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Title: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 24, 2008, 08:32:22 pm
Anyone planning to watch?  I am.  Mostly to watch for Heath tributes.  I'm not watching any of the red carpet stuff however.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: oilgun on February 24, 2008, 09:49:43 pm
Jack Nicholson should really get the hell out of the first row and give his seat to one of the nominees.  I'm so sick of seeing his maniacally grinning face with those ridiculous shades!
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 24, 2008, 10:00:39 pm
I think Anne Hathaway looks real cute, and did a lovely job...

so, how does Jack Nicholson always end up in the first row?  does he get it for being such a caricature?
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: oilgun on February 24, 2008, 10:05:04 pm
I guess he's considered royalty or something.

Jennifer Garner's dress was beautiful except that it really squished her boobs.  I noticed a couple of dresses that did that,  is it a trend?

Well, Little Happy Working Song is NOT going to win, lol! I can't believe it was even nominated!
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 24, 2008, 10:14:19 pm
I guess he's considered royalty or something.

Jennifer Garner's dress was beautiful except that it really squished her boobs.  I noticed a couple of dresses that did that,  is it a trend?

Well, Little Happy Working Song is NOT going to win, lol! I can't believe it was even nominated!

I was too busy wondering how annoyed she was at her hair to notice her boobs.

Yes, that song made me wish they'd ix-nay the category.

The Walking Tall dude?  Really??
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 24, 2008, 10:15:40 pm
I am totally pleased to see Harrison Ford wearing glasses in the audience!
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: oilgun on February 24, 2008, 10:23:44 pm
I guess it's just the two of us?  Are we bonding, lol!

Walking Tall dude?  I missed that  (My TV is in another room so I run back and forth.)

Jennifer's dress was more noticeable during the red carpet segment.  There was a good profile shot.

Javier Bardem winning was no surprise.  He looked mighty good. And he brought his mom!  Very sweet!

Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 24, 2008, 10:26:57 pm
Yes, I loved Javier's speech!  I guess I will have to see NCFOM after all...

we may be the only ones talking but others are listening, lol

i rearranged the house today so i could watch the tv and use the laptop at the same time.  mainly i did this for the heath film festival, but it's working out well for this too!

i can't remember, did Into the Wild get other nominations?  that is one of the few movies i've seen.

Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 24, 2008, 10:29:22 pm
I am here and I just turned it on! Back from my work dinner, finally....the evening is mine!

What have I missed?

Have they performed the song from ONCE yet?

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 24, 2008, 10:34:41 pm
i am surprised to see owen wilson.

he said "pitcher" instead of "picture"
 ;D

leslie, the only songs have been from enchanted and august rush
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 24, 2008, 10:47:49 pm
jessica alba is pregnant?
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: Shasta542 on February 24, 2008, 10:49:20 pm
Yes. By Cash Warren.

I didn't like Tilda Swinton's dress, but her speech was pretty good.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 24, 2008, 10:49:58 pm
holy crap, i never heard james mcavoy's real voice before!!!  he didn't sound like that in the last king of scotland.

WOW.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 24, 2008, 10:50:30 pm
yes shasta, i liked her speech too!
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 24, 2008, 10:55:22 pm
i am surprised to see owen wilson.

he said "pitcher" instead of "picture"
 ;D

leslie, the only songs have been from enchanted and august rush

I want the song from Once to win but my track record is pretty bad so far tonight....

Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: oilgun on February 24, 2008, 11:03:06 pm
I want the song from Once to win but my track record is pretty bad so far tonight....



Me too!  It's the only decent song in the bunch.

I forgot. To mention.  How. Terrible. Jennifer. Hudson. Was. Comma.  Reading. The. Tele. Prompter.

Tilda Swinton winning was quite the upset!  Someone won big somewhere, lol!  She should NOT wear black though.  Ever again.

Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 24, 2008, 11:05:37 pm
yeah, I felt sorta bad for Jennifer Hudson...

has she done anything since winning last year's Oscar?

I thought the superbad guys were funny.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 24, 2008, 11:13:15 pm
i can't believe they are announcing best actress before best song...

 :P
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: oilgun on February 24, 2008, 11:18:16 pm
I KNOW!  How weird! 

The superbad guys were funny.  I'm also impressed with the host (I'm having an Away From Her moment, lol!) he's muh improved from last year.

And what a letdown, giving it to Marion Cotilliard for her twitchy OTT performance.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 24, 2008, 11:24:30 pm
yeah, I felt sorta bad for Jennifer Hudson...

has she done anything since winning last year's Oscar?


She'll be hard pressed for parts for the rest of her career because as someone said to me (not too kindly, but it is true)...she's black and she's fat. And those roles are not a dime a dozen, unfortunately.

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 24, 2008, 11:28:12 pm
wow leslie, i am loving the Once performance.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 24, 2008, 11:29:58 pm
i can't believe they are announcing best actress before best song...

 :P

They always do. They always announce them in the same order every year.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 24, 2008, 11:30:28 pm
wow leslie, i am loving the Once performance.

Wasn't it great? Now you need to see the movie. He played the same guitar.

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: oilgun on February 24, 2008, 11:35:18 pm
Wasn't it great? Now you need to see the movie. He played the same guitar.

L

It's clearly the song that should win.  No contest.

Nicole Kidman. Another one who shouldn't wear black.  But now I'm wondering if they might be doing it because of Heath!

Edit: That old guy is still talking...

Rene looked amazing in that dress.

Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 24, 2008, 11:38:12 pm
They always do. They always announce them in the same order every year.

well, i still find it weird...

 ::)
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 24, 2008, 11:39:36 pm
It's clearly the song that should win.  No contest.

Nicole Kidman. Another one who shouldn't wear black.  But now I'm wondering if they might be doing it because of Heath!


I thought she looked more human than usual. They say she is off the botox because of being pregnant, maybe that is why.

But I don't think she knows what accent to speak in anymore! What a weird mishmash came out of her mouth...

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: oilgun on February 24, 2008, 11:41:30 pm
She'll be hard pressed for parts for the rest of her career because as someone said to me (not too kindly, but it is true)...she's black and she's fat. And those roles are not a dime a dozen, unfortunately.

L

Not to mention the fact that she can't really act. But she sure can sing.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 24, 2008, 11:42:17 pm

Edit: That old guy is still talking...


We should all look so good and be so articulate at 98....I'll probably be drooling!

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Rene looked amazing in that dress.



But her squinty eyes bug me...LOL

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 24, 2008, 11:46:32 pm
I hope all these Enchanted songs cancel each other out...

EDIT: and they did! hooray hooray...but I can't believe they cut the woman off from saying anything ...how flipping rude!!!

EDIT EDIT again: Obviously they realized they fucked up! She came back for her thank you and no cutting off music this time!!
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 24, 2008, 11:46:54 pm
shouldn't there be some rule about how many songs can be submitted from one film?

exactly, l.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: oilgun on February 24, 2008, 11:49:10 pm
We should all look so good and be so articulate at 98....I'll probably be drooling!



I've actually caught myself drooling a couple of times already.  And not over some hot number either.  Drooling drooling.

Anyway, let me reiterate that the song from ONCE is easily the best song of the bunch, lol!

EDIT:  And it wins!  ooowee!
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 24, 2008, 11:57:03 pm
drooling drooling, hah hah...

i only do that in my sleep!

lol.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: delalluvia on February 25, 2008, 12:06:22 am
The image of Heath was perfect.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: Shasta542 on February 25, 2008, 12:06:37 am
They showed Heath as our Ennis.  
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: oilgun on February 25, 2008, 12:08:21 am
The image of Heath was perfect.

Yes it was.  Did they show Brad Renfro?  I didn't see him.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 25, 2008, 12:09:31 am
well, i found it disappointing, as I did in the SAG awards.

no they did not show Brad Renfro.

I still take comfort in DDL's speech.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: Shasta542 on February 25, 2008, 12:10:15 am
I think they adjusted the time frame so that Heath could be included this year.

No. I didn't see Brad Renfro either.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 12:10:39 am
Yes it was.  Did they show Brad Renfro?  I didn't see him.

Nope.

And yes, the picture of Heath was excellent, but he should have gotten two scenes from two movies like lots of the others did...

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: Brown Eyes on February 25, 2008, 12:15:55 am
Which Ennis pic/scene was it?  I'm not watching the Oscars tonight, but I'm curious about this part of course.

Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 25, 2008, 12:16:17 am
alright, I am ready for the end already!
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 25, 2008, 12:17:31 am
it was two shots of him up against Aguirre's trailer from the beginning of the movie, one with head down, other head up, but looking sideways (avoiding getting caught looking at jack)
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: cmr107 on February 25, 2008, 12:19:06 am
I just got home and turned it on like 5 minutes before the In Memorium thing. I agree, Heath should have had two scenes, but I liked how he was last (save the best for last, you know) and that there was that lovely swell in the music when it cut to him.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: Brown Eyes on February 25, 2008, 12:19:54 am
it was two shots of him up against the Aguirre's trailer from the beginning of the movie, one with head down, other looking at the camera

I just got home and turned it on like 5 minutes before the In Memorium thing. I agree, Heath should have had two scenes, but I liked how he was last (save the best for last, you know) and that there was that lovely swell in the music when it cut to him.

