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Hey dudes and dudettes! Lookin forward to talkin' with you.
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Hey Dude, I don't think we're in Wyoming anymore, Toto...
When I dropped you off at the airport in Sheridan, the next song that played on my friends CD was a bluegrass version of "Somewhere over the Rainbow".
Yeah, I am awake now.....
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a bluegrass version of "Somewhere over the Rainbow"
::) Somehow the powers find a way of sending their message don't they ... :)
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Hey friend - welcome. From all we've heard already, seems like you've been here awhile.
Celeste
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Welcome aboard Wayne ...that Wyoming trip sure looks nice. Your pictures are great
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Thanks Celeste, Victoria, and Truman !! :) :)
Yes, the Wyoming trip was wonderful beyond anything I had imagined...
Now we have some photos from last night's group in Atlanta too! I'll get some of those up soon.
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Good to have you here, friend.
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Nice to have you here, Wayne. Nice pictures in Wyoming, I've always wanted to ride a horse. :D
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Thank you fellers and, well, fellerettes. :) :) :)
I got s'more stuff I want to put up around the place but haven't figured out how to hang it yet!! :laugh: :laugh:
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can't wait to see....Great pics!!
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well will have to pm them...this here forum don't allow no pics like these!!!
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:laugh: Those sound like some..very interesting pictures there.
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8) 8) :P ::)
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8) 8) :P ::)
Haha, guess that means yes ::)
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Just teasing the boys...don't have any pics that I should not have...none at all...nope...
*Jess strolls ultra casually towards the door whistling and looking VERY innocent*
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Just teasing the boys...don't have any pics that I should not have...none at all...nope...
*Jess strolls ultra casually towards the door whistling and looking VERY innocent*
Not sure if we can actually believe that, Jess. :laugh: But it's not like I'm interesting in seeing those pics anyways ::) so it doesn't matter. ;D
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Tamarack, what was your name?? if you don't mind telling...or you could pm and tell Wayne...there are others here from the other place....he knows them
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Well I was reading on a couple's (I think they are English??) blog about their trip to Wyoming...and a sight they saw...*ahem*...LOL ...they posted pics....
::) ::) :laugh: :laugh: :P
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Yeah, Wayne they were saying they were scared someone was going to get hurt....then they realized...THEM boys ain't FIGHTING!!!!....LOL
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Sorry bout that bloody nose - I wiped it on my shirt! :-\
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well a little self control might help too....
control your baser urges.....LOL...
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Having met this young man, I would love to share with you a particular aspect of him I found quite interesting:
Those of you from the Southeastern U.S., or have ever driven thru the home state of Cowboy Wayne (South Carolina, The Fighting Game Cocks), there is no introduction needed to our late, ah, friend, Senator Strom Thurmond.
Our friend Mouk, she speaks 4 lanuages, which I think I told her put me at a disadvantage because mine did not have a name. Cowboy Wayne explained Strom Thurmond to her in French.
I was just glad to be in the car with them.
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All that AND he speaks French??
MY..... :o
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oui, oui!
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LOL!!! ;D :o
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Oui oui whee!! :laugh: :laugh:
I got the most beautiful photo of Mouk in the House at Lightning Flat... She looks so like Jack's mom, about 30 years younger .... :) :'( :-* :)
You are welcome to go up to his room if you want... :'(
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Wayne just runs in .... says Hi...and then runs out....I think he is cheating on us...LOL
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;) I'm seein' Mister Mew on the side. :)
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Oh, Is that his nickname?? See, you are just TRYING to get me to say tacky things...LOL
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Cause now I am curious what you do that MAKES him mew....LOL
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Mba-a---aaaaa----aa!!
:) :)
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Hey, we just hit 50,000 posts!! :) :)
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Hope everybody's having a good day. :)
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Hey, we just hit 50,000 posts!! :) :)
And guess who made that 50,000th post? Moi!! Haha :laugh: Woot, 50,000 posts, go Bettermost!!!!! ;D
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And guess who made that 50,000th post? Moi!! Haha :laugh: Woot, 50,000 posts, go Bettermost!!!!! ;D
Woo hoo!! Go Midnite!!! :) :-* :)
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From this valley they say you are going.
We will miss your bright eyes and sweet smile.
For they say you are taking the sunshine
That brightened our pathway a while.
Come and sit by my side if you love me.
Do not hasten to bid me adieu
But remember the red river valley
And the one who has loved you so true.
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:'( :'( :-* :'(
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Wyomen!! Where'd you go?!? We miss you!! :'( :'( :-* :'(
Please come back!! :) :-\ :) :)
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Wyomen watch!! ??? :-* :'( ???
All Rawlins, all the time... (http://www.rawlinsweather.com/webcam2.htm)
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We sang that at both the funerals of my uncle and several years later his wife. Ths past weekend at the family cook out their 68 year old son played and sang it on the guitar and everyone teared up. Sound familar?
Where is that wyo_men?
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Hey shakes! Mmm... touching how a traditional song can take on new traditions too... :) :'( :)
Yeah, we're hopin' our buddy shows up again soon ... :-\
I did see a car cross the intersection from right to left a few minutes ago, but couldn't say for sure if it was him. ???
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OMG there's somebody working on the car right now!! :D ???
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This is so weird, watching somebody in Wyoming look under the hood!! :laugh:
He's taking something out. ???
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It'll be kinda sad if he fixes the car and drives it off - there's not much else to look at in this scene ! :-\
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That is exactly what i am looking at, we need to get him to go by there at a certain time and wave or moon us or something.
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Did that guy just walk off with the transmission?!? ??? :o :laugh: :laugh:
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That is exactly what i am looking at, we need to get him to go by there at a certain time and wave or moon us or something.
:laugh: :laugh: I been watching for 3 hours ... ??? :laugh:
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Isn't this great? Like we're the security guard, or God or something!! :laugh:
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Dana drives a white truck so that's what we should watch for! :)
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I think he gets off at 5. :)
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I'm donating at PayPal for this!! :) :)
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Remember, he is 2 hours behind us. I wonder if that guy working on the car has any idea he is being watched.
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Yeah we'll have to check at 7 EDT! :) :)
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I wonder if that guy working on the car has any idea he is being watched.
He looked kinda stealthy carrying off that hardware from under the hood ??? :-\
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OMIGOSH HERE HE COMES AGAIN SHAKES!! :o ??? :o
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Missed where he went ... oooh -- oooh ! Train goin' past!!
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Hey there, Wayne!
I just wanted to pop into this very nice space of yours here and say 'Hey!'. I **LOVED** meeting you in Atlanta - it was just the most wonderful experience. Thanks so much for sharing about your Wyoming trip...I think I'm caught up reading your posts here - you truly have a gift for description - it makes me yearn to go....one day, one day, right? Keep any upcoming travel plans like the BBQ or others visible, because I definitely want to do it again.
-Lynne
BTW...WTF are y'all talking about the last couple of pages?? Is there some webcam somewhere you're monitoring?? If there was a link, I missed it, so do tell... ??? ::)
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Hey Lynne!!! Glad to hear from you - yeah, what a great time it was the other night! Thanks so much for bringing it to everyone's attention - I would never have known about it, right here in town ::)
Yes, shakes and I were watching a webcam in Wyoming... just a sec...
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Wyomen watch!! ??? :-* :'( ???
All Rawlins, all the time... (http://www.rawlinsweather.com/webcam2.htm)
Here is the link, Lynne
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It's in Rawlins, WY, home of one of the guys on the Wyoming trip! :laugh:
Truman and I were on an Internet-stake out this afternoon watching to see if Dana's white truck should pass by :laugh:
It's dark right now so there's not much to see, but somebody was working on the car at the sidewalk from time to time. Funny to see a person appear, lift the hood, carry something off and disappear :laugh: Mysterious!! :o
Wyomen watch!! ??? :-* :'( ???
All Rawlins, all the time... (http://www.rawlinsweather.com/webcam2.htm)
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Cool...I'll check that out. I thought that was possibly a link, but was afraid to click it at work...I'm pretty sure I'm already on some list thanks to fan fiction ;)
I'm back in Atlanta the last week of the month for a Suzanne Brockmann readers' event, and I'd love to get together with the Atlanta locals for drinks or dinner or something..it's something like July 26-30.
Suzanne writes in that 'get no respect' genre of 'women's fiction' or 'romantic suspense' and started out as a Harlequin writer, though she's in hardback and quite successful now. The cool thing about her writing is that (to my knowledge) she created the first gay character with a romantic subplot in mainstream romantic fiction. His name is Jules Cassidy and he's a kick-ass FBI agent 'who just happens to smell good' (her words). Although Jules is a recurrirng character, she dedicated the book Hot Target (with Jules' romance) to her son Jason, who is gay. It's a really nice coming-out story - lots of love and acceptance. I contacted her when I first became involved here at BetterMost and she game me permission to reprint it here:
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?topic=378.msg3179#msg3179
The other cool thing about this is that Jules is one of her readers' favorite characters (translate middle America women who read romance novels) and they are clamoring for him to have his own happily-ever-after. She did get some negative feedback about her 'political agenda', but it was small compared to the the positive responses. I'm excited to meet her in person.
I had a really weird/cool experience in Atlanta on Saturday that I want to post in my blog TONIGHT. Check it out when you get a chance and let me know what you think...
Lynne
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re: July 26-30 - great! Let's make sure to get in touch ! And I'll look forward to your blog ... :) :)
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Hey how was the showing at the Fox Theater? Was there a good crowd? Was it warmer than that old, cold time on the mountain? Did you see the marmaset?
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Hey Shakes! Yes, the Atlanta get-together was great! I think I put up some pix somewhere ... lemme see if I can find 'em!
How you dooin'? :)
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Ah, ha! Here's my pix from the meet-up! (Click here to go to the Fox thread :) :) ) (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?topic=2297.msg52333#msg52333)
Also go on forward to page 9 for s'more pix.
We're having a cool grey day for July ... it's nice! :)
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I have hundreds of shots from Wyoming and haven't put those up yet!! I'm looking forward to going through them! :) :)
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I gotta run to a meeting in a minute but glad to hear from you... Talk with you later on!! :) :)
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We are having typical summer weather here, it storms everyday. I miss Wyoming where if you chose you could view the storms from a distance.
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Hey, my counter says I have now been on bettermost more than 24 hrs.!
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:'( :'( :-* The 3rd photo is in the One True House at Lightning Flat... Gave me shivers to see her standing there in the light like that ... :)
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"Woman, behold thy son,
Man, behold thy mother,
You may go up to his room, if you like"
I really look forward to dancing with you again, friend.
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:) :) :) Me too!
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If I leave now, I can be there by 7 pm...
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:D :D When's the Galax festival this year? August? (What the hell happened to...) Do they hold it every year?
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http://www.oldfiddlersconvention.com/
It will be the 7th thru the 12th of August. Bring your danci' shoes, we'll give 'em something to talk about.
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Here's one thing I seen in Wyoming that first day before the rest of y'all came. :)
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Here's me and momma this weekend :) :)
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:laugh: :-* Thass what I meant yeah!!1 :) :-* :)
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Hey Widge, I love the pics :)
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Is that the nice lady who would marry Joachaim Pheonix? Is that how you spel his name?
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And here is a question for you:
Someone from the Wyoming trip has a birthday on Friday. I was thinking all week it was Ohio, but no, she is 30 May. Is it you perchance?
I remember everything, but the details.
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Is that the nice lady who would marry Joachaim Pheonix? Is that how you spel his name?
:laugh: :laugh: That's right! Momma lu-u-uvs him! :blush:
Joaquin, I think. After the wedding he'll be my stepdaddy. :)
Should I change my name? Widge Phoenix. Hmmm... :-\
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And here is a question for you:
Someone from the Wyoming trip has a birthday on Friday. I was thinking all week it was Ohio, but no, she is 30 May. Is it you perchance?
I remember everything, but the details.
No, it's not me! My birthday is this Thursday! :)
Quite a memory you have! When's yours?!
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So...
YOUR BIRTHDAY IS TOMORROW ?!?!?!
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:) Mmhm.
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Well happy natal anniversary! (I'll be 43 on 8/3)
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Thanks, Shakes! I'm on be 48! :)
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A very Happy 48th Natal Anniversary to you. Sincce I am far away and cannot make you a Vidalia Onion Pie, I will send you the recipy insted:
INGREDIENTS:
6 Vidalia onions, thinly sliced
4 eggs, beaten
1 cup sour cream
salt and pepper to taste
1/2 cup unsalted butter
1/4 cup grated Parmesan cheese
1 pinch paprika
2 tablespoons hot sauce
2 (9 inch) pie shells, baked
1/2 cup grated Parmesan cheese for topping
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DIRECTIONS:
Preheat oven to 375 degrees F (190 degrees C).
In a medium skillet, cook onions in butter for about 10 minutes, or until clear and soft; stir often. Reserve juices.
In a large bowl, mix onions with eggs and sour cream. Stir in onion juices, butter and cheese. Add salt and pepper and hot sauce to taste. Make sure all ingredients are well blended and then pour into the 2 pie shells.
Sprinkle grated cheese and paprika on top of pies. Bake in preheated oven for 20 minutes. Lower temperature to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C) and bake for an additional 30 to 40 minutes, or until lightly browned on top. Let cool for a few minutes to settle before slicing.
yum!
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Yum -- sounds great!! I'm not much of a cook but I just might try it!! :P (as in yum!)
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I hear your pretty good with a can opener... :P
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Yeah and now THIS may be the best birthday present yet!! :)
Ex-CIA operative Valerie Plame sues Vice President Cheney, his former aide, Scooter Libby, and presidential adviser Karl Rove. (http://today.reuters.com/business/newsarticle.aspx?type=tnBusinessNews&storyID=nN13183457&imageid=top-news-view-2006-07-13-195701-RTR1DHD3_Comp%5B1%5D.jpg&cap=File%20photo%20of%20former%20diplomat%20Joe%20Wilson%20and%20his%20wife,%20former%20CIA%20agent%20Valerie%20Plame%20in%20Washington%20May%2017,%202006.%20REUTERS/Joshua%20Roberts)
Thank you Valerie you were so sweet to think of me!!! :-* :-* :-*
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Hope it was a good day!!
Jess
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Happy Birthday cowboy Wayne from your neighbor to the south, Front-Ranger (and neighbor in birthdays! Aren't we Cancerians just the best people?) Thanks for the great pics!
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Aren't we Cancerians just the best people?
:) :) yep! [ and sensitive to a fault! :-\ ]
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Let's dance y'all!! :D :D
(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/00067p2g)(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/000686gb)
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Wayne is SUCH a party animal...
I think it is so cute those boys have on the same shoes...you reckon they bought them together??
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Wayne is SUCH a party animal...
I think it is so cute those boys have on the same shoes...you reckon they bought them together??
Ohhhh, I forgot all about that!!! So sweeeeeeeeeeeeet!!
An' that lady is wearin' my dress! >:(
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At last it's here!!! The Brokeback Happy Meal!! :D :P :D (http://pointfiveblog.com/index.php/2005/12/587)
(http://pointfiveblog.com/wp/wp-content/200512/bbmountainadv.jpg)
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Crikey! I just realized that Jack married into the family of the mayor of San Francisco!! :o :o :o
(http://pointfiveblog.com/wp/wp-content/200512/jack.jpg) -> (http://www.annehathawayfan.com/gallery/albums/Captures/DavidLetterman-062706/normal_Letterman-085.jpg) -> (http://www.johnmoretti.com/photos/people/pp_gavin_newsom.jpg)
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evening Wayne how are you today??
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Hey Jess!! I'm doin' good, or at least that's my intention. :) :)
I'm on go get me a hamburgah at the Earl. With fried okra! And I hope they play the Selmanaires again! :) :)
I got a good mid-term review at work today :) First time I ever got a perfect review, actually :)
How's your evening going?
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That girl is SKINNY! You think them boy have been drinking Wild Turkey while shoe shopping?
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Wayne!! where have you been?? Have you been spending time with your "good" friends and ignoring us??
*Sniff*
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:laugh: :-* :laugh: Just hangin' Jess!! How's your day been?
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I have been terrible today...my husband had to dig a big ol trench and repair a water line in this 102 degree heat and I stayed in the ac...LOL...(hey! what could I do?? would it have helped at all for me to be out there sweating just watching??)
bad Jess Bad....LOL
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Hey, Wayne
I am glad you changed your avator back....I like your pretty lil pony!!!
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:laugh: I love my pony! She's so sweeeeeet! :-* :-*
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It'a a MARE?? I am shocked...LOL
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Does she have a name?
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If I loved you,
Time and again I would try to say
All I'd want you to know.
(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/0006kkr0)
If I loved you,
Words wouldn't come in an easy way
Round in circles I'd go!
(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/0006p40d)
Longin' to tell you,
But afraid and shy,
I'd let my golden chances pass me by!
(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/0006qpy3)
Soon you'd leave me,
Off you would go in the mist of day,
Never, never to know
(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/0006ryfz)
how I loved you
(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/0006s3h0)
If I loved you.
(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/0006trqp)
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aw Wayne....{{{{{{{{{WDJ}}}}}}}}}}}}}
s'alright s'alright.....
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:) :'( :-* :)
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"the gods made the animals to suffer in silence but they gave men speech..."
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"...but they gave men speech..."
And the Internets! :)
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no no those is the work of the DEVIL!! LOL...just ask the fundementalists!
