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Title: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: David In Indy on July 24, 2008, 02:35:37 pm
I will be watching the Olympics, so I answered Yes - Some of it. I love the Olympics. It's a time when the world can come together to celebrate and unite. I know some people plan on boycotting the Olympics due to their opposition to China and human rights, but we must remember these young people have trained for years and years for this moment. What is happening in China is not their fault. And even though I cheer for the athletes from my country, I always feel happy for the individual who wins the event, as their country's flag is hoisted high above their head and his or her country's national anthem is played. :)



Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Brown Eyes on July 24, 2008, 02:40:00 pm

I'll probably inevitably end up watching a little bit of the Olympics (which is what I voted for).  I'm not a sports fan at all - except for bull riding!!  So, the Olympics aren't really my favorite thing to watch.  Although, there are some summer events that I do find fun... diving in particular.

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 24, 2008, 02:41:36 pm
Well, I checked "Other" because it very much depends on whether a sport I enjoy watching (e.g., Men's Diving, Men's Gymnastics) is broadcast at a time I can watch.  :-\
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Katie77 on July 24, 2008, 07:32:26 pm
Yes, I will watch some of it, particularly the sports where Australia has a good representation.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: optom3 on July 24, 2008, 07:37:18 pm
I will be watching the gymnastics with my daughter.I will also be watching the tennis with younger son, and if there is any wrestling I will watch that with older son.
I cannot condone what is going on in China, but I separate that from the athletes.I am so involved in sports with the kids.I know even at their level how much work goes into every event. My tennis mad son was meant to be playing an exhibition match today and it was called off, due to a massive thunderstorm.He was so upset as was his opponent.
So I will cheer for the athletes and try and put the politics aside.My biggest dilemma is who to cheer for,Brits or Americans !!!!!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 24, 2008, 09:49:52 pm
My biggest dilemma is who to cheer for,Brits or Americans !!!!!

Tell you what, no offense but that reminds me of the one thing I hate the worst about the Olympics: being constantly bombarded by a medal tally by country by the TV commentators.  >:(

Talk about being contrary to the Olympic spirit!  :(
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: optom3 on July 24, 2008, 10:26:54 pm
Tell you what, no offense but that reminds me of the one thing I hate the worst about the Olympics: being constantly bombarded by a medal tally by country by the TV commentators.  >:(

Talk about being contrary to the Olympic spirit!  :(

No offense taken,being originally from the U.K I never had to listen to a very long medal tally.More a case of blink and it's gone.
I do remember one particularly fine olympics many, many moons ago, where the whole of my all girls convent school developed a collective, massive crush on Mark Spitz, the swimmer.His medal tally which I think was 7 was even mentioned at our end of year mass !!!!!
Can you believe that.All those raging hormones in the students, and years of unleashed hormones in the nuns, heady days !!!!
It brings a smile to my face even all these years on.He was American I believe.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: ednbarby on July 24, 2008, 10:40:40 pm
Not really, no.  I find it jingoistic to the nth degree.  All this competition between countries... it's just silly.

<--- shameless bleeding heart liberal
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on July 25, 2008, 12:35:11 pm
looking forwrd rto watching some of it - probably stuff like the gymnastics, the rowing, etc.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on July 25, 2008, 01:00:49 pm
To me, any decent person should NOT watch the China 2008 Olympics !
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: David In Indy on July 25, 2008, 04:41:50 pm
Hey wait a minute Artiste! That's a bit harsh don't you think? Just because some of us plan on watching the Olympics doesn't make us indecent. I've always enjoyed watching the Olympics, and I enjoy watching all the talented young athletes from the different countries. And I highly doubt my watching or not watching the Olympics would have any impact at all on China.

I'm not that important! :laugh: ;)

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: brokeplex on July 25, 2008, 04:46:39 pm
To me, any decent person should NOT watch the China 2008 Olympics !

Artiste has a point, if the Chinese regime is oppressive, watching the Olympics indirectly supports their oppression. So, perhaps those who agree that the gov in Beijing should not be given any support then should not watch the Olympics.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: David In Indy on July 25, 2008, 04:59:10 pm
Artiste has a point, if the Chinese regime is oppressive, watching the Olympics indirectly supports their oppression. So, perhaps those who agree that the gov in Beijing should not be given any support then should not watch the Olympics.

How? How does my watching the Olympics in Indianapolis support Chinese oppression over on the other side of the world? I don't get it.

So you're saying the entire world should tune out the Olympics and ignore all the athletes and their hard work because we are upset with China? China will continue to do what it's doing regardless if I watch the Olympics or not. Like I said, I'm not that important. And besides, perhaps the Olympics will allow China to feel more a part of the international community and cause them to rethink their human rights policies. :)

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on July 25, 2008, 05:47:21 pm
Merci, David !

Yes, thanks, since I am happy that you are responding... thinking !!

David, I consider you an important person !

You are important to me and to others, since you think !

You can think of continuing your freedom, surely !

Having said that, did you see that I had posted on many of my threads among other reasons for boycotting them: that China gathered gays in that country before the Olympics,
is that fair ?

I find that indecent of China to place gay men there in prison for no reason, but because they are gay and their 2008 Olympics China nears !

Do I have at least one point David, may I ask ?

Au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on July 25, 2008, 05:57:35 pm
I heard on the radio lately, that the Olympics were done as games by Spartans, and that they were all gay men !

But, it seems to me that the Olympics now is anti-gay !

So why are gay watching them ?

I think that I am a decent person, as gay man too,  and I am respecting myself and other gay men and others, when I will boycott the China 2008 Olympics, for many reasons, for feedom being one reason !

What do you think ?

Au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Lynne on July 25, 2008, 05:58:24 pm
I voted Not Sure, mostly because I don't have a great deal of interest in summer Oympics...I might watch some of the gymnastics or track events if I run across them.  I am always completely amazed by the track athletes.  I am a bigger fan of the winter events, especially skiing.

It's interesting to think about whether or not a boycott of the Olympics would have any impact on China and the human rights situation.  There are good arguments on both sides re: economically impacting the country versus not isolating them.

During one period of my life (the Boston years, circa 1992-1999), in the earthy-crunchy granola days, I made a concerted effort not to buy anything made in China.  I still remember trying to find vegetarian shoes - i.e. non-leather alternatives...I think I was left with Keds or Birkenstocks (who had one non-leather model).  ::)  Tilting at windmills...
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on July 25, 2008, 06:05:55 pm
Merci Lynne !

May I ask isn't a decent life more important than gansters ??

Did you know that China has children as real slaves working in shops ?

So, to me, I try to purchase less ans less Made In China items; besides many are dangerous, even kids' toys !! Did you know ? Create jobs in your own country, isn't that better ?

So, maybe purchasing less and less, or no Made in China items, would be a good habit for you to continue ? And, this way, you continue your freedom ? Likewise to boycott the China 2008 Olympics !

What do you think ?

Au revoir,
hugs!

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: optom3 on July 25, 2008, 10:38:56 pm
Merci Lynne !

May I ask isn't a decent life more important than gansters ??

Did you know that China has children as real slaves working in shops ?

So, to me, I try to purchase less ans less Made In China items; besides many are dangerous, even kids' toys !! Did you know ? Create jobs in your own country, isn't that better ?

So, maybe purchasing less and less, or no Made in China items, would be a good habit for you to continue ? And, this way, you continue your freedom ? Likewise to boycott the China 2008 Olympics !

What do you think ?

Au revoir,
hugs!



I do not think I am indecent because I watch some of the olympics.I watch because my children are heavily involved in sports and I appreciate all the effort that goes in to training to that level of peak fitness.
I suspect that even if the whole world turned off their TV's all that would happen would be that ordinary working Chinese would suffer.It is hardly ever the perpetrators of the wrong doings that suffer.
Time and time again it is ordinary people who bear the brunt.The economy would suffer so badly that more and more kids would be used.I can see no good comming of a boycot.Just more innocents suffering as usual.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on July 25, 2008, 11:28:16 pm
Merci optom !

May I say that it is ordinary people who can make a difference for freedom, peace, etc., by boycotting the Olympics games, especially the next China Olympics games this August 2008 !

If your children or any others watch gansters-controlled play, would you be happy ?? No ! No one in their right mind invites known criminals into their homes, right ?

The Olympic 2008 China games could have been placed elsewhere or cancelled till next year or so, instead to be in of a Hitler-like regime that China is; remember that China had murderers butchered innocent children in Africa in many villages recently, in order to get free oil !

China has tortured innocent Tibetans, and others too !!

Even young men were murdered on trump-up charges in China so it got $ for body parts paid by the wealthy who do not care about human life, like China does not like ordinary people rights within as well as outside China ! Are your kids next to be eliminated by such a regime of oppression ??

It is decent persons which can make a difference by boycotting the Olympics 2008 in China and even the next Olympics since they are anti-gay and more to be said too !!

May I say, that ordinary people would have made a difference everywhere, even in Germany in order to stop of millions of gays, millions of jews, and millions of other so-called-unwanted persons burned to death !! Same thing now is happening by China... in many ways, did you know ?

Raising decently kids is the  aim of a decent person/parent/civilized country, and can be done without the China 2008 Olympics, right ?

There are other similar games of such sports in the world for you to decently educate a child with, you know ?

Au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: David In Indy on July 26, 2008, 12:21:15 am
That's like saying since I don't like the fact my next door neighbor spanks his children, I won't talk to the little kid from down the street because he's playing in their front yard.

It doesn't make sense. It's not the athletes fault!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Ellemeno on July 26, 2008, 03:55:52 am
That's like saying since I don't like the fact my next door neighbor spanks his children, I won't talk to the little kid from down the street because he's playing in their front yard.

It doesn't make sense. It's not the athletes fault!


I haven't been paying attention to the China/Olympics situation, but while it may not be any of the world athletes' fault that the Chinese government is repressive/ecologically disastrous/etc., and it may not have been the athletes who made the awful decision to allow China to host the Olympics, it is their choice to go participate in the Chinese-hosted Olympics. 


Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: David In Indy on July 26, 2008, 04:15:43 am

I haven't been paying attention to the China/Olympics situation, but while it may not be any of the world athletes' fault that the Chinese government is repressive/ecologically disastrous/etc., and it may not have been the athletes who made the awful decision to allow China to host the Olympics, it is their choice to go participate in the Chinese-hosted Olympics. 




If you had rigorously trained for perhaps 15 out of the 20 years of your life, wouldn't you too seize the opportunity and go, even if it meant travelling to the Chinese-hosted Olympics? Perhaps I am without conscience but I believe I would go, no matter where the Olympics were held. :)

Do we really want our World's youth returning to their home countries with their proverbial "tails between their legs" just because we objected to China and their Human Rights record?

 
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on July 26, 2008, 07:09:30 am
In China, children are used as slaves... many are, and do we in the free world want that to continue ?
Oh, we can give a blind eye to that ? I do not and that is another reason that I boycott  the China 2008 Olympics !

Thanks David ! Any reasons, you want to watch those China ones ?
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on July 26, 2008, 07:20:05 am
Here is an email that I got to-day from a chinese person in China, who is a citizen that wants freedom there.

Here is part of his email, that explains how different their athetes are trained as slaves for politics so China can dominate them, as China cons the World with their 2008 Olympics:

       Some of the girls from the gymnastic team as young as 14, have been confined to state run training camps for no less then 8 years, away from family, training non stop including missing most of their academic needs. All national Chinese Olympic teams, train under the State supervision. Only last year there were four reported serious accidents in the Chinese team, from over training including three young athletes that suffered irreversible serious physical injuries with broken spines. This week a girl, seventeen years old, from the canoeing team revealed her fear of water, as she was forced to join the national team when she was only ten years of age, as she was seen to be a strong girl.           

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So you see partly, that China under the guise of sports cons the World and its own people too by forcing them to be like slaves or be slaves ? ?

This person will get prison, be tortured, etc., if found to have sent such emails to us in the free world, because since January talking negatively about China on the internet is a crime since such a law came into effect, we know ?
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: optom3 on July 26, 2008, 12:52:03 pm
Here is an email that I got to-day from a chinese person in China, who is a citizen that wants freedom there.

Here is part of his email, that explains how different their athetes are trained as slaves for politics so China can dominate them, as China cons the World with their 2008 Olympics:

       Some of the girls from the gymnastic team as young as 14, have been confined to state run training camps for no less then 8 years, away from family, training non stop including missing most of their academic needs. All national Chinese Olympic teams, train under the State supervision. Only last year there were four reported serious accidents in the Chinese team, from over training including three young athletes that suffered irreversible serious physical injuries with broken spines. This week a girl, seventeen years old, from the canoeing team revealed her fear of water, as she was forced to join the national team when she was only ten years of age, as she was seen to be a strong girl.           

........

So you see partly, that China under the guise of sports cons the World and its own people too by forcing them to be like slaves or be slaves ? ?

This person will get prison, be tortured, etc., if found to have sent such emails to us in the free world, because since January talking negatively about China on the internet is a crime since such a law came into effect, we know ?

I see the point you are making 100%.However I still believe that even a worldwide blanket boycot of the games would harm the ordinary Chinese citizen far more than those causing all the mayhem and murder in the 1st instance. The people in positions of power very rarely get punished first.It usually takes some horrendous crimes to be published worldwide, before other countries step in.Then inevitably it seems, the end result is war, with yet more carnage.
The initial mistake was in letting China host the Olympics in the 1st place.Once that was done I see no way back, which would not ultimately lead to yet more bloodshed and carnage.
I remember many years ago John McEnroe turned down obscene amounts of money to play an exhibition match, in the then, deeply apartheid South Africa. It caused no change at all, although when he later met Mandela, he was thanked by him for his action.
The situation in South Africa is actually a good example.For years the white SouthAfricans treated the blacks abominably.It was truly horrendous.Now the pendulum has swung back the other way.The Blacks are treating the whites horrendously.I am not condoning either.2 wrongs never make a right,and it must be the most difficult thing ever, following on from years of killings, torture, imprisonment etc,just to say, O.K well we have our land back now, we forgive you so everythings just fine and dandy.No most humans are not that forgiving.
The only way for real change to take effect, is for governments to step in, but as said that usually involves either war or sanctions or both.Again the ordinary citizen i the one who bears the brunt of it.
I wish I knew what the answer was, but it would take someone much wiser than me to solve this conundrum.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on July 26, 2008, 04:06:51 pm
Merci optom!

I replied to you a very long post, but computor went capute, since it's storming here!

Shortly, I ask you to remember about Greece which came back to democracy peacefully !
Could that not happen in China ?


Au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: brokeplex on July 26, 2008, 07:11:59 pm
How? How does my watching the Olympics in Indianapolis support Chinese oppression over on the other side of the world? I don't get it.

So you're saying the entire world should tune out the Olympics and ignore all the athletes and their hard work because we are upset with China? China will continue to do what it's doing regardless if I watch the Olympics or not. Like I said, I'm not that important. And besides, perhaps the Olympics will allow China to feel more a part of the international community and cause them to rethink their human rights policies. :)



if you watch it, the ad rates go up, and the network makes more money, and the Olympic games are more of a triumph for the leadership in Beijing.

I haven't said a thing about the "world tuning out the Olympics". I merely stated that Artiste has a good point about not patronizing the sponsors of the Olympics, that is if you object to the policies of the leadership in China.

Are you genuinely suggesting that the rulers in Beijing will "rethink their human rights policies" based upon a "feeling" from the Olympics? Or are you making a joke?

Did Hitler and Nazi Germany change their policies after all of the good world press they received during the 1936 Olympics?
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on July 26, 2008, 08:02:50 pm
Merci brokeplex !

You said rightly:
       Did Hitler and Nazi Germany change their policies after all of the good world press they received during the 1936 Olympics? 
 