Thanks Friends. :)

Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: Shasta542 on February 25, 2008, 12:27:19 am
Who names their kid, "Diablo"?  LOL.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 12:28:53 am
I just got home and turned it on like 5 minutes before the In Memorium thing. I agree, Heath should have had two scenes, but I liked how he was last (save the best for last, you know) and that there was that lovely swell in the music when it cut to him.

Except that I think all the deaths were honored in chronological order so of course Heath was last.

Sorry to be so cynical but it could have been much, much more. But then, we are dealing with the Academy. What did I expect?

Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 12:29:45 am
Who names their kid, "Diablo"?  LOL.

No one. She made her name up.

Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: cmr107 on February 25, 2008, 12:31:41 am
Who names their kid, "Diablo"?  LOL.

Diablo Cody is her pen name. Her real name is Brooke something. And I'm glad she won.  :)

Except that I think all the deaths were honored in chronological order so of course Heath was last.

Yeah, I figured, but I still liked him being at the end. I'm choosing to be positive.  :-\
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 12:39:33 am


Yeah, I figured, but I still liked him being at the end. I'm choosing to be positive.  :-\

And that's a good attitude, Courtney! I am trying, but it is tough....

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: delalluvia on February 25, 2008, 12:40:02 am
Diablo Cody is her pen name. Her real name is Brooke something. And I'm glad she won.  :)

Yeah, I figured, but I still liked him being at the end. I'm choosing to be positive.  :-\

I'm surprised they didn't have Renfro.

It was chronological, it was fitting and poignant to have Heath last - I note that he was the youngest of this year's group.  The simplicity of the scene was lovely and will leave a lasting bittersweet memory.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: oilgun on February 25, 2008, 12:41:05 am
No one. She made her name up.



Maybe it was her stripper name.  
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: delalluvia on February 25, 2008, 12:42:21 am

Ye gods, Helen Mirren was gorgeous.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 25, 2008, 12:47:25 am
well, it is my bedtime.
thanks for hanging out guys.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: oilgun on February 25, 2008, 12:47:47 am
NO COUNTRY hat trick.  Like I said before, I've never won an Oscar pool, lol!
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 12:49:57 am
NO COUNTRY hat trick.  Like I said before, I've never won an Oscar pool, lol!

Me neither and this year was no exception! LOL

Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: Shasta542 on February 25, 2008, 12:50:12 am
NO COUNTRY hat trick.  Like I said before, I've never won an Oscar pool, lol!

LOL. Who did you bet on?
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: oilgun on February 25, 2008, 12:50:43 am
Ye gods, Helen Mirren was gorgeous.

On the red carpet, she said, in reference to her dress, that it was inspired by the role she is working on now, "a madam in a whorehouse", lol!

Goodnight all!
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: oilgun on February 25, 2008, 12:52:05 am
LOL. Who did you bet on?

I thought THERE WILL B BLOOD and NO COUNTRY would split the vote and ATONEMENT would end up getting it.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 12:52:22 am
Night everyone! This has been fun...

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: serious crayons on February 25, 2008, 02:39:47 am
I'm coming to this so late because I apparently can't multitask as well as you guys and watch and comment online at the same time. So while I'd like to say something in response to just about every comment everybody here made, I'll limit myself to these:

1. Am I the only member of the Brokies for Jon Stewart Fan Club? I thought he was fabulous. My favorite line was the thing about how during the commercials, they all discuss the tacky clothes that viewers at home are wearing. I also loved his remark after the incredibly down-to-earth and humble "Once" guy accepted his award: "Can you believe how arrogant that guy is?" But just about everything Jon Stewart said was funny.

2. Marion Cotillard was not my predicted BA winner, but she was very good as Edith Piaf and really charming at the ceremony. She looks like Emily Blunt's sister. And Amy Adams looks like Isla Fischer's sister. They should play two sets of sisters in some movie sometime! (Apologies for whatever name misspellings I committed above.)

3. Javier Bardem was not the BSA I was rooting for, but he was so charming in his speech -- his humor, his mother, his hotness -- that I got over it. Ditto Tilda Swinton! She was great. And DDL, whom I was rooting for because I knew my time would be wasted rooting for anyone else, was also charming.

4. I was hoping for a little more in the tribute to Heath, but I knew it would be politically dicey to make a bigger deal of Heath than Ingmar Bergman. But I do think they changed the dates of the death range to accomodate Heath. Normally, wouldn't it be the calendar year 2007? Instead, they went from Jan. 31, 2006 to Feb. 1, 2007. I think Heath is why.

5. Clotheswise, I didn't see anyone who I thought looked fantastic, but I didn't see anyone hideous, either. Lots of pretty ordinary dresses, especially all the black ones (for Heath? for Iraq? for the writers?), and none that stood out as being Halle-Berryishly lovely. Squished boobs were in great supply. Why is it that Nicole Kidman always looks so beautiful as her characters and so so-so in real life, at least at these red-carpet events? That seems the reverse of most actresses!

6. My stripper name is Twinkle Thrushwood. It's almost like I chose my first pet's name and my parents chose their street with an eye toward my future stripper career, isn't it?





Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: cmr107 on February 25, 2008, 02:53:45 am
1. Am I the only member of the Brokies for Jon Stewart Fan Club? I thought he was fabulous. My favorite line was the thing about how during the commercials, they all discuss the tacky clothes that viewers at home are wearing. I also loved his remark after the incredibly down-to-earth and humble "Once" guy accepted his award: "Can you believe how arrogant that guy is?" But just about everything Jon Stewart said was funny.

Well, I only saw like the last half-hour, but I love Jon Stewart. I can't really comment on how he did tonight as host, but I pretty much think he's always funny.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: opinionista on February 25, 2008, 06:12:10 am
I didn't see the ceremony because they air it here so late. I am so happy Marion Cotillard won the Oscar. I think that is very well deserved. She did an outstanding job, and almost nobody talked about it. It was a hard role to play, given that Edith Piaf was a complex woman.  Marion Cotillard was truly amazing.

The rest of the winners -except for Tilda Swinton- (I was not expecting her to win anything) wasn't a surprise to me.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 07:09:58 am
I'm coming to this so late because I apparently can't multitask as well as you guys and watch and comment online at the same time. So while I'd like to say something in response to just about every comment everybody here made, I'll limit myself to these:

1. Am I the only member of the Brokies for Jon Stewart Fan Club? I thought he was fabulous. My favorite line was the thing about how during the commercials, they all discuss the tacky clothes that viewers at home are wearing. I also loved his remark after the incredibly down-to-earth and humble "Once" guy accepted his award: "Can you believe how arrogant that guy is?" But just about everything Jon Stewart said was funny.



Jon was funny, but my favorite funny line from the night came from a dead guy: Bob Hope. They were doing a silly montage (pointless, really) about how they handle the voting (EVERYONE watches ALL of the movies! Really!) and then keep the results secret. They showed this clip of Bob and he says, "Then the secretary carefully types everything up and then they take her outside and shoot her." Okay, it looks sort of stark in black and white but it was funny on TV (in black and white!).

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 07:15:41 am
5. Clotheswise, I didn't see anyone who I thought looked fantastic, but I didn't see anyone hideous, either. Lots of pretty ordinary dresses, especially all the black ones (for Heath? for Iraq? for the writers?), and none that stood out as being Halle-Berryishly lovely. Squished boobs were in great supply. Why is it that Nicole Kidman always looks so beautiful as her characters and so so-so in real life, at least at these red-carpet events? That seems the reverse of most actresses!


I thought Helen Mirren, in red with silver sleeves, looked quite wonderful. You are right, no over the top clothes like the old days (ah, remember Cher and Bob Mackie) but lots of pretty things: Rene Zellweger in silver, Cameron Diaz in pink, Jessica Alba's dress was pretty (sort of a dark maroon). I even liked Nicole Kidman's black ensemble. Tilda Swinton's dress was vaguely reminiscent of a black garbage bag, though. I didn't see the red carpet intro so I missed the parade of fashion.

I can't say I am too fond of Diablo Cody's tattoo, though. What is she, channeling Amy Winehouse? Although Amy's "babe" has bare boobs and Diablo's is wearing a bikini top. Still, neither one is my taste!

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: belbbmfan on February 25, 2008, 08:12:36 am
I thought Helen Mirren, in red with silver sleeves, looked quite wonderful. You are right, no over the top clothes like the old days (ah, remember Cher and Bob Mackie) but lots of pretty things: Rene Zellweger in silver, Cameron Diaz in pink, Jessica Alba's dress was pretty (sort of a dark maroon). I even liked Nicole Kidman's black ensemble. Tilda Swinton's dress was vaguely reminiscent of a black garbage bag, though. I didn't see the red carpet intro so I missed the parade of fashion.