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Poignant, Wayne. What a perfect composition of pics and lyrics.
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Hey Joe!!! Thanks .... :) :)
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(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/0006h3rp)
If I loved you,
Time and again I would try to say
All I'd want you to know.
(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/0006kkr0)
If I loved you,
Words wouldn't come in an easy way
Round in circles I'd go!
(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/0006p40d)
Longin' to tell you,
But afraid and shy,
I'd let my golden chances pass me by!
(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/0006qpy3)
Soon you'd leave me,
Off you would go in the mist of day,
Never, never to know
(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/0006ryfz)
how I loved you
(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/0006s3h0)
If I loved you.
(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/0006trqp)
Lovely Wayne! :D Thank You for sharing it. :-*
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Thanks Vickie .... :) :) :'( :-* :) Just came to me this morning all at once't! G'nite and talk w/ya later .... -_- -_-
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I heard a nasty rumor today about Wayne.
I heard he was hanging out with a buncha 'straights' at some 'straight' festival....they were dancing...carrying on in the most blatant manner....really just shoving their lifestyle down peoples throats....why do 'those' people have to flaunt themselves!!
shame Wayne shame!!!!
*Jess runs back to her own thread!!!*
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That was a longgg time ago! Cain't git away with nuthin around here!! :laugh: :laugh:
G'nite y'all!
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LOL!!
Good Night, Jack Nasty uh...Wayne!!!!
you stay away from them yucky 'straights'....they will brainwarsh ya!!!
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Wayne, I think you have just won a coveted spot on my refrigerator door.
Straight people have festivals?
I saw a bumper sticker this morning that said "Quality Health Care Begins With Breastfeeding"
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Quality Health Care Begins With Breastfeeding
Well, I guess we each have our "thing" !! :) ;D :)
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In the immortal words of Ricky Ricardo, there's some 'splainin that needs to be done!! Breastfeeding???
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I haven't actually juxtaposed these yet. Shakes, great job with the posing!!
Hmm ... I should've propped up that elbow. :-\ Still, pretty good eh!! :) :)
Click to embiggen us
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Look at all them good looking men...looking all pensive and stuff!!
Good Morning, sunshine!!!! or Wayne....whichever!!
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Cinematographer I ain't, I rememory looking that picture up on my lap top before we left for that trip but still I am happy with the result.
As for the breast feeding, I think it is probably a good start. I sure am glad I have never had to take a young child to the rest room in public.
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Impressive how similar even the view is, off in the distance ... So glad you thought of that Truman!!
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Now we know who took the picture....how are you today, Wayne...you have sure been quiet lately...you ok?? send me a pm and tell me what is up in your world...
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I haven't actually juxtaposed these yet. Shakes, great job with the posing!!
Hmm ... I should've propped up that elbow. :-\ Still, pretty good eh!! :) :)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f12/MrGulliver/0003q321.jpg) (http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/0004p6w0/s640x480)
I think this picture is just great, guys!! This is one of the best I've seen. Would you consider cross-posting it over in this thread?
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?topic=777.msg12649#msg12649
I love it! So much talent here!
-Lynne
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So glad you like the photo Lynne!! I hadn't originally pointed out that it was taken at BROKENBACK MOUNTAIN in Wyoming. :) :-* :)
I posted it over at the thread you reffed. Thanks!
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Alma: Me and the girls worry about you being alone all the time Ennis. You ought to get married again.
You still go fishin' with Jack Twist? You and him make a really sweet couple.
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shes right ya'll do make a cute couple!!
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Is there something about highways that causes clouds and storms to train? I think this is neet!
P.S.: It's raining!! Yay! :)
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Oh fine!! rub it in!! >:( >:( :'( :'(
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Cowboy Wayne, are you still going to Texas? When Is that? Are you driving or flying? Do you have sunscreen? Do you have a big hat? Do you have water? Do you have tums?
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Some say she came from Mars
Or from one of the
seven stars that shine
at three-thirty in the morning.
WELL SHE ISN'T !!!!!!!
She came from Planet
Claaaaaaaaaaaaaaire
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ROTFLMAO!!
What is this? you are SO random!!
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I always wondered what ol Darth did for a living....a telemarketer huh? of maybe a bill collector!!
That would get me to pay my bills.....
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Hey, here is a funny story for you....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14425689/?GT1=8404 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14425689/?GT1=8404)
the only question I have is what 'inappropiate behavior' are they banning??
:laugh: :laugh: ::)
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Erection is not a behavior; it is a state ;D
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there was one or two cuties in the bunch weren't there!!
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Will you be in Atlanta on the 11th day of the 11th month at 11 AM? I will!
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Hey Shakes! I may be - not sure yet - what brings you to town ?? Love to see you if I'm there!
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Partner has an event to attend that weekend.
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Hey, Wayne...I don't know why I always put this stuff in YOUR thread...I guess cause I think they are funny...
http://enews.earthlink.net/article/str?guid=20060823/44ebd2c0_3ca6_1552620060823-1693759462 (http://enews.earthlink.net/article/str?guid=20060823/44ebd2c0_3ca6_1552620060823-1693759462)
::) ::) :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: ::) ::)
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Where is Wayne????
:-\ :-\
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:D ;D Hey sorry I been busy! I'm around! Thanks for the notes! :)
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ya come in start a thread then WANDER OFF!!
where is the commitment? Where is the love? LOL
we like ancient stuff too...where is OUR Ishtar Gate??
*Sniff*
Wayne doesn't love us best!!
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Heh heh ... "talk" wiff you in a minute Jess!! ;) :-*
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Has any ever actually seen "Ishtar"?
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Barbara did!
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Wayne,
I see you wandering around...why are you not posting?
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Hey, just checking things out before I head home. My home phone is not working - don't know why yet - so I may be out of touch for the weekend ! :-\ :o :'(
If I don't see you for a while, y'all have good holiday and I'll catch you on Tuesday! :)
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So yeah my phone is STILL busted - they called Monday and said they'd come by and take a look at it on Saturday. And I'm like.
SATURDAY?!? Sheesh.
So without any internets on I read the gospel of Matthew. It was pretty good. It seemed to be mostly about common sense. I won't tell you how it ends but I will say I was surprised. :o
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We wondered what happened to you!! Welcome back CW.
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SPOILERS AHEAD! DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT READ THE BIBLE YET!
What surprised me in the gospel of Matthew is how clear Jesus is that his return would occur during that generation. And then at the end, he does return, and says "I am with you always, until the end of the age."
So the notion of an apocalyptic 'Nother Coming yet to come is inconsistent with the gospel of Matthew. The Second Coming already occurred, way back then like he said it would, and that's that.
Now what the "end of the age" meant, and if he has left, or is still here, is left open.
I know there's the Ascension later on in Acts and all that, but that's a different book.
Wayne, sweetie, I stole this from the 'other' place I hope you don't mind...have you just started reading the New Testament? Or is this something you have always done?
Did you notice that the first person he showed himself to after he rose was a woman??
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I hope you don't mind...
Nope! Not at all :)have you just started reading the New Testament? Or is this something you have always done?
I was raised in a Baptist church where we had lots of Bible reading but little bits at a time. Over the last 2 or 3 years I've been more interested in reading a whole book at a time to try to find the main points. What this country really needs is to make Leviticus the law of the land :D*Did you notice that the first person he showed himself to after he rose was a woman??
Yep! And I think he and Lazarus were boyfriends :)**
* just kidding. The book of Leviticus is about bringing sacrifices to the temple. Who ate all that stuff?
** NOT kidding. The book of John says numerous times that "Jesus loved Lazarus." And then it refers to "the disciple whom Jesus loved," but doesn't specify who that was. I think it was Lazarus :)
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WAYNE!! >:( >:(
Don't you know you are supposed to go thru and pick out the stuff you like and ignore anything that doesn't jibe with what YOU want??!! That is what all the churches do! (You are SUCH a rebel...reading the WHOLE thing!!)
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(You are SUCH a rebel...reading the WHOLE thing!!)
;D I know! I'll probably get in trouble but I don't care! ;D
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You are going to find the secrets!! then the Templar people will come after you!!
I always get mad when people want to use the Bible to be mean...they only look at the stuff they WANT to look at and ignore the rest...like all that crap in the Old Testament about Sodom...well, it also says you can't eat shellfish...do they pass laws about shellfish?? Do they picket seafood restaurants?? NOOOOO!! :laugh:
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Hey, was Father Judge gay? He was the chaplain who died at the World Trade Center on 9/11??
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did you see where Brad Pitt says him and Angelina aren't gonna get married til ALL people can get married?? so he is using gay marriage to excuse his unwillingness to commit!! LOL!!
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did you see where Brad Pitt says him and Angelina aren't gonna get married til ALL people can get married?? so he is using gay marriage to excuse his unwillingness to commit!! LOL!!
Wow - that's impressive! And shrewd! ;D
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maybe they are really gay and they want to marry their bf/gf!!!
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :-X
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hmmm...do you think he could play Billie?? in The Front Runner??
who would play Harlan??
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maybe they are really gay and they want to marry their bf/gf!!!
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :-X
:) That must be it, yes!
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If they DO make the Front Runner who do you want to play the leads??
You think they will show that scene in the woods!!?
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:-\ fraid I haven't read front runner! bu-u-ut, the obvious choice for any role is Jake!! :)
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:-\ fraid I haven't read front runner! bu-u-ut, the obvious choice for any role is Jake!! :)
*GASP!!*
I am shocked! LOL..
well it is a story of a young openly gay college student who is trying to go to the Olympics...and he falls in love with his coach a 40 something ex-Marine...
and the scene in the woods?? well, I'll let Dana tell you about THAT!!
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So I guess Jake would have to be the runner....now we need some 40 something actor to be the coach...(and he gets to make OUT with JAKE!!)...bet we could get some volunteers around here huh??
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So I guess Jake would have to be the runner....now we need some 40 something actor to be the coach...(and he gets to make OUT with JAKE!!)...bet we could get some volunteers around here huh??
I'm so glad you asked, Jess!! Yes, I'd be delighted!! :)
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I'm so glad you asked, Jess!! Yes, I'd be delighted!! :)
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
yeah, you would like to order poor Jake around wouldn't you??
(wayne:" Drop and give me fifty!!")
fifty what?? LOL!
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
yeah, you would like to order poor Jake around wouldn't you??
(wayne:" Drop and give me fifty!!")
fifty what?? LOL!
Seven and a half would be plenty ;D
just kidding, just kidding everybody! ::)
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Seven and a half would be plenty ;D
just kidding, just kidding everybody! ::)
that is plenty isn't it!! LOL!!
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Today's reading is Micah 6:8.
He has shown you, O man, what is good.
What does the Lord require of you
but to do justice, and to love kindness,
and to walk humbly with your God?
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ok??
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ok??
Yep! :)
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:) Hey y'all! You can ask anything you want! :)
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:) Hey y'all! You can ask anything you want! :)
Why do men have nipples?
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Why does my purse strap get caught on the lil handle that moves the seat back and forward....I couldn't MAKE it do that if I tried but it does it on its own all the time...then when I get out it jerks me back and I have to GET back in and reach over there and unhook it!
very irritating...
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How come when I drop a coin at work it rolls all the way in the far corner and I have to get all the way on the floor to reach it?
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Why did they pick red for the words of Christ in the bible?? why not green?
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Do fish think?
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The government arrested those guys that bought all the Tracfones because they said you can use them as bombs....but I have a Tracfone and when people drive stupid around me and I have tried every combination I can think of...they never blow up... :-\
What is the number??
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Why does my cat lay on her back and show off her belly but is adament that I not touch it?
Is she just testing me?
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Why can't they just put the price of the car on it and then just sell it?? Why does everything have to be so complicated?
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Why did they pick red for the words of Christ in the bible?? why not green?
It was easier for the monks to make red ink than any other color. Black was the only easier one.
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Do fish think?
I think there was a Mythbusters which demonstrated that goldfish could be trained to go through a maze.
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good!! You are the master!
now...you got the code that will make my Tracfone blow up those guys in the big trucks the ride my bumper??
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Hey Cowboy! Rode down the Blue Ridge Parkway on Sunday from Roanoke to Meadows of Dan, thought about you peddaling your heart out, dodging the boys from Deliverence.
Fall is right behind you, pedal fast!
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:) Purty, shakes!!
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Heh heh. :laugh: :laugh: Just a little photoshopping
(http://www.timesofmalta.com/images/20060919_loc_01.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/me_vs_gutenberg/bitchplease.png)
turns this .... into this! ;D ;D
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Why did they call him flipper when he had no middle finger?
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Hey Cowboy! Rode down the Blue Ridge Parkway on Sunday from Roanoke to Meadows of Dan, thought about you peddaling your heart out, dodging the boys from Deliverence.
Heh - dodgin em? I was lookin for em! :-* :-*
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Heh - dodgin em? I was lookin for em! :-* :-*
squeal for us!!
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sooooooooooooooooo-weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!! :)
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:laugh: :laugh: We are so pathetic!!
(http://pics.livejournal.com/vasco_pyjama/pic/0006ps7k)
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Well now this sounds fun! :)
Get inside Jake Gyllenhaal's pants
(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tmz.com/media/2006/10/brokeback_mtn.jpg) (http://www.tmz.com/2006/10/04/get-inside-jake-gyllenhaals-pants/)
From October 13 -20, the entire wardrobe from the Oscar-winning movie will be up for bid in an online auction on the e-commerce site www.seenon.com.
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;D
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You can see up-to-the-minute photos of my route to and from work here:
http://www.georgia-navigator.com/cameras/85 (http://www.georgia-navigator.com/cameras/85)
Look! There's a Langford Parkway... (I know, they didn't spell it quite right! ;D )
Home is near University Ave, and work is at N Druid Hills.
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Hastert under pressure with Republican sex scandal
(http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/rdonlyres/524C9DEB-D760-4054-B107-CEA8085C052D/141265/4DCF8900B4F043C59F459211CE850482.jpg) (http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/524C9DEB-D760-4054-B107-CEA8085C052D.htm)
Republican sex?!? Ewww, you're right that is gross! :P
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Lovely commute you have, Wayne...
Now, since this is all about me ;) go read my thread in Social Events..I'm so excited I'm about to explode!
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?topic=4568.msg96087#msg96087
-Lynne
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Hello Everyone! This looks like a friendly thread!! Must be cause it's Wayne's! :)
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:) :) Howdy Jason an' Miz Lynne!
Enjoyed reading up on RJ with the AIDS Marathon - thanks!! :)
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How ya doin! Check your email! :)
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It's a good thing you showed up Wayne when you did! I was about to post a tittilating cryptic message to you! ;)
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Titillating?!? Wheee!!! :)
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It's a good thing you showed up Wayne when you did! I was about to post a tittilating cryptic message to you! ;)
AWWW look at your avator!! It is so CUTE!
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:) :) Howdy Jason an' Miz Lynne!
Enjoyed reading up on RJ with the AIDS Marathon - thanks!! :)
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Isn't it beyond cool that she wrote back to me personally and she's going to come by and post???? If you haven't seen Latter Days, you must watch that movie and then you'll understand why I'm flipping out!!
-Lynne
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How come you never hear of anyone getting killed in quicksand anymore? Remember in all those old action movies how they were ALWAYS getting into quicksand...that never happens anymore...
did they stop making quicksand??
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:laugh: :o ??? I don't know, Jess! Now that you mention it, I guess people really should be more careful! :o
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I'd like to know what the hell ever happened to the Metric System. "They" went to all the trouble to teach it to us in school 30 years ago and promised it was coming, (where have I heard that before?)
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wayne I went to the parkway, looking for you, sort of. Beautiful day, pedal fast.
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:D :) :) Mmmmm ... what a beautiful pic Truman!! Thx ... Lessee, when I biked through it was November. Almost Christmas-y for a lot of it... light snow, redbirds perched on wooden fences carrying a little berry and things like that. :)
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:D :) :) Mmmmm ... what a beautiful pic Truman!! Thx ... Lessee, when I biked through it was November. Almost Christmas-y for a lot of it... light snow, redbirds perched on wooden fences carrying a little berry and things like that. :)
ok I will buy the light snow....heck, I'll buy the redbird on the fence....but 'carrying a little berry'??????
:-*
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ok I will buy the light snow....heck, I'll buy the redbird on the fence....but 'carrying a little berry'??????
:-*
;D Yep! On the Blue Ridge Parkway, even the birds go out of their way to look postcard perfect !! :D
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well, ya'll DO seem a friendly bunch....
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I agree with you about Saddam Hussien...it is a 'drumhead trial' ; they already KNEW the results they were gonna get when they went in. I don't like Saddam but this is not right. You saw that the sentence is due in less than 30 days? How can you mount an appeal in that leghth of time....especially when you consider his attorneys being in fear of their lifes.
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Yeah, it seems like a pretty clear mistrial.
Plus I suspect the United States may suffer if Saddam is executed. :-\
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I agree with you about Saddam Hussien...it is a 'drumhead trial' ; they already KNEW the results they were gonna get when they went in. I don't like Saddam but this is not right. You saw that the sentence is due in less than 30 days? How can you mount an appeal in that leghth of time....especially when you consider his attorneys being in fear of their lifes.
Actually he can (and will) appeal it, which could take up to a year, then if the decision is not reversed, the sentance must be carried out in 30 days.
