Barb :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Next time he visits any one of you, can you please send him to my house? I'll PM you the address. I miss him so much, I, I, I just miss him so much.
I hope no one shoots me for this, but here goes anyway. I honestly think, that all these dreams of Heath are just that, dreams. Most of you who have said that Heath appeared to you have always been in bed when this happens and it,s always at night right? So presumably you arn,t sitting up in bed with a cup of coffee reading a book, your asleep. I find it very hard to beleive that all of a sudden Heath Ledger just appears to random people, some of whom he doesn,t even know for a chat. Why does this always happen at night? Why not during the day when your doing the washing up or the shopping? Sorry but I,m very cynical about all this, and I simply think that your all having dreams about him, very vivid ones obviously but dreams nevertheless. Thats just my opinion and I honestly mean no offence to anyone so please don,t shoot me for it. :)
BTW Barb I,m sorry to hear about your father. Thats very sad, but at least his final days on this earth will be peacful and pain free, well I certainly hope so anyway. :-*
At one point, when I was working on my fourth graduate degree, the professor drew a circle on the chalkboard. He divided it into quarters and then divided the first quarter in half (eighths). He pointed to the first eighth slice and said, "This is what you know." Then he pointed to the next eighth slice and said, "This is what you know you don't know." Then he pointed to the rest of the pie (three-quarters) and said, "This is what you don't know you don't know." Realizing this changed my life.
And I have spent alot of time since then learning the things I didn't know I didn't know.
L
I am not going to shoot you Souxi, but maybe you should turn down your cynicism meter just a bit. There are things in the world we don't understand or know and when we open ourselves to the experience, we then learn things we didn't know.
At one point, when I was working on my fourth graduate degree, the professor drew a circle on the chalkboard. He divided it into quarters and then divided the first quarter in half (eighths). He pointed to the first eighth slice and said, "This is what you know." Then he pointed to the next eighth slice and said, "This is what you know you don't know." Then he pointed to the rest of the pie (three-quarters) and said, "This is what you don't know you don't know." Realizing this changed my life.
And I have spent alot of time since then learning the things I didn't know I didn't know.
L
As Shakespeare wrote" there are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in
your philosophy" - a line from Hamlet that I never forgot.....................
OK, so I'm here to report on a really unusual Heath-related dream that I had last night. It's unusual in lots of ways... and one of which is that I very rarely remember my dreams at all. But, this one was very vivid and very cool.
In the dream I was walking through a big gallery filled with lots of contemporary art of all sorts of different styles, sizes and colors. And all the pieces were listed on the gallery wall as being by a wide variety of different artists. But, as I walked through the room and looked at each work, I kept having epiphanies that each work had been mis-attributed by whoever hung the art on the walls. As I walked along, I disovered that each of the (very different looking) works of art were in fact made by Heath Ledger. So, in the process of this I felt like I was discovering that Heath was secretly a really talented painter and got all excited about the idea of collecting his art.
Anyway, that was the gist of it. There was more to it than that, but that's the basic outline. Do any Heathens out there know if Heath ever made any attempts at studio art?
Anyway, that was the gist of it. There was more to it than that, but that's the basic outline. Do any Heathens out there know if Heath ever made any attempts at studio art?I can't remember where I have read it but I swear some time back to have read something about him saying something along the line of "If my career isn't successful I can always paint".
Needless to say, I woke up very happy. 8)
I can't remember where I have read it but I swear some time back to have read something about him saying something along the line of "If my career isn't successful I can always paint".
That's it Fran! that's what I read! Thank you for finding it.
I found this at mtv.com (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1580272/story.jhtml):
Ledger also enjoyed painting.
"I love what I do, but if it all came crashing down, it wouldn't be the end of the world," he told The Sunday Times in 2000. "I'd just sit on my arse and paint."
That's it Fran! that's what I read! Thank you for finding it.