I can't say I am too fond of Diablo Cody's tattoo, though. What is she, channeling Amy Winehouse? Although Amy's "babe" has bare boobs and Diablo's is wearing a bikini top. Still, neither one is my taste!

L

I thought Helen Mirren looked great, very classy.

And did you like Cate Blanchett's dress? It's by Belgian designer Dries Van Noten. I think she looked amazing.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m312/Belbbmfan/cb_0.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: belbbmfan on February 25, 2008, 08:22:37 am
I just finished reading this thread. Thanks for reporting back to us.  :)

It's a good way of 'watching' the oscars in a couple of minutes!  :D

Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: smellykellyjay on February 25, 2008, 09:14:13 am
Yes, that song made me wish they'd ix-nay the category.

Remember back in the day when you had heard three or four of the songs before, even if you hadn't seen the movie?  Of course, "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" was once nominated in this category.  That alone makes me a non-supporter. 

I think the Academy has changed the rules for this category in the last few years to prevent songs that were barely featured in a film from getting a nomination and possibly winning.  I also think that's why none of the original songs from Bbm were nominated, because they didn't meet the criteria.  It was a disappointment to me, as I was hoping "I Don't Want to Say Goodbye" to at least get a nomination and wanted to see if performed live. 

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The Walking Tall dude?  Really??

Do you mean Dwayne Johnson, aka The Rock?  No worse than Jessica Alba in my mind.  Actually, I like the looks of him.  He looks like he tastes good. 
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: smellykellyjay on February 25, 2008, 09:23:54 am
They always do. They always announce them in the same order every year.

I've been watching the Oscars since I was, like, three, and I think the earlier announcement of Best Actress is recentish, that it used to be one of the last awards given out.  Best Actress, Best Actor, Best Director, Best Picture, the big four, used to be the last handed out.  I thought they moved it on up (along with Best Supporting Acting awards years earlier), spreading them out through the ceremony, because they wanted people to watch the whole show and not just the last half hour or so to see the big uns. 
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: opinionista on February 25, 2008, 10:55:22 am
I just realized that I guessed she'd win.

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,17423.0.html (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,17423.0.html)

Marion Cotillard

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/nataligv_2006/Marion_Cotillard.jpg)

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/nataligv_2006/558769.jpg)
As Edith Piaf
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: serious crayons on February 25, 2008, 11:44:14 am
Here's a Slate discussion of Oscar fashions. I've excerpted part in which they discuss the preponderance of black (and red).

http://www.slate.com/id/2185033/nav/tap3/ (http://www.slate.com/id/2185033/nav/tap3/)

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Oscar Fashion Report Card
Why so many black dresses? And which ones were best?

By Amanda Fortini and Julia Turner
Posted Monday, Feb. 25, 2008, at 4:50 AM ET

Julia Turner: Amanda, thanks for joining me once again to discuss this year's Oscar frocks. I was going to start by asking you who had the best dress, but we can narrow it down a bit tonight: Who had the best black dress, and who had the best red one?

Amanda Fortini: I think I counted nine black dresses.

Julia: At least! Ellen Page, Nicole Kidman, Jennifer Garner, Laura Linney, Hilary Swank, Penelope Cruz …

Amanda: Tilda Swinton.

Julia: Yes! Even Little Miss Once. And in red we had Anne Hathaway, Katherine Heigl, Helen Mirren, Miley Cyrus …

Amanda: … Ruby Dee, Heidi Klum, Julie Christie. There was quite a divide. One group seemed to be paying homage to this somber moment we're in, and one group seemed to be attempting a celebratory mood.

Julia: Do you think the preponderance of black had anything to do with the writers' strike?

Amanda: I think so. There has been so much fallout, not just for the writers but for everyone in the industry, and so I guess it seemed a moment for respect. There was an almost funereal aspect to much of the garb—well, off-the-shoulder looks excepted.

Julia: Right. They all seemed to be in mourning, except that in Hollywood, mourning includes sequins and marabou.

Amanda: And then there was the opposite approach: Let's celebrate the end of the strike! In bright red! The color seemed a very deliberate effort to brighten things up.

Julia: Or maybe it was Reds red: Cheers to those commies in the unions!

Amanda: Don't you wonder, though, how it comes to be that practically everyone wears red? Who says, This year, girls, it's red! Why not bright green or royal blue?

Julia: I know! Poor Amy Adams didn't get the memo.

Amanda: And yet I liked her dress. It was Cameron Diaz who looked like she was of another moment. Blush felt out of place—like it belonged to a more carefree, innocent time.

(continues ...)


Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: oilgun on February 25, 2008, 12:35:20 pm
Here's a Slate discussion of Oscar fashions. I've excerpted part in which they discuss the preponderance of black (and red).

http://www.slate.com/id/2185033/nav/tap3/ (http://www.slate.com/id/2185033/nav/tap3/)



Looks like Marion Cotillard was the style winner of the night with her J-P Gaultier "explicit mermaid" dress and I have to agree.  I hated those god-awful black frocks it felt like a Victorian funeral or something.

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w197/oilgun/Mermaid-dress.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: serious crayons on February 25, 2008, 01:35:01 pm
I'm not big on ecru or explicit mermaid, but she was so cute and charming you couldn't not love her outfit, too.


Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: southendmd on February 25, 2008, 01:45:55 pm
I like Marion's dress, actually.

However, her performance was "twitchy and OTT" per Gil!  LOL  I have to agree.

Oscar loves biopics, remember?
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: serious crayons on February 25, 2008, 01:55:55 pm
Oscar loves biopics, remember?

A friend of mine pointed out the other night that all biopics have the exact same plot. From Lady Sings the Blues on up through La Vie en Rose.

Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on February 25, 2008, 02:12:15 pm


          I will love to see the day that bio-pics are not allowed to be entered.  I am sick of people doing
imitations winning the awards.  That compared with someone having to make a total character up out of
their own mind and body/  Heath Ledger-Ennis.   Daniel Day Lewis- TWBB or other like characters.  Ingenuity
instead of aping.  JMO
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 04:31:36 pm
From the Boston Globe. This would be the review I would have written, if I could write reviews!

Looking back doesn't help show look good

By Matthew Gilbert, Globe Staff  |  February 25, 2008

And the big theme of Oscar's 80th annual ceremony last night was . . . the past. Snore.

We were repeatedly shown clips of grand acceptances from the good old days - Bette Davis giving the statue to Marlon Brando, for example. The approach smacked of desperation, as if the Academy didn't want us to forget its former greatness. After all, the Oscarcast has lost viewers since its high of 55 million in 1998, the year "Titanic" won, and only one of this year's best-picture nominees - "Juno" - has grossed more than $65 million. The potatoes are getting a little smaller.

So it was good to see Jon Stewart being Jon Stewart. He is shaping up to be a dependable Oscar host for the post-Billy Crystal years. He's not musical, but he's versatile enough to swing smoothly between jokes about politics, Hollywood, new media, and, most importantly, hair. Last night, after every Oscar moment of ego bloat, and after the many long stretches of highlight-reel nostalgia, his aggressively ironic smile was a welcome sight at the podium.

Stewart filled the night with small, necessary doses of writers'-strike humor, noting, "The fight is over, so tonight welcome to the makeup sex," and reminding us that we'd be watching the Oscar salute to "binoculars and periscopes" if the battle hadn't ended. And, of course, he jabbed at major campaign figures: "Hillary Clinton called it the feel-good movie of the year," he said about "Away From Her," about a woman who forgets her husband's name.

As the hours submerged further into anticlimax, retrospective, and pure strangeness - Amy Adams's cloyingly cheery rendition of "Happy Working Song," Jerry Seinfeld once again not being funny as an animated bee, Nicole Kidman's absurdly tight face - Stewart's offhanded bits were a little something to anticipate.

After winner Javier Bardem thanked his mother in Spanish - one of the night's many thank-yous by those from other countries - Stewart announced: "I believe he told his mother where the library is." He goofed on Cate Blanchett's versatility, noting that not only did she play Queen Elizabeth and Bob Dylan, but she was playing him at that moment. And he let us catch him watching "Lawrence of Arabia" on his iPhone after a long Oscar clip montage. He didn't bring down the house, but he kept it from falling apart.

The presenters seemed to be suffering from a shortage of glamour, especially in comparison to those in the old clips. The Rock - uh, I mean Dwayne Johnson - made a stiff attempt at a joke, Katherine Heigl was a bundle of apologetic nerves, Owen Wilson looked like he'd rather be reading People magazine than standing onstage. The young Miley Cyrus was preternaturally un-freaked out.