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http://enews.earthlink.net/article/str?guid=20061118/455e9350_3ca6_1552620061118-1196874773 (http://enews.earthlink.net/article/str?guid=20061118/455e9350_3ca6_1552620061118-1196874773)
WAYNE...you gotta read this...
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
they don't have working toilets...but they got giant statues of :o :o ::)
I love that last paragraph...made me laugh out loud!!
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but they got giant statues
:laugh: What? No pix?!? ;D
Ah - Here we go! :)
(http://media.bonnint.net/apimage/de338265-25ea-4ac6-b282-dbf47e597819.jpg)
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Suddenly there was that kind of tipping moment where it was not cool to tell a homophobic Brokeback joke. Suddenly you had to tell nice jokes or do nice parodies or celebrate [the movie] because there was no one to argue with. I really think there is a very powerful aspect to the things you don't notice. You don't notice when the guy at the water cooler pauses and thinks, “I better not tell this joke because I realize that a lot of people have seen this movie and seem to like it, and maybe it's not safe for me to push it here.” (http://www.afterelton.com/people/2006/12/schamus2.html)
- James Shamus
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Wayne thank you for posting that...it is the first time I have seen a really indepth conversation about the Oscar night loss...very cool.
I wish the tipping point had come a bit sooner though.
I HAVE noticed that people down here are using the term Brokeback in everyday conversation. and not in a derogatory way either...I mean not sneering...
like when people see that picture of the stallion sniffing the geldings behind....they say they are going Brokeback on us...
ok maybe that doesn't read right....but it seems less homophobic than what I am used to hearing...the tone I mean
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Like: "You know I ain't queer"
"Yeah, but your Brokeback as hell." :o
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:D :laugh: I like that! What's the point of being gay if you can't have a little fun with it eh?!? :laugh:
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Indeed, that is progress. being gay needent been all serious and stuff. :-*
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:'( The European Union and Cowboy Wayne oppose the death penalty in all cases and under all circumstances. (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=ahgSIagixGlM&refer=europe)
These people went to Libya to help children. Libya has had them on death row for 7 years.
Firing Squad
The defendants were first sentenced in Benghazi in 2004 to face a firing squad. The Benghazi court rejected testimony from Luc Montagnier, the French researcher who first isolated HIV, and from Swiss and Italian scientists. The scientists said the infection started before the nurses worked there.
The Tripoli court refused to allow defense witnesses to testify.
A Libyan court sentenced five Bulgarian nurses and a Palestinian doctor to death on Tuesday
(http://english.alarabonline.org/data/2006/12/12-19/zalsoz/920p.jpg) (http://english.alarabonline.org/display.asp?fname=2006%5C12%5C12-19%5Czalsoz%5C920.htm&dismode=x&ts=19/12/2006%2011:49:29%20%C3%95)
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:D Gah!
The most famous examples of Cargo Cult behavior have been the airstrips, airports, and radios made out of coconuts and straw. The cult members built them in the belief that the structures would attract transport aircraft full of cargo. Believers stage "drills" and "marches" with twigs for rifles and military-style insignia and "USA" painted on their bodies to make them look like soldiers. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult)
The cargo cult has been used as an analogy to describe certain phenomena in the First World, particularly in the area of business. After any substantial commercial success—whether it is a new model of car, a vacuum cleaner, a toy or a motion picture—there typically arise imitators who produce superficial copies of the original, but with none of the original's substance.
The term is perhaps best known because of a speech by physicist Richard Feynman at a Caltech commencement called cargo cult science, which became a chapter in the book Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!. In the speech, Feynman pointed out that cargo cultists create all the appearance of an airport right down to headsets with bamboo "antennas", yet the airplanes don't come. Feynman argued that some scientists often produce studies with all the trappings of real science, but which are nonetheless pseudoscience and unworthy of either respect or support.
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:'( The European Union and Cowboy Wayne oppose the death penalty in all cases and under all circumstances. (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=ahgSIagixGlM&refer=europe)
These people went to Libya to help children. Libya has had them on death row for 7 years.
Firing Squad
The defendants were first sentenced in Benghazi in 2004 to face a firing squad. The Benghazi court rejected testimony from Luc Montagnier, the French researcher who first isolated HIV, and from Swiss and Italian scientists. The scientists said the infection started before the nurses worked there.
The Tripoli court refused to allow defense witnesses to testify.
A Libyan court sentenced five Bulgarian nurses and a Palestinian doctor to death on Tuesday
(http://english.alarabonline.org/data/2006/12/12-19/zalsoz/920p.jpg) (http://english.alarabonline.org/display.asp?fname=2006%5C12%5C12-19%5Czalsoz%5C920.htm&dismode=x&ts=19/12/2006%2011:49:29%20%C3%95)
and the Bulgarian Prime Minister can only say he is disappointed??!
Bulgaria condemned death sentences imposed by a Libyan court on Tuesday against five of its nationals and a Palestinian doctor.
Foreign Minister Ivailo Kalfin called the decision "deeply disappointing."
I think this is one case where a little stronger language is needed! >:(
ridiculous...is Lybia living in the dark ages??
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:D Gah!
The most famous examples of Cargo Cult behavior have been the airstrips, airports, and radios made out of coconuts and straw. The cult members built them in the belief that the structures would attract transport aircraft full of cargo. Believers stage "drills" and "marches" with twigs for rifles and military-style insignia and "USA" painted on their bodies to make them look like soldiers. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult)
The cargo cult has been used as an analogy to describe certain phenomena in the First World, particularly in the area of business. After any substantial commercial success—whether it is a new model of car, a vacuum cleaner, a toy or a motion picture—there typically arise imitators who produce superficial copies of the original, but with none of the original's substance.
The term is perhaps best known because of a speech by physicist Richard Feynman at a Caltech commencement called cargo cult science, which became a chapter in the book Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!. In the speech, Feynman pointed out that cargo cultists create all the appearance of an airport right down to headsets with bamboo "antennas", yet the airplanes don't come. Feynman argued that some scientists often produce studies with all the trappings of real science, but which are nonetheless pseudoscience and unworthy of either respect or support.
this is amazing...I had never heard of this...I mean I know about the joke about someone dropping a coke bottle out of a plane and starting a new religion...but that people these days still do this kind of thing?? You would think we had gotten farther up the evolutionary ladder than that...
(of course I am not saying I understand what you are saying about Feynman??) I think I am missing something...you have to type R E A L slow for me...but I would like it if you would!! :)
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;D Well, the part about Feynman was all quoted from the Wikipedia entry on Cargo cults, but it may be worth taking a skeptical position - if briefly - for all beliefs and habits.
I love the illustration of how tradition can sometimes retain the wrong part of an action - like hoping for a cargo delivery because you're talking into a wooden box shaped like a walkie-talkie that has no electronics inside. You saw somebody get a cargo delivery by doing that, it worked once, so why shouldn't it work again.
I mean, religion, health, science ... sometimes the test is whether it's TRUE, sometimes it's whether it works, sometimes the test is whether it makes life better, sometimes there is no test.
But we shouldn't confuse things that are subjected to one kind of test, e.g., scientific truth, with things that have been subjected to a different test, e.g., bringing fulfilment into life like religion.
Maybe that's getting onto a different topic. Anyhow that's what I'm thinking about now! ::) :laugh: :D
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ridiculous...is Lybia living in the dark ages??
I may be wrong, but my impression is Libya is using them as extortion, asking for money in exchange for their release. Actually that would just be kidnapping and threatening murder I guess.
It's horrible that they have been in jail for 7 years already. You can't give that back, even if they were released (and it looks more likely that they will be executed).
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;D Well, the part about Feynman was all quoted from the Wikipedia entry on Cargo cults, but it may be worth taking a skeptical position - if briefly - for all beliefs and habits.
I love the illustration of how tradition can sometimes retain the wrong part of an action - like hoping for a cargo delivery because you're talking into a wooden box shaped like a walkie-talkie that has no electronics inside. You saw somebody get a cargo delivery by doing that, it worked once, so why shouldn't it work again.
I mean, religion, health, science ... sometimes the test is whether it's TRUE, sometimes it's whether it works, sometimes the test is whether it makes life better, sometimes there is no test.
But we shouldn't confuse things that are subjected to one kind of test, e.g., scientific truth, with things that have been subjected to a different test, e.g., bringing fulfilment into life like religion.
Maybe that's getting onto a different topic. Anyhow that's what I'm thinking about now! ::) :laugh: :D
there is a man down here...havent seen him in a while; that has a little public access show where he tries to debunk evolution...it is pitiful on one level and on another it makes me angry. As if his belief in God will be stronger if he can just convince us that evolution is a fallacy...
I never could understand that....how can what I believe affect what YOU believe? If his faith was really as strong as he claims then it wouldn't matter to him that other people believe in evolution.
and the other thing...99% of the people that are against evolution don't even understand it...you hear them say all the time that "evolution means we descended from apes" and "if we descended from apes why are there still apes?" well evolution DOESN"T say we descended from apes....it says we AND apes had a common ancestor...
which if you think about it is true for people that believe in creationism..according to them,we all descended from God!! :laugh: :laugh: ::)
as you say....confusing things...different tests for different ideas..
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Law, Wayne I am sorry about your ears!
(I know me and Lynne done burnt them plumb off!) ;D
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Law, Wayne I am sorry about your ears!
(I know me and Lynne done burnt them plumb off!) ;D
Ouch! ;D How y'all doing?
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I am needing to get out of this office before the candy gods return with more sugar for my body to process.
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Just got back from a nice weekend with Mom in South Carolina. We went to her church this morning. Their church also hosts a Brazilian church who did some Christmas music today - really wonderful! They sang a couple of Christmas songs in Portuguese and one of the boys played violin. When they started singing, I didn't know it was going to be IN PORTUGUESE!!! :D :D I mean, so heartwarming. The little Baptist church in South Carolina that I grew up in has been hosting a church for Brazilian expats for years.
And the preacher preached about Nathan's message to David: This poor guy just had a half-acre vineyard and the rich guy with hundreds of acres stole it from him. David the rich and poweful king says how awful! Nathan says IT'S YOU YOU JERK!
And the preacher says, can you imagine that happening in our country, in the White House, today?
I confess, I know pride is a sin, but I feel pride in my little church... :)
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its great that you found one thatll accept you? i wish i could find one in my area i might start attending services again
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The drug trial was halted when it was found that it resulted in a higher risk of death. But future drugs may eventually be developed without this side effect. (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ActiveAging/story?id=2750462&page=3)
:-\ That's some side effect!
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With sides like that, I guess folks don't need a middle any more.
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I would be proud, there is no one who can cast a stone at you for that.
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http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/departments/syndicates/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003525096
Finally, a news story that covers all the varied themes of my life: Mars, psychiatry, religion, quick weight loss, and gays in the military.
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The drug trial was halted when it was found that it resulted in a higher risk of death. But future drugs may eventually be developed without this side effect. (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ActiveAging/story?id=2750462&page=3)
:-\ That's some side effect!
I mean!!
I always shake my head at those commercials from lawyers that say "If you have suffered injury or death as a result...." well, are there that many ghosts suing people??
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Oh boy, you are gone come skiing/dancing with us? I can't wait! ;D
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:D I'm pretty sure I can make it, yep! Less'n one of my profs comes up with an emergency.... ::)
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This is indeed awesome news! More to come in Social Events - go there & look soon!
-Lynne
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yay cowboy wayne !
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:-\ I'm no great friend of Saddam Hussein, but I oppose capital punishment under all circumstances. It serves to make killing more socially acceptable.
When THREE of the defendant's lawyers are killed during the trial you've got a mob masquerading as a justice system.
This is not justice or democracy. It is just more killing for revenge. With my current understanding of the facts, I believe it was wrong for the US to hand Saddam over to be killed. It was wrong for us to invade Iraq on false pretenses.
George Bush thinks he has good reason to send his soldiers to Iraq to kill and be killed. Saddam Hussein thought the same thing. They seem like peas in a pod. One difference is what Saddam was convicted for happened 24 years ago, but Bush is doing it now, and accelerating even after the American people have told him to stop.
I mean, we went into another country on false pretenses and killed the leader's children. Is that the kind of model we want to be for the world? How would we feel if the tables were turned and we were the weaker country being invaded, having 6 hours a day of water and electricity for YEARS on end, hundreds of thousands of people killed?
In my opinion we need to do everything we can to make amends for what we have done. Handing over a leader of one faction for execution by another faction is a major step in the wrong direction.
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Everytime I see anything about Saddam the phrase comes into my head...drumhead trial...
why the rush to kill him? what is the big hurry?
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The powers that be are stirring up a lot of bad karma. I agree with you on capital punishment. I see no place for it in my world.
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they broke into 20/20 and said he had been executed...the first thing (almost) asked was "Did they video tape it?" then they talked about how horrible he was and one of the things they dwelled on was ...he liked to watch videotapes of executions.
and you know they don't see the irony (if that is the right word) that HE deserved to die partly because he was so lost to human decency that he liked to see people die...
they justify it to themselves saying they have different motives but I would bet that he lied to himself too....
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I would take it better if they had killed him "because he had it coming" rather than the b.s. they come up with. And yeah, he sure did have it coming, but that was no reason for us to go to war there. Where is Bin Laden tonight?
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sleeping peacefully
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I would take it better if they had killed him "because he had it coming" rather than the b.s. they come up with.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'm trying to figure out my feelings about this.
Right now I think it's that I dislike using what should be an honorable process in a judicial system to justify a foregone conclusion.
It gives me the creeps for Bush to say that Saddam had a "fair trial" when 3 of his lawyers were killed.
What would it take for Bush to question whether Saddam had a fair trial? If 4 of his lawyers were killed? Eight?
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It would require that he admit he made a mistake...or that he would finally begin to know the difference between opinions and facts...
neither one is going to happen anytime soon...
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Don't know about ya'll but I feel SO much safer...
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It's not quite the same, but it reminds me of Yossarian's complaint to the army in Catch-22.
"They're trying to kill me," Yossarian told him calmly.
"No one's trying to kill you," Clevinger cried.
"Then why are they shooting at me?" Yossarian asked.
I mean, Saddam was right - they were trying to kill him, and they did, and people had parties. Yuck!
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the whole thing is a disaster...how it is going to end I don't know...
we are stuck and Bush gets a multimillion dollar library....
how I want him impeached. The violations of our rights, the wiretapping, so many things he has gotten away with...just the very idea that we are at war! Only congress can declare war...we are not at war! we are participating in an Executive branch operation (can't recall the exact term off hand)
Congress just rolled over and let him have his way. This is why I prefer to have the Congress in the hands of one party and the Executive branch in another...
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As you watch the Shiite government hang Saddam in Iraq, remember that the Shiite government hangs gay teenagers next door in Iran.
(http://clarityandresolve.com/ex_gay_kids_iran1.jpg)
(http://clarityandresolve.com/ex_gay_kids_iran2.jpg)
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Thank you for posting those photos, Wayne. I am going to share those with people.
I have been studying on the death of President Ford this week. I thing all in all he was a decent man, I was not happy when he pardoned Nixon, but I was 11 years old at the time and realize now how important it was he did that and agree it was the right thing to do. He lived a long life and was fairly active until the end.
Then compare that to Reagan. Here was a man who wanted to go to war so bad the only thing that saved us I think was Gorbachev on the other side having none of it. In my opinion he did a diservice to people suffering with AIDS, and look how he ended up.
You reap what you sew, George W. Bush.
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Then compare that to Reagan the one who shall not be named.
Exactly!! Ah well - here's to memories of happier times!
;D :D :laugh:
(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/000865zk)
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How come we were such good friends with him back when he was committing the atrocities, but when he stopped killing people we had to invade and overthrow him? ::)
Darn! I guess we'll never know now!! :laugh: :laugh:
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Wayne I hope you don't mind but I posted your pics of the boys over in Anything Goes...they started a thread there on it..
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A course! :) I'll go read...
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Same thing with Darfur, Somalia, The Sudan, all the atrocities going on there, we ignore them. Why?
1. They have no oil.
2. They are Africans, and our history with Africans is sadly one fraught with racism.
Back when George the first invaded Kuwait, I asked why we were going into this tiny country, yet the Baltic states had been overrun by the USSR for years. The reasons then:
1. They have no oil.
2. The USSR had the bomb.
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As you watch the Shiite government hang Saddam in Iraq, remember that the Shiite government hangs gay teenagers next door in Iran.
(http://clarityandresolve.com/ex_gay_kids_iran1.jpg)
(http://clarityandresolve.com/ex_gay_kids_iran2.jpg)
Wayne this is just KILLING me.... :'( :'(
look at them! they don't even reach up to the executioners shoulders! and I think of who got them those white shirts? was it their mothers?? were they allowed to do that last thing for them?
do you know how old they were? what their names were?
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According to Wikinews, their names were Ayaz Marhoni, age 18 and Mahmoud Asgari, age 17, they were hanged 19 July 2006 in the town of Mashhad. They were reported to have been caugt having sex with one another at the age of 16, and were given 228 lashes for other offences. The riot police was called out to prevent the crowd from taking over.
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oh god...