 
         


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Even if the USA and other good and free persons went there to those Hilter Germany Olympics games and the black person from USA ran better, Hitler and his thugs still murdered more and more millions and millions of innocent gays, innocent jews, and other so-called unwanted persons !! China did, does and will do more such atrocities because it is a non-respectful regime of human rights in and out of its borders, unfortunately !

So we kiss China now by watching its tortured-like-slaves play at sports ?? That are not free sports, I say !

It will be better to watch  the indigenous games August 3rd where free persons play, and other sports games like World swimming, may I suggest, as I boycott the China 2008 Olympics and thier sponsors and the Olympic Committee which accepted China to present it !

Besides, why watch the Olympics when they are anti-gay ?

Au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on July 27, 2008, 11:45:50 am
DavidInIndy, may I ask your ideas on it ? Have they changed and are changing to not watching them, maybe to watch less and less of it ?

Au revoir,
hugs!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on August 08, 2008, 09:15:47 am
No, I will NOT watch the China 2008 August Olympics, since I am for human value because China is not considering human rights having murdered even innocent children in Africa in order to get free oil, having tortured innocent Tibetans, having murdered even Chinsee-born young men in order to get money with their body parts, and continuing such cruelty !!

So, I marked: OTHER !
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Fran on August 08, 2008, 10:10:16 am
If you had rigorously trained for perhaps 15 out of the 20 years of your life, wouldn't you too seize the opportunity and go, even if it meant travelling to the Chinese-hosted Olympics? Perhaps I am without conscience but I believe I would go, no matter where the Olympics were held. :)

David, if I had devoted my life to a sport and made the U.S. Olympic team, you bet I'd go... so perhaps I also am without a conscience.  :)

Yes, I'm going to be watching the coverage.  I won't be glued to my television set, but I will be watching select events.  I'm especially looking forward to women's gymnastics -- my favorite summer Olympic event.  I can't wait to see how Nastia Liukin does, but it'll be great seeing gymnasts from other countries compete as well.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0EiHz8LzY0[/youtube]

One has to wonder what the international Olympic committee was thinking (or not thinking, perhaps) when they selected China.  Couldn't they anticipate the controversy that would arise? 

That said, I have to put China's human-rights issues aside here and support the athletes (from every country, not just the ones from the USA) who have devoted their time and energy to training for this year's summer Olympics.  For many of them, this will be their only chance to compete in their sport; many won't be able to wait until 2012.

Oh, and I have no interest in each country's medal tally.  May the best athletes in each event prevail, not necessarily the Americans.


Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 08, 2008, 11:57:43 am
Now neither of the Hamm brothers will be there for men's gymnastics.  :'(
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Fran on August 08, 2008, 01:09:37 pm
Now neither of the Hamm brothers will be there for men's gymnastics.  :'(

What a bad break for both of them, especially since they both made the team!  They would have been three-time Olympians.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on August 08, 2008, 02:57:54 pm
Even if I was an Olympian, I would not go to the China August 2008 Olympics, respecting myself and for human rights !



Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: David In Indy on August 08, 2008, 09:12:47 pm
The opening ceremonies are very beautiful. :)

And over on Animal Planet they are showing "The Puppy Games" which are on from 6-9 pm, and again at 9 pm - 12am and 12-3 am. So, I'm flipping back and forth between the two. :D

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 08, 2008, 10:11:45 pm
The opening ceremonies are very beautiful. :)


You bet! All those beautiful young men. ...  ::)

Added: It is a little strange, however, to see athletes from Asian nations walk into the stadium while the music in the background is "Scotland the Brave" played on bagpipes.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kerry on August 09, 2008, 09:13:52 am

I sat-up until 1 o'clock this morning (Australian time), watching the fabulous opening ceremony. It was quite amazing. And what about the cauldron lighting? Absolutely Amazing! The way the guy ran around the wall of the stadium, crouching tiger style, to light the cauldron. Even though it was early in the morning and way past my bed time, I couldn't take my eyes from the screen. It was spectacular.  :D 
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on August 09, 2008, 09:26:21 am
What do you think ?


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And if you are a Guest, and if you want to post, you have to be a member in order to post, I am told.

Bienvenue, that's welcome ! If you have any trouble, you can find my private email address on this site, and so emailing me with the title TROUBLE would help !


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Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 09, 2008, 10:28:08 am
Kerry, is Ian Thorpe competing for Australia?

I haven't heard. All we hear over here is Michael Phelps, Michael Phelps, Michael Phelps. ...   ::)  :-\
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 09, 2008, 09:05:31 pm
I watch as much of it as possible.  Would watch all of it if I could.

I love the Olympics - lot of human drama.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kerry on August 09, 2008, 11:54:06 pm
Kerry, is Ian Thorpe competing for Australia?

I haven't heard. All we hear over here is Michael Phelps, Michael Phelps, Michael Phelps. ...   ::)  :-\

Alas, Ian "The Thorpedo" Thorpe is not competing.  :'(  In his absence, keep an eye on Aussie swim stars Grant Hackett and Stephanie Rice.  :D
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Katie77 on August 10, 2008, 12:09:46 am
Yes, Kerry, like you, I too sat up and watched the opening ceremony, and I thought it was spectacular.

Us Aussies are quite lucky this time, as our time zone is only two hours different to China, so we get to see most of the events at a decent hour.

And great news today, Stephanie Rice got the gold......Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: David In Indy on August 10, 2008, 12:17:40 am
Alas, Ian "The Thorpedo" Thorpe is not competing.  :'(  In his absence, keep an eye on Aussie swim stars Grant Hackett and Stephanie Rice.  :D

Kerry I will be sure to watch for Grant Hackett and Stephanie Rice and I'll cheer them on if I see them competing! :)

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kerry on August 10, 2008, 02:12:03 am
Yes, Kerry, like you, I too sat up and watched the opening ceremony, and I thought it was spectacular.

Us Aussies are quite lucky this time, as our time zone is only two hours different to China, so we get to see most of the events at a decent hour.

And great news today, Stephanie Rice got the gold......Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi

Oh, that's such wonderful news!  :D

Any news on how Grant Hackett went in the 400m?
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kerry on August 10, 2008, 02:14:26 am
Kerry I will be sure to watch for Grant Hackett and Stephanie Rice and I'll cheer them on if I see them competing! :)

I'll be cheering them on with you, David. And such wonderful news that Stephanie already has a gold.  :D
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 10, 2008, 02:41:43 am
Alas, Ian "The Thorpedo" Thorpe is not competing.  :'( 

The "Thorpedo" is not an Olympian? WTF?  ???

That's a shame.  :(
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kerry on August 10, 2008, 03:08:59 am
The "Thorpedo" is not an Olympian? WTF?  ???

That's a shame.  :(

It is, indeed, a shame. However, it is my understanding that Ian Thorpe voluntarily retired from competitive swimming. It was his own choice. I'm sure I can speak for most Australians, as well as swim fans everywhere, when I say what a shame it is that he has retired.  :'(
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Katie77 on August 10, 2008, 03:40:19 am
Yes, Thorpie is a favourite with all Aussies.......

And Grant Hackett came sixth Kerry.......his race is the 1500....thats the one he will win gold....
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: KristinDaBomb on August 10, 2008, 05:52:25 am
I don't watch a lot of t.v. unless I Tivo it, so no, I won't be watching this. I don't think Ive ever watched the Olympics.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 10, 2008, 08:25:52 pm
Cannot believe the announcers of the women's gymnastic are lamenting the "good ole days" of Romanian gymnastics when Karolyi was in charge.

Karolyi is a martinet.  His training regime back in the days of Nadia was brutal and cruel and did not take into account the mental, physical or emotional health of the young girls in his charge. 

He's a shit.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Shasta542 on August 11, 2008, 06:40:26 am
I enjoyed seeing the U.S. men's swim team win the 4 X 100 relay! That was great.  :) They didn't get "smashed" at all.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: optom3 on August 11, 2008, 02:28:44 pm
Cannot believe the announcers of the women's gymnastic are lamenting the "good ole days" of Romanian gymnastics when Karolyi was in charge.

Karolyi is a martinet.  His training regime back in the days of Nadia was brutal and cruel and did not take into account the mental, physical or emotional health of the young girls in his charge. 

He's a shit.


Agreed !!!

On the subject of gymnastics anyone else think half the Chinese team are closer to 12 than 16??
Because my daughter is a gymnast we are glued to it and also the tennis for son. But there is no way some of the Chinese gymnasts are 16. Or do they just hit puberty several years later in China?
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Post by: Brokeback_Dev on August 11, 2008, 02:34:48 pm
I voted.   My answer was watch it some of the time.  Ill watch it mostly while my husband is home with it on.  He's a sports fan of all kinds. 

The  Chinese men's gymnastic were incredible.

The Americans' swimming was awesome too.
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Post by: Katie77 on August 11, 2008, 07:01:32 pm

Agreed !!!

On the subject of gymnastics anyone else think half the Chinese team are closer to 12 than 16??
Because my daughter is a gymnast we are glued to it and also the tennis for son. But there is no way some of the Chinese gymnasts are 16. Or do they just hit puberty several years later in China?

Yes the do look like "little" girls dont they.

I remember reading a story of that Romanian girl who was the first to get 10 out of 10 some years back, Nadia Komenichi (i think it was), and the story revealed that she actually had her puberty chemically held back. Obviiously, it must make a difference to how they perform at gymnastics.
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Post by: delalluvia on August 11, 2008, 07:15:48 pm

Agreed !!!

On the subject of gymnastics anyone else think half the Chinese team are closer to 12 than 16??
Because my daughter is a gymnast we are glued to it and also the tennis for son. But there is no way some of the Chinese gymnasts are 16. Or do they just hit puberty several years later in China?

Yep, they looked closer to 13 than 16.

Yes, I believe the Iron Curtain countries used growth inhibitors and kept the girls' weight so low they were delayed in entering puberty so they could excel at the skills they needed to win (getting hips and boobs and body fat slows and weighs the female body down in performing the fantastic tumbling you see.  To do such tricks you have to have the body of a child or a boy to compete at the elite level).  I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese gymnasts were given such things.  They're doing the drug testing aren't they?  Who is checking their testing?

The girls probably have no clue.  I remember watching a PBS special where some former East German female athletes never realized they had been given steroids in their competitive days - despite the body hair, bigger muscles, etc., - they were told they were getting vitamin shots and they never questioned their coaches.
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Post by: delalluvia on August 11, 2008, 07:17:47 pm
I enjoyed seeing the U.S. men's swim team win the 4 X 100 relay! That was great.  :) They didn't get "smashed" at all.

That was sweet.  After such trash talking by the French, it was a feel good moment to see their expressions when they realized they had lost.  ;D
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Post by: optom3 on August 11, 2008, 07:33:55 pm
Yep, they looked closer to 13 than 16.

Yes, I believe the Iron Curtain countries used growth inhibitors and kept the girls' weight so low they were delayed in entering puberty so they could excel at the skills they needed to win (getting hips and boobs and body fat slows and weighs the female body down in performing the fantastic tumbling you see.  To do such tricks you have to have the body of a child or a boy to compete at the elite level).  I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese gymnasts were given such things.  They're doing the drug testing aren't they?  Who is checking their testing?

The girls probably have no clue.  I remember watching a PBS special where some former East German female athletes never realized they had been given steroids in their competitive days - despite the body hair, bigger muscles, etc., - they were told they were getting vitamin shots and they never questioned their coaches.

I would be surprised if there was not a double attack going on.Lying about their age as they have to be 16 in the year of the Olympics and maybe some growth retardation hormones as well. I find the whole thing very scary.

My daughter who is now 10 is tiny like meand sorry bragging here,took 1st in State for her level this year, and it was her 1st year of competition.
All of a sudden the head coach at her gym is very interested in her. He has even given her free privates.He passed comment to my husband how she is just the right height and build for gymnastics. She is very small but with very very strong arm and leg muscles.He said to us both, he hoped she does not grow too much, and stays small like me.
She cannot legitimately compete in the next Olympics ,which is what he hoped as she will not be 16.
The only good thing, is when we are late with payment, we don't get stinky mails from the gym owner, all of a sudden our daughter has become too important for her to lose.!!!!
She is already doing level 7 work. I am so neurotic these days about everything, I have told her when she gets the free privates not to have anything to drink from him.
The level some coaches will go to for that extra bit of help, really scares me, and as you said, the kids don't even know half the time.
 We had a wrestling coach here, who coached another team, not the one my oldest one was in, tell us that some coaches put steroids in drinks, so to warn our son only to drink from his own bottle.

A parents worries are never over. You think great, my kid is doing well in sports, that keeps them out of trouble to some extent, but Oh no,it is just a whole new set of worries.
Some day, someone has to write a book, Parenthood the real truth !!!!
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Post by: delalluvia on August 11, 2008, 07:48:10 pm
I would be surprised if there was not a double attack going on.Lying about their age as they have to be 16 in the year of the Olympics and maybe some growth retardation hormones as well. I find the whole thing very scary.

My daughter who is now 10 is tiny like meand sorry bragging here,took 1st in State for her level this year, and it was her 1st year of competition.
All of a sudden the head coach at her gym is very interested in her. He has even given her free privates.He passed comment to my husband how she is just the right height and build for gymnastics. She is very small but with very very strong arm and leg muscles.He said to us both, he hoped she does not grow too much, and stays small like me.
She cannot legitimately compete in the next Olympics ,which is what he hoped as she will not be 16.
The only good thing, is when we are late with payment, we don't get stinky mails from the gym owner, all of a sudden our daughter has become too important for her to lose.!!!!
She is already doing level 7 work. I am so neurotic these days about everything, I have told her when she gets the free privates not to have anything to drink from him.
The level some coaches will go to for that extra bit of help, really scares me, and as you said, the kids don't even know half the time.
 We had a wrestling coach here, who coached another team, not the one my oldest one was in, tell us that some coaches put steroids in drinks, so to warn our son only to drink from his own bottle.

A parents worries are never over. You think great, my kid is doing well in sports, that keeps them out of trouble to some extent, but Oh no,it is just a whole new set of worries.
Some day, someone has to write a book, Parenthood the real truth !!!!

Read "Little Girls in Pretty Boxes;  the making and breaking of elite gymnasts and skaters" by Joan Ryan. Things have certainly improved since she wrote this back in 2000-2005, but I'm sure a lot hasn't.  Read it and weep.
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Post by: delalluvia on August 12, 2008, 12:50:27 am
Congrats to the U.S. men's gymnastics team!!!

They were THIS close to a spectacular silver!  But oh, well.  They're a young team and will do great things.

So cute.  Some MUST be gay.  ;D
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Post by: injest on August 12, 2008, 01:06:44 am
Congrats to the U.S. men's gymnastics team!!!

They were THIS close to a spectacular silver!  But oh, well.  They're a young team and will do great things.

So cute.  Some MUST be gay.  ;D

what you saying? Straight men can't be cute??!

 >:( >:(


 :laugh:
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Post by: Katie77 on August 12, 2008, 01:30:11 am
what you saying? Straight men can't be cute??!

 >:( >:(


 :laugh:

Ironically, I just started watching the mens gymnastics, they are swinging on bars and stuff, and one of my thoughts were.....what wonderful eye candy for all the gay guys here. :o :o :o
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 12, 2008, 09:52:57 am
It is, indeed, a shame. However, it is my understanding that Ian Thorpe voluntarily retired from competitive swimming. It was his own choice. I'm sure I can speak for most Australians, as well as swim fans everywhere, when I say what a shame it is that he has retired.  :'(

He was in the stands "last night" to watch the swimming. The commentators mentioned that he had retired.  :(
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 12, 2008, 09:59:35 am

Agreed !!!