Relief from the blandness did come periodically, notably when Tilda Swinton won best supporting actress and joked her way through her acceptance speech. Goofing on George Clooney and his Batman costume is a sure way to endear yourself. She looked tall and spooked, but she was all humor and grace.

Best actress winner Marion Cotillard was a fountain of tears and gratitude. "Thank you life! Thank you love! It is true that there are some angels in this city!" She is so French! Even the many viewers who haven't seen her movie, "La Vie en Rose," had to have been dazzled. She was much more colorful and alive than everything that had come before her - oh wait, Kristin Chenoweth's performance of "Happily Ever After" was colorful, colorfully awful.

Daniel Day-Lewis was as gracious as he could be, and watching him exit the stage with presenter Helen Mirren was like seeing the power couple of the century in their glory. We can only wonder about their small talk. And producer Scott Rudin, accepting for "No Country for Old Men," was as exhilarated as the Coen Brothers were cautious, telling his partner, "Without you, honey, this would be hardware."

In another sweet moment, Stewart invited Marketa Irglova back to the stage after she'd lost her big chance to give thanks for her "Once" best song prize with Glen Hansard. She was dull, but inspiringly sincere.

During the pre-show, the rain was falling over Hollywood, but you'd have thought it was the sky. The red carpet - "the center of the entertainment universe," as Ryan Seacrest called it on E! - snapped with apocalyptic energy as everyone crammed together under a clear tent.

On break from "American Idol," Seacrest was in high spirits when he wasn't whining about sweating so much. He asked Jessica Alba if she planned to breastfeed her forthcoming baby; he gushed over Clooney, who had girlfriend and "Fear Factor" graduate Sarah Larson by his side; and he mocked Cotillard's accent. He got Mirren to divulge a secret about her Oscar: "I've knitted him a little scarf," she confided. She's so British!

The good times halted for a moment when Gary Busey got all up in Seacrest's face about something or another - it wasn't precisely clear. Busey muttered about not liking what Seacrest wasn't saying, then proceeded to repulse Jennifer Garner by kissing her on the neck. But it was Seacrest he had in his sights, hoping to throw the little prince off his throne for a few minutes.

As if out of the asylum for the night, Busey decided it was his responsibility to keep things real on the red carpet. He had his work cut out for him.

Matthew Gilbert can be reached at [email protected]. For more on TV, visit boston.com/ae/tv/blog/.

http://www.boston.com/ae/movies/oscars/articles/2008/02/25/looking_back_doesnt_help_show_look_good/?page=full
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: oilgun on February 25, 2008, 04:44:59 pm
Darn I missed the Busey/Seacrest incident!  Good review, I tend to agree with most of the comments.  Jon Stewart really was funny, what an improvement from last year.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: Fran on February 25, 2008, 05:11:18 pm
Two questions:

1.  Why was Miley Cyrus a presenter?  If they needed a youthful presenter, why not the girl from Atonement?

2.  What happened to Cameron Diaz's face?  She was all cheekbones.  (Maybe she's lost a ton of weight.)

Meow.  :)

As for Jon Stewart jokes, I liked when he said Cate Blanchett also played the dog or wolf or whatever that animal was in the clip.



Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: serious crayons on February 25, 2008, 05:19:42 pm
Darn I missed the Busey/Seacrest incident!

Here you go, oilgun!

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/alltherage/2008/02/ryan-seacrest-v.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/alltherage/2008/02/ryan-seacrest-v.html)

Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 05:21:00 pm
Two questions:

1.  Why was Miley Cyrus a presenter?  If they needed a youthful presenter, why not the girl from Atonement?



Along those same lines, why was Jessica Alba the host for the Technical Awards held on February 9th. What does she have to do with technical awards? Is she even a member of the Academy? I don't think so. And I don't think Miley is, either.

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: Kelda on February 25, 2008, 05:21:20 pm
Two questions:

1.  Why was Miley Cyrus a presenter?  If they needed a youthful presenter, why not the girl from Atonement?

2.  What happened to Cameron Diaz's face?  She was all cheekbones.  (Maybe she's lost a ton of weight.)

Meow.  :)

As for Jon Stewart jokes, I liked when he said Cate Blanchett also played the dog or wolf or whatever that animal was in the clip.





just saw that on youtube while trying to find a heath clip...


[youtube=425,350]http://youtube.com/watch?v=krDoAUJDcKU[/youtube]
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: southendmd on February 25, 2008, 05:22:24 pm
1. Who is Miley Cyrus?

2. Why couldn't Cameron Diaz learn to say "cinematography"?

3. Ryan Seacrest is beyond annoying.

4. Leave my Kristen Chenoweth alone, if you know what's good for you! >:( :)

***

At least the presenters' patter was mercifully brief.  They should say good evening, and "the nominees are..." IMO  (I'm thinking of the painful "teapot" incident with Jake and Heath.)
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 05:25:12 pm
Here you go, oilgun!

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/alltherage/2008/02/ryan-seacrest-v.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/alltherage/2008/02/ryan-seacrest-v.html)



Man, that was bizarre.

Wasn't Gary Busey in a horrible motorcycle accident quite a few years ago? Maybe he has some late effect residual brain damage or something.

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 05:28:15 pm
1. Who is Miley Cyrus?


Billy Ray Cyrus's daughter, the one who plays Hannah Montana. She just legally changed her name to Miley. It was something else (can't remember what) but her family has always called her Miley, so....

And who is Hannah Montana? The one that inspires mothers to lie and say their husbands were killed in Iraq so they can get free Hannah Montana tickets for their 6 year old daughters to attend the show...

And people wonder why the US is going down the drain....LOL

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 05:29:48 pm

4. Leave my Kristen Chenoweth alone, if you know what's good for you! >:( :)


I like Kristen and think she has a beautiful voice (I am probably one of three people in the world who own the DVD of The Music Man with her and Matthew Broderick) but I have to say, she really left me flat with that performance last night.

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: oilgun on February 25, 2008, 05:40:43 pm
I like Kristen and think she has a beautiful voice (I am probably one of three people in the world who own the DVD of The Music Man with her and Matthew Broderick) but I have to say, she really left me flat with that performance last night.

L

I was worried (hoping?) she'd fall off her platform shoes!   ;)  Are there so few eligible songs?  Most of the nominated ones were so painful to listen to1 
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: oilgun on February 25, 2008, 05:45:47 pm
Here you go, oilgun!

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/alltherage/2008/02/ryan-seacrest-v.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/alltherage/2008/02/ryan-seacrest-v.html)



Thanks!  That really was an awkward moment  :o  I don't care what anyone says but I kinda like Ryan Seacrest.  He wanted Ben Affleck to protect them from "that man" as Jennifer called Busey.  Hilarious!
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 05:48:04 pm
I was worried (hoping?) she'd fall off her platform shoes!   ;)  Are there so few eligible songs?  Most of the nominated ones were so painful to listen to1 

But at least the one that should have won did win! I think I will go order the Once DVD to add to my collection, in honor of the win!

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: southendmd on February 25, 2008, 06:16:30 pm
I was worried (hoping?) she'd fall off her platform shoes!   ;)  Are there so few eligible songs?  Most of the nominated ones were so painful to listen to1 

Well, she wouldn't have very far to fall; she's tiny.

I haven't even seen Enchanted, but I suspect the songs sound more stupid out of context.  At least Kristen's song was cute:  kind of white calypso.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: southendmd on February 25, 2008, 06:18:43 pm
The Academy really needs to change their rules about songs, also foreign films.  Too many good songs/films get excluded. 

Just imagine Emmylou Harris or Teddy Thompson singing up there two years ago.  So much better than that nasty Dolly Parton thing or the Pimps on Parade song.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: serious crayons on February 25, 2008, 06:21:48 pm
1. Who is Miley Cyrus?

I'd never heard of Miley Cyrus before December, when I heard about the mom lying for Hannah Montana tickets and discovered she's pretty much the most famous girl in the country.

Wasn't Gary Busey in a horrible motorcycle accident quite a few years ago? Maybe he has some late effect residual brain damage or something.

I think he does. He has a reputation for acting irrationally. So sad -- he was good as Buddy Holly!

why was Jessica Alba the host for the Technical Awards held on February 9th. What does she have to do with technical awards?

The always have a babe host the technical awards. I guess they figure (wrongly) that viewers at home will be less likely to leave the room at part. Though if they got an actual techie to host the techie awards, viewers would leave for sure, along with probably most of the people in the auditorium.

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At least the presenters' patter was mercifully brief.  They should say good evening, and "the nominees are..." IMO

Though the part where Jon Stewart called the Once singer back onstage to say her thank-you's after being cut off by the orchestra was, IMO, the most touching moment of the show. I don't know if it was Jon Stewart's doing or someone else's, but it was very thoughtful and something that, in a lot of years, wouldn't have been done.


Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: southendmd on February 25, 2008, 06:26:58 pm
Though the part where Jon Stewart called the Once singer back onstage to say her thank-you's after being cut off by the orchestra was, IMO, the most touching moment of the show. I don't know if it was Jon Stewart's doing or someone else's, but it was very thoughtful and something that, in a lot of years, wouldn't have been done.