:'( :'( :'(
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It is a New Years miracle....finally two countries in the Middle East come together!!
http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20070101/45989550_3ca6_1552620070101-379667457 (http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20070101/45989550_3ca6_1552620070101-379667457)
who said there would never be peace and understanding over there... :P ;)
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:laugh: ::)
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WHOA!!! ow! I am scared of HER!!
http://enews.earthlink.net/article/str?guid=20061230/4595f250_3ca6_1552620061230-1657359908 (http://enews.earthlink.net/article/str?guid=20061230/4595f250_3ca6_1552620061230-1657359908)
sorry... :-\
;D
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Sheesh! This mornin I was castratin calves. ::)
Fortunately Lillington NC is over near Raleigh! :o :o
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Sheesh! This mornin I was castratin calves. ::)
Fortunately Lillington NC is over near Raleigh! :o :o
No you weren't!!
were you?? whose calves were you castrating?? odd time a year to be out castrating....
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geez if some woman grabbed me there and started to do damage she better run cause id come at her with everyhting i had
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50 stitches! Gud Gawd!
I knew a woman one who proudly claimed to have superglued her x-husbands pecker to his belly while he was passed out. I didn;t ask her for details, just moved away from her.
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Hey Wayne,
I was just over in the old Atlanta Fox Theatre thread and saw your link 'If you love me, you will click here.' So look where I ended up! How'd I miss that before?!?!?!!
Go check the WVa thread for further details ;)
Love,
Lynne
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Why do conservatives hate our troops? :'( :-*
Today the National Review, a leading conservative journal, published their opinion that the problem in Iraq is that American soldiers are lazy.
We don't necessarily require an increase in overall troop strength. We’ve got lots of soldiers sitting on megabases all over Iraq. I don’t know how many guys and gals are sitting in air-conditioned quarters and drinking designer coffee, but it’s a substantial number. - Michael Ledeen, National Review (http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTYxZDcxMzkzNzhiMzFkNTAwMzkxNjE0Y2FkNmM0MTE=)
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oh so not only should we not withdraw but we should broaden the war into Syria and Iran?? wonderful...
and all those crazy soldier sitting around sipping lattes!!
tsk tsk...
this is someone that KNOWS he is safe...he knows he won't pay for the rhetoric he is spewing. OTHER people's children will. It is easy to say what others should do when you have no dog in the fight...
reminds me of a little dog that sets the big dogs to fight so he can sit and watch...
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Conservatives are an incredibly diverse group. Many of them are good about hiding it, though, because 1. many of them hate diversity and try to pretend they don't show it, and 2. they know how important it is to unite to accomplish things. Everybody knows compartmentalized thinking and hypocrisy are characteristic of conservative thinking, but the same is true of the conservative body politic. Conservatives are forever plastering over divisions among themselves. And one conservative group hides their motives from another group. Rich Republicans who don't want the tax laws tampered with try to blend in with middle class and poor fundamentalists with opposite financial interests.
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just say what they have to to get along...
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:D :D :D
And I am telling you
Im not going
You're the best man I'll ever know
There's no way I can ever go
No, no, there's no way
No, no, no, no way I'm living without you
Im not living without you
I dont wanna be free
Im staying
Im staying
And you, and you
You're gonna love me, oohh ooh mm mm
You're gonna love me
And I am telling you
I'm not going
Even though the rough times are showing
There's just no way, there's no way
We're part of the same place
We're part of the same time
We both share the same blood
We both have the same mind
And time and time, we've had so much to see and
No, no, no, no, no, no
Im not waking up tomorrow morning and finding that there's nobody there
And I mean there's no way
No, no, no, no way Im living without you
Im not living without you
You see there's just no way, there's no way
Tear down the mountains
Yell, scream, and shout like you can say what you want
Im not walking out
Stop all the rivers, push, strike, and kill
Im not gonna leave you
There's no way I will
And I am telling you
Im not going
You're the best man I'll ever know
There's no way I can ever, ever go
No, no, no, no way
No, no, no, no way Im living without you
Oh, Im not living without you, not living without you
I dont wanna be free
Im staying, Im staying
And you, and you, and you
You're gonna love me
You're gonna love me, yes you are
Ooh ooh love me, ooh ooh ooh love me
Love me, love me, love me, love me
You're gonna love me
;D ;D ;D
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Wayne...you a nut!
but you are OUR nut
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Wayne, I am sending you this message in real time, you are sitting five feet from me, we are in real time. I am so glad to spend some time with you again. Jess, have your ears been burning????? :o
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as a matter of fact YES!
what have ya'll been saying about me!!
>:( >:( >:(
I thought ya'll were my friends!
>:( >:(
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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I TWAT I TAW A PUDDY TAT!!
named WAYNE!!
Here kitty kitty kitty...HERE kitty kitty KITTTTYYYY...
where are you?
are you home? did you have FUN?
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:) I had a wonderful time Jess!! I think we all did. :D :-*
Hope you're having a good evening! So y'all got some snow? Atlanta's just gonna get rain and some chilly weather after it - no snow! :(
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we didn't get the snow...We were ROBBED!! all we got was sleet...
but that's ok.. :D
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wayne i still cant wait till we can spend some more real time together ! i especially enjoyed our time int he bar in the resort lol
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So good to see you again friend, you are susck a bubbly happy soul. Not an elf by any stretch, I am glad I got to see you this weekend.
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:laugh: We can go huntin in November! Shoot us an elf! :laugh:
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??? :o ??? ??? ??? :o :o :o dont tell our sekrits wayne !
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;D :D :D :-* :-* :-*
http://www.stardoll.com/en/dolls/397/jake_Gyllenhaal.html
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what if you don't like the underware he is wearing?
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:laugh: :laugh: He can borrow mine from our dancin shot! :laugh:
Hey Shakes you better eat your calamondin! May not get any more from California this year!! :o :'( :'(
Overnight temperatures dropped below freezing in parts of California's San Joaquin Valley, where many of the state's oranges and lemons are grown. (http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/171384)
We may have to rely on the bumper crop of citrus from Atlanta this year!! :o
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:laugh: We can go huntin in November! Shoot us an elf! :laugh:
lol! I have images in my head now!!
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:o Weird stuff - fun!!
http://www.britam.org/namesakes.html
Hebrew Celtic names
This site claims that Cymru, the Welsh name for Wales, can be traced to Gomer, one of the tribes of Israel
Scotland, by way of Ysgoth, to the Goths, to Gad, another tribe of Israel
Iberia and Britain to the Hebrews
Etymology is so cool!!! :D :D
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:o Weird stuff - fun!!
http://www.britam.org/namesakes.html
Hebrew Celtic names
This site claims that Cymru, the Welsh name for Wales, can be traced to Gomer, one of the tribes of Israel
Scotland, by way of Ysgoth, to the Goths, to Gad, another tribe of Israel
Iberia and Britain to the Hebrews
Etymology is so cool!!! :D :D
so Gomer Pyle was named after a tribe of Isrealites??!!
:o
I have a friend in England that was telling me about some Welsh names....they are all consonants!! Srrwlyzzddre
I told him we should have a telethon or something and but them some vowels!!!
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http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,405.msg3449.html#msg3449
:-*
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:) What a great mom! :)
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Stomach cancer likely cause of Napoleon's death
http://enews.earthlink.net/article/hea?guid=20070117/45adad50_3ca6_1552620070117-1729134690 (http://enews.earthlink.net/article/hea?guid=20070117/45adad50_3ca6_1552620070117-1729134690)
well thank GOD that is settled...I can move on with my life now.... :P
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Stomach cancer
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:o Weird stuff - fun!!
...Etymology is so cool!!! :D :D
In more odd-word news, I had cause on Tuesday to look up 'Nanook' in wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanook
In Inuit mythology, Nanook or Nanuq was the master of bears, meaning he decided if hunters had followed all applicable taboos and if they deserved success in hunting bears.
- Nanook or more properly Nanuq is also Inuktitut for "polar bear".
- Frank Zappa wrote a song called "Nanook Rubs It", a part of Don't Eat the Yellow Snow, first appearing on his 1974 album Apostrophe.
I can't decide if it's a polar bear reference or a Frank Zappa allusion.
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http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,405.msg3449.html#msg3449
:-*
That made me cry!
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Can a Greek worshipping in Greece to Greek Gods really be called a "pagan"??
http://enews.earthlink.net/article/int?guid=20070121/45b2f350_3ca6_15526200701211792605311 (http://enews.earthlink.net/article/int?guid=20070121/45b2f350_3ca6_15526200701211792605311)
Jess
:laugh: :laugh: :-X
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;D Credit goes to others for noticing this, but I'll post it just the same! ;D
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f12/MrGulliver/Jacket.jpg) (http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f12/MrGulliver/Camry.jpg)
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Must have got things mixed up a bit, before they left this morning. ;)
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"I can't remember, Jake..were YOU wearing the green jacket or was I?"
"No one will notice the difference..let's go!"
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http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20070123/45b59650_3ca6_15526200701231389136470 (http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20070123/45b59650_3ca6_15526200701231389136470)
I don't know whether to make a joke or cry...
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http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20070123/45b59650_3ca6_15526200701231389136470 (http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20070123/45b59650_3ca6_15526200701231389136470)
I don't know whether to make a joke or cry...
I'll go with crying on this one, Jess. Scary.
:'(
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http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,2723.0.html
Hey Wayne - just wanted to let you know I was gossipin 'bout ya!
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I saw Adluh and her sister, Hulda, walking down Gervais Street.
:laugh: ;D :o ::)
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Here are Hulda and Hilda! ;D
http://www.katrinbawah.se/november.htm (http://www.katrinbawah.se/november.htm)
(http://www.katrinbawah.se/image/stickat/beskrivning/hulda.jpg) (http://www.katrinbawah.se/image/stickat/beskrivning/hilda.jpg)
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:D Here too ;D [right click for Properties... ;)]
(http://k43.pbase.com/u32/merjatee/small/31467146.hildahulda160704.jpg)
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The picture of innocence and purity, in the time and social situation she lived:
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Hulda must have been socially progressive since she's wearing that Revolutionary French beret! :o :)
(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:H39v8VDYpfyGqM:http://www.partydomain.co.uk/d-commerce/media/BDS016.gif)
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You know it is a good day when you meet someone you can holler about Adluh Flour with! 8)
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:( :'( :'(
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/30/us/30cnd-blast.html?hp&ex=1170219600&en=f2d23088b7d22eba&ei=5094&partner=homepage (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/30/us/30cnd-blast.html?hp&ex=1170219600&en=f2d23088b7d22eba&ei=5094&partner=homepage)
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:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
That could very well be the one we stopped at, couldn't it?
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We drove right past it, it was one of those faux-old-country store type places. Terrible.
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Is it where we turned around cause I missed the turn? That big tree had fallen in the empty lot?
So sorry to hear about this!! :(
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I wondered if it was near where ya'll had been...that is sad
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:D I'm jealous of Martians - they get a much better view of Jupiter than we do! :D
Jupiter as viewed from the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter:
(http://hiroc.lpl.arizona.edu/images/2007/details/cut/PSP_002162_9030_cut_s.jpg)
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Yeah right now it looks like, but sometimes they are way far away from each other.
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Well now that's true. :) They get closer to Jupiter than we do, but they get farther away from it than we do too.
Now the ones with the really good view of Jupiter are the Galilean moons. :D Cold though! :-\
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Jupitermoon.jpg/250px-Jupitermoon.jpg)
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Well now that's true. :) They get closer to Jupiter than we do, but they get farther away from it than we do too.
Now the ones with the really good view of Jupiter are the Galilean moons. :D Cold though! :-\
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Jupitermoon.jpg/250px-Jupitermoon.jpg)
but pretty and think of the view!!
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If you were a moon of Jupiter, which one would you want to be?
http://www.solarviews.com/eng/jupiter.htm
I want to be Io - volcanic - tempestuous - dramatic :laugh:
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I'd want to be Gannymead, that's one of them I think.
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I'd want to be Gannymead, that's one of them I think.
"Ganymede has had a complex geological history. It has mountains, valleys, craters and lava flows. Ganymede is mottled by both light and dark regions. It is heavily cratered especially in the dark regions implying ancient origin."
A perfect choice for you, my friend, a complex ancient soul.
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Ain't it strange how things work out llike that?
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Imagine how complex the sky is from Ganymede! You've got huge Jupiter of course, and 3 other big moons constantly coming and going, and at least a dozen tiny ones ...
Plus 4 planets closer to the sun (one of which is a double planet!! :o ), and Saturn to the outside.
Astrologers there must have a really difficult job!! :D
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Hey Wayne...
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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:laugh: :laugh: I know, gah!
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You think humans will ever be able to go to those places? Will we ever see them do it?
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What do you think?
Hm. My guess is humans will get to Mars in our lifetime, but not to Jupiter. But it probably won't be me! :-\ :laugh:
But I'd really love to see rovers like Spirit and Opportunity on the moons of Jupiter and Saturn. It's so neat when a planet becomes a place! :D
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/140/361657354_f8f2e7fa83.jpg?v=1170724636) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hortonheardawho/361657354/)
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Hey, bud! When you take a break from dessertationing, go take Roland's and my survey:
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,7993.msg153288.html#msg153288
And feel free to comment on its highly unscientific nature ;).
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*Jess edges in the room*
ok I have a confession...I wrote to Nasa and told a little lie...and they sent me all these really COOL pics from the Apollo programs!!
*Whew I feel better getting that off my chest....don't tell anyone, Wayne!*
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:o :o :D :D So, so WHERE ARE THEY JESS ?!? You mean hardcopy or e-pix?!? :D :D
:o :o :o ARE THERE ANY SPACE ALIENS IN THEM????? :D :D :D
I'll bet there are!! Did you tell them you were with the CIA and needed "those classified pictures of the space aliens"? :D :D I'm on do that right now!!!
(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:eL8HQ-IJxIhafM:http://www.crowdedskies.com/images/new_grey.jpg) (http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:9elO8okKhMC10M:http://www.einsteins-emporium.com/universe/ufo/images/uu220-gd.gif)
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Wayne!!
they sent me pics from EVERY mission EXCEPT that one where the UFO was following the capsule...can't remember which one off hand it was...you remember that?
One of the astronauts came back convinced that there were aliens and they have never released those pics...
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:o :o :D :D So, so WHERE ARE THEY JESS ?!? You mean hardcopy or e-pix?!? :D :D
:o :o :o ARE THERE ANY SPACE ALIENS IN THEM????? :D :D :D
I'll bet there are!! Did you tell them you were with the CIA and needed "those classified pictures of the space aliens"? :D :D I'm on do that right now!!!
(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:eL8HQ-IJxIhafM:http://www.crowdedskies.com/images/new_grey.jpg) (http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:9elO8okKhMC10M:http://www.einsteins-emporium.com/universe/ufo/images/uu220-gd.gif)
hard copy!!
HEY! you were SUPPOSED to not tell everyone!! It was secret!!
:laugh: :laugh:
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I will try to photgraph them and post them...or some of them..
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I will try to photgraph them and post them...or some of them..
At least be sure to post the classified ones!!! :o :D
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Ah, the lush green hills of Mars. :D :o :o
I deCLARE them hills look green to me! :o At the bottom right of this satellite shot in part of Mariner Canyon (Valles Marineris). This area is a huge seepage slope where underground water constantly evaporates from the ground.
To me it looks like it's covered in ... GREEN!!! :D :D :D Like it's covered in algae!!
Or maybe little green men and women. And girls and boys!! And cats and dogs!!! :D
(http://www.esa.int/images/032-060404-0097-6-co-02-Val,1.jpg) (http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/marsexpress/032-060404-0097-6-co-02-VallesMarineris.jpg)
The shot was taken in April 2004, so it's been around for a while, but not much commentary on it.
If you go to this site you can download the high-res where the green in this area really shows up.
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEM6TZ57ESD_0.html (http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEM6TZ57ESD_0.html)
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Did you ever see that Star Trek The Next Generation episode where Ryker was doing undercover work and got hurt? Picard approached their 'President' and revealed that they had been visiting but the President said he didn't think his people were ready to know about aliens
maybe that is what is happening here!!
:o :o ;)
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Picard approached their 'President' and revealed that they had been visiting but the President said he didn't think his people were ready to know about aliens
Well, we certainly can't handle the truth about aliens since we're not even ready to be told the truth about IRAQ!!!
:o >:( :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Notice on the major ridges that one side is green while the other is not.
This spot is a little south of the equator, and north is to the right, so it's the side that is more shaded from the sun that is green, as if the heat of the sun makes the water evaporate faster so the cooler side is better.
That happens a lot on earth too!
Seems to me that would make a biological explanation more plausible - if it was just mineral deposits from the water evaporating, there would be less of a difference than if it's due to algae that need the water in liquid form in the soil for a while instead of evaporating quickly.
:D
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Notice on the major ridges that one side is green while the other is not.
This spot is a little south of the equator, and north is to the right, so it's the side that is more shaded from the sun that is green, as if the heat of the sun makes the water evaporate faster so the cooler side is better.
That happens a lot on earth too!
Seems to me that would make a biological explanation more plausible - if it was just mineral deposits from the water evaporating, there would be less of a difference than if it's due to algae that need the water in liquid form in the soil for a while instead of evaporating quickly.
:D
how FUN...and if there is algae...and water...we could have something to work with! that would be SOOO cool to go there wouldn't it?
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that would be SOOO cool to go there wouldn't it?