On the subject of gymnastics anyone else think half the Chinese team are closer to 12 than 16??
Because my daughter is a gymnast we are glued to it and also the tennis for son. But there is no way some of the Chinese gymnasts are 16. Or do they just hit puberty several years later in China?

I agree that they look younger than they are supposed to be. It occurs to me that if those kids are undergoing strenuous training regimens from a very young age, perhaps that delays puberty? We  know that strenuous athletic training can cause women to stop menstruating, so I wonder if such training can also delay the onset of puberty?  ???

While I admire what all gymnasts, male and female, can do, I sometimes wonder about broadcasting so-called "women's" gymnastics. I mean, very young, or very young looking, girls cavorting in skintight costumes?  ::)  At least the men don't look like little boys.  ::)
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 12, 2008, 10:01:51 am
The girls probably have no clue.  I remember watching a PBS special where some former East German female athletes never realized they had been given steroids in their competitive days - despite the body hair, bigger muscles, etc., - they were told they were getting vitamin shots and they never questioned their coaches.

I saw that PBS show, too. It was just horrible--and horribly sad, what they did to those girls.  :(
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 12, 2008, 10:12:48 am
Congrats to the U.S. men's gymnastics team!!!

They were THIS close to a spectacular silver!  But oh, well.  They're a young team and will do great things.

Dammit, I'm so cross with myself that I just got too sleepy to stay up and watch.  >:(  I'm sure we will see some of them again in four years (four effen years. ...  :laugh: ). The whole team, including David Durante, the alternate who didn't get a chance to compete (and who has biceps the size of my thighs. ...  ::) ). They really did come off as a team, like a bunch of brothers. I'm so happy for them.  :D

I've been thinking, too, about the ethnic make-up of the American team (Russian, Indian, Chinese, Irish, Italian, and maybe even a WASP or two!), and I think those guys are wonderful representation of what America is when we are at our best.  :D

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So cute.  Some MUST be gay.  ;D

 :laugh:  None of them are setting off my gaydar, but a guy can dream about one or two of them. ...  :laugh:

On the other hand, a certain young diver whom I watched compete last night (who shall be nameless). ...  ::)
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Post by: Kelda on August 12, 2008, 05:28:29 pm
You bet! All those beautiful young men. ...  ::)

Added: It is a little strange, however, to see athletes from Asian nations walk into the stadium while the music in the background is "Scotland the Brave" played on bagpipes.  :laugh:

I did wonder about that - I caught a bit of the opening cermeony while sitting int he airport waiting to get my flight to Brussels... why was that!?!

London will have a hard job beating that opening ceremony.

I was also watching the gymnastics today - its def one of my fave olympic sports. I prefer the female gymnastics though.

I was dissapointed to hear little Tom Daley didn't do too well at the synchronised diviing - I had planned to watch him but didn't get back in time to watch it. Have you heard of Tom Daley - the 14 year old european champion in diving?

He's a little cutie... its funny though all the start ages are different - he is only 14 yrs and 81 days and he was allowed to compete..

Yet some of the chinese gymnastic girls look about 8... I reckon there is a few birth certificates that have been doctored to make them 16...

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Post by: Fran on August 12, 2008, 05:48:09 pm
Read "Little Girls in Pretty Boxes;  the making and breaking of elite gymnasts and skaters" by Joan Ryan. Things have certainly improved since she wrote this back in 2000-2005, but I'm sure a lot hasn't.  Read it and weep.

Fiona,

There's a new book out on women's gymnastics called "Chalked Up."  It was written by Jennifer Sey, who was the 1986 U.S. national champion at age 17. 


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Post by: delalluvia on August 12, 2008, 06:45:47 pm
I agree that they look younger than they are supposed to be. It occurs to me that if those kids are undergoing strenuous training regimens from a very young age, perhaps that delays puberty? We  know that strenuous athletic training can cause women to stop menstruating, so I wonder if such training can also delay the onset of puberty?  ???

Not sure, but I think so.

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While I admire what all gymnasts, male and female, can do, I sometimes wonder about broadcasting so-called "women's" gymnastics. I mean, very young, or very young looking, girls cavorting in skintight costumes?  ::)  At least the men don't look like little boys.

There's a whole argument going on in women's sports about just this subject.  "Women's" gymnastics and "Women's" ice skating have been given over to little girls because the elite level requires athletic skills that only the body of a child can manage.

Men don't have this problem because they gain muscle mass as they get older, so the older they get, the stronger they get, their body shape doesn't change much.  Not so with women.  The older women get, the more fat tissue they gain along with hips and breasts and weight and change of center of gravity.

You noticed the age of women ice skaters plummet when the mandatory 'figures' were taken out of competitions.  Mastery of the figures took years to learn by which time women were actually women who were graceful and skilled but couldn't do the huge jumps that are de rigueur these days.

When little Nadia and Olga Korbut and their amazing tumbling came on the scene in women's gymnastics, the days of women being in women's gymnastics were over.

Nowadays women are fighting back, trying to not be 'too old' when they turn 18, but what successes you do see are only women who are naturally small whose strict dieting keeps their weight low.
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Post by: delalluvia on August 12, 2008, 06:53:07 pm
Dammit, I'm so cross with myself that I just got too sleepy to stay up and watch.  >:(  I'm sure we will see some of them again in four years (four effen years. ...  :laugh: ). The whole team, including David Durante, the alternate who didn't get a chance to compete. They really did come off as a team, like a bunch of brothers. I'm so happy for them.  :D

He was in the stands crying as they won.  It was really sweet.

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I've been thinking, too, about the ethnic make-up of the American team (Russian, Indian, Chinese, Irish, Italian, and maybe even a WASP or two!), and I think those guys are wonderful representation of what America is when we are at our best.  :D

They brought that up as well on the broadcast.  Winning the silver medal depended on the apparatus our guys were worst at - the pommel horse.  The 3 guys chosen as best for this machine?  The Indian, Chinese and Russian guys - the Americans!!  ;D  It was great to hear that.

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None of them are setting off my gaydar, but a guy can dream about one or two of them. ...  :laugh:

On the other hand, a certain young diver whom I watched compete last night (who shall be nameless). ...  ::)

How young?  ;)

I'd have to watch them longer to get my gaydar in gear, but hey.   ;D  I like gymnasts better than swimmers, divers better than swimmers.  Swimmers are really smooth, they have that thin layer of fat (to keep them warm) over their muscles and have huge shoulders (a swimmer posing for Vogue or some woman's magazine was asked to take off her shoulder pads - she replied, "I'm not wearing any.") a look I'm not particularly fond of.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 12, 2008, 10:07:47 pm
David Durante was in the stands crying as they won.  It was really sweet.

I saw film of that. It was really sweet.  :)

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How young?  ;)

Eighteen. Whew!  ;D (And great abs. ...  ;D )

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;D  I like gymnasts better than swimmers, divers better than swimmers.

Me, too. Today at work one of my colleagues was saying she keeps confusing Mark Spitz and Greg Louganis. I'm like, "Girlfriend, how can you confuse Mark Spitz and Greg Louganis?"  :laugh:
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 12, 2008, 10:11:02 pm
There's a whole argument going on in women's sports about just this subject.  "Women's" gymnastics and "Women's" ice skating have been given over to little girls because the elite level requires athletic skills that only the body of a child can manage.

Doesn't seem right, does it? That you have to be a child to succeed at women's athletics?  :-\
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Post by: Katie77 on August 13, 2008, 12:06:38 am
While watching the opening ceremony, I thought to myself, I had never seen so many people with straight black hair in once place at one time....
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Post by: delalluvia on August 13, 2008, 12:22:48 am
Doesn't seem right, does it? That you have to be a child to succeed at women's athletics?  :-\

In such sports, yes.  Luckily you can still be an Amazon in the track events.

Ah, the poor U.S young woman's gymnast team.  They choked and gave the gold medal away.

It's a shame that nowadays, the competitions are so fierce, you hardly ever see them crack a smile on the floor.  You wonder if they're even enjoying doing their sport anymore.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 13, 2008, 08:35:00 am
In such sports, yes.  Luckily you can still be an Amazon in the track events.

It's probably an advantage to be an Amazon in track and field.

Tell you what, I even wonder when somebody gets a gold instead of a silver because he touches the wall eight hundredths of a second ahead of someone else. Eight hundredths of a second? That difference is only detectable by machine.  :-\
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Post by: Kelda on August 13, 2008, 03:33:05 pm
Not sure, but I think so.

There's a whole argument going on in women's sports about just this subject.  "Women's" gymnastics and "Women's" ice skating have been given over to little girls because the elite level requires athletic skills that only the body of a child can manage.

Men don't have this problem because they gain muscle mass as they get older, so the older they get, the stronger they get, their body shape doesn't change much.  Not so with women.  The older women get, the more fat tissue they gain along with hips and breasts and weight and change of center of gravity.


Apparently there was a 30 something gymnast in the german womans team?
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Post by: Fran on August 13, 2008, 05:15:27 pm
This article offers a glimpse into the gymnastics training program in China for girls who show promise:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/08/05/sports/gymnast.php

Apparently there was a 30 something gymnast in the german womans team?

Yeah.  Her name is Oksana Chusovitina, and she was born in 1975.  This is apparently her fifth Olympics.  She defected to Germany from Uzbekistan to get medical treatment for her son who was diagnosed with leukemia. 

She has qualified for all-around and vault, so hopefully we'll get to see her compete in the next couple of days.

Here's more info on her:  http://www.nbcolympics.com/athletes/athlete=801/qa/index.html

And here she is on vault at the 2008 World Cup competition:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyWBDWBM028[/youtube]

Pretty amazing.  I hope she does well in Beijing.



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Post by: delalluvia on August 13, 2008, 09:11:46 pm
Eighteen. Whew!  ;D (And great abs. ...  ;D )

Owwwwwwwwww!!  ;)

But I see what you mean - finally caught the men's synchro diving.  OMG!!! [pant pant]

Is it just me or is there no real reason the women's beach volleyball team

1) wear bikinis

2) that are all a size too small for them?

I really don't like watching them because I keep getting distracted by their asses hanging out the bottoms.

The men wear baggy shirts and shorts.  Either put the women in t-shirts and shorts or put the men in Speedos. >:(
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Post by: delalluvia on August 13, 2008, 09:27:28 pm
This article offers a glimpse into the gymnastics training program in China for girls who show promise:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/08/05/sports/gymnast.php

Yeah.  Her name is Oksana Chusovitina, and she was born in 1975.  This is apparently her fifth Olympics.  She defected to Germany from Uzbekistan to get medical treatment for her son who was diagnosed with leukemia. 

She has qualified for all-around and vault, so hopefully we'll get to see her compete in the next couple of days.

Here's more info on her:  http://www.nbcolympics.com/athletes/athlete=801/qa/index.html

And here she is on vault at the 2008 World Cup competition:

Pretty amazing.  I hope she does well in Beijing.

Good for her!  She's small and has that boy body.  My goodness, I can't imagine being her age and having to go through the rigorous training gymnast at the world level have to go through.  She definitely feels it every single morning.

Laughably, the American girl gymnast who injured her ankle 'shocked' viewers by telling everyone that her ankle was actually broken but didn't tell anyone and performed anyway.  This isn't unusual.  You can't see the hairline spinal fractures and other injuries some girls can suffer and I wonder what the bandages and wrist supports the other gymnasts signify.  I read how a few years ago one gymnast broke a bone in her foot, but didn't want to give up her place on the team or training for the months it would have taken her to heal properly, so right before she performed, she bounced up and down on her injured foot to 'deaden' it, so she could perform.  I watch the girls with ankle wraps and wonder when they jog up and down if they're just warming up or doing something more desperate.  :P
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 13, 2008, 09:41:03 pm
Is it just me or is there no real reason the women's beach volleyball team

1) wear bikinis

2) that are all a size too small for them?

I've been wondering about that myself.  ???

At least the women could wear something like bike shorts. ...  :-\
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Post by: delalluvia on August 13, 2008, 09:48:19 pm
I've been wondering about that myself.  ???

At least the women could wear something like bike shorts. ...  :-\

I was thinking the same thing about 'women's' gymnastics.  The men are in shorts and tank tops.  The women are in little leotards cut way too high for their muscled asses.  They're obviously all too young to need a bikini wax so when they spread their legs for the international world to see, the hedge isn't showing. 

Put 'em in fucking shorts for the gods' sake.  >:(

Even Martina Navaritalova started to wear shorts instead of skirts on the tennis courts.
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Post by: Katie77 on August 14, 2008, 02:54:15 am
Owwwwwwwwww!!  ;)

But I see what you mean - finally caught the men's synchro diving.  OMG!!! [pant pant]

Is it just me or is there no real reason the women's beach volleyball team

1) wear bikinis

2) that are all a size too small for them?

I really don't like watching them because I keep getting distracted by their asses hanging out the bottoms.

The men wear baggy shirts and shorts.  Either put the women in t-shirts and shorts or put the men in Speedos. >:(

I was watching the beach volley ball with hubby yesterday, and asked him the same thing......it took him a few minutes to unglue his eys off those dam tight arses in those dam tight bikinis to answer me, with a .....HUNH!!

Oh, speedos look good running into the water, but I dont think they would look that pretty bouncing up and down..

I was thinking the same thing about 'women's' gymnastics.  The men are in shorts and tank tops.  The women are in little leotards cut way too high for their muscled asses. 

 They're obviously all too young to need a bikini wax so when they spread their legs for the international world to see, the hedge isn't showing. 

Put 'em in fucking shorts for the gods' sake.  >:(

Even Martina Navaritalova started to wear shorts instead of skirts on the tennis courts.

Oh, thank god, its not just me who thinks that.........I was thinkin I was some kind of deviate.
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Post by: injest on August 14, 2008, 07:36:26 am
well I have noticed in the track event, they all say they HAVE to wear their clothes like that...you know tighter than skin and cut up to their ribs...for the speed and lack of wind resistance.. ::) ::)

which begs the question....the men are faster than the women (just a fact not a sexism) and they wear those long shorts...SOOO...imagine how fast THEY would be if only they could cut out all that wind resistance! Why I am surprised they don't get caught in all that wind and get blown slap off the track!

Seriously people! Just say you are using sex to draw interest...don't act like you think we are stupid...

and did you notice that as tiny and nonexistant as the volleyball players 'outfits' were, they had MESH INSERTS??  ::) ::)

I guess I am just an ol prude cause watching some woman constantly digging the wedgees outta her butt doesn't evoke sexual desire....it makes me think of her poor laundry person trying to keep the skid marks at bay...
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Post by: Katie77 on August 14, 2008, 08:05:59 am
Well tight seems to work for the cyclists.....

Only decision they have to make is whether to wear black shorts....

(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/suekat777/blackbicycleshorts.jpg)

......or red shorts

(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/suekat777/redbicycleshorts.jpg)
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 14, 2008, 08:41:48 am
I was thinking the same thing about 'women's' gymnastics.  The men are in shorts and tank tops.  The women are in little leotards cut way too high for their muscled asses.  They're obviously all too young to need a bikini wax so when they spread their legs for the international world to see, the hedge isn't showing. 

Put 'em in fucking shorts for the gods' sake.  >:(

Or put the men in leotards. ...  ;D  Hell, ballet dancers do it. ...  ;D

Speaking of the Chinese "women"--I use the term loosely--gymnasts, I saw something on the news last evening--I forget if it was national or local--where they spoke to a pediatric dentist, who commented on one of the "women" missing an adult canine tooth, "missing" as in she had lost the primary tooth but the secondary tooth had not yet come in--evidence that she is nowhere near as old as she is supposed to be.

Well tight seems to work for the cyclists.....