So true, Twinkle Katherine.  Very classy.  That's what I mean:  if the presenters keep their part brief, there's more time for the winners to say something interesting.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: Fran on February 25, 2008, 06:30:28 pm
I haven't even seen Enchanted, but I suspect the songs sound more stupid out of context.  At least Kristen's song was cute:  kind of white calypso.

Paul, here's "Happy Working Song" in context.  Hope you like rodents.  LOL

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KObgs81QyR4[/youtube]
Time 3:37
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: serious crayons on February 25, 2008, 06:35:18 pm
So true, Twinkle Katherine. 

I can see I'm going to live to regret posting on here after drinking prosecco.  ::)

Here's another item of interest. Writers on Slate observed that No Country for Old Men producer Scott Rudin thanked his (male) partner, but there was no shot of the partner.

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(Kim Masters) We wondered how come they always show the teary wives but no quick reaction shot when Rudin thanked his honey. What's up with that, liberal Hollywood?

... (Dana Stevens) Viewers were so burned out by the time Scott Rudin finally gave his acceptance speech for best picture that you had to TiVo back to notice what Kim points out—that his shout-out to his life partner, John Barlow, was unaccompanied by a cutaway shot to Barlow's face. Defamer even notes that Rudin's mention of his "honey" was absent from the official press transcript and wonders whether the academy was guilty of "pinkwashing." It seems likelier that the transcriber, like me, was just too worn down by four hours of clip montages to get it all. But the producers' failure to allow Barlow his moment to kvell onscreen was less forgivable (if only because he may be the only person in Hollywood who likes Scott Rudin). When Melissa Etheridge won for best song last year, she gave her wife, Tammy Lynn Michaels, an on-camera kiss, but they're women, and attractive blondes to boot. I guess being publicly gay at the Oscars is still no country for old men. But maybe next year.

http://www.slate.com/id/2184888/entry/2185092/ (http://www.slate.com/id/2184888/entry/2185092/)

Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 06:35:49 pm

Though the part where Jon Stewart called the Once singer back onstage to say her thank-you's after being cut off by the orchestra was, IMO, the most touching moment of the show. I don't know if it was Jon Stewart's doing or someone else's, but it was very thoughtful and something that, in a lot of years, wouldn't have been done.


I am glad they did too because you could see it was a series of flub-ups--no one person's fault--that left her (what is her name? Ingreta?) looking confused and bewildered. I am glad she had a chance to come back and have her moment to say thank you.

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: southendmd on February 25, 2008, 06:37:55 pm
Paul, here's "Happy Working Song" in context.  Hope you like rodents.  LOL

Hey, it worked for Ratatouille!  It's a little like "Whistle While You Work", but with cockroaches instead of dwarves.

Thanks for that, Fran.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 06:39:49 pm
I can see I'm going to live to regret posting on here after drinking prosecco.  ::)

Here's another item of interest. Writers on Slate observed that No Country for Old Men producer Scott Rudin thanked his (male) partner, but there was no shot of the partner.


Thanks for posting that, Katherine. I noticed the lack of commentary today, but was pleased when I heard his thanks last night. Of course, the "without you honey, it would be just hardware" was said as he looked over his shoulder while being hustled off stage.

Lots of hustling going on last night....LOL

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: Fran on February 25, 2008, 06:52:46 pm
Was anyone bothered by Jon Stewart's comment -- I think -- in reference to the Once singers?  He made some comment about how much fun they were having backstage after their win, adding, "He said, 'Let's have our Oscars kiss,' and she said, 'But they're men.'"

(Or maybe it was "guys" instead of "men.")

Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 06:54:13 pm
I found this little tidbit on dlisted:

Last night, during the Oscars "In Memoriam" section, I noticed that Brad Renfro was missing from the montage. You guys noticed it too, because I got the e-mails. I figured that maybe he wasn't a member of the Academy or something? They included 98 movie actors, directors, executives, agents, designers, but didn't include Brad.

The Academy issued this statement to TMZ,"It is simply not possible to include everyone in that segment." It would have taken one second. Literally. They should have just said they only include Academy members in the segment.

A friend of mine also noticed they skipped Roy Scheider, but that's because Roy died after January 31st.

And where was Sam the Butcher?! Damn the Academy!
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 06:57:34 pm
I just heard this on the news: viewership of the Oscars was down 14% from last year and has beaten out 2003 as the least-watched Oscars, ever.

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 07:00:16 pm
Was anyone bothered by Jon Stewart's comment -- I think -- in reference to the Once singers.  He made some comment about how much fun they were having backstage after their win, adding, "He said, 'Let's have our Oscars kiss,' and she said, 'But they're men.'"

(Or maybe it was "guys" instead of "men.")



It was a weird, awkward joke that didn't come out right. Jon made a comment that the woman (Irvlova?) wanted to have the two Oscar statues kiss and the man (Glenn?) said, "But they're both men" and then someone said (not sure who), "Oh, that doesn't matter, this is Hollywood." Or something like that.

Overall, it just fell flat imho.

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 07:26:04 pm
And to keep this all in perspective, let's not forget...the Razzies!

Lohan Thriller Named Worst at Razzies


By DAVID GERMAIN – 1 day ago

SANTA MONICA, Calif. (AP) — A year after his Academy Awards dream went up in smoke, Eddie Murphy has not just one consolation prize, but three: Razzie Awards as worst actor, supporting actor and supporting actress for the comedy "Norbit."

The fourth acting "dis-honor" announced at Saturday's Golden Raspberry Awards went to Lindsay Lohan, who actually was voted two worst-actress trophies for the thriller "I Know Who Killed Me," the worst-picture winner in which she played dual roles.

"I Know Who Killed Me" set a new Razzies record with eight awards, including worst screen couple for Lohan in her double role.

Topping the previous record of seven Razzies for both "Showgirls" and "Battlefield Earth," "I Know Who Killed Me" also won for worst director (Chris Sivertson), screenplay (Jeff Hammond), horror movie, and remake or rip-off (Razzies organizers viewed it as a cross between torture flicks such as "Saw" and a twisted update of "The Patty Duke Show").

With his latest exercise in multiple roles, Murphy was the first person ever to win three acting Razzies in one year. He won as worst actor for the geeky title role, supporting actress as his tubby, shrewish wife and supporting actor as a stereotyped Asian man.

Some awards watchers say "Norbit" cost Murphy an Oscar, landing in theaters shortly before last year's ceremony and potentially displeasing enough academy voters that the balloting went against him for "Dreamgirls," for which he had been the supporting-actor favorite. Murphy lost at the Oscars to Alan Arkin for "Little Miss Sunshine."

"Part of why the Razzies exist is to make fun of the academy, which takes itself too seriously," said Razzies founder John Wilson. "If you had tried to make something certain to offend the average 90-year-old academy voter, I don't think you could have done a better job than the foul-mouthed, physically ugly, emotionally ugly movie he unleashed on the world."

The Razzies ceremony at a magic shop in Santa Monica came a day before Sunday's Oscars, where "Norbit" ironically is up for the best-makeup prize against "La Vie En Rose" and "Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End."

Between them, "Norbit" and "I Know Who Killed Me" won all but one of the Razzies.

"We've never had two films so totally dominate, at least not since the heyday of Sylvester Stallone," Wilson said.

The remaining prize still had a Murphy connection, with worst prequel or sequel going to Cuba Gooding Jr.'s "Daddy Day Camp," a follow-up to Murphy's "Daddy Day Care."

Lohan was nominated twice as worst actress, and the Razzie vote wound up in a tie between her separate roles as a small-town girl abducted by a psychopath and an alter ego, a stripper who's missing body parts.

"It's appropriate that it's a tie, because at the end of the movie, you don't know if it was one person or two people, or are they twins, or are we as mentally ill as the screenwriter and director?" Wilson said.

Looking ahead to next year's Razzies, Wilson said he already sees some favorites, including Paris Hilton's recent bomb "The Hottie and the Nottie."

Stallone, the all-time Razzies champ with 30 nominations and 10 wins, dodged the ceremony a year ago after "Rocky Balboa" turned out far better than people expected. The same is not likely to hold true for Stallone's latest critically drubbed sequel, Wilson said.

"Without even having to think," he said, "I expect Sylvester Stallone to be back with 'Rambo.'"

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ixgKEnlnx6pKqr7kz3v3xKB3sJOgD8V0FCIG0
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: BelAir on February 25, 2008, 08:31:32 pm
my 2 day-after comments (okay, maybe 3):

1) The presenters seemed quite random to me, some haven't "done" anything in Hollywood in quite some time...  at least anything of acclaim, I guess is what I mean.

2) The montages were ridiculous by the end... excessive and unnecessary.