:-\ Well, it's a long trip - can we take some board games?? :D :D
(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:fQoaZCz4JtpuTM:http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~sedwards/photos/crazyminnesota200208/Images/14.jpg) (http://www.thegivingflower.de/wp-content/candyland.jpg) (http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:V5wIdNFpMIy9DM:http://www.lscheffer.com/CandyLand.jpg)
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:-\ Well, it's a long trip - can we take some board games?? :D :D
What?!?! No Scrabble???!!! Wayne, I'm hurt, I'm really hurt. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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:'( :'( :'(
(http://members.cox.net/the_redstar_swl/candyland%20raid.jpg)
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What?!?! No Scrabble???!!! Wayne, I'm hurt, I'm really hurt. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:-\ :-* :D
(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:xSVPYzgojJE9_M:http://www.dcs.qmul.ac.uk/cs4fn/security/puzzles/images/scrabble.jpg) (http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:OVUqnQQk1ijCxM:http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9810/13/giant.scrabble/story.scrabble.jpg)
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Thank you. I'm a happy camper again! Now we can shoot us some
elk elf! :) :-*
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Thank you. I'm a happy camper again! Now we can shoot us some elk elf! :) :-*
:-X :-X :-X :-X
NOOOOO
don't shoot the ELF!!
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Wonder what Elian Gonzales is doing these days?
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sad how something is SO important to us one minute and the next we are off to the next thing without a glance back
and stuff that we couldn't care less about (Natalie Holloway) are driven slap into the ground.
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Baby Jessica who fell down the well is a mother now I understand.
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Baby Jessica who fell down the well is a mother now I understand.
:o Yikes! Shouldn't she still be a ... Baby? :o
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Wonder what Elian Gonzales is doing these days?
Funny you ask. El País, Spain's leading newspaper, ran a story about him about a year ago. He is apparently doing well with his father, going to school and happily living like a normal boy. They even had a picture and he looked healthy, well fed and happy.
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I'm glad he's doing well! :)
Sort of interesting that his name is Elian and he was destined to be an alien.
Not that interesting, but sort of interesting. :)
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I'm glad he's doing well! :)
Sort of interesting that his name is Elian and he was destined to be an alien.
Not that interesting, but sort of interesting. :)
I know you mean it as a joke but , a native spanish speaking person would never associate the name Elían with being an alien, because the Spanish word for alien is extranjero. Not even close! ;)
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:o Yikes! Shouldn't she still be a ... Baby? :o
You know when that happened, like October of...1987, soon to be TWENTY YEARS AGO!!!
Oh my.
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::) "lowered expectations in Iraq" ?!? ???
WELL DUH !!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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:-\ Experts Warn Al Qaeda "To Detonate Nuclear Device" In US
(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thenewswire/archive/ap/frankrichbush.jpg) (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/02/25/frank-rich-experts-warn-_n_42066.html)
The full article, I think:
http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0225-23.htm (http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0225-23.htm)
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People just don't realize this planet is the only place we got to live. :(
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WAYNE!!
Oh my God....you wouldn't!!
Well I'll do it if it'll get him out of the White House and us out of Iraq.
Course then I'd have to do Cheney too ..
while I appreciate your willingness to sacrifice yourself for the good of the country....NO ONE should be subjected to THAT kind of horror!!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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:laugh: I am ready to sacrifice for my country! >:(
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:laugh: I am ready to sacrifice for my country! >:(
ok when we get THAT desperate we will call on you to perform the ULTIMATE sacrifice...now we have to think of what MEDAL to give you....not the purple heart...maybe the Purple..uh....uh.... :-X :-X :-X
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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;D the purple pecker!! :D
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;D the purple pecker!! :D
:o :o
*faint*
LOL!!
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Hey Wayne! I did a S-C-A-R-Y thing today! I emailed UTSI to see if they would have me back to finish that master's degree. Must have been a temporary time/space fluctuation...gonna help me with my homework?? :D
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:D That's great!!!! Homework ? ::) :-\ Well, I'm not sure if I'd help or hinder! :laugh:
Go for it - I hope it works out!!!
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Good luck Lynne, what will your degree be in? Wayne, you can keep the purple pecker, I'm afraid of that. :laugh:
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;D Hey I don't have to get my passport renude after all !
I checked and it's still good thru 2008. Man, they're saying it's a ten-week wait and 67 $ >:( that's awful!
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Great news about the passport, Wayne!
Degree would be in physics - I think it's just a passing thought. I was pondering why I never rarely finish anything ??? and visited their website - the mostly useless advisor I had before is gone, and there is now a full professor who is interested in biophysics and biotech, unlike all of the air and space guys who were there before...so I figure it's worth asking about...I did all my coursework once - the second time around should be a breeze ::). And the bonus is that there is now a no-thesis option, which is where I got stuck last time.
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And the bonus is that there is now a no-thesis option, which is where I got stuck last time.
Wow, that is like getting a get out of jail free card.
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:-\ I could use one a them cards. ::)
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:-\ I could use one a them cards. ::)
But it will all be over soon, Dr. J.
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Good luck Lynne, what will your degree be in? Wayne, you can keep the purple pecker, I'm afraid of that. :laugh:
to go with his blue ba........ :-X :-X :-X :-X
poor WAYNE!! sounds painful....
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Lureen, you seen my purple pecker? Parka I mean, parka :-\
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The last time I saw you with that purple pecker, uh, nevermind......
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:D ;) :-*
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Jesus, I know you're busy, but if You get a chance, could You help me finish my dissertation? :D Thanks! - Cowboy Wayne
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Jesus, I know you're busy, but if You get a chance, could You help me finish my dissertation? :D Thanks! - Cowboy Wayne
I thought this said JESS
I thought you had just lost your mind...I don't even know what a dissertation is really!!
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:laugh: Well you may be right about the lost my mind part!! :laugh:
It's coming along though ... I figured out something really cool yesterday! :D
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:laugh: Well you may be right about the lost my mind part!! :laugh:
It's coming along though ... I figured out something really cool yesterday! :D
AND??
there has got to be another post around here somewhere...he couldn't just leave us all HANGING!
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:D oh - sorry - the problem was that I don't know how to calculate the intraclass correlation from a logistic model, given the info that SAS prints out.
But I figured out that if you take the intraclass correlation from the corresponding linear model and apply it to the variance from the logistic model, you get a value that is 2 times the correct standard error.
I don't yet know why it works, but it does work, so that's pretty cool ;D ;D :D
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:D oh - sorry - the problem was that I don't know how to calculate the intraclass correlation from a logistic model, given the info that SAS prints out.
But I figured out that if you take the intraclass correlation from the corresponding linear model and apply it to the variance from the logistic model, you get a value that is 2 times the correct standard error.
I don't yet know why it works, but it does work, so that's pretty cool ;D ;D :D
oh is that all?? Yep...linear take away the intra thingie...two times..varigated....yep...works...go with that! ;D ;D
::) ::)
*Jess's head hurts now*
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oh is that all?? Yep...linear take away the intra thingie...two times..varigated....yep...works...go with that! ;D ;D
::) ::)
*Jess's head hurts now*
Don't feel lonely, Jess...I can define all those words on their own, but put together it feels like one big jumble! Maybe Aleve will help. ;)
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put together it feels like one big jumble!
:-\ sadly, that's how it looks to me right now too!! :laugh: :P
Hey Lynne thanks for the post card!!!! :D
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:-\ sadly, that's how it looks to me right now too!! :laugh: :P
Hey Lynne thanks for the post card!!!! :D
oh quit trying to make us feel better, Mr Smart Brainiac!
and yeah...Thanks for the Post card, Lynne.... >:( :'( :'( :'(
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:-\ Sorry - I don't know who organized it -- was it Ohio? I'm figuring she didn't have your address Jess. :-*
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aw it's ok...this anon stuff sucks sometimes that is all! :P
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:-\ sadly, that's how it looks to me right now too!! :laugh: :P
Hey Lynne thanks for the post card!!!! :D
You're most welcome, Wayne!
and yeah...Thanks for the Post card, Lynne.... >:( :'( :'( :'(
Sweetie, you'd better know I'd have made sure you got one if I had your address. I can understand why you like to be anonymous, though...My sincerest apologies. Maybe you could PM me the biggest town and I can send one there General Delivery from San Francisco?? (Do they still let you do that, anyhow?)
:'( :'( :-* :-*
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http://www.thelocal.se/7544/ (http://www.thelocal.se/7544/)
"Hercules! You just defeated the Gorgon! What are you gonna do next??"
"I am going to Disney World!"
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:laugh: Mickey Mouse!! :laugh: I'm on use that ... ;)
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Wayne, should we tell them we planted those, or not? :laugh:
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WAYNE!!
DON'T LOOK AT THIS SITE EITHER!!
VERY scary!!
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/column.php?id=97317 (http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/column.php?id=97317)
*Shiver!*
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:D Jake and I are very proud of our son Wake (on the left). Wake looks up to his half-brother Crick (on the right).
(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/000a3z24) (http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/000a63wd)
Here's Jake with Crick's other dad Chris. These two are FINE!! :)
(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/0009q1e0)
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:D omg y'all look I'm in the paper today in the next town over!! :D :D
Profile of Mountain Boy (http://www.davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=25954.msg975236#msg975236)
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OMFG!!!
What a great article! I am astounded again! You are too smart for me....I feel like a moron...
Where are the links to the Mars stuff? HUH??
Why you only let your COOL friends see that stuff??
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Ellllly Laaaaw have mercy! I didn;t know all that! Damn, you translate Russian?!? Sheeeeeit fire!
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Why you only let your COOL friends see that stuff??
:D :P I wrote it last year before they banned me!! :laugh: :laugh:
It was supposed to come out on a Sunday after they banned me on a Friday, so they pulled it. :laugh: :laugh:
But after a year of servitude I've been rehabilitated! :laugh: >:( :P 8) ;) ;D :D :laugh:
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:D :P I wrote it last year before they banned me!! :laugh: :laugh:
It was supposed to come out on a Sunday after they banned me on a Friday, so they pulled it. :laugh: :laugh:
But after a year of servitude I've been rehabilitated! :laugh: >:( :P 8) ;) ;D :D :laugh:
you must be so relieved! :P ;)
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I made a Wayne file in my Favorites for your links...cause they are cool!!!
(Wake is cuter than Crick.... ;) )
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ok. I want to tell someone this ....and I think you will understand..so..
I was thinking today while I was driving....I have a friend that thinks if she misses her turn that God made her do it for a reason...like to protect her from a wreck or something.
And that thought...that God is so involved and close...is comforting....but.
what happens when bad things happen? If you think God is right there protecting you and you DO get into an accident then how do you wrap your mind around the thought that he let it happen?
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:-\ Yeah, that's a conundrum all right. I won't claim to have "the answer."
After a hurricane or tornado where people are killed, we often hear survivors say something to the effect of "I thank God for protecting me."
Sorry if this seems disrespectful, but to me that sounds like defining God as random chance.
I mean, I sympathize with their plight, and I identify with their sense of shock and relief. But logically the statement seems to imply that God didn't protect their neighbors, or even sent the tornado to kill them. I'm sure they don't actually think that, but they haven't worked through that part.
From a detached perspective I have to think that it's just weather. We should try to do what we reasonably can to protect ourselves but unfortunately bad things are still going to happen.
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I totally agree with that. I always think of that also when people in sports, mention that it was the lord that was with us or some such answer. As if god is watching ball games and picking one side over the other. How ridiculous. JMO
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;D Thanks for the call today Truman! Yeah my Russian isn't as good as my French, but my translating into English is pretty good! ;)
Hope everybody's having a great afternoon, or mid-nite if you're down under! Talk w/ya soon! :-* :-*
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:D I'm the man on the roof. (http://atlanta.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/Content?category=oid%3A10037)
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Really!!?? That's so cool!! I loved that story. And---wow---to have someone who can "fix" things closeby is a grand thing!! Be sure to relay "the rest of the story" when you can. And -- I wish I had a bench on the top of the house. How great is that? Do you watch stars, too? Thanks for sharing!
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Wayne
we gonna have to have a long serious talk buddy!
;)
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Good talking with you too Wayne, I really enjoyed reading the story, btw, was it a hot tin roof?
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HEY! See?? THIS is what I am talking about...you give all your GOOD friends the good stuff so I have to go stealing!! You are FORCING me into a life of crime!!
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-10/1218627/senlcraig.jpg)
HI!!
(and I USED to be SUCH a good girl)
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Jess, that could be your avatar at some point. :laugh:
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Jess, that could be your avatar at some point. :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh:
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You are FORCING me into a life of crime!!
:laugh: Just like poor Larry forced himself into criminal behavior by working against gay marriage! ;D
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:laugh: Just like poor Larry forced himself into criminal behavior by working against gay marriage! ;D
you could show a LITTLE remorse for the havoc ye hath wroth!!
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What would happen if I work against heterosexual divorce?
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What would happen if I work against heterosexual divorce?
there would be as many miserable straights as there are gays??
Meaning they are miserable in their circumstances....wanting something they can not have...
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What would happen if I work against heterosexual divorce?
:D Think of all the marriages you could save. :)
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:D Think of all the marriages you could save. :)
oh SURE be all positive and stuff.... ;D ;)
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:-\ Yikes.
Both Jaxson's and ohnotheydidnt's posts about the love I hoped would save us have been taken down.
This makes me sad. :'( :'(
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omg omg! :D one of them is back up!!
An uplifiting story on Jake :D (http://jonathanjaxson.blogspot.com/2007/08/jake-gyllenhaal-gay.html)
The blogger (JJ) says "Some information has been removed per not having 100% of the facts" but the basic point is still intact... and I HOPE Jake is gonna be a daddy!! :D :D
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omg omg! :D one of them is back up!!
An uplifiting story on Jake :D (http://jonathanjaxson.blogspot.com/2007/08/jake-gyllenhaal-gay.html)
He says "Some information has been removed per not having 100% of the facts" but the basic point is still intact... and I HOPE Jake is gonna be a daddy!! :D :D
ok....now LOOK...if he is walking around in public smooching this guy where are the pics!!???
we want to SEE!!
well, not me..I totally respect his privacy but OTHER people I am sure would want to....and I should see them too...you know just to make sure they are appropriate and all...
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hey Rob....I STILL see you, bad boy!!
You come in here...and no TELLING who you will run into!!
Hi Wayne,
Just a tourist passin thru. Thought I'd come over and visit for a short while on the way to the Komedy Klub for the last 5 minutes of lunch break. ;D
But I'll be back. :)
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I totally respect his privacy but OTHER people I am sure would want to....and I should see them too...you know just to make sure they are appropriate and all...
;D Exactly!! Well hang on a sec and I'll show you who I HOPE it is!! ;D
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I want to see the pics, too! ;D
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;D
(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/000af12e)
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;D (http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/000af12e/g190)
you are so bad!!
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I am gonna go snoop around in a certain person's journal.... ;D
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you are so bad!!
::) Hit F5 - I fixed it! ;D
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::) Hit F5 - I fixed it! ;D
yeah, but he is NOT smooching Jake! He is just standing there smiling....
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yeah, but he is NOT smooching Jake!
Sadly no... :'( My world will be complete the day they pose for that! :D :-* :-*
They've been keeping us in suspense for a year and a half now! c'mon guys it's time to get moving!! ;D
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Sadly no... :'( My world will be complete the day they pose for that! :D :-* :-*
They've been keeping us in suspense for a year and a half now! c'mon guys it's time to get moving!! ;D
or the paparazzi catches it!! :o
I don't think it would hurt his career! His fans will still adore him!
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See if this works...
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you are so bad!!
But BAD is more interesting!
Bye Wayne. I was going to the K Klub, wasn't I. Got sidetracked by a 'phone call and left you minimised. ;D
CYa
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hee hee....
Is this the guy that was wearing Jakes shirt that day?
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There have been at least a couple of clothing exchanges - we've seen Chris wearing the green jacket with the yellow stripe that Jake wore in the "Bronx chat" skit on SNL.
On the other hand, Jake and Austin have been seen wearing some other same shirt.
When Jake and Austin share clothes, it means they're friends. But when Jake and Chris share clothes, it means they're in LUUUV!! :D ;D
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There have been at least a couple of clothing exchanges - we've seen Chris wearing the green jacket with the yellow stripe that Jake wore in the "Bronx chat" skit on SNL.
On the other hand, Jake and Austin have been seen wearing some other same shirt.
When Jake and Austin share clothes, it means they're friends. But when Jake and Chris share clothes, it means they're in LUUUV!! :D ;D
oh ok...that makes perfect sense... ::) ::) ::)
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;D As you can tell I'm far too invested in this! :laugh: ::)
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;D As you can tell I'm far too invested in this! :laugh: ::)
naaa! LOL!!
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:D From a gossip column today: (http://www.eonline.com/gossip/awful/index.jsp)
Came home to a bit of an online tremor that Mr. Toothy Tile himself is about to be outed—elsewhere on the Internet. Hmmm. Who could it be? (The closeted actor, not the outer, I mean.)
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hey Garry is finding the same stuff!!
cross your fingers!!
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:D Git it while it lasts! NBC and YouTube have already taken down this video clip of Andy Samberg and Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad together at last, in this SNL Digital Short with Adam Levine.
oh yean AND JAKE!!! ;D
Nuclear threat? The only threat I see
Is the threat of you not comin home to me. :-* :-*
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=257_1191172868
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OMG, Wayne I hear about this, this is wonderful, thank you for posting it.
"Your in New York now!"
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Happy New Year to you and yours, Cowboy! Have a wonderful 2008!
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Aww what a great picture.
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:laugh: ::) Well as you know the camera adds 40 to 50 pounds ...