Well, I guess the cyclists genuinely do have an argument about wind resistance.  :-\
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 14, 2008, 08:48:45 am
Or put the men in leotards. ...  ;D  Hell, ballet dancers do it. ...  ;D

Speaking of the Chinese "women"--I use the term loosely--gymnasts, I saw something on the news last evening--I forget if it was national or local--where they spoke to a pediatric dentist, who commented on one of the "women" missing an adult canine tooth, "missing" as in she had lost the primary tooth but the secondary tooth had not yet come in--evidence that she is nowhere near as old as she is supposed to be.

Well, I guess the cyclists genuinely do have an argument about wind resistance.  :-\

but they still have actual CLOTH on their thighs...according to the women's side that extra cloth there inhibits movement...why are those men deliberately sabotaging themselves...if those shorts were cut up to their ribs on the sides they would have much freer movement and could go faster!
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Post by: Artiste on August 14, 2008, 09:11:05 am
Wow, nearly see-through cloth? Congratulations!
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Post by: Fran on August 14, 2008, 12:59:38 pm

Speaking of the Chinese "women"--I use the term loosely--gymnasts, I saw something on the news last evening--I forget if it was national or local--where they spoke to a pediatric dentist, who commented on one of the "women" missing an adult canine tooth, "missing" as in she had lost the primary tooth but the secondary tooth had not yet come in--evidence that she is nowhere near as old as she is supposed to be.

Interesting, Jeff.  But -- I'm playing devil's advocate here -- one could probably argue that one missing secondary tooth is just a fluke.  (For example, my older daughter only had three wisdom teeth -- which was actually a good thing when it came time for her to have them extracted).

Now two or more missing permanent teeth would make that argument more convincing.  :)

On a sad note, a few female gymnasts have suffered severe spinal injuries; namely, Julissa Gomez (USA) and Sang Lan (China).  There are plenty of risks involved in those routines.  (I'm glad my daughters chose ballet over gymnastics.)


Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on August 14, 2008, 06:14:57 pm
WARNING: What follows is not for the faint-hearted!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1044258/Pictured-The-horrific-moment-Olympic-weightlifter-turns-elbow-front.html

 
Did somebody seriously think this pic was a good idea?! I mean REALLY!?
 

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/blog/fourth_place_medal/post/Spanish-basketball-team-poses-for-offensive-pict;_ylt=Av4pruhlUdZ30XttWDwy2UjHKZt4?urn=oly,100152

 
Dancer paralysed  :( :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/olympics/2551869/Beijing-Olympics-Chinese-dancer-injured-in-opening-ceremony-rehearsal-paralysed.html

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 14, 2008, 06:21:58 pm
WARNING: What follows is not for the faint-hearted!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1044258/Pictured-The-horrific-moment-Olympic-weightlifter-turns-elbow-front.html

 
Did somebody seriously think this pic was a good idea?! I mean REALLY!?
 

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/blog/fourth_place_medal/post/Spanish-basketball-team-poses-for-offensive-pict;_ylt=Av4pruhlUdZ30XttWDwy2UjHKZt4?urn=oly,100152

 
Dancer paralysed  :( :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/olympics/2551869/Beijing-Olympics-Chinese-dancer-injured-in-opening-ceremony-rehearsal-paralysed.html



I be skeert to look at them links...I trust Kelda, if she says they are not good..they aint good!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 14, 2008, 06:22:38 pm
and thank you thank you thank you for not posting the pics themselves!

{{Kelda}}
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 14, 2008, 06:37:17 pm
Well tight seems to work for the cyclists.....

Only decision they have to make is whether to wear black shorts....

(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/suekat777/blackbicycleshorts.jpg)

......or red shorts

(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/suekat777/redbicycleshorts.jpg)

Uh, I vote for red. ...  ;D
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 14, 2008, 06:54:59 pm
Uh, I vote for red. ...  ;D



I am SHOCKED....you sure??!!



 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: ;)
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 14, 2008, 07:05:02 pm


I am SHOCKED....you sure??!!



 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: ;)

Yeah, right. Y'all probably elbow me out of the way to get to the ballot box!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 14, 2008, 07:16:12 pm
Yeah, right. Y'all probably elbow me out of the way to get to the ballot box!  :laugh:

well everyone knows red is my favorite color... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 14, 2008, 07:37:00 pm
Yeah, right. Y'all probably elbow me out of the way to get to the ballot box!  :laugh:

Outta way!!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 14, 2008, 07:41:27 pm
Outta way!!

*Jess holding her eye*

DANG Del! Watch the elbows! that is gonna leave a mark!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 14, 2008, 08:05:08 pm

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 14, 2008, 09:08:29 pm
Geez! And they claim gay men are c*ckhounds! We ain't got nuthin' on you two!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 14, 2008, 11:21:58 pm
Geez! And they claim gay men are c*ckhounds! We ain't got nuthin' on you two!  :laugh:

what you talking about "You two"? DEL is the one throwing elbows up in here!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 14, 2008, 11:39:22 pm
"I prefer to see the men play without shirts. When male players train they traditionally choose to wear a longer boardshort to their knees."--McPeak

"Women choose to wear a two piece bathing suit because it is the least restrictive uniform possible." --McPeak

"Not only are you battling the heat of the sun, but you are diving around in the sand." --McPeak

"Imagine the feel of sand inside your clothes combined with sweat. I can't think of anything worse." --McPeak

ok so MEN dont' care about sand inside their clothes? Men don't find shorts so restrictive they can't play volleyball? I guess men are just tougher and can focus better...

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: David In Indy on August 15, 2008, 12:08:25 am
"I prefer to see the men play without shirts. When male players train they traditionally choose to wear a longer boardshort to their knees."--McPeak

"Women choose to wear a two piece bathing suit because it is the least restrictive uniform possible." --McPeak

"Not only are you battling the heat of the sun, but you are diving around in the sand." --McPeak

"Imagine the feel of sand inside your clothes combined with sweat. I can't think of anything worse." --McPeak

ok so MEN dont' care about sand inside their clothes? Men don't find shorts so restrictive they can't play volleyball? I guess men are just tougher and can focus better...



 ??? ???

What on earth are you talking about Jess?  ???
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 15, 2008, 12:29:49 am
??? ???

What on earth are you talking about Jess?  ???

Nascar!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 15, 2008, 01:15:26 am
I'm listening to the National Anthem right now as our girl Nastia wins the all around gold for women's gymnastics and Shawn won silver leaving that little Chinese girl for bronze.  I didn't think they could do it, seeing as how the judging was cutting the Chinese breaks all through the early rounds.

And it's also a feel good moment considering how many stories are now rising about the ages of the Chinese 'women'.  Their own bloggers and docs on their stats from earlier competitions that people have show He to be about 14.

Really pisses me off, but nothing can be done.  You go to a country where such corruption is rampant, you can't expect them to adhere to a true Olympic spirit.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Katie77 on August 15, 2008, 02:02:10 am
"I prefer to see the men play without shirts. When male players train they traditionally choose to wear a longer boardshort to their knees."--McPeak

"Women choose to wear a two piece bathing suit because it is the least restrictive uniform possible." --McPeak

"Not only are you battling the heat of the sun, but you are diving around in the sand." --McPeak

"Imagine the feel of sand inside your clothes combined with sweat. I can't think of anything worse." --McPeak

ok so MEN dont' care about sand inside their clothes? Men don't find shorts so restrictive they can't play volleyball? I guess men are just tougher and can focus better...



??? ???

What on earth are you talking about Jess?  ???


ditto...ditto.......what the hell ARE you on about Jess ???... especially the McPeak bits....???

Did you get all outa sorts lookin at those red shorts........???
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Fran on August 15, 2008, 02:36:29 am
I'm listening to the National Anthem right now as our girl Nastia wins the all around gold for women's gymnastics and Shawn won silver leaving that little Chinese girl for bronze.  I didn't think they could do it, seeing as how the judging was cutting the Chinese breaks all through the early rounds.

What an awesome finish!  Gold and silver!  I was worried when the judges seemed to be giving Nastia lower scores than she deserved, but it ended well.  Good for Nastia and good for Shawn.  The Russian who ended up in 4th place was pretty impressive, too. 

I am so looking forward to the rest of the gymnastic competitions.  I'm psyched!

By the way, Nastia's going to SMU -- just like Lashawn.  Maybe she'll pledge Tri Delt.  :)
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 15, 2008, 08:16:21 am
ditto...ditto.......what the hell ARE you on about Jess ???... especially the McPeak bits....???

Did you get all outa sorts lookin at those red shorts........???

McPeak is a member of the Olympic volleyball team and she is answering a question about why the women wear bikinis. I thought we were talking about the clothes the Olympians are wearing... :-\
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 15, 2008, 08:59:12 am
I'm listening to the National Anthem right now as our girl Nastia wins the all around gold for women's gymnastics and Shawn won silver leaving that little Chinese girl for bronze.  I didn't think they could do it, seeing as how the judging was cutting the Chinese breaks all through the early rounds.

I never see this stuff. By the time it comes on TV on the East Coast I'm too tired to stay up and watch it.  :(  But I saw both of them on the Today show this morning, and I'm very happy for them!  :D

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And it's also a feel good moment considering how many stories are now rising about the ages of the Chinese 'women'.  Their own bloggers and docs on their stats from earlier competitions that people have show He to be about 14.

Really pisses me off, but nothing can be done.  You go to a country where such corruption is rampant, you can't expect them to adhere to a true Olympic spirit.

Kinda pisses me off, too. As far as I'm concerned, the Chinese do not deserve that gold medal for women's team gymnastics. They cheated.

At the same time, I'm also kinda amused by the naive brazenness of the Chinese assuming that they could get away with this shit and not get caught.

China, welcome to the rest of the modern world!

Oh, yeah. Last evening I did a little internet research on the Canadian divers Alexandre Despatie and Arturo Miranda. I was familiar with Alex and knew he is incredibly hot, but so is Arturo. ...  :P
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Katie77 on August 15, 2008, 09:08:15 am
McPeak is a member of the Olympic volleyball team and she is answering a question about why the women wear bikinis. I thought we were talking about the clothes the Olympians are wearing... :-\

OK OK OK.....Very sorry.....excuse my ignorence, havent taken much notice of the names of the competitors. And your post makes perfect sense now.

So obviously someone else has asked the same question we did, about the bikinis.

I wish you yanks would get ahead of China in the medal tally. You're the only ones who can do it. Maybe in the track and field you will do it, I hope so. That would piss them right off.....
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: optom3 on August 15, 2008, 10:49:35 am
What an awesome finish!  Gold and silver!  I was worried when the judges seemed to be giving Nastia lower scores than she deserved, but it ended well.  Good for Nastia and good for Shawn.  The Russian who ended up in 4th place was pretty impressive, too. 

I am so looking forward to the rest of the gymnastic competitions.  I'm psyched!

By the way, Nastia's going to SMU -- just like Lashawn.  Maybe she'll pledge Tri Delt.  :)

I am not even American, but with a daughter in gymnastics the skewed voting made my blood boil.The American girls particularly Nastia were marked down, quite blatantly so.
The Russian girl should have have taken bronze.

The Chinese should have their team medal removed, That is what would happen if drug tests prove positive, they are so flagrantly flouting the rules.There was an article on the age of one of the girls in the team, which was circulating the internet,but it has now been removed!!!  The girl was only 12 earlier in the year, so I guess Chinese years must be  a bit like dog years.!!

It sends out all the wrong signals to let them get away with it all. My daughter and her coach were discussing, (early days,)  if she continues at the same pace, whether she would compete in London in 2012, but she would only be 14, she can't understand why some can and some can't.

It is so difficult to instill  good and honest sportsmanship into my children, when they witness arguably the best games in the world, which appear corrupt through to the core.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: LauraGigs on August 15, 2008, 11:18:14 am
I am not even American, but with a daughter in gymnastics the skewed voting made my blood boil.The American girls particularly Nastia were marked down, quite blatantly so.
The Russian girl should have have taken bronze.

Totally!  (And the NBC commentators — they kept talking U.S. and China, U.S. and China. And both Russian competitors last night did really gorgeous routines. I don't think they even gave us the last Russian girl's floor exercise score.)

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The Chinese should have their team medal removed, That is what would happen if drug tests prove positive, they are so flagrantly flouting the rules.There was an article on the age of one of the girls in the team, which was circulating the internet,but it has now been removed!!!  The girl was only 12 earlier in the year, so I guess Chinese years must be  a bit like dog years.!!

Yep.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: LauraGigs on August 15, 2008, 04:24:07 pm
A live update from the '67 Summer Bro-lympics!*

(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn108/LauraGigs/Brolympics.jpg)

"That victory scream ― that is the scream that rang in his ears 4 years ago not once but twice.

This is a very aggressive position. He likes to be in this position ― he doesn't go out that fast.

This is why he is so so good.  He knows how to do this just perfectly.  His real key is that pump.  It just blisters the field.  Looking very good and very much in control.

You see him right there . . .  a combination of speed off the blocks and that Greg Louganis (http://www.umich.edu/~msjrnl/backmsj/110695/loug.html)-like entry.  Like I said, that low center of mass so he can get in and pop up right away.  He's quick off those blocks.  Watch him.  Just explodes ― he has that perfect entry.  You see that?

That's where he's so good.  Nice tight and low and then look.  Quick pop up there, you 'll see this, boom!  And then once he comes up he has a narrow stroke . . ."



*Actual NBC commentary from the Men's 100m Freestyle Competition August 14, 2008.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on August 15, 2008, 07:13:10 pm
Which persons are in that pic?
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: optom3 on August 15, 2008, 07:42:37 pm
A live update from the '67 Summer Bro-lympics!*

(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn108/LauraGigs/Brolympics.jpg)

"That victory scream ― that is the scream that rang in his ears 4 years ago not once but twice.

This is a very aggressive position. He likes to be in this position ― he doesn't go out that fast.

This is why he is so so good.  He knows how to do this just perfectly.  His real key is that pump.  It just blisters the field.  Looking very good and very much in control.

You see him right there . . .  a combination of speed off the blocks and that Greg Louganis (http://www.umich.edu/~msjrnl/backmsj/110695/loug.html)-like entry.  Like I said, that low center of mass so he can get in and pop up right away.  He's quick off those blocks.  Watch him.  Just explodes ― he has that perfect entry.  You see that?

That's where he's so good.  Nice tight and low and then look.  Quick pop up there, you 'll see this, boom!  And then once he comes up he has a narrow stroke . . ."



*Actual NBC commentary from the Men's 100m Freestyle Competition August 14, 2008.

Your post made me chuckle, could you not have stopped the frame a few milliseconds earlier.It would have been good to judge the body angle as they hit the water.
Legs satright, and of course not too deep on entry.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 15, 2008, 07:55:49 pm
LOL!!

Good job, Laura!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 15, 2008, 09:25:57 pm
I wish you yanks would get ahead of China in the medal tally. You're the only ones who can do it. Maybe in the track and field you will do it, I hope so. That would piss them right off.....

I don't care who does it as long as it's not the Chinese.  We're pretty good at track and field.  We'll see what happens.

I don't blame the Chinese girls for this debacle.  10-15 years from now, if China keeps getting Westernized, there will be - mark my words - some sad Sports Illustrated article about one of these girls who will confess how - as a child of 12-14 - she was made to lie about her age so she could compete.

She's in China!  What are they going to do?  Say no?  In one story, I guess was meant to be inspiring but sounded more like child abuse to me - one little gymnast wanted to quit.  She was a long way from home, away from her friends and family, subjected to a harsh disciplined athletic program day in day out and she finally broke down and called the people she thought she could rely on, who loved her and would help her.  Her parents.  She called and asked to come home.  They said no.  :( >:( >:(

She was a little girl.  Who was she going to turn to next?

And now?  So what if she's a champion?  She's a stranger now to the people who should have been the most important in her life and probably on some level feels betrayed by them.