3) Should it really be a goal of the Oscars to have x number of viewers?  What the heck are the Oscars supposed to represent anyway?

 ::)

(maybe since I watched them from start to finish I should have answers, but I don't...)
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: delalluvia on February 25, 2008, 08:34:03 pm
I like Jon Stewart.  Yes, not everything went off well, but hey, the show was a last minute thing.

i think that's another reason why ratings were down, lots of my friends didn't know the awards were on until they were about to miss them.

Kidman always looks great, I don't know how she does it.

I think having a babe give out the Technical Awards is a by request by the members, isn't it?  They ask for a particular presenter?

No excuse other than pure pandering to the pre-teen crowd to have Miley Cyrus anywhere near that auditorium.  She's not talented and not likely to win any awards anytime soon.

A friend saw "Enchanted"  she thought it the worst movie she'd seen this year.  The song was so saccharine and excruciating to listen to the singer warble it, that I couldn't believe it was nominated.

Am I the only one who got all hot and bent out of shape by the movie clip of Viggo Mortesen putting the cigarette out on his tongue?

EDITED TO ADD:  Yes, you get enough women in one place, doing formal dress, you're going to have a lot stick to the classics and they all end up looking like they went to the same black silk sale. 

I quit wearing black velvet ever, when I went to a Xmas party once and saw every woman there in the same fabric.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: Fran on February 25, 2008, 09:10:43 pm
A friend saw "Enchanted"  she thought it the worst movie she'd seen this year.  The song was so saccharine and excruciating to listen to the singer warble it, that I couldn't believe it was nominated.

Del, three "Enchanted" songs were nominated.  Mercifully, they all cancelled each other out.  :)

Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: delalluvia on February 25, 2008, 09:26:55 pm
Del, three "Enchanted" songs were nominated.
 

Gah.  No wonder the songs I heard were horrible.

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Mercifully, they all cancelled each other out.  :)

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: smellykellyjay on February 25, 2008, 09:40:47 pm
Billy Ray Cyrus's daughter, the one who plays Hannah Montana. She just legally changed her name to Miley. It was something else (can't remember what) but her family has always called her Miley, so....

Her Christian name is Destiny Hope Cyrus.  I didn't know that.  I had to look it up. 

She was probably there because a few weeks ago (Super Bowl weekend), her movie, "Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus: Best of Both Worlds Concert Tour" was the #1 movie in the US.  It set records or something, according to the IMDb. . . 

5 February 2008 (StudioBriefing)
. . . Playing on just 683 3-D screens, it averaged $45,561 per theater -- a record for any wide-release film and far surpassing the previous record of $35,540 set by Spider-Man 3. . .


Having her there was something of a stretch, but the Academy has always done stuff like that.  When "Hand That Rocks the Cradle" was big, Rebecca De Mornay presented.  When "Crocodile Dundee" was big, Paul Hogan was a cohost. 
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 25, 2008, 10:08:47 pm
Leslie this is just cruel.  I assumed that because Brad Renfro died in '08 that he'd be included in next year's In Memoriam.  (I know that Heath died this year, too, but I was thinking that they included him this year because he was so well known, and his death was all over the media, and not to include him this year would have looked like a snub.)  But if they intentionally left Brad off the list that's really mean.

And Sam the Butcher may not have been in the game in recent years, but he did entertain a lot of people in his day.

I didn't write it, I got it off dlisted....but I agree. Where was Brad Renfro? Sam the Butcher? I guess they were not Academy members but they can make that clear who they are honoring....

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: Shasta542 on February 25, 2008, 10:13:33 pm
The D.J. on my morning drive said that Miley Ray Cyrus makes one million dollars a week. I guess that's on average. Nice salary.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: smellykellyjay on February 26, 2008, 12:14:44 am
The rest of the winners -except for Tilda Swinton- (I was not expecting her to win anything) wasn't a surprise to me.

I was surprised by Tilda's win too.  But I get her and Cate Blanchett mixed up a lot of the times, so, to me, it's like they both won! 
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: Kd5000 on February 26, 2008, 12:39:10 am
Oh I think that was the watercooler talk this morning. Who is Tilda Swinton?  Her look is so avante-garde.  Ppl asked me and I just told them she was the witch in Narnia.

I saw this on HuffingtonPost.com about Ben Refreno...

Why Brad Renfro Was Cut From Oscar Tribute Montage
Monday February 25, 2008


Lester Cohen/WireImage.com
Why was late actor Brad Renfro cut from the video tribute at Sunday’s Oscars?

“It was really an editing decision because we can’t fit everyone in,” a rep for the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences tells Usmagazine.com. “There was no specific reason.”
The montage featured footage of late actors, including Heath Ledger, who passed away a week after Renfro.

Renfro died of a heroin overdose in his L.A. home January 15.

The actor made his big film debut, opposite Susan Sarandon, in 1994’s The Client. His film credits include Sleepers, Apt Pupil and the acclaimed independent film Ghost World.

Tell Us: Should Brad Renfro have been included in the tribute?

Direct Link: http://www.usmagazine.com/Why_Brad_Renfro_Was_Cut_From_Oscar_Tribute
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: smellykellyjay on February 26, 2008, 12:54:03 am
Re:  Jennifer Hudson  She'll be hard pressed for parts for the rest of her career because as someone said to me (not too kindly, but it is true)...she's black and she's fat. And those roles are not a dime a dozen, unfortunately.

I agree.  It ain't easy out there for black actresses in general.  I had the TV on PBS the other night and caught the tail end of a ballroom dancing competition as I was piddling around.  The hostess's voice and delivery caught my ear.  She was so infomercial, for lack of a better word.  Turns out it was Jasmine Guy. 

Jennifer Hudson'll have to work hard and be lucky to find a part as good as what she had in "Dreamgirls."  But I think she can have a good career.  Looks like she's doing alright.  According to the IMBd, she's got four movies in the can: 

The Family That Preys Together (2008) (pre-production) (A Tyler Perry film)
The Secret Life of Bees (2009) (post-production) .... Rosalene Daise (With Dakota Fanning, Queen Latifah, and Alicia Keys)
Sex and the City: The Movie (2008) (post-production) .... Carrie's Assistant (She'll have to really bring it to compete with the four leads, but I know I'll be going to see this one.)
Winged Creatures (2008) (post-production) .... Kathy Archenault (Again, with Dakota Fanning. . . do they have the same agent or something? . . . Kate Beckinsale, Forest Whitaker, Jackie Earle Haley, and Guy Pearce)

Not too shabby.  At least she ain't playing Willona or doing a "Soul Plane" sequel. 
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: smellykellyjay on February 26, 2008, 12:56:28 am
The Walking Tall dude?  Really??

Bo Svenson was there!?!?  Or was it Joe Don Baker?  Did he bring his bat?  He coulda used it on Gary Busey. 
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: smellykellyjay on February 26, 2008, 01:02:32 am
Which Ennis pic/scene was it?  I'm not watching the Oscars tonight, but I'm curious about this part of course.

Check it out for yourself here. . . 

[youtube=425,350]http://youtube.com/watch?v=m3YN-MmPTu8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: smellykellyjay on February 26, 2008, 01:14:45 am
3. Ryan Seacrest is beyond annoying.

No argument there.  But the WORST is Billy Bush.  Insipid.  He's pretty but not so pretty that I can stand him for any length of time. 

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4. Leave my Kristen Chenoweth alone, if you know what's good for you! >:( :)

She's too much.  One of my sisters ADORES her.  I'm sorry I didn't get to see her in "Wicked."  I've got her version of "Popular," and it's incredible.  There's nothing that can stop you from becoming popu-ler. LAR!  I read an article about her a couple of years back, and she admitted to Bedazzling everything.  Bless her heart! 

Have you seen her do "Hopelessly Devoted to You" on "Pushing Daisies"? 
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: smellykellyjay on February 26, 2008, 01:25:26 am
I quit wearing black velvet ever, when I went to a Xmas party once and saw every woman there in the same fabric.

I've always wanted a black velvet jacket to wear with a white turtleneck.  And I want an angora sweater too (Hand to God.). 

Otherwise, black velvet is best used as a canvas for paintings.  I gave my dad a portrait of John Wayne on black velvet (The Duke won an Oscar for "True Grit," and that cute little Glen Campbell was in it when he was cute. . . just to keep sorta, kinda on topic.).  I got it at a roadside sale.  I had to choose between that one and one of a little boy sitting on the toilet (I'm not kidding.).  Dad hung it up in his workshop.  I think it's hiding a hole in the wall.  And, swear to God, I once saw a Kenny Rogers black velvet painting.  I'm holding out for a Dogs Playing Poker on black velvet, but them is hard to come by. 
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: smellykellyjay on February 26, 2008, 01:34:41 am
I like Kristen and think she has a beautiful voice (I am probably one of three people in the world who own the DVD of The Music Man with her and Matthew Broderick). . . 