My Dad is doing much better lately - he may even recover, to the furthest extent he can, from this last round of chemo after all. Not so strangely enough, Heath has not appeared in my dreams in weeks.,
Jake has, though. But that's a whole other thing.
He won't let go..
Heath being in the top stories of many 2008 reviews (in magazines, online etc. ..) it comes all back. Two nights ago - I was in Paris - I dreamt of Heath again. This time I (or, not sure if it really was me) and a director who did direct Heath in a film (but I don't know which director - it wasn't Ang Lee), sat together in a dark room watching scenes of films with Heath and each time his face appeared it would change into the face of other actors (Johnny Depp etc) and the director would each time comment on how good these other actors would be (and how they would look like Heath) in representing Heath's character in that scene.. In my dream, I would never agree with the director..
Also, what I sometimes do in a crowd on the street when I see a person that resembles Heath, I think about what actor would one day 'become' the next Heath.. But of course, noone will ever replace him. Still, it so bugs me that he's gone. .. It bugs me so much. I still feel angry really. It's probably a mean thing to say, but I'm angry because he was so careless about his sleeping problem and all the medication he felt he needed to come to some kind of rest and peace. But in all this delirium I feel he did not think about what the outcome could be, especially with respect to his daughter. I feel terrible for Michelle and Mathilda. He should have gotten his act together, for Mathilda. Especially for her.HAPPY NEW YEAR everyone!..
It's been almost a year now, that he's gone.. :'(
j.U.d.E.
I join the j.U.d.E hug and kiss club too.
I took a nap this afternoon, and dreamed that someone (maybe Celeste) and I went to the little deli/snack bar downstairs from the office of The Masses. She was inside, seeing if she could find out anything interesting. I was leaning in the open doorway, looking out, and suddenly realized that Heath had surely been in this doorway many times. I suddenly felt weak, excited, thrilled, and hoped to see him while we were there. In the dream I didn't remember that he'd died.
I am curious whether you were happy or sad when you woke up...
Very happy. Til I remembered reality. I can't believe reality.Elle, neither can I! Why did this had to happen? Everyday I ask that question. So much he could have done.. and we'll never see it.
Also, this year he would have turned 30. It's just so odd to know that this will never happen.. Soon Jake will be older than Heath.. :-\:-\
j.U.d.E.
Also, this year he would have turned 30. It's just so odd to know that this will never happen.. Soon Jake will be older than Heath.. :-\
j.U.d.E.
Actually I think that dream is really cool Fiona! A good story with lots of symbolism, Heath has all his proper Heath-y accoutrements, et cetera. And getting to sit with him and discuss what you have in common? Sounds pretty sweet.
Well, here's mine...
what I wrote the morning after... (with a few edits for clarity)
1/8/09
I had a Heath dream. We were at a house a la Laurel Canyon or Rose Bowl, some other people were there - no one from real life that I knew - and Heath was there and we were all watching The Dark Knight. Heath was in the house watching too, sort of like he was just fresh from playing The Joker, like after a play or something. (He had the shoulder length sweaty hair and t shirt, but no make-up or costume.) And in the dream, it's not that he was dead, but I knew that once the movie/night was over, I would not get to see him again. And in the dream, I kept getting frustrated because people were interrupting/getting in the way of me watching both the him and the movie (I was trying to watch him watch the movie). I wanted to be able to see him, and at the same time be able to think, "This is the last time I will see you." But it never worked out because of all the distractions. And in the dream, I never got that moment. The dream ended because the alarm clock went off... Though it was a sad, unfulfilling dream for me, Heath himself was not sad, etc. It was all my worries, not his.
That's sad and beautiful all at once. He had no worries in your dream..
Have you ever met him in real life?
j.U.d.E.
nope, j.U.d.E.
Ted, then says to Shel, that it will be hard sleeping outdoors, especially since Shel hates camping and especially since Heath Ledger is not going to come join him and cuddle up with him....... Aaaaaaawh..
j.U.d.E.