Sad and tragic. 

What's worse is that the whole world is caught up in not saying anything bad about a 'host' while they are in their country, and so remain silent.  Luckily the journalists aren't as polite.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Brown Eyes on August 15, 2008, 09:40:22 pm

I agree that it's absolutely not the fault of those little Chinese girls.  How could it be?  I feel terribly sorry for them.  They thought they did their best and it becomes a big scandal.  And they're sooo young... it would be really hard to deal with this kind of scrutiny at that age.

It's the fault of the adults and the government who were using them.  Even if the girls are 16, they're still nothing but children really.  The scandal really should fall on the shoulders of the trainers, coaches and government that would manipulate them.

All the girls did was train really hard and become very good athletes just like they were supposed to.  Even if they're technically too young, they are very good athletes as individuals, and they really can't be faulted for that.

I do think it amounts to a form of child abuse to put children in a situation like this... where they're open to ridicule and international scrutiny (in addition to whatever training regimens might or might not be good for them physically and emotionally).

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: optom3 on August 15, 2008, 10:16:11 pm
I don't care who does it as long as it's not the Chinese.  We're pretty good at track and field.  We'll see what happens.

I don't blame the Chinese girls for this debacle.  10-15 years from now, if China keeps getting Westernized, there will be - mark my words - some sad Sports Illustrated article about one of these girls who will confess how - as a child of 12-14 - she was made to lie about her age so she could compete.

She's in China!  What are they going to do?  Say no?  In one story, I guess was meant to be inspiring but sounded more like child abuse to me - one little gymnast wanted to quit.  She was a long way from home, away from her friends and family, subjected to a harsh disciplined athletic program day in day out and she finally broke down and called the people she thought she could rely on, who loved her and would help her.  Her parents.  She called and asked to come home.  They said no.  :( >:( >:(

She was a little girl.  Who was she going to turn to next?

And now?  So what if she's a champion?  She's a stranger now to the people who should have been the most important in her life and probably on some level feels betrayed by them.

Sad and tragic. 

What's worse is that the whole world is caught up in not saying anything bad about a 'host' while they are in their country, and so remain silent.  Luckily the journalists aren't as polite.

I heard that story about the little girl whose parents would not let her come home.She was portrayed as the hope for improving the whole families future.I could not supress a cynical quip, along the lines of what family, she hasn't had any real contact with them since she was 3.
We are however dealing with a country who decreed women were allowed to have only one child, and where accidental 2nd children were left in street gutters to die !

I have to keep a careful eye on my kids tennis and gymnastics  coaches to make sure they ar not piling too much pressure on.There is a fine line between encouragement and boot camp pressure.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 15, 2008, 10:49:11 pm
Tell you what, that whole business of medal tally by country is another thing that pisses me off.

I realize it's unavoidable, and perhaps it's even human nature to do this sort of thing, so I can't even really blame the media for it, but I still think it's contrary to what I believe is supposed to be the spirit of the Olympics.

Like, what, Country A is better than Country B because Country A's athletes win more medals? Bullshit.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: LauraGigs on August 15, 2008, 10:54:28 pm
I agree about the young gymnasts; they probably have some interesting tales to be told if the chance ever comes.

China must have some talented gymnasts 16 and over.  But they were passed over in favor of these young ones, losing their chance to represent on the world stage.  What were they — over the hill?  I feel the worst for them.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 15, 2008, 11:01:25 pm
Tell you what, that whole business of medal tally by country is another thing that pisses me off.

I realize it's unavoidable, and perhaps it's even human nature to do this sort of thing, so I can't even really blame the media for it, but I still think it's contrary to what I believe is supposed to be the spirit of the Olympics.

Like, what, Country A is better than Country B because Country A's athletes win more medals? Bullshit.

yeah and I always feel so BAD for the countries that have never won one...but they show up anyway..

one DID win this time though...(I dont remember which one though)
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 15, 2008, 11:05:12 pm
yeah and I always feel so BAD for the countries that have never won one...but they show up anyway..

That's the spirit of the Olympics! It's sort of what I like best about the opening ceremonies, when you watch all the athletes parade in, and you see a group that's maybe only half a dozen--or even fewer--representing some country that most geographically challenged Americans have never even heard of, and you know they have practically no chance of winning anything, but there they are, so brave and proud!  :D
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 15, 2008, 11:11:49 pm
That's the spirit of the Olympics! It's sort of what I like best about the opening ceremonies, when you watch all the athletes parade in, and you see a group that's maybe only half a dozen--or even fewer--representing some country that most geographically challenged Americans have never even heard of, and you know they have practically no chance of winning anything, but there they are, so brave and proud!  :D

those are the stories I would like to watch but you have to wade thru so much crap that I just lose interest.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 16, 2008, 12:54:05 am
That's the spirit of the Olympics! It's sort of what I like best about the opening ceremonies, when you watch all the athletes parade in, and you see a group that's maybe only half a dozen--or even fewer--representing some country that most geographically challenged Americans have never even heard of, and you know they have practically no chance of winning anything, but there they are, so brave and proud!  :D

That's why I love to watch the Olympics, especially the opening ceremonies.  As one of the commentators said, "For some countries, this [the opening ceremonies] IS their Olympics."

They mentioned a couple of stories that bring tears to my eyes - the young African swimmer - can't recall his country- last Olympics or so who had just learned how to swim.  He wasn't an Olympic caliber swimmer, he was literally a beginning swimmer, yet there he was, dead last, struggling to finish, long after everyone else had packed up and gone home so to speak.  People stayed to watch and cheer him on.  Another person, from some island country coming in dead last in a race in the Mexico City Olympics I think.  Asked why he kept on, he remarked, "My country didn't send me 7000 miles to start the race, they sent me 7000 miles to finish the race."

Now that's the spirit.

I believe I read a story on the current Zimbabwe swimmer - the woman - who said her country was going through such turmoil, that she thought they weren't really concerned about sports and her win (in another meet).  But her family told her the opposite.  When people of her country heard she had won for them, they were dancing in the streets and cheering they were so proud.

You see the Iranian, Palestinian and Afghani athletes, read about Muslim women who keep training through all the death threats they get for daring to show their legs and their persons in front of strange men.  You know about sledders?lugers?  from Serbia/Croatia who literally ran through a war zone, dodging snipers to get to the games.

The enormous effort they make to be there, knowing they probably won't win a thing but yet they show and they should be proud and respected no matter their abilities.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 16, 2008, 01:43:11 am
They mentioned a couple of stories that bring tears to my eyes - the young African swimmer - can't recall his country- last Olympics or so who had just learned how to swim.  He wasn't an Olympic caliber swimmer, he was literally a beginning swimmer, yet there he was, dead last, struggling to finish, long after everyone else had packed up and gone home so to speak.  People stayed to watch and cheer him on.  Another person, from some island country coming in dead last in a race in the Mexico City Olympics I think.  Asked why he kept on, he remarked, "My country didn't send me 7000 miles to start the race, they sent me 7000 miles to finish the race."

Now that's the spirit.

I remember hearing the story about the runner, too. There is a person with more guts and grit than I will ever have!  :)
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on August 16, 2008, 09:17:35 am
When I was getting ready to go to bed last night, I turned on the TV News. I learned that China had won... but that it used kids to do so! The child was something like 13, instead of being the legal age of 16!

That reminded me of my thread in which it talks about China abusing children in order to get them to become Olympians! Did anyone see that or hear that?
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 16, 2008, 12:23:51 pm
Tell you what, that whole business of medal tally by country is another thing that pisses me off.

I realize it's unavoidable, and perhaps it's even human nature to do this sort of thing, so I can't even really blame the media for it, but I still think it's contrary to what I believe is supposed to be the spirit of the Olympics.

Like, what, Country A is better than Country B because Country A's athletes win more medals? Bullshit.

I think it's meant to imply that - or that's what people think it means - but it might just be a harmless tally.  Some people are just bean counters.  They like numbers, stats.  It's everywhere you go.  When we were on IMDb people were counting the money BBM made, how long it was showing, how many theaters.  Look here on this board.  We have 1000, 2000, 20000 post 'clubs'.  Stuff like that doesn't really matter to me, but other people like it.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: horo04 on August 16, 2008, 12:31:28 pm
Olympics?  I couldn't care less...that is if your American or Chinese.  Us Canadians can't even get 1 medal as of yet.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on August 16, 2008, 11:13:33 pm
Horo04, no medals are needed when you decently respect life, but  China does NOT respect humans!!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: horo04 on August 16, 2008, 11:25:06 pm
Actually scratch that...I guess we just won a couple of medals.  I guess I'll watch now....*jumps on bandwagon* !!GO CANADA GO!!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on August 17, 2008, 01:18:50 pm
Big baby. They should give it to the guy who came in 4th and erase his name from the records.

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/news?slug=reu-wrestling&prov=reuters&type=lgns

Compare that to the French gymnast who was so thrilled with his bronze. He was crying and looked like he was about to puke in excitement at one point.


I also love this guy – Meet Stany the Stingray – Good on him I say – an enthusiastic Olympian, and that’s what its all about at the end of the day. He went knowing he hadn't a prayer of winning his heat let alone the final but swam a personal best…. Sure it was 10 seconds slower than the winning time in the heat but hey – its still a PB for him!

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/olympics/article.html?in_article_id=266415&in_page_id=310

WARNING: What follows is not for the faint-hearted!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1044258/Pictured-The-horrific-moment-Olympic-weightlifter-turns-elbow-front.html

 
Did somebody seriously think this pic was a good idea?! I mean REALLY!?
 

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/blog/fourth_place_medal/post/Spanish-basketball-team-poses-for-offensive-pict;_ylt=Av4pruhlUdZ30XttWDwy2UjHKZt4?urn=oly,100152

 
Dancer paralysed  :( :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/olympics/2551869/Beijing-Olympics-Chinese-dancer-injured-in-opening-ceremony-rehearsal-paralysed.html



and thank you thank you thank you for not posting the pics themselves!

{{Kelda}}

Oh and Jess. only the forst pic here is a bit yucky the others are fine - the warning was only for the first one but on reading my post agaion I see thats not very clear.


The brits have done well over the weekend, sailing, rowing gymnastics... we've done fab!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 17, 2008, 01:43:46 pm
oh my goodness, the wrestler? I saw that on the news. I guess I can understand how frustrated he had to be but he is too old to have no self restraint like that...
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on August 17, 2008, 01:56:57 pm
I know I mean come on have you hissy fot somewhere else...

The female Russian gymnast didn't have when one of her horse jumps wsnt allowed cos she went before the green ligt and she could have won gold..

http://olympics.thestar.com/2008/article/478954 - interetsing article about Saudi Arabia.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on August 17, 2008, 05:46:15 pm
Oh also - just saw that the 33 yo German female got silver on the vault - good on her!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Katie77 on August 17, 2008, 06:58:10 pm
Well I certainly would not EAT at the Olympics..........Heres whats on the buffet.......

(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/suekat777/chinesebuffet5.jpg)

(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/suekat777/chinesebuffet4.jpg)

(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/suekat777/chinesebuffet3.jpg)

(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/suekat777/chinesebuffet2.jpg)

(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/suekat777/chinesebuffet1.jpg)
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on August 17, 2008, 08:15:57 pm
Thank goodness I did NOT go to those China 2008 Olympics so to eat bugs!

And hopefully no such bugs in the USA now at those restaurants.

One is now opened as high class in Vancouver... so bugs are sold there to eat; did you see my thread?


Au revoir,
hugs!

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 18, 2008, 11:36:08 pm
Poor Nastia, poor Alicia.  Both got screwed by more favoritism shown the Chinese.

I don't understand why they can't protest a judge's scoring.  When they obviously miss things - they have film right there - or are showing blatant favoritism, they never get called on it.

What a ripoff.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 18, 2008, 11:48:16 pm
well I tell you that pole vaulting was sad... :P :P

our woman talked trash then couldn't back it up....that Russian woman walked all over her.

OUCH...
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 18, 2008, 11:48:29 pm
U.S. Men's saber team kicked ass though.  Nearly kicked champion France's ass.  ;D
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 18, 2008, 11:49:01 pm
well I tell you that pole vaulting was sad... :P :P

our woman talked trash then couldn't back it up....that Russian woman walked all over her.

OUCH...

Her coach though, he was a shit to her.  Talk about negative reinforcement.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 19, 2008, 12:00:32 am
Her coach though, he was a shit to her.  Talk about negative reinforcement.

yeah he was cold.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Fran on August 19, 2008, 12:39:45 am
Her coach though, he was a shit to her.  Talk about negative reinforcement.

I bet he didn't realize the cameras were on him.

Poor Nastia, poor Alicia.  Both got screwed by more favoritism shown the Chinese.

I don't understand why they can't protest a judge's scoring.  When they obviously miss things - they have film right there - or are showing blatant favoritism, they never get called on it.

What a ripoff.

Why can't they just give out two golds and a bronze?  Why have a tie-breaker rule anyway?  Other Olympic sports allow ties.

Nastia handled the situation extremely well, in my opinion.  She was so poised accepting the silver.  I know I would have been fuming.

It seems that gymnastics judging needs to be revamped yet again.   Maybe instead of not allowing judges from countries that have gymnasts competing in the event (the way it is now), they should include a judge from each country represented in the particular competition and just throw out the highest and the lowest scores.

Maybe the viewing of slow-motion replays should be a mandatory part of judging (if it isn't already).  A second, more critical look before a score was given surely couldn't hurt.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: David In Indy on August 19, 2008, 12:55:24 am
Oh my god, I can't stop looking at those food pictures Sue posted up there. I'm absolutely repulsed by them, but at the same time strangely fascinated. Currently I'm trying to figure out what is in that metal pan in front of the person on the left in the Dog Brain soup picture. What is that? Some kind of meat, but is it the dog brains? Or something else? And those lizard legs are quite disgusting and interesting too. It looks as if they have been deep fried and somebody poured mayonnaise on top of them. Hmmm. Is it the whole lizard on each stick, or is it many different legs? Strange looking, isn't it?
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: David In Indy on August 19, 2008, 12:56:27 am
And those seahorses look as if they've been burned to a crisp. :P

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Fran on August 19, 2008, 01:00:54 am
I'd play it safe and stick with white rice. No buffet for me.   :)
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: David In Indy on August 19, 2008, 02:12:03 am
I'd play it safe and stick with white rice. No buffet for me.   :)

I hear ya Fran!

In one of those countries they eat fish while they are still alive. I read an article about it once. They'll actually cut into the fish while the gills are still moving and the fish is flipping around. Animal abuse in my opinion. Terrible.

I try to have total respect for other cultures, but there is just something totally wrong about eating fish while they are still alive. I suppose there must be a reason they do it, but I'll never understand it. And not only is it animal abuse, but it's as disgusting as hell!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Katie77 on August 19, 2008, 02:51:44 am

Now that Ive made you all sick, heres a few more......looks like no animail is safe over there........what happened to just plain ol fried rice......


(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/suekat777/dogliver.jpg)

(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/suekat777/goatlungs.jpg)

(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/suekat777/grilledsnake.jpg)
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: David In Indy on August 19, 2008, 03:14:01 am
Eww, that snake looks like it hasn't been fully cooked. Notice the pink coloring.

Believe it or not, I've tasted snake before. Rattle snake. I had a taste of it in Arizona. Now don't roll your eyes.... PROMISE you won't roll your eyes!...... but it tasted like chicken! Well, a gamey version of chicken. Hard to describe, but it wasn't too bad at all. :)

But the picture of that snake up there looks like it hasn't been fully cooked. It's still pink!

The snake I tried was deep fried in batter.