Ooh, yeah.  She does a good "Goodnight, My Someone."  I love that song.  One time, when my sister who loves Kristen came to visit me, I took her to tea at the Plaza.  A strolling violinist came to our table and asked if we had a request.  Both of us went braindead.  The only song I could come up with was "Bugaboo" by Destiny's Child.  But then I came up with "Goodnight, My Someone."  The violinist began playing "76 Trombones," and I was, like, that's not what I asked for. . . you know, on the inside.  Then he segued into "Goodnight, My Someone," and I was, like, well it's about time!  And I was happy.  It was lovely.  Later I discovered that those two are basically the same song.  I was so embarrassed behind that!  And the Plaza had the best scones!  But I didn't see Eloise. 
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: smellykellyjay on February 26, 2008, 01:51:57 am
The Academy really needs to change their rules about songs, also foreign films.  Too many good songs/films get excluded. 

I'm being contrary on this thread, but I can understand their rules about songs (Foreign films is a horse of another color.).  They're trying to prevent songs that were barely featured in a film from being nominated.  I mean, what if the song that was playing when Alma, Jr. drove up in Kurt's car at the end of BbM got nominated?  That's what they're working to prevent.  I think the popularity of pre-exisiting songs in movies (ala "The Big Chill" or, say, a stage musical turned film like "Chicago" where the songs aren't original) plays a part in the scarcity and lack of quality in the nominated songs too. 

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Just imagine Emmylou Harris or Teddy Thompson singing up there two years ago.

That's what I was really looking forward to.  "Love That Will Never Grow Old" won a Golden Globe, but that's kinda like winning Most Popular, while an Oscar is more like getting a scholarship.  I guess we could consider Gustavo Santaolalla's Oscar for Best Original Score to be a nod for the songs in BbM as well, since he wrote a lot of 'em. 

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So much better than that nasty Dolly Parton thing or the Pimps on Parade song.

Make a deal with you.  I won't diss Kristin Chenoweth if you won't diss Dolly.  And I love "It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp."  It's so catchy, the CDC in Atlanta has a file on it.  You just know some people lost money in their Oscar pool the year that one won. 
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: smellykellyjay on February 26, 2008, 02:58:32 am
I think Suzanne Pleshette received the loudest applause from the attendees.

I just really like her.  Jack Valenti, Michaelangelo Antonioni, Deborah Kerr, Ingmar Bergman got big ovations as well. 

I just got home and turned it on like 5 minutes before the In Memorium thing. I agree, Heath should have had two scenes, but I liked how he was last (save the best for last, you know) and that there was that lovely swell in the music when it cut to him.

I think the music drowned out the ovation he got from the audience though. 

And yes, the picture of Heath was excellent, but he should have gotten two scenes from two movies like lots of the others did...

I'm surprised they didn't have Renfro.

It was chronological, it was fitting and poignant to have Heath last - I note that he was the youngest of this year's group.  The simplicity of the scene was lovely and will leave a lasting bittersweet memory.

I'm with Del here.  I liked what they did for him.  It was simple and classy.  I figure some people got two scenes to remind folks of who they were. 

And I also was expecting to see Brad Renfro.  Hilary Swank said, “Sadly, a few were taken from us much too soon with their best yet to come.”  Please point out where I may be wrong, but, with the exception of Heath, it looked to me like everybody in the segment was up there in years and at least semi-retired.  I guess a case could be made for anybody being taken too soon, but you get what I'm going for, right? 

Bob Clark didn't die of anything old-age related, but he was 68.  Shoot, Kitty Carlisle was 97, and Jane “Angela Channing” Wyman was 90.  Just saying that Heath seemed to be the few Hilary spoke of. 

A couple of random thoughts on the segment here: 

I thought Peter Zinner was Peter Boyle. 

Burt Lancaster was HOT!  (He was shown with Deborah Kerr in the famous “From Here to Eternity” beach scene.)  Anybody seen him in "The Swimmer"?  It's a good movie, and not just because he spent most of the movie in tight little swim trunks.  He was in his mid 50s when he made that one, and he was fine.  I hope I look as good as he did when I'm in my 50s.  Shoot, I ain't never looked that good. 
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on February 26, 2008, 03:13:59 am



              Burt Lancaster was a former athlete.  He was a trapeze artist.  He performed in the circus. 
he made "The Greatest Show on Earth"  as a trapeze artist and did his own work.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: smellykellyjay on February 26, 2008, 03:31:38 am
Burt Lancaster was a former athlete.  He was a trapeze artist.  He performed in the circus. 
he made "The Greatest Show on Earth"  as a trapeze artist and did his own work.

Ooh, thanks!  With this information, you're making me think really naughty thoughts.  I think I'm gonna have to sign off now and go take care of something. 
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: delalluvia on February 26, 2008, 09:04:53 am
I agree.  It ain't easy out there for black actresses in general.  I had the TV on PBS the other night and caught the tail end of a ballroom dancing competition as I was piddling around.  The hostess's voice and delivery caught my ear.  She was so infomercial, for lack of a better word.  Turns out it was Jasmine Guy. 

Jennifer Hudson'll have to work hard and be lucky to find a part as good as what she had in "Dreamgirls."  But I think she can have a good career.  Looks like she's doing alright.  According to the IMBd, she's got four movies in the can: 

The Family That Preys Together (2008) (pre-production) (A Tyler Perry film)
The Secret Life of Bees (2009) (post-production) .... Rosalene Daise (With Dakota Fanning, Queen Latifah, and Alicia Keys)
Sex and the City: The Movie (2008) (post-production) .... Carrie's Assistant (She'll have to really bring it to compete with the four leads, but I know I'll be going to see this one.)
Winged Creatures (2008) (post-production) .... Kathy Archenault (Again, with Dakota Fanning. . . do they have the same agent or something? . . . Kate Beckinsale, Forest Whitaker, Jackie Earle Haley, and Guy Pearce)

Not too shabby.  At least she ain't playing Willona or doing a "Soul Plane" sequel. 

Not yet, anyway.  Roles are extremely limited for women such as herself.  Queen Latifah has almost all those roles available sewn up.

It is a good lineup, but if you put Janeane Garofalo's filmography up there, it will also look like she works a lot, but if you ask her fans, she doesn't work hardly enough.

I really hate hearing the fashion designers talk about Jennifer, though.  Some are supportive of her, no matter what, but others try really hard to say - in a nice way - she should be wearing a mu-mu because she's fat.  Peter what's his name on last night's Fashion Police said, in what I guess he thought was a compliment, "That's as good as she's going to get."  ::)

As for black velvet, women have a little more latitude in fashion wear.  ;)
 
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: j.U.d.E. on February 26, 2008, 11:39:04 am
On WIKIPEDIA - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80th_Academy_Awards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80th_Academy_Awards)

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In Memoriam

The annual "In Memoriam" tribute was presented by Oscar-winning actress Hilary Swank. The list included those who died between February 1, 2007 and January 31, 2008.

The tribute included Roscoe Lee Brown, Barry Nelson, Kitty Carlisle Hart, Betty Hutton, Calvin Lockhart, Jane Wyman, screenwriter Melville Shavelson, director Curtis Harrington, Jack Valenti, choreographer Michael Kidd, director Michelangelo Antonioni, director Delbert Mann, make-up artist Monty Westmore, soundman Peter T. Hanford, stuntman Bud Ekins, screenwriter Bernard Gordon, Dabbs Greer, Jean-Claude Brialy, art director Harold Michelson, Laraine Day, Jean-Pierre Cassel, Lois Maxwell, cinematographer Laszlo Kovacs, director Robert Clark, art director George Jenkins, Johnny Grant, studio executive Frank E. Rosenfelt, producer Martin Manulis, costume designer Donfeld, director Sembene Ousmane, agent Freddy Fields, agent Robert Lantz, executive Ray Kurtzman, Miyoshi Umeki, Suzanne Pleshette, Deborah Kerr, visual effects artist Peter Ellenshaw, film editor Peter Zinner, cinematographer Freddie Francis, director Ingmar Bergman, composer and songwriter Ray Evans, make-up artist William Tuttle, and actor Heath Ledger.

Brad Renfro was not among those mourned, despite dying of a drug-related incident a week before Heath Ledger's death. Ulrich Mühe, the star of "The Lives of Others" wasn't mentioned, even though he died in 2007.