:P I declare he had some better ones! :laugh:
Happy New Year friends!!! :D :-* :-*
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When is the next chapter of our Twist Family Bible coming?
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When is the next chapter of our Twist Family Bible coming?
I think he said he is pushing on his school work....
I know I don't post much but I enjoy reading it. I have learned a lot. A nice change from the dogma that I grew up with..
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I have enjoyed it too, it is like a breath of fresh air.
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Aww what a great picture.
It shows my best side, my liver! :laugh:
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No pressure...just asking. :)
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It shows my best side, my liver! :laugh:
Oh my if you arent the silliest guy...its why i love you..... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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:D Y'all wanna start the Gospel of John?!? How about tomorrow?
John Chapter 1: be there or send up a prayer! ;D ;)
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Sure I enjoy it a lot...It makes me think....
I got quad fours................4444
should be lucky or something?
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:o :D John is the 4th of the 4 gospels!!!! :D
And today is Jan 4th! :o
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http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/071231-mm-outer-mysteries.html (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/071231-mm-outer-mysteries.html)
cool website:
Mysteries of the outer solar system!
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hey, Wayne. I didn't know where to put this so...
here is why I do not go to church anymore.
My sister had a nervous breakdown a couple of weeks ago. Bedridden, been in the hospital, the whole nine yards. Called me last night, crying her head off saying she loved me and was sorry she wasn't a good sister to me.
then she said "I cant stand knowing you are going to hell when you die"
So this is religion? just a tool to make people feel bad? That is all she has gotten from going to church? that everyone is going to hell (everyone that doesnt' go to HER little church)...
and it is really upsetting her. I won't participate in that.....it is not right to put that in people's heads. I can't/won't accept that God set up the whole Universe and all of human history so a couple of hundred people in East Texas can go to Heaven....
I am also a little irritated that she has even been THINKING about the state of my soul! that is MY business...
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I figure, I wouldn't send anybody to Hell - eternal physical or psychological torture - forever for anything.
Not Hitler, not the people who crucified Jesus (Father forgive them!), not even Ronald Reagan himself.
Is God as compassionate as me?
If he or she were not, then he or she would not be good.
And if we worshipped someone who was not good, merely to gain some benefit like living forever or going to a place where the streets are paved with gold, we would be materialistic jerks seeking to sell our souls to the highest bidder.
And we certainly aren't that ! :o :P
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Another possibility is that God actually is compassionate and would not choose to send anyone to hell, but those are just the rules.
In other words, maybe God didn't make the rules, he just has to live by them.
Maybe he made a deal with the Devil and he can't back out now.
Or maybe there is a higher power than the being we call God, and that's who says that's the way it has to be.
In that case, God should have been honest about it and told us straight up. Or he could at least tell us now.
And that power (the power higher than the God we know about) would be a bad guy for the same reason.
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I agree, how could God not be as compassionate as we are? It has to be so.
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Thank you Wayne....
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I wish there was someone I could thank, for the opportunity to meet you. I would have to thank a lot of people, especially me and you.
Friend, I wish we were closer, physically and socially. You are such a good guy that I cuss the times I think about you and wish I could be there, raising a beer and rubbing shoulders with you.
Scaley Mountain is calling.
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Thanks for being my friends, Shakes and Jess ... :'( :-* Sorry we're having to face some sad times .... :-\
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May I say:
God, Infinity, Spirit, Light... is compassion...
as I see that everyday!! I did not think so at times!! I see that compassion more and more!!
Of course, life is hard, and many things we do not understand right away and some we never will...
guess everything is/are mysteries?? Some we solve or are solved for us!! - I see that!!
I do not like the four persons who tried to murder me all at once beating me and leaving me for dead, that was and is still hard as I fear more now; however, I have learned, because of that fear, to cope in wondrous ways which I would not have done before. I do forgive those who tried to kill me, but I do not forget and that but guides me somehow to new as well as old issues which I try to slove within myself and thank goodness with others who help too in their ways and experiences and thoughts for guidance!!
Pray that everyone is happy and taking care too!!
Hugs!! Let us all be safe and happy!!
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Hope everybody's having a great day! A li'l inspiration to get us through...
(http://zosomoto.tripod.com/auctionpics/dripchick2.JPG)
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(http://blog.canoe.ca/mediam/JACKSON.jpg)
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(http://creepyla.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/picture-21.png)
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:D It's creepy day!!! (http://chrisashley.net/weblog/archives/cat_book_covers.html)
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;D
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:P :o
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Hey Wayne, good to see you being random!
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;D As I am wont !
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How is the dissertation coming along?
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they has been no air raid
signals warning...??
:laugh: Nope, all is well ! Just exorcising some evil spirits I think! :P
Glad to see you Miz Fixit!
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How is the dissertation coming along?
;D Coming along well ! I finally submitted my most difficult paper to my comittee on Monday. We're meeting on Friday to follow up! :D :D
So, just 2 more to go! ::) :P :laugh:
Hope y'all are having a good evenin'. :)
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;D Coming along well ! I finally submitted my most difficult paper to my comittee on Monday. We're meeting on Friday to follow up! :D :D
So, just 2 more to go! ::) :P :laugh:
Hope y'all are having a good evenin'. :)
you have to submit your dessert to a committee?? Now THAT is a strict diet!
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you have to submit your dessert to a committee??
:D yes, but I've already had 3 and I still get 2 more!!! ;D :P
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After fifty years, has it gotten any better? I don't think it has. >:(
The Hollywood closet. (http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/when_the_elites_had_class)
Raymond Burr, who had just struck it rich with “Perry Mason,” was big and burly and gay as they come. Back in those good old days to be gay was a big no-no, and the poor man was terrified to be outed once he became a pop culture idol.
He was a TV star, and did not have a big movie studio behind him to protect him, so he did the next best thing. He invented three deaths, one of his non-existent first wife whom he claimed had died in the same air crash as Leslie Howard, the death of his non-existent second wife, who supposedly died of cancer just after the birth of their son, and then, for good measure, he claimed his non-existent son also died from the disease after having spent a year travelling around the world with his father Raymond.
Burr also fabricated military service during World War Two, including a non-existent Purple Heart. Reporters didn’t dare ask any questions about Burr’s agony, which was just as well. Natalie Wood, as troubled a child star as it was possible to be, went after Burr, convinced their tragic lives had many things in common, including great sexual appetites. She was deeply disappointed but never let on, as the sweet person that she was.
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Raymond Burr was/is a gay man ?
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:D yes, but I've already had 3 and I still get 2 more!!! ;D :P
man, college is TOUGH!! :o :o
good thing you are not diabetic!
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After fifty years, has it gotten any better? I don't think it has. >:(
The Hollywood closet. (http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/when_the_elites_had_class)
Raymond Burr, who had just struck it rich with “Perry Mason,” was big and burly and gay as they come. Back in those good old days to be gay was a big no-no, and the poor man was terrified to be outed once he became a pop culture idol.
He was a TV star, and did not have a big movie studio behind him to protect him, so he did the next best thing. He invented three deaths, one of his non-existent first wife whom he claimed had died in the same air crash as Leslie Howard, the death of his non-existent second wife, who supposedly died of cancer just after the birth of their son, and then, for good measure, he claimed his non-existent son also died from the disease after having spent a year travelling around the world with his father Raymond.
Burr also fabricated military service during World War Two, including a non-existent Purple Heart. Reporters didn’t dare ask any questions about Burr’s agony, which was just as well. Natalie Wood, as troubled a child star as it was possible to be, went after Burr, convinced their tragic lives had many things in common, including great sexual appetites. She was deeply disappointed but never let on, as the sweet person that she was.
I didn't know he was gay...how hard it must have been for him...
but it IS getting better, a bit...think of the gay actors we have now...ok we are still waiting for our first gay action hero (can you IMAGINE how popular THAT movie will be???! :o ) but we have started....
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I don't know why people consider BM as the first gay movie ?
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The latest craze: Blackout Poems! (http://www.austinkleon.com/category/newspaper-blackout-poems/)
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not UFOs!! PLEASE!1
Garry is always saying the aliens are gonna get me!
I like this one!
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:D But wait there's more!!
(http://entertainmentweakly.com/ppubic.png)
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:D But wait there's more!!
(http://entertainmentweakly.com/ppubic.png)
:o :o
I bet there is a line for THAT job...
I got one for you, Wayne!!
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,20295.0.html (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,20295.0.html)
Police Rescue Penis Thieves From Lynchmob!!!
;D ;D :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Wayne, do you have a google news alert for the word penis? :laugh:
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Wayne, do you have a google news alert for the word penis? :laugh:
hey all the news that is fit to post!!
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:D Woo hoo! Obama pulls ahead in Michigan !!!!
(http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/Pngs/Jun12.png)
According to the latest polls in each state, it's Obama 304 McCain 221 Ties 13 (http://www.electoral-vote.com/)
Needed to win: 270
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:o Oh My Ceiling Cat! They've translated 61% of the Bible into LOLspeak already!!! :laugh: (http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Main_Page)
(http://www.lolcatbible.com/images/4/4f/God_is_Cheeseburger.jpg)
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:'( Here is their terse translation of John 11:35:
35 Jebus crieded. Not jus litle teers, no. he crieded big teers. Cuz Lolrus was ded an stufs an everywun luved him, even Jebus. Jebus trieded to wipe teers awai wit his pawz but teh teers kept comin an comin and everywun saweded that as dey were emo too. Everywun was emo. Yeh. Srsly. U has an emo too! It's okai, cryin is okay. Everywun can criez. Jebus wepted. :'( ;)
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:'( Here is their terse translation of John 11:35:
35 Jebus crieded. Not jus litle teers, no. he crieded big teers. Cuz Lolrus was ded an stufs an everywun luved him, even Jebus. Jebus trieded to wipe teers awai wit his pawz but teh teers kept comin an comin and everywun saweded that as dey were emo too. Everywun was emo. Yeh. Srsly. U has an emo too! It's okai, cryin is okay. Everywun can criez. Jebus wepted. :'( ;)
AWWWWW!!
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Lolrus
:laugh: Lolrus kikt teh bukkit!! :'(
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Hay Wayne, wha'chu drinkin? Fiks me wun.
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Hey bro, how 'bout tee martoonis! :D ;)
(http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/05/27/23042705.jpg)
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LOLcat John 11:35 reminds me that's idzactly the chapter where we left off back in January ... :laugh: (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,16137.msg324900.html#msg324900) gotta pick back up with that sometime soon.
How's your day goin?
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHEEEEEEEEE! :-*
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oh no!!
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:laugh: :laugh: Scratchtower Magazine!! :laugh:
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Oh crap - dissertashun!! :P :P ;) :laugh:
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Meat, by Terry Bisson (http://www.terrybisson.com/meat.html)
"They're made out of meat."
"Meat?"
"Meat. They're made out of meat."
"Meat?"
"There's no doubt about it. We picked up several from different parts of the planet, took them aboard our recon vessels, and probed them all the way through. They're completely meat."
"That's impossible. What about the radio signals? The messages to the stars?"
"They use the radio waves to talk, but the signals don't come from them. The signals come from machines."
"So who made the machines? That's who we want to contact."
"They made the machines. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Meat made the machines."
"That's ridiculous. How can meat make a machine? You're asking me to believe in sentient meat."
"I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. These creatures are the only sentient race in that sector and they're made out of meat."
"Maybe they're like the orfolei. You know, a carbon-based intelligence that goes through a meat stage."
"Nope. They're born meat and they die meat. We studied them for several of their life spans, which didn't take long. Do you have any idea what's the life span of meat?"
"Spare me. Okay, maybe they're only part meat. You know, like the weddilei. A meat head with an electron plasma brain inside."
"Nope. We thought of that, since they do have meat heads, like the weddilei. But I told you, we probed them. They're meat all the way through."
"No brain?"
"Oh, there's a brain all right. It's just that the brain is made out of meat! That's what I've been trying to tell you."
"So ... what does the thinking?"
"You're not understanding, are you? You're refusing to deal with what I'm telling you. The brain does the thinking. The meat."
"Thinking meat! You're asking me to believe in thinking meat!"
"Yes, thinking meat! Conscious meat! Loving meat. Dreaming meat. The meat is the whole deal! Are you beginning to get the picture or do I have to start all over?"
"Omigod. You're serious then. They're made out of meat."
"Thank you. Finally. Yes. They are indeed made out of meat. And they've been trying to get in touch with us for almost a hundred of their years."
"Omigod. So what does this meat have in mind?"
"First it wants to talk to us. Then I imagine it wants to explore the Universe, contact other sentiences, swap ideas and information. The usual."
"We're supposed to talk to meat."
"That's the idea. That's the message they're sending out by radio. 'Hello. Anyone out there. Anybody home.' That sort of thing."
"They actually do talk, then. They use words, ideas, concepts?"
"Oh, yes. Except they do it with meat."
"I thought you just told me they used radio."
"They do, but what do you think is on the radio? Meat sounds. You know how when you slap or flap meat, it makes a noise? They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat."
"Omigod. Singing meat. This is altogether too much. So what do you advise?"
"Officially or unofficially?"
"Both."
"Officially, we are required to contact, welcome and log in any and all sentient races or multibeings in this quadrant of the Universe, without prejudice, fear or favor. Unofficially, I advise that we erase the records and forget the whole thing."
"I was hoping you would say that."
"It seems harsh, but there is a limit. Do we really want to make contact with meat?"
"I agree one hundred percent. What's there to say? 'Hello, meat. How's it going?' But will this work? How many planets are we dealing with here?"
"Just one. They can travel to other planets in special meat containers, but they can't live on them. And being meat, they can only travel through C space. Which limits them to the speed of light and makes the possibility of their ever making contact pretty slim. Infinitesimal, in fact."
"So we just pretend there's no one home in the Universe."
"That's it."
"Cruel. But you said it yourself, who wants to meet meat? And the ones who have been aboard our vessels, the ones you probed? You're sure they won't remember?"
"They'll be considered crackpots if they do. We went into their heads and smoothed out their meat so that we're just a dream to them."
"A dream to meat! How strangely appropriate, that we should be meat's dream."
"And we marked the entire sector unoccupied."
"Good. Agreed, officially and unofficially. Case closed. Any others? Anyone interesting on that side of the galaxy?"
"Yes, a rather shy but sweet hydrogen core cluster intelligence in a class nine star in G445 zone. Was in contact two galactic rotations ago, wants to be friendly again."
"They always come around."
"And why not? Imagine how unbearably, how unutterably cold the Universe would be if one were all alone ..."
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:-\ Not sure what to think of Tim Russert. I remember being pretty clear he was a bad guy during the 2000 elections. This confirms it: (http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Time%20for%20change/31)
"At one point in the evening (during the presidential debate), Gore explains, Russert approached the candidates. As Gore was closest to him, Russert respectfully shook his hand and then moved on to Bush. Thinking that Gore had turned away, Russert shook Bush’s hand and, mischievously, turned over his jacket lapel to reveal a Bush campaign pin hidden under the fold."
And if you saw that TV movie last week about the stolen 2000 election, apparently Russert was the guy who got Lieberman (one of the most despicable people around in any case) to concede the election without Gore's approval and before the Florida court's decision had even been announced.
Russert seemed to support the Iraq war an awful lot when if he had just read my fricking livejournal before we started bombing he would have known that the UN inspectors under Hans Blix had just finished a thorough search of Iraq and had found that there were no WMDs. Seems like it would take either a really stupid reporter not to know that, or a really dishonest one to try to cover it up. But they all did, and he was at least as gung ho as the rest of them. :P
Three years later Russert was trying to trick the audience into thinking that Cheney and Bush had never linked the Iraq invasion to 9/11. (http://openlettertotimrussert.blogspot.com/)
My impression is Russert suddenly realized what an ignorant Bush supporter he had been for several years and started getting less biased over the past couple of years. Or maybe his corporate owners changed their minds about Bush and told him he didn't have to lie so much any more to protect the administration.
Oh well, anyway, he's dead now. :-\ (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6358365&mesg_id=6358365)
I am sorry to hear it. I think he was becoming a better person. For that reason, you gotta wonder of course if the Republicans poisoned him.
My condolences to the family.
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Ooh this is cool. Unverified but irritatingly likely bits about ties between the Bush and bin Laden families, lifted from Fark. (http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=3670925)
All that follows is quote. Read at your own risk.
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The bin Laden family, which owns substantial interest in the Carlyle Group, has made millions of dollars off of the 'War on Terror' that their boy kickstarted.
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n11/g00df311a/636_carlyle_group_logo_2050081722-8.jpg)
All those no-bid contracts given to defense contractors funneled money directly to the coffers of the Bush family, the bin Laden family, and other war profiteers.
That's the great irony of this situation. One bin Laden engineers the 9/11 attacks, and the rest of the bin Laden family makes millions off of it, and continues to to this very day.
Interesting that George Bush Sr was meeting with Osama bin Laden's brother Shafig bin Laden, in the Ritz-Carlton Hotel, Washington, on the morning of September 11 when the attacks happened (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shafig_bin_Laden).
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n11/g00df311a/171_bush_king_fahd.jpg)
This is a picture of Bush Sr in 2000 peddling weapons to the Saudis on behalf of the Carlyle Group. Former president turned weapons pitchman.
They quickly wisked the bin Ladens out of the country afterwards. We certainly wouldn't want to ask them about the whereabouts of their boy. Let's just wait 7 years and then start an active search instead.