The dog livers and goat lungs look downright AWFUL!! So do the silk worms. Yuck! :P



Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Katie77 on August 19, 2008, 05:08:10 am


Believe it or not, I've tasted snake before. Rattle snake. I had a taste of it in Arizona. Now don't roll your eyes.... PROMISE you won't roll your eyes!...... but it tasted like chicken! Well, a gamey version of chicken. Hard to describe, but it wasn't too bad at all. :)



I know this is completely off topic, but when you said "it tasted like chicken"....I had to send this cartoon I got recently....

(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j141/across82/lesbofrogs.jpg)
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 19, 2008, 10:54:59 am
Why can't they just give out two golds and a bronze?  Why have a tie-breaker rule anyway?  Other Olympic sports allow ties.

Nastia handled the situation extremely well, in my opinion.  She was so poised accepting the silver.  I know I would have been fuming.

It seems that gymnastics judging needs to be revamped yet again.   Maybe instead of not allowing judges from countries that have gymnasts competing in the event (the way it is now), they should include a judge from each country represented in the particular competition and just throw out the highest and the lowest scores.

Maybe the viewing of slow-motion replays should be a mandatory part of judging (if it isn't already).  A second, more critical look before a score was given surely couldn't hurt.


Nadia Comaneci and Bart Connor were on the Today show this morning discussing just some of these points.

Re: the controversy over the ages of the Chinese "women" gymnasts, I hadn't really thought about it, but at some point that age for competition was raised. Nadia mentioned that she was only 14 years old when she competed.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 19, 2008, 06:59:08 pm
ok here is my pet peeve and the reason I dont' watch the Olympics much.

It is tape delayed, not live, so why do they not have the events organized so you can sit and watch the entire finals and see who wins? For example, I was watching last night and they were showing the womens pole vault....they spent ten minutes on the event, leading up to the finals, they showed the bronze winner and that left two to go...and they switched over and showed some guys running hurdles!!! ARGH! I was so mad...why not just SHOW THE LAST TWO POLE VAULTS!!?? THEN go to the hurdles...

that is the main reason I don't watch more....the total disorganized and illogical coverage..
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Katie77 on August 19, 2008, 07:16:22 pm
Gotta agree with you there Jess....Even here in Australia where we have only a 2hour time difference to Beijing, some of the televised events we are getting are delayed and its really pissing us off.

If Australians are in the finals, luckily, we are getting most of them live, but much of the other stuff is delayed.

Actually, there has been a big uproar over here about the telecast and how higgly piggly it is. On the first Saturday of events, the TV station stopped transmitting the games in the afternoon for two hours to put on a live football match.....there was such a negative response to that,that they didn't do it again on the second Saturday.

You would think that they get four fucking years to organise their telecast, and  it still dont look right...
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 19, 2008, 07:42:23 pm
Gotta agree with you there Jess....Even here in Australia where we have only a 2hour time difference to Beijing, some of the televised events we are getting are delayed and its really pissing us off.

If Australians are in the finals, luckily, we are getting most of them live, but much of the other stuff is delayed.

Actually, there has been a big uproar over here about the telecast and how higgly piggly it is. On the first Saturday of events, the TV station stopped transmitting the games in the afternoon for two hours to put on a live football match.....there was such a negative response to that,that they didn't do it again on the second Saturday.

You would think that they get four fucking years to organise their telecast, and  it still dont look right...

I know!

Higgly piggly describes it perfectly!

I want them to just show the finals....unless there is some good story from the semifinals...but even then tell it in ORDER! don't jack us around!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 19, 2008, 08:43:35 pm
ok here is my pet peeve and the reason I dont' watch the Olympics much.

It is tape delayed, not live, so why do they not have the events organized so you can sit and watch the entire finals and see who wins? For example, I was watching last night and they were showing the womens pole vault....they spent ten minutes on the event, leading up to the finals, they showed the bronze winner and that left two to go...and they switched over and showed some guys running hurdles!!! ARGH! I was so mad...why not just SHOW THE LAST TWO POLE VAULTS!!?? THEN go to the hurdles...

that is the main reason I don't watch more....the total disorganized and illogical coverage..

It's called a cliffhanger, Jess. The network is afraid some people will switch on, see pole vaulters, and change the channel, because they want to see something else.  So  if they make it known they're flipping between sports like movies do these days when there are multiple storylines, people will be forced to sit through most of it so they can see their favorite part.  You like pole vaulters?  Want to see the finals?  You'll have to sit through hurdlers to do it.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on August 19, 2008, 08:52:34 pm
China is still stopping many news, even blogs from Olympians doing them there, it was shown on TV News yesterday!

China said so in order to protect China, as well as individuals from themselves, it said!!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 19, 2008, 09:12:01 pm
Well, I'm very happy that this evening I'm getting to some of the finals of the men's 3-meter springboard diving. As I write this, the gorgeous French Canadian diving god Alexandre Despatie, who took the silver medal in this event in Athens, is currently in second place. The handsome American Troy Dumais is in sixth place with two dives remaining.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on August 19, 2008, 09:15:56 pm
Jeff, that Canadien-francais, Alexandre Despatiefrom Québec, said that he now will seek to be in the next Olympics in London, England!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 19, 2008, 09:20:13 pm
Can you say 'suck up to China?'.

Jeez, the Chinese springboard diver makes a blatant error, feet wide apart on his dive and 3 judges still give him a 10.

Why don't they just give the Chinese the gold and quit wasting everyone's time by pretending there's a real competition?  >:(
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: cmr107 on August 19, 2008, 09:22:23 pm
Jeff, I watched men's diving last night and thought of you when I saw Alexandre Despatie.  :)

I just had to leave for a while, have they already shown the gymnastics event finals tonight?
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 19, 2008, 09:25:17 pm
Jeff, I watched men's diving last night and thought of you when I saw Alexandre Despatie.  :)

I just had to leave for a while, have they already shown the gymnastics event finals tonight?

All I've seen as of now is some running and the men's diving.

According to the commentators, Alex has just nailed the Silver--second Olympics in a row.  :)

Troy Dumais finished sixth for the third consecutive Olympics.  :-\
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 20, 2008, 12:47:55 am
Nicole Kidman Prompts Olympians' Sail to Victory

Natalie Finn Tue Aug 19, 2:53 PM ET

Los Angeles (E! Online) - Nicole Kidman's got the golden touch.

A phone call from the Australian actress helped spur two of her countrymen to victory Monday in the men's 470 class sailing competition at the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing, gold medal winner Malcolm Page tells Melbourne's Herald Sun.

After making tracks in the preliminary rounds, Page, partner Nathan Wilmot and their 4.70-meter-long fiberglass dinghy—named the Australia, after Baz Luhrmann's upcoming epic starring Kidman and Hugh Jackman—also finished first in yesterday's medal race, beating out teams from Great Britain and France for the top spot on the podium.

But despite their nautical tribute to Kidman, Page says that he didn't get to speak to her when she first rang him up because he saw the unknown number and let her call go to voice mail.

"I was getting breakfast and thought, 'Ah, I just don't want to talk to her today,' so I bumped it, then two seconds later there was a message from Nicole wishing us good luck," the Aussie athlete said.

But, like a sane person, he called her back before the race.

"Yes, I ended up returning her call," Page said. "She was very happy."

When asked whether Kidman's well-wishing helped spur his and Wilmot's ultimate victory, Page was more inclined to attribute winning the gold to skill, training and good conditions—but hearing the Oscar winner's kind words certainly didn't hurt.

"It does go a long way, don't worry about that," Page said. "She was very surprised that we do have a tradition of naming our boats after her movies, and she's just really stoked to be part of a team."

The team's previous boats have included the Dead Calm and Days of Thunder.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20080819/en_celeb_eo/24627
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 20, 2008, 07:29:00 am
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080819/capt.03b7bce3ccbb4c3a81cc37112d1a56d3.beijing_olympics_athletics_womens_100m_hurdles_olyat516.jpg)

but.....but.....but...what the heck??! How can this be? The girl with LESS clothes lost! the winner had all that wind resistance and..and...RESTRICTED movement (what with actual SLEEVES in her top and her shorts all the way down to the top of her thighs...)

I feel like the sun has risen in the west...how can this be?!  How did the girl in the bikini LOSE like that? She was streamlined and could MOVE freely!!

I just don't know ...
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on August 20, 2008, 11:27:54 am
The Jamacian Track team are on fire.... that guy Usain Bolt is simply awesome!

One of the commentators for the BBC is Micheal Jordan and it was intersting to get his take and immediate reaction (you even saw footage of himm watching the race!) of Usain Bolt breaking his world record...
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on August 20, 2008, 02:10:24 pm
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080819/capt.03b7bce3ccbb4c3a81cc37112d1a56d3.beijing_olympics_athletics_womens_100m_hurdles_olyat516.jpg)

but.....but.....but...what the heck??! How can this be? The girl with LESS clothes lost! the winner had all that wind resistance and..and...RESTRICTED movement (what with actual SLEEVES in her top and her shorts all the way down to the top of her thighs...)

I feel like the sun has risen in the west...how can this be?!  How did the girl in the bikini LOSE like that? She was streamlined and could MOVE freely!!

I just don't know ...

That must have been gutting though.. did you see the actual race - she was way in front and clipped the hurdel and gave each of the medals away. Tje pictures of her just sitting on the track, dejected.... eek!

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XySvRYIh9Tg[/youtube]


[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew0rxyS5t_4[/youtube]

Did you hear about the 10km South African swimmer Natalie du Toit? She lost her leg after being hit by a reckless driver in 2001. Shes a multi Paralympics medal winner but she was in the normal olympics and was really gunning for a medal... She qualified for the 2008 Beijing Olympics after finishing fourth in the 10km open water race at the Open Water World Championships in Seville, Spain. Her time was only 5.1 seconds off the winner.
 
She ended up being 16th, 1:22.2 minutes behind the winner. She will also take part in the 2008 Summer Paralympics - gutsy girl - maybe she'll come back to do better in the 2012 Olympics.....

Maybe she'll even do as good as Phelps - in Athens she got 5 swimming golds & 1 silver ...Maybe she'll go on to be more successful than Britian's amazing Tanni Grey-Thompson who has 11 golds, 4 silvers and one bronze at 4 olympics in athletics....

The 10K swimming race is quite exciting - you can watch part of it at http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/live_action/default.stm?lmpid=b00cs7j8&sid=7534972
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on August 20, 2008, 03:39:30 pm
Big baby. They should give it to the guy who came in 4th and erase his name from the records.

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/news?slug=reu-wrestling&prov=reuters&type=lgns

Compare that to the French gymnast who was so thrilled with his bronze. He was crying and looked like he was about to puke in excitement at one point.


ahahahahaha!!! Good on the Olympic Commiittee!!! He got stripped of his medal!

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/wrestling/news?slug=ap-wre-medalstripped&prov=ap&type=lgns


Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 20, 2008, 09:54:06 pm
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080819/capt.03b7bce3ccbb4c3a81cc37112d1a56d3.beijing_olympics_athletics_womens_100m_hurdles_olyat516.jpg)

I felt sorry for Lolo.  She had a rough childhood and moved around all her childhood, until high school when she put her foot down and told her parents she wasn't moving anymore because she wanted to compete in track and get to college. 

So she stayed with various foster families so she could finish high school and get her scholarship I guess to LSU.

Shit, that's hard.

That was her foster mother and sister - I think - in the stands, their flag ready to wave - she had been the favorite coming into this and was on her way to a gold and just tagged that 2nd to last hurdle and lost out completely on medaling.

The look on their faces was tragic.

Lolo couldn't believe it.  She stayed kneeling on the track for a long time, disbelief on her face.  She had guts though.  She faced a camera and said with good grace that she 'normally hits a hurdle once or twice a year, and it just sucks that it just happened to be this time around'.

Then she went in the back and cried.

She showed much better grace than that football player's fiancee who was the favorite in the 200 m {?} when she ran out of steam, and lost blamed a muscle cramp, though she didn't so much as rub her leg after she lost.

EDITED TO ADD:  Shame about Lolo also, she's so beautiful, the commercial endorsements would have come flying in for her to make her a fortune.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 20, 2008, 10:23:24 pm
Another guy I like - down to earth - Walter Dix.  Moved up to take the bronze medal after silver and bronze medal winners were disqualified in their heats.

His agent was thrilled, "You got a bronze medal!" she gushed.

He replied, underwhelmed, "I still lost."

My kinda guy.  ;D
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: BelAir on August 20, 2008, 11:11:55 pm
Wow I was surprised to see 17 pages after I clicked on the poll from the forum front page!

 :)

I watched the opening ceremony and that's it.  I know, I'm the only one in the world, right?  Well, the frequent yahoo.com updates drive me crazy how they make it sort of 'soap-operay' and where I work is very international - so I hear updates all the time...  And mainly I don't watch b/c I can't bear the commericals and the announcers.  Not because I dislike the athletes or anything....

So I guess when I clicked "no i don't like sports"  I meant "no, I dislike watching sports..."

 ::)

I can't believe they're almost over though.

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 21, 2008, 07:58:54 pm
Just heard on the news that they (didn't hear who exactly) are opening an investigation on the ages of the Chinese gymnasts.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 21, 2008, 08:04:14 pm
for those that may have missed the equestrian events...


[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3--mgg7QL8&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 21, 2008, 08:41:19 pm
I always manage to catch dressage and jumping.  I never manage to catch cross country which is really thrilling.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: optom3 on August 21, 2008, 09:51:24 pm
I find the T.V coverage here so hit and miss. I did not have any idea that Britain had its best year for medals in 100 years. No mention of any of that here.
I only found out because we get an English newspaper here on  Sunday.Until then I thought only USA, China and the odd Russian were competing.!!

I know back in England from what friends tell me, that the T.V coverage has been much more consistant.
Now I know England needs to cover more countries sa we don't get an enormous haul of them ourselves.
It just would be nice to see more general airing here.
I also know that there is a big time difference, but I somehow managed to miss all the tennis.However at least I got to see the gymnastics and swimming.So can't grumble to much.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on August 21, 2008, 10:00:50 pm
China does NOT let out much news, by blocking the USA news sites... and others still, optom!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: optom3 on August 21, 2008, 10:03:30 pm
China does NOT let out much news, by blocking the USA news sites... and others still, optom!

But it must let out some as the BBC have shown far more of the olympics than has been shown here.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Artiste on August 21, 2008, 10:09:48 pm
Only some optom! Some journalists have been physically beaten or put in jail, menaced, etc., by China, so say reports which continue!

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on August 22, 2008, 02:59:12 pm
Do you know what is especially exciting to watch I've learned - the BMXing..

It's amazing - you have to be extrmely skilled and fit to do that. Such a shame our Brit girl Shanaze reade (the world champion by far) didn't win after she clipped someones bike - but as she said I came here to get the Gold... and so I went all out to get it, I'm sad it didn't pay off but what can I do.

You can see avideo of the final here - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/cycling/7575946.stm

Also Usain Bolt is amazing! A trhird gold & world record! Did you see the end of it - he beat the netherlands crossing the line even though he was jogging after the person he handed the baton to!!

again - you can see a vid here http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/athletics/7576737.stm

And glad to see Belgium get a medal to get them off the mark on the medals table in the 100m womans relay... serves Jamaica and GB for being too cocky! Blooming GB dropped the baton on both the male and female 100 relay.... ugh!

Oh also...
This: http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/news?s ... p&type=lgn is my new favorite story.

Kicked out bc of your underpants?? How insane is that?!?! The coach did a good job taking one for the team, though.

And this coach is a d*ck!

http://jezebel.com/5039064/first-time-olympians-coach-criticizes-her-for-taking-silver
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on August 22, 2008, 05:53:48 pm
I find the T.V coverage here so hit and miss. I did not have any idea that Britain had its best year for medals in 100 years. No mention of any of that here.
I only found out because we get an English newspaper here on  Sunday.Until then I thought only USA, China and the odd Russian were competing.!!