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Basta*ds!! I'm happy to see that they included Jean-Claude Brialy though!  :-\

j. U. d. E.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: j.U.d.E. on February 26, 2008, 11:48:55 am
On WIKIPEDIA - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80th_Academy_Awards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80th_Academy_Awards)

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Broadcasters

Some of the broadcasters showing the event live:

Australia - Nine Network (with a 12 hour delay)
Austria - ORF1
Argentina - TNT
Brazil - Rede Globo
Canada - CTV
Chile - Red Televisión
China - CCTV-6
Colombia - RCN TV
Croatia - HRT1
Czech Republic - HBO
Denmark - TV 2 Film
Finland - Nelonen
France - Canal+
Germany - Pro 7
Greece - Filmnet
Hong Kong - TVB Pearl
India - STAR Movies
Ireland - RTE
Italy - Sky Italia
Japan - WOWOW
Malaysia - ntv7, Star Movies
Middle East - Dubai One
Mexico - Channel 7 TV Azteca & TNT
The Netherlands - Film 1
New Zealand - SKY Movies & SKY Movies 2
Panama - RPC Channel 4
Peru - Frecuencia Latina
Philippines - live on ABS-CBN, rebroadcasted for primetime on Studio 23 (a UHF station owned by ABS-CBN), Velvet Channel 53
Poland - Canal+
Portugal - TVI
Puerto Rico - WAPA Channel 4
Russia - Channel One
Serbia - RTS 1
Singapore - MediaCorp TV Channel 5
Slovenia - Kanal A
South Africa - Dstv
South Korea - OCN
Spain - Canal+
Sweden - Kanal 9
Taiwan - STAR Movies
Trinidad and Tobago - CCN TV6
Turkey - NTV
United Kingdom - Sky Movies
Uruguay - Canal 4 Montecarlo Televisión
USA - ABC
Venezuela - Venevisión  

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They are forgetting Belgium! I know, 'cause it was in the middle of the night when I was watching (at least the beginning - the rest I taped) and I was checking www.IMDb.com (http://www.IMDb.com) updating the winners one at the time, after the winner was announced! It was broadcasted on PRIME (digital).

Oh well.. It's a small insignificant country.. BUT, funnily enough Belgium is mentioned in the weirdest of moments. Such as when Steve Carrell and Anne Hathaway (smiled a lot... too much IMHO!) presented the award of Best Animated Feature . They were funny though with Steve being terrified that his 'mistake' was even seen in Belgium...

Why Belgium?  :D

For years now I wanted to start a list about Belgium being mentioned (on TV, cinema, etc.) for no reason, really.. Never started the list though..

j. U. d. E.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: southendmd on February 26, 2008, 01:30:29 pm


For years now I wanted to start a list about Belgium being mentioned (on TV, cinema, etc.) for no reason, really.. Never started the list though..

j. U. d. E.

I'll start:  In 1969, Suzanne Pleshette starred in If It's Tuesday, This Must Be Belgium.

(http://www.britposters.com/images/if%20its%20tuesday%20this%20must%20be%20belgium%20320x240.jpg)
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: southendmd on February 26, 2008, 01:38:34 pm
She's too much.  One of my sisters ADORES her.  I'm sorry I didn't get to see her in "Wicked."  I've got her version of "Popular," and it's incredible.  There's nothing that can stop you from becoming popu-ler. LAR!  I read an article about her a couple of years back, and she admitted to Bedazzling everything.  Bless her heart! 

Have you seen her do "Hopelessly Devoted to You" on "Pushing Daisies"? 

No, but she blows away  Carnegie Hall when she did this little number, "Glitter and Be Gay" from "Candide". (I think this video is from Lincoln Center.)

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feh-qea54GE[/youtube]
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: belbbmfan on February 26, 2008, 01:45:00 pm
I'll start:  In 1969, Suzanne Pleshette starred in If It's Tuesday, This Must Be Belgium.

(http://www.britposters.com/images/if%20its%20tuesday%20this%20must%20be%20belgium%20320x240.jpg)

 :laugh:

Very appropriate!
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 26, 2008, 02:46:49 pm
I never associated Belgium with bikini clad women before.   :P  Are there cute young guys running around without much on also?

Yes, I think that is in the part of the movie when it is Wednesday, and they are in Rome.

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: belbbmfan on February 26, 2008, 03:34:54 pm
I never associated Belgium with bikini clad women before.   :P  Are there cute young guys running around without much on also?

Sure, here are a couple of nice footballers for you.  ;)

http://www.humo.be/cps/rde/xchg/humo/hs.xsl/DezeWeek_index_Gouden-Stud-Patrick-Nijs-Johan-Gerets-Stijn-Vreven-Paul-Kpaka.html (http://www.humo.be/cps/rde/xchg/humo/hs.xsl/DezeWeek_index_Gouden-Stud-Patrick-Nijs-Johan-Gerets-Stijn-Vreven-Paul-Kpaka.html)
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 26, 2008, 03:39:26 pm
Sure, here are a couple of nice footballers for you.  ;)

http://www.humo.be/cps/rde/xchg/humo/hs.xsl/DezeWeek_index_Gouden-Stud-Patrick-Nijs-Johan-Gerets-Stijn-Vreven-Paul-Kpaka.html (http://www.humo.be/cps/rde/xchg/humo/hs.xsl/DezeWeek_index_Gouden-Stud-Patrick-Nijs-Johan-Gerets-Stijn-Vreven-Paul-Kpaka.html)

I'll take Johan. You guys can fight over the others...LOL
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: belbbmfan on February 26, 2008, 03:50:06 pm
I'll take Johan. You guys can fight over the others...LOL

 :laugh:

You picked the right one Leslie. He was voted 'stud of the year'  :P

Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 26, 2008, 03:53:17 pm
Wow!  Those guys are hot.   :D  Thanks.

Makes you want to go to Belgium, doesn't it, Gary? LOL

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 26, 2008, 03:53:45 pm
:laugh:

You picked the right one Leslie. He was voted 'stud of the year'  :P



And you thought I couldn't read Dutch...Zo! Dat is prima!

L
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: belbbmfan on February 26, 2008, 03:59:08 pm
And you thought I couldn't read Dutch...Zo! Dat is prima!

L


 :laugh:

You are a woman of many talents! Have fun with Johan. It's said that all the team players are kinda jealous when he shows up in the shower room... :P
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: oilgun on February 26, 2008, 04:06:42 pm

 :laugh:

You are a woman of many talents! Have fun with Johan. It's said that all the team players are kinda jealous when he shows up in the shower room... :P


Johan is very lekker!  ;D
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: belbbmfan on February 26, 2008, 04:33:23 pm
:laugh:  To be truthful, I've never thought of Belgium as a sexy country  before.

LOL, me neither!

Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: belbbmfan on February 26, 2008, 04:34:30 pm
Johan is very lekker!  ;D


See? When you put you're mind to it, dutch isn't all that difficult.  ;D
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: MaineWriter on February 26, 2008, 05:17:31 pm

See? When you put you're mind to it, dutch isn't all that difficult.  ;D

Right! Give me some fazant and dag soep!
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: smellykellyjay on February 28, 2008, 03:07:40 am
Burt Lancaster was a former athlete.  He was a trapeze artist.  He performed in the circus. 
he made "The Greatest Show on Earth"  as a trapeze artist and did his own work.


Girl, look at this recent article. . . http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/film-and-tv/features/burt-lancaster-the-last-real-action-hero-786670.html. 

I tell you, you and me, we have our fingers on the pulse of the world. . . and the world is saying, "Ew, don't touch me!" 
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: smellykellyjay on February 29, 2008, 05:21:09 am
Here's what I think is a great commentary/suggestion for the Academy: 

http://www.laweekly.com/film+tv/surf-report/oscar-interruptus/18418/
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: oilgun on February 29, 2008, 08:20:02 am
Here's what I think is a great commentary/suggestion for the Academy: 

http://www.laweekly.com/film+tv/surf-report/oscar-interruptus/18418/

 :laugh:  After years of everyone complaining about the interminable acceptance speeches, with their shopping lists of names, they finally try to do something about it and now we want them back?  Seriously? 

I agree that those montages were not needed but I'm glad the speeches are discouraged because most of them consist of just that, a bunch of names.  I think they should show more clips of the nominated films, that's what the evening is about.
Title: Re: Oscar Chat 2008?
Post by: serious crayons on February 29, 2008, 11:37:45 am
:laugh:  After years of everyone complaining about the interminable acceptance speeches, with their shopping lists of names, they finally try to do something about it and now we want them back?  Seriously? 

I agree that those montages were not needed but I'm glad the speeches are discouraged because most of them consist of just that, a bunch of names.  I think they should show more clips of the nominated films, that's what the evening is about.

They SHOULD show more clips of the nominated films. Did they even do that at all this year? I forgot. I always liked seeing clips of the films AND of the major acting-award nominees.

Sometimes the acceptance speeches are boring; sometimes they're interesting or even touching. But cutting people off just looks rude. They should let them finish just out of common human decency. Bringing back that woman to give her a chance to make her speech was, in my view, the highlight of this year's ceremony -- even though I didn't actually listen to what she then said. For most winners -- including that woman -- this is one of the biggest moments of their lives, and it shouldn't be spoiled.

If they're going to cut anything, it should definitely be those deadly dull, stilted, dorky, overproduced musical numbers, most of which bear no resemblance to their original film contexts. Those are when I schedule my trips to the kitchen for more popcorn or prosecco.