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n11/g00df311a/176_khalil_bin_laden2050081722-8679.jpg)
As we've seen, money talks. If the Bush family receives a few hundred thousand dollars a year from the US government, and they receive tens or hundreds of millions of dollars a year from their war profiteering business, who's interests do you think they hold more dear? Well, actions speak louder than words, and we've seen that money comes before country. The Bush family sold America out.
Not to surprising, coming from a family that has been appeasing dictators since the 1930's, when Prescott Bush laundered money for Hitler's Nazi Germany.
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n11/g00df311a/15280_2-1.jpg)
It actually took an act of the president, President Roosevelt, to shut down Bush's bank Brown Brothers Harriman Co because even as American boys were fighting Hitler's war machine, Prescott Bush was laundering funds to the Nazis to prop up their war machine and buy more weapons to kill more American boys. Thats called putting profit before country. Others would call it treason.
The Bush family were traitors then, and they're traitors now. America comes second. Profit comes first.
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Virginia goes blue today (http://www.electoral-vote.com/) - Congrats Truman! ;D ;D
(http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/Pngs/Jun17.png)
Electoral vote count predicted by latest polls in each state: Obama 317 McCain 221
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:o When you refuse to sell to the developer ... :o :-\ (http://time-blog.com/china_blog/2007/03/nail_house.html)
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g43/Ironman_Indy/Fark/House.jpg) (http://time-blog.com/china_blog/nailhouse01.jpg)
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:o Holy moly Florida went blue today! Course things looked good for Kerry for a while there too. Gotta savor it while it lasts. :laugh:
Prediction based on latest polls in each state: Obama 344 McCain 194 (http://www.electoral-vote.com/)
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The square corners and straight lines of these stones still freak me out. They look like ancient stone blocks for a temple or a market, scoured to the ground by eons of wind and sand. Drag the pic so you can see the right side.
(http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/n/1559/1N266583413EFF89BKP1960R0M1.JPG)
Photoed this week on Mars. (http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/n/1559/1N266583413EFF89BKP1960R0M1.HTML)
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Are you gonna let us know where these were taken? I'm curious.
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The square corners and straight lines of these stones still freak me out. They look like ancient stone blocks for a temple or a market, scoured to the ground by eons of wind and sand. Drag the pic so you can see the right side.
(http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/n/1559/1N266583413EFF89BKP1960R0M1.JPG)
Photoed this week on Mars. (http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/n/1559/1N266583413EFF89BKP1960R0M1.HTML)
I know!! I was wondering if you had seen them. They really do look like paving stones.
makes you think doesnt' it?
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All politics are dirty, I have concluded.
I vote for another pitcher of PBR!
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All politics are dirty, I have concluded.
I vote for another pitcher of PBR!
ok!!
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Are you gonna let us know where these were taken? I'm curious.
That's the thing FRanger!! They were taken ...
:D ON MARS!!!! :o :o (http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/n/1559/1N266583413EFF89BKP1960R0M1.HTML)
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Remember that pregnant onion you gave me in December?
Turns out it is a Bowiea volubilis.
Strange plant.
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:D Great! I had never known the name ... any relation to David Bowie? ???
So it's surviving? They look cool after they've been growing for a few weeks undisturbed - all the tendrils pointing in the same direction. :D
Also reminds me of a plant I have seen only once. It came up all over Columbia after Hurricane Hugo. Just orange tendrils with small white flowers, growing over everything. Mystical! :D
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:D OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!!! :D (http://vineyard.plumtv.com/videos/edible_island_-_local_lamb)
Chris Fischer, longtime friend of Jake's talks about life on the farm. ;D
Takes forever to load and seems like it's not going to work but just give it a while ;D
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Also reminds me of a plant I have seen only once. It came up all over Columbia after Hurricane Hugo. Just orange tendrils with small white flowers, growing over everything. Mystical! :D
And apparently a parastic pest as well! :laugh:
Dodder (http://www.doacs.state.fl.us/pi/enpp/pathology/pathcirc/pp334.pdf)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/Cuscuta_europaea_bgiu.jpg/800px-Cuscuta_europaea_bgiu.jpg)
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Awe gawd, Dodder! That shit is alful.
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Nother shot of our Fischin' buddy! 2nd place in the Martha's Vineyard Turkey Trot (http://www.mvtimes.com/news/2007/11/29/sports.php) last November.
Out in front on the left. ;D
(http://www.mvtimes.com/images/news/2007/11/29/large/start.jpg)
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Now Wayne, do I understand from the West Virginia Drunkenness thread that you have competed you dissertation?
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Awe gawd, Dodder!
:laugh: Guess Columbia's hot and dry enough it never caught on... I thought it was kinda purty! :D
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I love you, Wayne.
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completed
:-\ Not quite ... but soon, as always!! ;D
PS Awww, Miz Lynne! :-* :)
Hope y'all are doing well! :D
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The net worth of the United States - the ENTIRE COUNTRY - is now less than the value of the oil in Iraq and Saudi Arabia.
How much oil it'd take to buy the entire United States (http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Extra/HowMuchOilItdTakeToBuyTheUS.aspx)
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Not surprised.
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:D The Cochrane review was published this week! ;D
Behavioral interventions to reduce risk for sexual transmission of HIV among men who have sex with men (http://www.mrw.interscience.wiley.com/cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001230/frame.html)
:-\ PS Dang just found out you can't see it outside my office!! Well, just take my word for it then, it's real good! :laugh:
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??? I'll admit I don't get the joke, at least not yet, but I LOVE THE PICTURE!!! :laugh: :laugh:
Larry King to Share His Life Story in Upcoming Book (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/25853376.html)
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:D The Cochrane review was published this week! ;D
Behavioral interventions to reduce risk for sexual transmission of HIV among men who have sex with men (http://www.mrw.interscience.wiley.com/cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001230/frame.html)
Way to go Wayne! I am so happy to see this!
Hope you head don't get as big as Larry King's!!! ;D
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:laugh: Already is, I just haven't changed my hairstyle to match yet. :laugh:
How yoo Doin?! Off to the beach soon?
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Once again, it's time for Mildly Homoerotic FridazeR !!!!
Robert "Babs" deNiro and Martin Scorsese:
(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/000ea488)
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??? Hmmm - this is the first article / headline I've seen to just come right out and say it:
Life on Mars found, thanks to Phoenix Lander (http://voices.kansascity.com/node/1692)
I suspect they may actually be right, yet I suspect the newspaper is just kinda making this up. ::)
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??? Hmmm - this is the first article / headline I've seen to just come right out and say it:
Life on Mars found, thanks to Phoenix Lander (http://voices.kansascity.com/node/1692)
I suspect they may actually be right, yet I suspect the newspaper is just kinda making this up. ::)
well they changed the title but yes they have found water signs...isn't that one of the accepted signs that life may have been there at some point?
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:D The Cochrane review was published this week! ;D
Behavioral interventions to reduce risk for sexual transmission of HIV among men who have sex with men (http://www.mrw.interscience.wiley.com/cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001230/frame.html)
:-\ PS Dang just found out you can't see it outside my office!! Well, just take my word for it then, it's real good! :laugh:
will we ever get to see it??
(not that I would understand it but I would like to SEE it)
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will we ever get to see it??
(not that I would understand it but I would like to SEE it)
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! I SEE IT!!
dichotomous??
chi-squared????
heterogeneity!!!???
THANK THE LORT!!
Plain language summary
well, I didnt' understand a lot of it (cause I dont know that science language thang you got going on...) but I did understand the gist of it I think....
You done good!
but I don't understand why there is a difference between white men and men of color...do you have any idea why HIV prevention education doesn't work as well??
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Good question. In some other analyses it looks like interventions that are designed for and delivered to African American MSM work well. But in most of these studies, men of color were only, say something like 10% of the sample.
The problem may be that for various reasons, the men of color in majority white studies feel isolated and don't feel like the intervention is really addressing them. For example the characters in videos may be white, or most of the people in their small group meeting are white, and they don't feel like they are facing the same set of issues, so they don't connect as well.
I think as a gay man I often feel the same way about messages for straight audiences. It's not that I don't like it or whatever, it just doesn't seem to apply to me. If I know the message is for me, then I'm brought into it and get invested in following through.
Just a hypothesis for now ...
Gotta run - hope you're having a good evening Miz Jess!! :-* :-*
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Good question. In some other analyses it looks like interventions that are designed for and delivered to African American MSM work well.
The problem may be that for various reasons, the men of color in majority white studies don't feel like the intervention is really addressing them. For example the characters in videos may be white, or most of the people in their small group meeting are white, and they don't feel like they are facing the same set of issues, so they don't connect as well.
I think as a gay man I often feel the same way about messages for straight audiences. It's not that I don't like it or whatever, it just doesn't seem to apply to me.
Just a hypothesis for now ...
it has only been in the last few years that I have started noticing commercials and such using people of color and it makes me think of how THEY must have felt all those years when all the models were white.
That does sound like a good hypothesis...(HA! I know that one!!)
I wonder also if it might also be cultural? do you see a difference in white men that live in cities for example vs men that live in rural areas?
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Once again, it's time for Mildly Homoerotic FridazeR !!!!
Robert "Babs" deNiro and Martin Scorsese:
(http://pics.livejournal.com/padpedpladuk/pic/000ea488)
Which one was the....oh never mind......
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:D :D New Chris flick!!! ;D :-* :-*
Edible Island host Chris Fischer whips up a lobster and local greens salad on Today in the Vineyard from Menemsha.
http://vineyard.plumtv.com/videos/chris_fischer_cooks
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:D If they get married his name can be Mark Knight :D (http://pinkisthenewblog.com/home/a-toast-to-the-mark-knight/)
(http://pinkisthenewblog.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/071808_markknightkiss.jpg)
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:o ??? :D ;D ;D ;D ;D OM GOMOGOVOMGOMGOMGOGMOGMOMOMOMGOGGOM Shakes !!! :laugh:
From Ted and Lisa's Excellent Adventure with Jake:
It’s a real shame these old industrial buildings get torn down, but this one is great. (http://dontwanttosaygb.livejournal.com/9144.html)
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They gone tear down the Adluh Flour Building! Well Shit! :P
Wonder do my mamma still have that sack I bought her.
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:D SHakes, Jake seen Hulda's factory!!! ;D
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??? Sorry, I think that quote gave the wrong impression! I don't think they're gonna tear it down. I think they meant a lot of others been torn down, but this one hatten, and that that's a good thing! :-\ :-\
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I don't think they'd tear down Hulda's factory. What would they do with the 5th graders for ... sheesh, what do they call it anyway? Field day?
The main point is, Adluh flour, upon which you and I have so often commented, has now also been commented on by Jake. ;D
So anyway how's the beach?!?! Kitty Hawk! ;D ;)
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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:D :D New Chris flick!!! ;D :-* :-*
Edible Island host Chris Fischer whips up a lobster and local greens salad on Today in the Vineyard from Menemsha.
http://vineyard.plumtv.com/videos/chris_fischer_cooks
OOOO!! It is a ten minute segment and he is making a salad with stuff from his garden! (and his sister is there helping!)
soooo cute! he keeps eating all the ingredients and the host says "We won't have anything to make the salad with!"
and he is barefooted! (cause they are on the beach!)
(he also doesnt' like that woman on the left either...you can tell. LOL! :o )
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Well I am so glad Hulda's mill has been saved! I have been reading Lisa's account but I am a powerful slow reader and have only gotten to the part where Paul Rubens shows up.
Imagine Wayne, our Adluh mystically connected with PeeWee Herman!
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Well there is nothing on youtube about Adluh, but I did find this:
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKAW96N-Vms[/youtube]
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and he is barefooted! (cause they are on the beach!)
:D And the crate labeled MOUNTAIN FRUIT must be an allusion to ...
ME !!!! :D ;D ;) :-* :-*
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:D :D :D
Jul 21, 2008 ... Chris Fischer talks about how his life as a chef began, and his past job at Chef Mario Battali's restaurant in New York (http://vineyard.plumtv.com/videos/chris_fischer_edible_island)
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Well there is nothing on youtube about Adluh, but I did find this:
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKAW96N-Vms[/youtube]
??? :laugh: speaking of mountain fruit! Wonder what keywords you used to find this ... !?? :laugh:
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Gays in Iraq terrorized by threats, rape, murder (http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/07/24/gay.iraqis/index.html?iref=hpmostpop)
Coming out as gay is not easy in any country, but to do so in Iraq could mean a death sentence or torture.
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IMHO, the US should invite them here, since we made things so much worse for them in Iraq.
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IMHO, the US should invite them here, since we made things so much worse for them in Iraq.
I do think it is a reason for asylum...
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??? :laugh: :laugh: read the sign behind his head ... some kind of product placement ?!? ;D
:D :D :D
Jul 21, 2008 ... Chris Fischer talks about how his life as a chef began, and his past job at Chef Mario Battali's restaurant in New York (http://vineyard.plumtv.com/videos/chris_fischer_edible_island)
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:) :-*
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:D <a href="">Jesus makes me happy![/url]
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Hmmm.
Bill to require all Guantanamo prisoners to be relocated to the Supreme Court building, or else cut the budget of the Department of Defense by 50% (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-6615)
And this bill was written by ...
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Did "somebody we know" put him up to this?! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: (http://gohmert.house.gov/)
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Hmmm.
Bill to require all Guantanamo prisoners to be relocated to the Supreme Court building, or else cut the budget of the Department of Defense by 50% (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-6615)
And this bill was written by ...
(http://www.govtrack.us/data/photos/400651-100px.jpeg)
Did "somebody we know" put him up to this?! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: (http://gohmert.house.gov/)
ok I dont EVEN understand the part about Gohmert (he is my congressman by the way) what did he do?
and on a side note can I have a copy of your favorites? cause you have ALL the GOOD sites on your computer!
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It's gonna be DOOMSDAY!
again!
http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/comment/story.html?id=fff69bc3-db9f-41da-9325-3d2e790e1450&p=1 (http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/comment/story.html?id=fff69bc3-db9f-41da-9325-3d2e790e1450&p=1)
First, there's "The Black Hole That Ate Planet Earth." A worried group of physicists is warning about the massive atom smasher ready to begin operations in Geneva. The Large Hadron Collider, as it's known, is meant to allow experiments that would throw light on the Big Bang. But there are fears it might actually create one.
The particle beams fired by the machine collide with the energy of a 400-tonne train doing 180 km/h. It's theoretically possible this could create a black hole that would swallow the planet.
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:D Large Hardon Collider? I can't wait - when does it start?!? ;D ;)
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ok I dont EVEN understand the part about Gohmert (he is my congressman by the way) what did he do?
He's trying to be a smart aleck about that mean ole liberruhl Supreme Court that says the Guantanamo prisoners are entitled to a fair trial.
But he included a bizarre enforcement clause that would cut the Defense budget by half.
I say let's go for it!!!! :D :laugh: :laugh:
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"My other Pakistani home on Mars," courtesy of Kenny Irwin.
"I had no idea there was such a thing as Pakistani sci-fi geek outsider art; now I do, and I'm psyched." (http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/07/extraterrestria.html)
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I hear tell there's a media briefing going on right now about the Mars Phoenix mission, to the effect that they have verified water ice right there in their scoop, and that there is a good bit of similar soil around Mars so that's nice.
While we're on Mars, THE FACE IS BACK! ;D (http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_show.html?show=Face&picture=thumbnail.jpg)
(http://marsesa.9f.com/slide_shows/Face/thumbnails/th_CYD335N.jpg)
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oh NO!! Not the FACE!!!
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It is like a cross betwixt Prince Valient and the Shroud of Turin.
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:D hmm...
Mars becomes the buzz in cyberspace (http://www.theage.com.au/world/mars-becomes-the-buzz-in-cyberspace-20080804-3pxp.html)
Richard Macey
August 5, 2008 [ <<--- :D the news from tomorrow! ;D]
SPACE websites are abuzz with speculation about what NASA's latest Mars probe may have found.
The excitement has been triggered by the respected journal Aviation Week claiming the space agency has alerted the White House to "major new Phoenix lander discoveries concerning the 'potential for life' ". NASA has said little about the claims, although it has used the social networking site Twitter to play down the reports.
The magazine did say it was not life that had been discovered but evidence relating to the planet's "habitability". It strongly hinted that an announcement, perhaps next month, would be far more dramatic than last week's news that Phoenix had confirmed there was water ice on the planet.
More details and links at Wired.com (http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/08/rumors-abound-a.html)
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::) Probbly be "oh there's magnesium and zinc on Mars" again. :laugh:
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Well at least the martian's noses won't get sun burnt.
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far more dramatic than last week's news that Phoenix had confirmed there was water ice on the planet.
:P Pffft.
We are asked to believe that this "far more dramatic news" is that Mars is Less Habitable Than Previously Thought (http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/08/report-mars-les.html). ::)
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:D hmm...
Mars becomes the buzz in cyberspace (http://www.theage.com.au/world/mars-becomes-the-buzz-in-cyberspace-20080804-3pxp.html)
Richard Macey
August 5, 2008 [ <<--- :D the news from tomorrow! ;D]
SPACE websites are abuzz with speculation about what NASA's latest Mars probe may have found.
The excitement has been triggered by the respected journal Aviation Week claiming the space agency has alerted the White House to "major new Phoenix lander discoveries concerning the 'potential for life' ". NASA has said little about the claims, although it has used the social networking site Twitter to play down the reports.