I know back in England from what friends tell me, that the T.V coverage has been much more consistant.
Now I know England needs to cover more countries sa we don't get an enormous haul of them ourselves.
It just would be nice to see more general airing here.
I also know that there is a big time difference, but I somehow managed to miss all the tennis.However at least I got to see the gymnastics and swimming.So can't grumble to much.

really? You didn't know how well we were doing?! C'mon the Brits!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 22, 2008, 07:45:07 pm
Do you know what is especially exciting to watch I've learned - the BMXing..

It's amazing - you have to be extrmely skilled and fit to do that.
Such a shame our Brit girl Shanaze reade (the world champion by far) didn't win after she clipped someones bike - but as she said I came here to get the Gold... and so I went all out to get it, I'm sad it didn't pay off but what can I do.

You can see avideo of the final here - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/cycling/7575946.stm

Oops.  Me and my friends at work were laughing at this newest 'sport'.  It looks like it takes the skill of a 10 year old boy.  We have 13 year olds racing on higher hilly ground than that track out in the country.  And the contestants wear these heavy huge helmets like motocross wannabes.  Seen the helmets the regular bicyclists wear?  How about the equestrians who are riding cross country jumping and racing at up to 20 mph on a 1 ton animal?

Silly sport, IMO.

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 22, 2008, 07:52:05 pm

Wow, what a difference.

The skies of Beijing - before and after:

http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/08/blue_skies.php

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: optom3 on August 22, 2008, 11:56:58 pm
really? You didn't know how well we were doing?! C'mon the Brits!

No, both me and husband were gobsmacked when we saw the Sunday paper.They hardly get a mention here. I have not seen one Brit. medal being won.Have seen a heck of a lot of the womens beach volleyball, which I can't stand. None of the equestrian events, no rowing.The gymnastics coverage was good, but that was about it for me, apart from a bit of mens diving,purely for the voyeur aspect. A fine way to end the day !!!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: David In Indy on August 23, 2008, 12:16:30 am
No, both me and husband were gobsmacked when we saw the Sunday paper.They hardly get a mention here. I have not seen one Brit. medal being won.Have seen a heck of a lot of the womens beach volleyball, which I can't stand. None of the equestrian events, no rowing.The gymnastics coverage was good, but that was about it for me, apart from a bit of mens diving,purely for the voyeur aspect. A fine way to end the day !!!


I've been hearing quite a bit about the British athletes, but only because I frequently visit the BBC website. Fiona is quite right Kelda, scarcely anything is mentioned here about the British teams. It's a shame too, because many of us over here would like to hear how the other teams are doing, as well as have a chance to cheer them on sometimes.

The BBC even had a HYS forum question about the British athletes. The question was something like "Do you think the success of the British athletes will inspire more winning athletes in London's 2012 Olympics?" I'm paraphrasing but it was something like that.

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on August 23, 2008, 04:54:44 am
Oops.  Me and my friends at work were laughing at this newest 'sport'.  It looks like it takes the skill of a 10 year old boy.  We have 13 year olds racing on higher hilly ground than that track out in the country.  And the contestants wear these heavy huge helmets like motocross wannabes.  Seen the helmets the regular bicyclists wear?  How about the equestrians who are riding cross country jumping and racing at up to 20 mph on a 1 ton animal?

Silly sport, IMO.



Have you actually watched it Dela? I thought the same until I actually watched it (because of the Brit girl who is world class in it) and you really do have to take your hat of to these guys... its dangerous high octane and incredibly difficult. You can tell that within seconds of watching it. And I just watched the females not the males which I'm sure is even more dangerous etc... hence the helmets - go have a look using the link I supplied I bet you'll change your mind.

Fiona - did you see little Tom Daley doing the didving - only 14 and world class - that guy is going to be the shining star in doving in 2012.

David - yes the BBC site is very good - thats where I watch a lot of the action because i cant see most of it in real time becasue of the time difference.

Wow, what a difference.

The skies of Beijing - before and after:

http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/08/blue_skies.php



just shows you, eh.. but will Bejing take notice or return to their old ways come Monday morning?
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Fran on August 23, 2008, 09:14:09 am
Here's an interesting article about BMX racing: 

http://expn.go.com/expn/story?id=3490901

Prior to the Olympics, an exact duplicate of the Chinese track was built in Chula Vista, California.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on August 23, 2008, 09:39:59 am
Here's an interesting article about BMX racing: 

http://expn.go.com/expn/story?id=3490901

Prior to the Olympics, an exact duplicate of the Chinese track was built in Chula Vista, California.

Apparently there is an exact replica in Manchester, UK too - the ramp at the start of the Bejing course is apparently unusually steep and hence it was a good idea to work on a similar or exact replica of the route & rtamp.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 23, 2008, 12:00:44 pm
Have you actually watched it Dela? I thought the same until I actually watched it (because of the Brit girl who is world class in it) and you really do have to take your hat of to these guys... its dangerous high octane and incredibly difficult. You can tell that within seconds of watching it. And I just watched the females not the males which I'm sure is even more dangerous etc... hence the helmets - go have a look using the link I supplied I bet you'll change your mind.

Yes, we did.  I and some of my co-workers watched both the men's and women's events.  That's why we thought it was ridiculous.  As for, 'incredibly difficult', eh, I'll reserve judgment on that.  I see 13 year olds doing it every day.  And yes, hey, the little kids also crash and fall off their bikes every day as well.  Only they don't have helmets or pads.

Sorry, I see nothing spectacular, high octane or particularly dangerous about it.

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 23, 2008, 10:33:28 pm

I'm in love.  Matt Mitchum, an Aussie kept his cool, his good looks and his lovely form and robbed China of their men's platform dive gold sweep.

But he did get the opportunity because the Chinese leader choked on his last dive and Mitchum did not.

Good on ya, Aussies!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on August 24, 2008, 05:12:06 am
I'm in love.  Matt Mitchum, an Aussie kept his cool, his good looks and his lovely form and robbed China of their men's platform dive gold sweep.

But he did get the opportunity because the Chinese leader choked on his last dive and Mitchum did not.

Good on ya, Aussies!  ;D ;D ;D

I saw that - pretty amazing.

Oh and ach well we'll have to agreed t disagree on the bmx-ing.. what do you think of the table tennis btw? I think thats more odd than the bmxing!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 24, 2008, 05:14:05 am
I'm in love.  Matt Mitchum, an Aussie kept his cool, his good looks and his lovely form and robbed China of their men's platform dive gold sweep.

But he did get the opportunity because the Chinese leader choked on his last dive and Mitchum did not.

Good on ya, Aussies!  ;D ;D ;D

and you know he is out, right? NBC wouldn't show his family....you notice that? They showed a LOT of other athletes families, mates, and all. Matt's parents and his partner ?Lachlan? was there to see him win!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on August 24, 2008, 05:32:12 am
I didn't know that Jess... BAD NBC...  >:(
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 24, 2008, 05:38:36 am
I saw that - pretty amazing.

Oh and ach well we'll have to agreed t disagree on the bmx-ing.. what do you think of the table tennis btw? I think thats more odd than the bmxing!

the trampoline is the one that made me roll my eyes...
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Katie77 on August 24, 2008, 08:53:51 am
To tell you the truth, I'm glad they are now over.

The TV broadcast was bloody awful, and I started losing interest through the middle of last week.

Congratulations to all the athletes from all over the world, you did well........now go get a proper job.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 24, 2008, 10:15:59 am
To tell you the truth, I'm glad they are now over.

The TV broadcast was bloody awful, and I started losing interest through the middle of last week.

Congratulations to all the athletes from all over the world, you did well........now go get a proper job.


 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 24, 2008, 01:36:20 pm
and you know he is out, right? NBC wouldn't show his family....you notice that? They showed a LOT of other athletes families, mates, and all. Matt's parents and his partner ?Lachlan? was there to see him win!

Woo hoo!!!!!!!!!  My gaydar is SPOT ON!!!  I was - ahem - admiring him as he came out of the pool and as he reacted to his dive scores, waved to the camera and moved back to the pool, my gaydar went off.  Actually it went off first when he was about to make his dive, standing with his back to the pool, he rubbed his palms on his swimsuit to dry them so he could do a handstand.  All of them do it.  My gaydar started going off when he did.  Strange.

As he hugged his coaches and teammates, I was getting the Greg Louganis vibe, too. 

No, I only saw Team Aussie cheering for him, but I didn't think no sign of family was unusual.  Lots of athletes don't have their families there or the media doesn't bother to spotlight them.  But yeah, that sucks if he is the gold-medal winner, cheated the host country of a sweep and they didn't highlight his family and SO.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 24, 2008, 01:41:53 pm
To tell you the truth, I'm glad they are now over.

The TV broadcast was bloody awful, and I started losing interest through the middle of last week.

Congratulations to all the athletes from all over the world, you did well........now go get a proper job.

Trust me, at that level of competition, their bodies will give out soon enough.  They don't have a choice.  You heard Nastia the gymnast when asked if she will appear in London in 2012 (just 4 years away, she is only 20), she hedged and coughed and didn't really answer.

Chances are the answer is no.  I listen when the announcers say whether or not the person participating was involved in the last Olympics.  Some were, a lot aren't.

And since the amateur status rule was taken away, being a professional athlete is a job - see football/baseball/soccer/hockey, etc.  ;)
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 24, 2008, 01:42:36 pm
I saw that - pretty amazing.

Oh and ach well we'll have to agreed t disagree on the bmx-ing.. what do you think of the table tennis btw? I think thats more odd than the bmxing!

I agree with you on table tennis.  Bah. 
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 24, 2008, 01:48:29 pm
the trampoline is the one that made me roll my eyes...

They have Olympic trampoline?  :o

Yeah, that's a bit of an eyeroller.  My boy Matt Mitchum the diver though used to be like a junior competitor at trampoline.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on August 24, 2008, 02:18:08 pm
They have Olympic trampoline?  :o

Yeah, that's a bit of an eyeroller.  My boy Matt Mitchum the diver though used to be like a junior competitor at trampoline.

Ive never seen it but the wii version of the olympic trampoline is hard!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 24, 2008, 10:32:25 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/track_field/news?slug=cr-somalirunners082408&prov=yhoo&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/track_field/news?slug=cr-somalirunners082408&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

Somalia sent two athletes. Both came in last...but lort reading their story.

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: optom3 on August 24, 2008, 11:21:00 pm
Can someone tell me why the best athlete in the Olympics who is American,Mr. Phelps esq. was in London for the closing ceremony ???

But for a Led Zep fan, Jimmy Page playing whole lotta love was just the business for me.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Katie77 on August 25, 2008, 02:40:46 am
Here are the top nine comments made by NBC sports commentators so far

during the Summer Olympics that they would like to take back:

1. Weightlifting commentator: 'This is Gregoriava from Bulgaria. I saw
her snatch this morning during her warm up and it was amazing.'

2. Dressage commentator: 'This is really a lovely horse and I speak from
personal experience since I once mounted her mother.'

3. Paul Hamm, Gymnast: 'I owe a lot to my parents, especially my mother
and father.'

4. Boxing Analyst: 'Sure there have been injuries, and even some deaths
in boxing, but none of them really that serious.'

5. Softball announcer: 'If history repeats itself, I should think we can
expect the same thing again.'

6. Basketball analyst: 'He dribbles a lot and the opposition doesn't
like it. In fact you can see it all over their faces.'

7. At the rowing medal ceremony: 'Ah, isn't that nice, the wife of the
IOC president is hugging the cox of the British crew.'

8. Soccer commentator: 'Julian Dicks is everywhere. It's like they've
got eleven Dicks on the field.'

9. Tennis commentator: 'One of the reasons Andy is playing so well is
that, before the final round, his wife takes out his balls and kisses
them... Oh my God, what have I just said?'
 



 



Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on August 25, 2008, 02:18:15 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/track_field/news?slug=cr-somalirunners082408&prov=yhoo&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/track_field/news?slug=cr-somalirunners082408&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

Somalia sent two athletes. Both came in last...but lort reading their story.



wow... inspiring - I had a tear in my eye readin that - I hope they're there at 2012.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: oilgun on August 25, 2008, 03:52:17 pm
Can someone tell me why the best athlete in the Olympics who is American,Mr. Phelps esq. was in London for the closing ceremony ???

But for a Led Zep fan, Jimmy Page playing whole lotta love was just the business for me.

I wouldn't say BEST ATHLETE, all he did was swim!  ;D  He is an amazing swimmer, there's no doubt about that but I'm still not convinced that he should have won that seventh medal.  In the overhead slomo replay, the guy to his left seemed to be touching the wall way before Phelps had his arm extended, even the announcer (CBC) said that the other guy should have gotten it.  Was there ever an explanation for this?
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: David In Indy on August 25, 2008, 03:54:27 pm
Can someone tell me why the best athlete in the Olympics who is American,Mr. Phelps esq. was in London for the closing ceremony ???

But for a Led Zep fan, Jimmy Page playing whole lotta love was just the business for me.

I found that a bit weird too Fiona. He didn't waste any time getting over there, did he?

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 25, 2008, 04:09:28 pm
I wouldn't say BEST ATHLETE, all he did was swim!  ;D  He is an amazing swimmer, there's no doubt about that but I'm still not convinced that he should have won that seventh medal.  In the overhead slomo replay, the guy to his left seemed to be touching the wall way before Phelps had his arm extended, even the announcer (CBC) said that the other guy should have gotten it.  Was there ever an explanation for this?

I wouldn't say "best athlete" either. Whatever happened to the days when the winner of the decathlon was considered the "best athlete"?  ???  >:(
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: oilgun on August 25, 2008, 04:13:05 pm
Here are the top nine comments made by NBC sports commentators so far

during the Summer Olympics that they would like to take back:

1. Weightlifting commentator: 'This is Gregoriava from Bulgaria. I saw
her snatch this morning during her warm up and it was amazing.'

2. Dressage commentator: 'This is really a lovely horse and I speak from
personal experience since I once mounted her mother.'

3. Paul Hamm, Gymnast: 'I owe a lot to my parents, especially my mother
and father.'

4. Boxing Analyst: 'Sure there have been injuries, and even some deaths
in boxing, but none of them really that serious.'

5. Softball announcer: 'If history repeats itself, I should think we can
expect the same thing again.'

6. Basketball analyst: 'He dribbles a lot and the opposition doesn't
like it. In fact you can see it all over their faces.'

7. At the rowing medal ceremony: 'Ah, isn't that nice, the wife of the
IOC president is hugging the cox of the British crew.'

8. Soccer commentator: 'Julian Dicks is everywhere. It's like they've
got eleven Dicks on the field.'

9. Tennis commentator: 'One of the reasons Andy is playing so well is
that, before the final round, his wife takes out his balls and kisses
them... Oh my God, what have I just said?'
 





Are those for real?!  They are hilarious!  I remember one comment from a CBC announcer that made us crack up.  I think it was during one of the early Beach Volleyball matches  (an Olympic sport I don't approve of, but that's another story, lol!), it started to rain and the announcer said: "I'm looking up at the stands and it's a sea of yellow."   He was referring to all the raincoats of course,  but man, it was funny.

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 25, 2008, 04:13:58 pm
I'm in love.  Matt Mitchum, an Aussie kept his cool, his good looks and his lovely form and robbed China of their men's platform dive gold sweep.

But he did get the opportunity because the Chinese leader choked on his last dive and Mitchum did not.

Good on ya, Aussies!  ;D ;D ;D

I wanna be the filling in a Thomas Finchum--David Boudia sandwich. ...  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 25, 2008, 04:20:20 pm

Are those for real?!  They are hilarious!

