with such happy implications, I'd be open to the idea that maybe they were random name choices.  But it's too much of a coincidence that both men have such names.

So why did Proulx pick these names?  The implication is a positive one, IMO.

Title: Re: What I dislike about the BM movie is that in the trailer Earl is shown in an [b]
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on January 11, 2008, 02:02:24 pm

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(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l173/nltoast/XXclusively.jpg)

These guys appear xclusively in the trailer.
But who is that with the tire-iron:
A friend?  Or a prowling assailant?

I think this is what you are talking about Artiste....right.

We never did know for sure who they were.  Maybe Earl and Rich,,,maybe mechanics that
could have killed Jack.  No answer to that....

Title: Re: What I dislike about the BM movie is that in the trailer Earl is shown in an
Post by: LauraGigs on January 11, 2008, 02:31:03 pm

^ Those are definitely the mechanics from a deleted scene.  In the scene, they are eyeing Jack while he and Randall say goodbye after meeting for a fishing trip.

For futher details, go here http://www.findingbrokeback.com/Deleted_Scenes/_Deleted_Scenes_Frame.html (http://www.findingbrokeback.com/Deleted_Scenes/_Deleted_Scenes_Frame.html) and click "sneering mechanics" on the left side.

Title: Re: What I dislike about the BM movie is that in the trailer Earl is shown in an [b]
Post by: Brown Eyes on January 11, 2008, 02:33:08 pm

I think Earl is portrayed and discussed in a way to make the viewer feel a great deal of sympathy for him and remorse at what happened to him.

He's certainly meant to be a tragic figure... something to make the audience really worry/ feel bad about violence against gay men like Earl.  

Title: Re: What I dislike about the BM movie is that in the trailer Earl is shown in an [b]
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on January 11, 2008, 02:43:39 pm

          To show the authenticity of Ennis's phobia.  Fear of the tire iron...

Title: Re: What I dislike about the BM movie is that in the trailer Earl is shown in an
Post by: souxi on January 11, 2008, 02:45:04 pm

Quote from: LauraGigs on January 11, 2008, 02:31:03 pm

^ Those are definitely the mechanics from a deleted scene.  In the scene, they are eyeing Jack while he and Randall say goodbye after meeting for a fishing trip.

For futher details, go here http://www.findingbrokeback.com/Deleted_Scenes/_Deleted_Scenes_Frame.html (http://www.findingbrokeback.com/Deleted_Scenes/_Deleted_Scenes_Frame.html) and click "sneering mechanics" on the left side.

Yes they are, because in the credits at the end, they are listed as the: "killer mechanics". Poor Jack. :'(

Title: Re: What I dislike about the BM movie is that in the trailer Earl is shown in an [b]
Post by: Artiste on January 11, 2008, 11:47:49 pm

Thanks all of you!!

Great to know these things... from all of you! Am very surprised that so far all women answered, then souxi!! I thought that maybe mostly gays would have jumped at this right away!!

Souxi... if that pic is of the killer mechanics, then why this image as portrait??

LauraGigs... what does sneering mechanics mean??

Much need to be said still about Jack murdered or not, and about Earl too...

hugs!!

Title: Re: What I dislike about the BM movie is that in the trailer Earl is shown in an [b]
Post by: Artiste on January 12, 2008, 06:17:24 pm

Are you sure about his image?

Hugs!

Title: Re: What I dislike about the BM movie is that in the trailer Earl is shown in an
Post by: LauraGigs on January 12, 2008, 06:19:55 pm

(http://www.findingbrokeback.com/Deleted_Scenes/SneeringMechanicsM.jpg)

This is the part of the trailer you were referring to, right?

Yes, we're sure Artiste.  These are mechanics.  See the tire iron in the guy's hands?

Title: Re: What I dislike about the BM movie is that in the trailer Earl is shown in an [b]
Post by: Artiste on January 12, 2008, 08:05:44 pm

Thanks Laura Gigs!

Yes, that image tells me something. But I always thought that these two were lovers!! That the older chap looks on to killers arriving to murder him!! That image still troubles me!!

So, this image was placed in the promotional trailer, why, since you say that these are THE murderers??

....

I am confused... a lot!! To me the older, I thought was the lover of the other!!

So, it there a pic  of the two tough old birds that Ennis qualified??

Hugs!