Very funny, though #9 is suspiciously similar to something the wife of Arnold Palmer, the golfer, is supposed to have said to Johnny Carson once on the Tonight show. Carson's response was, "I bet that makes his putter stand up!"  :laugh:
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: iorhael on August 25, 2008, 04:58:40 pm
I'm in love.  Matt Mitchum, an Aussie kept his cool, his good looks and his lovely form and robbed China of their men's platform dive gold sweep.

But he did get the opportunity because the Chinese leader choked on his last dive and Mitchum did not.

Good on ya, Aussies!  ;D ;D ;D

Hi, I feel can only post a message like this here, but I am absolutely nuts over Matthew Mitcham as well...which makes no sense at all because I am married, and he is gay...not to mention that he is 30-plus years younger than me ;o! But somehow I feel I'm okay in talking about this here...He absolutely won my heart on Saturday night when he upset the almighty Chinese divers and won the gold...I loved him already for his open emotions (which were so refreshing to after seeing all the athletes who stifled them on the podium, including our gal gymnasts) and the fact that he won the gold after going through personal struggles in 2006. I didn't even know at that point that he was gay.

When I found out that out after doing some googling, I admired him all the more. I was extremely miffed at NBC for not showing the medal ceremonies but found it on their site at least. After watching that video, I loved him even more...he was just so wonderful on the podium and especially jumping up on the railing to see his mom and partner, and other Aussies. You gotta love him! He is so adorable...sexy in a cute sort of way...and definitely lovable. I will be following him closely from now on.

Here is the link for the medal ceremonies:

http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/share.html?videoid=0823_SD_DVM_ME_L1291R7

There are also some interviews of him on You Tube...mostly Aussie stations...very little from the US  >:( What I am wondering is whether NBC not mentioning his accomplishment at all after the meet was because he was not a US athlete or because he was gay...
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on August 25, 2008, 05:04:25 pm
welcome iorhael!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: iorhael on August 25, 2008, 06:41:16 pm
welcome iorhael!

Thanks! I've actually been here since March (after seeing Brokeback Mountain for the first time) ;o but just haven't posted yet due to busy-ness....I had a long intro written out, and then lost all of it somehow, and never had the chance to repost. But Matt Mitcham's story has compelled me to post now.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 25, 2008, 06:50:15 pm
I wouldn't say BEST ATHLETE, all he did was swim!  ;D  He is an amazing swimmer, there's no doubt about that but I'm still not convinced that he should have won that seventh medal.  In the overhead slomo replay, the guy to his left seemed to be touching the wall way before Phelps had his arm extended, even the announcer (CBC) said that the other guy should have gotten it.  Was there ever an explanation for this?

The French swimmer coasted in and Phelps took that last 1/2 stroke.  It was extremely close - the commentators later said it was like the distance of a fingernail - but Phelps did touch first.  They don't depend on the eyesight of the guy over the lane.  They have some sort of touch-sensor in the wall which will indicate who touched first.

Phelps did win.  That's why you didn't see or hear about a protest from the French.  It's an electronic device that decides who touches when.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 25, 2008, 06:53:52 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/track_field/news?slug=cr-somalirunners082408&prov=yhoo&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/track_field/news?slug=cr-somalirunners082408&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

Somalia sent two athletes. Both came in last...but lort reading their story.

I was in tears by the time I finished this.  This is what the Olympic spirit is all about.  Notice what the woman said - she still has her pride as an athlete - she said she'd rather they were cheering her on to victory instead of just for giving it a try.

She got recognition regardless.  Her people were happy she was just there representing them - all except the really radical male population that is.  She is incredibly brave to even show up in spite of them.  These women deserve a medal just for that alone.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 25, 2008, 06:59:02 pm
Hi, I feel can only post a message like this here, but I am absolutely nuts over Matthew Mitcham as well...which makes no sense at all because I am married, and he is gay...not to mention that he is 30-plus years younger than me ;o! But somehow I feel I'm okay in talking about this here...He absolutely won my heart on Saturday night when he upset the almighty Chinese divers and won the gold...I loved him already for his open emotions (which were so refreshing to after seeing all the athletes who stifled them on the podium, including our gal gymnasts) and the fact that he won the gold after going through personal struggles in 2006. I didn't even know at that point that he was gay.

When I found out that out after doing some googling, I admired him all the more. I was extremely miffed at NBC for not showing the medal ceremonies but found it on their site at least. After watching that video, I loved him even more...he was just so wonderful on the podium and especially jumping up on the railing to see his mom and partner, and other Aussies. You gotta love him! He is so adorable...sexy in a cute sort of way...and definitely lovable. I will be following him closely from now on.

Here is the link for the medal ceremonies:

http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/share.html?videoid=0823_SD_DVM_ME_L1291R7

Phooey!!!  I can't watch the link because the plug in won't install on my computer.

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There are also some interviews of him on You Tube...mostly Aussie stations...very little from the US  >:( What I am wondering is whether NBC not mentioning his accomplishment at all after the meet was because he was not a US athlete or because he was gay...

I wanna give them the benefit of the doubt and say it was because he wasn't an American, but I have my suspicions...

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 25, 2008, 07:28:12 pm
Phooey!!!  I can't watch the link because the plug in won't install on my computer.

I wanna give them the benefit of the doubt and say it was because he wasn't an American, but I have my suspicions...



when I clicked on there was an option to play without the plug in...it worked ok on mine...that was cool I was grinning all the way thru!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: oilgun on August 25, 2008, 07:30:26 pm
The French swimmer coasted in and Phelps took that last 1/2 stroke.  It was extremely close - the commentators later said it was like the distance of a fingernail - but Phelps did touch first.  They don't depend on the eyesight of the guy over the lane.  They have some sort of touch-sensor in the wall which will indicate who touched first.

Phelps did win.  That's why you didn't see or hear about a protest from the French.  It's an electronic device that decides who touches when.

Thanks, I figured there had to be a sensor thing since there was no challenge.  It was a real nail-biter of a race, I loved it!
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 25, 2008, 07:39:02 pm
when I clicked on there was an option to play without the plug in...it worked ok on mine...that was cool I was grinning all the way thru!

I'm using Firefox, so when I click on the link, it gives me the website, Matt's grinning mug and a big button that says "Video".  I click on it and I get "To play video on Firefox please install Silver something plug in".  There are no other options.  Maybe if I was in Explorer or Netscape...
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 25, 2008, 07:44:53 pm
I'm using Firefox, so when I click on the link, it gives me the website, Matt's grinning mug and a big button that says "Video".  I click on it and I get "To play video on Firefox please install Silver something plug in".  There are no other options.  Maybe if I was in Explorer or Netscape...

well drats...yeah, I am on Explorer...
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 25, 2008, 08:19:25 pm
Heh heh.  Switched over to Explorer 'cause Netscape didn't work.

Matt was so sweet.  He's such a goober.  Looked like a little kid out there, bouncing around, singing Australia's anthem,  just thrilled.

Yes, it was refreshing to see someone so openly surprised and emotional about winning. :)

Bronze medal winner Gleb was glum.  Looks like a poor man's Vin Diesel though.  ;D
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: injest on August 25, 2008, 08:20:58 pm
Heh heh.  Switched over to Explorer 'cause Netscape didn't work.

Matt was so sweet.  He's such a goober.  Looked like a little kid out there, bouncing around, singing Australia's anthem,  just thrilled.

Yes, it was refreshing to see someone so openly surprised and emotional about winning. :)

Bronze medal winner Gleb was glum.  Looks like a poor man's Vin Diesel though.  ;D

yep them Russians are a grim lot...but yes he is a cutie
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 25, 2008, 09:37:15 pm
There are also some interviews of him on You Tube...mostly Aussie stations...very little from the US  >:( What I am wondering is whether NBC not mentioning his accomplishment at all after the meet was because he was not a US athlete or because he was gay...

I wanna give them the benefit of the doubt and say it was because he wasn't an American, but I have my suspicions...

Tell you what, speaking of suspicions and not showing significant people in athlete's lives, did I just miss something, or in all the coverage of Dara Torres and the repeated comments about her age and being the mother of a two-year-old child, was there ever any mention made of a father of her child or of a partner for Torres of either gender?

Granted, I'll gladly give even star athletes some privacy, but still, unless, as I said, I just missed it--repeatedly--I thought that was rather a strange omission.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: optom3 on August 25, 2008, 11:29:01 pm
Here are the top nine comments made by NBC sports commentators so far

during the Summer Olympics that they would like to take back:

1. Weightlifting commentator: 'This is Gregoriava from Bulgaria. I saw
her snatch this morning during her warm up and it was amazing.'

2. Dressage commentator: 'This is really a lovely horse and I speak from
personal experience since I once mounted her mother.'

3. Paul Hamm, Gymnast: 'I owe a lot to my parents, especially my mother
and father.'

4. Boxing Analyst: 'Sure there have been injuries, and even some deaths
in boxing, but none of them really that serious.'

5. Softball announcer: 'If history repeats itself, I should think we can
expect the same thing again.'

6. Basketball analyst: 'He dribbles a lot and the opposition doesn't
like it. In fact you can see it all over their faces.'

7. At the rowing medal ceremony: 'Ah, isn't that nice, the wife of the
IOC president is hugging the cox of the British crew.'

8. Soccer commentator: 'Julian Dicks is everywhere. It's like they've
got eleven Dicks on the field.'

9. Tennis commentator: 'One of the reasons Andy is playing so well is
that, before the final round, his wife takes out his balls and kisses
them... Oh my God, what have I just said?'
 



 





Those are some of the funniest commentary bloopers I have read in a long time,thanks for that.I will go to bed with a smile.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: delalluvia on August 26, 2008, 08:14:19 am
Tell you what, speaking of suspicions and not showing significant people in athlete's lives, did I just miss something, or in all the coverage of Dara Torres and the repeated comments about her age and being the mother of a two-year-old child, was there ever any mention made of a father of her child or of a partner for Torres of either gender?

Granted, I'll gladly give even star athletes some privacy, but still, unless, as I said, I just missed it--repeatedly--I thought that was rather a strange omission.

I think I remember the story they did of her.  I want to say she has a husband who approved of her going back into swimming and helping out with childcare, etc.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: LauraGigs on August 26, 2008, 01:18:35 pm
Here are the top nine comments made by NBC sports commentators so far
during the Summer Olympics that they would like to take back:


Katie, where did you find these??
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 26, 2008, 01:39:52 pm
I think I remember the story they did of her.  I want to say she has a husband who approved of her going back into swimming and helping out with childcare, etc.

Thanks, Del. As I said, it's entirely possible I just missed that part of the story, but my memory is that every story I saw about her dwelt on her age and her being a mom, and I honestly don't remember any mention of a husband or partner.  :-\
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on August 26, 2008, 09:39:01 pm
I got this in an email today:

Here are the top nine comments made by NBC sports commentators so far during the Summer Olympics that they would like to take back:


1. Weightlifting commentator: 'This is Gregoriava from Bulgaria. I saw

her snatch this morning during her warm up and it was amazing.'


2. Dressage commentator: 'This is really a lovely horse and I speak from

personal experience since I once mounted her mother.'


3. Paul Hamm, Gymnast: 'I owe a lot to my parents, especially my mother

and father.'


4. Boxing Analyst: 'Sure there have been injuries, and even some deaths

in boxing, but none of them really that serious.'


5. Softball announcer: 'If history repeats itself, I should think we can

expect the same thing again.'


6. Basketball analyst: 'He dribbles a lot and the opposition doesn't

like it. In fact you can see it all over their faces.'


7. At the rowing medal ceremony: 'Ah, isn't that nice, the wife of the

IOC president is hugging the cox of the British crew.'


8. Soccer commentator: 'Julian Dicks is everywhere. It's like they've

got eleven Dicks on the field.'


9. Tennis commentator: 'One of the reasons Andy is playing so well is

that, before the final round, his wife takes out his balls and kisses

them... Oh my God, what have I just said?'

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: iorhael on August 29, 2008, 04:27:20 pm
I'm using Firefox, so when I click on the link, it gives me the website, Matt's grinning mug and a big button that says "Video".  I click on it and I get "To play video on Firefox please install Silver something plug in".  There are no other options.  Maybe if I was in Explorer or Netscape...

Delalluvia, I am using Firefox on the Mac...I had to download Microsoft Silverlight from the NBC site in order to view the video. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that before. If you don't want to do that (I think its slowed down my Mac a bit), I would go to You Tube....

Well after searching You Tube, I only found one video of the medals ceremony and has been removed due to a third party copyright violation (I am assuming NBC here  >:(
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: iorhael on August 29, 2008, 04:29:05 pm
Tell you what, speaking of suspicions and not showing significant people in athlete's lives, did I just miss something, or in all the coverage of Dara Torres and the repeated comments about her age and being the mother of a two-year-old child, was there ever any mention made of a father of her child or of a partner for Torres of either gender?

Granted, I'll gladly give even star athletes some privacy, but still, unless, as I said, I just missed it--repeatedly--I thought that was rather a strange omission.

I have noticed that too both during the Olympics and seeing her a couple of times on Jay Leno...I think I did see in a recent article in People a brief mention of her husband.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: iorhael on August 29, 2008, 04:30:23 pm
Matt was so sweet.  He's such a goober.  Looked like a little kid out there, bouncing around, singing Australia's anthem,  just thrilled.

Yes, it was refreshing to see someone so openly surprised and emotional about winning. :)

That is what I so loved about him :)
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on September 06, 2008, 10:06:30 am
I'm sitting here watching the paralympics opening ceremony - they did a whole ballet dance ensemble with a little girl who lost her leg in the May earthquakes in China - it was beautiful and it made me cry.

I'm sure it'll be on youtube soon enough.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on September 06, 2008, 11:50:37 am

Over a thousand "cartoon marathon athletes" give an extraordinary performance ahead of the Paralympians' parade at the opening ceremony.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/paralympics/7601974.stm

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on September 06, 2008, 02:03:08 pm
The kids here were AMAZING!

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBYLahldjD8[/youtube]

and this guy has the arms of a god.


He is f*cking amazing!


[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuvG6QviBtw&translated=1[/youtube]

and here is the little girl who made me cry. Who still holds a dream to be a ballet dancer

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqaCQw8ijSs&translated=1[/youtube]

Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Fran on September 06, 2008, 02:26:34 pm

and here is the little girl who made me cry. Who still holds a dream to be a ballet dancer

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqaCQw8ijSs&translated=1[/youtube]

OMG, that one brought tears to my eyes, too.  What a beautiful performance!

Thank you, Kelda, for posting the videos, especially this one.
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on September 11, 2008, 01:30:49 pm
Article - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/06/sports/othersports/06paralympics.html?scp=9&sq=&st=nyt (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/06/sports/othersports/06paralympics.html?scp=9&sq=&st=nyt)- from the NYTimes on how the US treats the Paralympic Athletes as opposed to the other Olympians.


This articlehttp://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/06/sports/othersports/06paraside.html?scp=8&sq=&st=nyt (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/06/sports/othersports/06paraside.html?scp=8&sq=&st=nyt) shows what some other countries do.

Also, another interesting article - The Art and Science of Wheelchair Basketball - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/09/sports/othersports/09wheelchair.html?scp=2&sq=&st=nyt

I heard that two US Iraq vets are competing in this year's Olympics. It is the first time Iraq vets have participated.

 
Title: Re: Are You Planning to Watch the Olympics?
Post by: Kelda on September 13, 2008, 10:05:39 am
The Woman's T54 5000m final at Beijing Paralympics 2008 had a crash involving most of the competitors and it was decided the race would be re-run on Friday.

The same three people one but in a different order..

if you watch it its amazing - and then a stupid judge guy decides to run out in front of the remaining 4 competitors.... d'oh!
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