The magazine did say it was not life that had been discovered but evidence relating to the planet's "habitability". It strongly hinted that an announcement, perhaps next month, would be far more dramatic than last week's news that Phoenix had confirmed there was water ice on the planet.
More details and links at Wired.com (http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/08/rumors-abound-a.html)
I LOVE news from the future! It is so futuristic!
what you think they found Widgee?
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what you think they found Widgee?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Perchlorate-3D-vdW.png/200px-Perchlorate-3D-vdW.png) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perchlorate)
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Perchlorate. This is interesting:
Lithium perchlorate, which decomposes exothermically to give oxygen, is used in oxygen "candles" on spacecraft, submarines and in other esoteric situations where a reliable backup or supplementary oxygen supply is needed.
See Chemical oxygen generator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_oxygen_generator)
This is the same stuff they use for oxygen masks on airplanes and starships.
So there's water on Mars, and there's a chemical oxygen generator too. :D
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Sort of funny - the news coverage is focusing on this being "bad" news because perchlorate in the soil means the soil is less likely to currently contain living organisms.
There is to be a press briefing at 2pm today. We'll see if they mention the oxygen thing. ;)
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Why, I remember Daddy sayin 30 years ago, "Maybe they'll find some kind of rock on Mars that, when combined with chemical reagents, releases oxygen." :)
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Why, I remember Daddy sayin 30 years ago, "Maybe they'll find some kind of rock on Mars that, when combined with chemical reagents, releases oxygen." :)
Your Daddy must have seen that movie Robinson Caruso on Mars. He did something similar.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljQi4_ZUrKU[/youtube]
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Your Daddy must have seen that movie Robinson Caruso on Mars.
:o How on Earth did you find such an appropriate clip?!? :laugh:
My Daddy said ... :laugh:
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Wikipedia quote A:
First, Crusoe burns some coal-like rocks for warmth and accidentally discovers that heating them gives off oxygen. This allows him to refill his air tank and move around in the thin atmosphere. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robinson_Crusoe_on_Mars)
Wikipedia quote B:
Lithium perchlorate, which decomposes exothermically to give oxygen, is used in oxygen "candles" on spacecraft, submarines and in other esoteric situations where a reliable backup or supplementary oxygen supply is needed. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perchlorate)
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:o How on Earth did you find such an appropriate clip?!? :laugh:
My Daddy said ... :laugh:
When I were a young chile they put Serendipity-doo in my hair and it give me the gift!
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So it was the Serendipity-doo!! :o ;D I knew there was something special about you Shakes! ;) :-*
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From the press briefing a few minutes ago ... (http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/08/liveblog-nasa-p.html?cid=125344594#comment-125344594)
"We have substantial evidence that our soil samples has perchlorates." On Earth, the substances are found in the Atacama desert, a common analog for Mars study. Smith says, "They are highly stable and do not destroy life under normal conditions. In fact, there are microbes that live on the energy contained by this oxidant. In itself, it is neither good nor bad for life." (Emphasis added.)
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Sort of funny - the news coverage is focusing on this being "bad" news because perchlorate in the soil means the soil is less likely to currently contain living organisms.
There is to be a press briefing at 2pm today. We'll see if they mention the oxygen thing. ;)
but even if all we find is fossils...that is still HUGE, Wayne....it would be proof we are not alone. not the end of God's creation but just a part.
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Yeah. :) My guess is panspermia. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia) I suspect life survives in rocks in space that rain down now and again and seed planets at random. Bacteria, a few sea monkeys. Hey, they survive being sent through the US mail. :laugh:
Our current sun and solar system are maybe the 3rd or 4th generation in this region. The same rock, metals, and gases have re-exploded and re-coalesced several times into stars and planets. Maybe life evolved on planets circling suns that have long since gone nova. Doesn't explain how it came to be in the first place, but it does suggest that there may have been a longer history to life than the 4.5 billion years since the Earth came into being.
The universe is not that much older - 14 billion years (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_universe) but there could have been 2 or 3 generations of sun and planets here before the current configuration.
A bit like Jurassic Park 2: Something has survived. ;)
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Oooh, that reminds me! I worked out my cosmology last weekend.
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I have been wondering what happened before the Big Bang, and I'm guessing that it occurred where two former universes collided.
Each of them had been produced by its own Big Bang, at great distances apart. Each of them expanded from their own Big Bang into vast empty space. But then their outer, more or less spherical edges approached each other and eventually "touched". Of course, a universe is itself mostly empty space between galaxies, which are themselves mostly empty space between stars, so there wasn't a lot of real contact at first.
But a point of intersection became a growing disc of intersection between the two. No big deal for a very very long time.
As matter and energy continued to spread from each of the two big bangs, the intersecting area became denser than the rest of the space occupied by the two universes. With its own gravity, it began to pull in matter and energy from the two universes.
A long time passed.
The disk-shaped intersection probably acquired some spin as a result of the net spin of the two universes, unless they just happened to perfectly cancel each other out.
The growing mass began to pull more and more of the two universes in, and began to collapse on itself from its own gravity.
It became so dense that there was no more space between the galaxies, then no more space between the stars, then no more space between the atoms.
Then electrons began to collapse from the "shells" they normally occupy right down into the atomic nuclei, and matter changed to "plasma" under the great pressure.
That collapse continued until the total amount of matter and energy in the exceedingly dense ball crossed some threshold. And then it exploded, and that was our Big Bang.
And that original spinning disk is reflected in the "hotter" yellow and red spots in the map of the outer shell of the universe above.
At least that's what I think right now. :)
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I think you think more about stuff than me....and it is interesting to read what you DO think.
It hurts my head to think too much about the 'universe' and what might be outside it. Cause how could something be outside the universe if the universe is everything?
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hmmmmm!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7543776.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7543776.stm)
why dont' I ever discover something?
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Well, our universe is limited by what can be seen by telescopes. And what can be seen by a scope is limited by the speed of light.
The current understanding is the Big Bang happened 13.7 billion years ago, and I've read that galaxies have been identified that are 12 to 13 billion light-years away. That means the light we are seeing left those galaxies 12 to 13 billion years ago, so we are seeing them as they were in the first billion years or so after the BB.
Beyond that, there is a sphere of haze. There were no galaxies yet to send out any light. Presumably that haze prevents us from seeing any farther. So our universe more or less coincides with "everything produced by our Big Bang."
One could imagine though, that a clear enough spot could exist in the sphere of haze that you could see through it, and beyond to the product of another Big Bang. Probably just a dot, but a whole nother universe, as it existed many billions of years ago.
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where two former universes collided.
Another possibility would be that two universes expanding and intersecting would not provide enough material to reach the critical mass necessary for a Big Bang. After all, they both resulted from their own Big Bangs, which must have occurred when they reached critical mass, and more than half of the material of those universes is heading either away from the intersection or out at a perpendicular or close to perpendicular angle.
So in that case maybe a third universe comes in as a trigger.
Probably don't need a fourth universe. :laugh:
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why don't I ever discover something?
;D Well then here's what you should discover! See if you can discover another universe.
The strategy would be to look through the least hazy part of the shell of our universe. That would be the dark blue parts near the center and the right side of the big oval on the previous page.
Probly won't look like much more than a dot. One way you could tell if it's another universe, instead of a star or a galaxy in our universe, would be if it had a blue shift (meaning it's coming toward us) instead of a red shift (meaning it's going away from us). Everything in our universe has a red shift, because the whole universe is spreading apart.
Actually it probably wouldn't have a blue shift, it would just have no shift.
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The other thing about the blue map is it might help us discern whether 2 universes collided or 3. If there was just one band of yellow, that would indicate an intersection of 2 spheres.
2 spheres could also be indicated by one band (like an "equator") and 2 additional concentrations at the "poles" - this would correspond to mass coming from the center of the two previous universes.
If it's one band of yellow and then some other mess that might indicate 2 spheres plus a trigger. It's kinda hard to say but it looks like there's more mess, so for now I'm going with the 3rd universe trigger hypothesis. 8)
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Well, our universe is limited by what can be seen by telescopes. And what can be seen by a scope is limited by the speed of light.
The current understanding is the Big Bang happened 13.7 billion years ago, and I've read that galaxies have been identified that are 12 to 13 billion light-years away. That means the light we are seeing left those galaxies 12 to 13 billion years ago, so we are seeing them as they were in the first billion years or so after the BB.
Beyond that, there is a sphere of haze. There were no galaxies yet to send out any light. Presumably that haze prevents us from seeing any farther. So our universe more or less coincides with "everything produced by our Big Bang."
One could imagine though, that a clear enough spot could exist in the sphere of haze that you could see through it, and beyond to the product of another Big Bang. Probably just a dot, but a whole nother universe, as it existed many billions of years ago.
ok then...
my sister and I had an argument and I don't know anybody smart enough around here to take my side...
She is smart in that she can remember stuff...she is a nurse, and is good. but she doesnt' do well with thinking ?critically?...she can't take information and make a logical ok, she doesn't believe in natural sciences....for example, we never walked on the moon, there were no dinosaurs, and (this is the one that really drives me nuts) she doesn't believe light 'travels'. It is either on or off.
so we were discussing the stars and I was trying to explain that the light we see is from a long time ago because the stars are so far away it took a long time for it to arrive here...She said: no the light we are seeing is the actual light that the star is giving off right now, this minute.
well I TRIED to make an analogy with water....that if you turned on a hose and let it run for a minute, then turned it off, the water IN the hose already wouldn't just disappear...it would run out the end...she wouldn't accept that analogy because light is not water.. ::)
so then we got off into what IS light...(I know, I know: dumb and dumber trying to talk astronomy) and she said: If you have a light bulb that is sealed in a light proof box and you turned it on for a minute then turned it off and left it for a year, when you come back and opened it the light still wouldn't be in there...
so (she says) how could light from a star still exist millions of years later?
do YOU know? cause I am stumped.... :P :P
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Jess you need the Grand Ole' Opry analogy.
Remember when we were kids and our grandparents would tell us they live so fa out in the country that the Saturday Night Show on the Grand Ole' Opry wouldn't reach them until Sunday morning?
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Jess you need the Grand Ole' Opry analogy.
Remember when we were kids and our grandparents would tell us they live so fa out in the country that the Saturday Night Show on the Grand Ole' Opry wouldn't reach them until Sunday morning?
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:laugh: Well, it is kinda like the Grand Ole Opry...
If you wait out in your yard to hear the sound from the G. O. O., the sound travels at 1100 feet per second, so it would take a while. Course the problem is it would be completely damped out by all the other noises going on, so you actually don't hear anything at all that has come from the G. O. O. Lessn you turn your radio on. ;)
Light travels at 186,000 miles per second, quite a good bit faster. And because there's not much in space to interfere with light traveling, we can actually see light that has trageled for 12 or 13 billion years before it arrives here.
Also "they" only recently established that gravity travels at just about the same speed as light. :o
But yeah Jess you're right and your sister is wrong - you should probably just tell her that. :laugh:
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:D Oh, here's some proof that your sister can actually witness her own self. You know how when Anderson Cooper is in New York and Wolf Blitzer is in Baghdad? And when Anderson finishes talking and Wolf just kind of sits there like he's still listening but Anderson isn't talking any more?
Well that's the speed of light problem. In fact it happens twice. 1st, Wolf has to wait a little longer than we do to hear what Anderson says because for the signal to reach Wolf it has to go much farther - up to the satellite (and I'm guessing it then goes from there to another satellite) and then back down 6000 miles away, while it's only 1372 miles from New York to Dallas.
Then in the 2nd step, the image of Wolf has to return from Baghdad to Anderson and then to Dallas.
So what we see is Wolf still listening to the signal that has traveled to Baghdad at the speed of light*, while we have already heard the end of Anderson's question, which also traveled to us at the speed of light*.
Even though he has already started talking over there, we don't see him speak for another second or so.
*Except for the first little distance from Anderson to the microphone, and the last little distance between the TV speaker and our ear.
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Same thing happens sometimes..............when people are on thorizine.......... ;D
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4s4hW-oGZ0[/youtube]
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;D I updated the name of the thread ... :laugh:
Hope y'all are having a good evenin'!
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:D Oh, here's some proof that your sister can actually witness her own self. You know how when Anderson Cooper is in New York and Wolf Blitzer is in Baghdad? And when Anderson finishes talking and Wolf just kind of sits there like he's still listening but Anderson isn't talking any more?
Well that's the speed of light problem. In fact it happens twice. 1st, Wolf has to wait a little longer than we do to hear what Anderson says because for the signal to reach Wolf it has to go much farther - up to the satellite (and I'm guessing it then goes from there to another satellite) and then back down 6000 miles away, while it's only 1372 miles from New York to Dallas.
Then in the 2nd step, the image of Wolf has to return from Baghdad to Anderson and then to Dallas.
So what we see is Wolf still listening to the signal that has traveled to Baghdad at the speed of light*, while we have already heard the end of Anderson's question, which also traveled to us at the speed of light*.
Even though he has already started talking over there, we don't see him speak for another second or so.
*Except for the first little distance from Anderson to the microphone, and the last little distance between the TV speaker and our ear.
that is cool!
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Let us know if you convert her to believing in the speed of light. ;)
To me it's spooky that gravity has a speed. ???
I mean, if all there was in the universe was 2 stars sitting still, and they were 1 light year apart, and then star A decided to move, the gravitational effect would not arrive at star B until a year later. :-\ ???
Weird.
But at least light and gravity are consistent, since this would be just about exactly the same time that somebody standing on star B would see star A move.
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Well that is a good name. I like it.
Jess, maybe you all orta stick to things you can agree on, like I am sure you all got some aent you share an opinion on.
SOmeone axed me today if I had cable tv because there was something on Oxygen I needed to see. I said no, but I do have an uncle who is on Oxygen.
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Well that is a good name. I like it.
Jess, maybe you all orta stick to things you can agree on, like I am sure you all got some aent you share an opinion on.
SOmeone axed me today if I had cable tv because there was something on Oxygen I needed to see. I said no, but I do have an uncle who is on Oxygen.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
well she and I dont' talk much at all anymore. And when we do talk we try to keep it as light and airy as possible.
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I was thinking a little more about Wolf and Anderson last night and I think I might be mistaken :-\ :laugh:
The extra distance that the signal has to travel may not be far enough to account for the delay. The distance is something more than 12,000 miles (New York-Baghdad round trip), but even if it was 20,000 miles that would only be 20,000/186,000= about 1/9th of a second, and the delay seems longer than that.
I'm guessing there are probably some delays within the satellites etc as the message is received and then forwarded on to the next machine.
Anyhow, I still believe in the speed of light! :laugh:
Hope y'all are having a great day :-*
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ok this completely freaks me out, Wayne....completely.
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ok sorry Wayne but I got another conundrum...
I have a friend that lives in Australia....and SHE says it is already tomorrow there. Ok fine.. I will accept that...
but NOW she is claiming that she came to the US and GOT HERE BEFORE SHE LEFT AUSTRALIA!!
is that like messing with the whole time space continuum? What if she was watching a surveillance video of the Aussie airport..would she see herself? and what if something happened to her at the airport, would she feel it on the plane?
and then she went back and LOST a day (she says) so where was she? Where was the plane? like we were all going about our day and she wasn't 'here' with us....
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I am a little freaked out.
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ok this completely freaks me out, Wayne....completely.
you are freaked out? What about the cat!!
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Woman gets kicked out of Kentucky mall because people's husbands was looking at her (http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/26820379.html)
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Woman gets kicked out of Kentucky mall because people's husbands was looking at her (http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/26820379.html)
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I think that is just a crying shame...bless her little heart...
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:-\ This was supposed to be over already. :'(
Georgian villages burned and looted as Russian tanks advance (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/13/georgia.russia7)
"People are fleeing, there is a mood of absolute panic. The idea there is a ceasefire is ridiculous," Luke Harding, the Guardian's correspondent, said.
The tanks had passed through the village of Rekha at about 11.20am local time. "Behind them (say eyewitnesses) is a whole column of irregulars who locals say are Chechens, Cossacks and Ossetians.
"Eyewitnesses say they are looting, killing and burning. These irregulars have killed three people and set fire to villages. They have been taking away young boys and girls," said Harding, watching smoke rise from another village, Karaleti.
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;D
Edible Island - Fishing with the Fischer family (http://vineyard.plumtv.com/videos/edible_island_-_fishing_molly_and_dad)
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:D
Edible Island - the Farmers Market (http://vineyard.plumtv.com/videos/edible_island_-_farmers_market)
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Edible Island - the Farmers Market (http://vineyard.plumtv.com/videos/edible_island_-_farmers_market)
Chris?? where are the JEANS!!??
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"Just Ralph, me, and Ethel. And maybe Jake." ;)
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"Just Ralph, me, and Ethel. And maybe Jake." ;)
Definitely Jake!
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Definitely Jake!
;) Chris manages to say that not once but twice in the "Farmer's market" video. I assume that Jake is the name of the grandson of the couple he's working with, but it's nice just the same. ;D
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:o Oooh, and check this out! There's an analysis of the WMAP data suggesting polarity! :D
Bayesian analysis of sparse anisotropic universe models and application to the 5-yr WMAP data (http://arxiv.org/abs/0807.2242)
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The oval image represents the sphere of the sky around us. It's a bit distorted to make it fit onto a flat image.
Imagine printing that out, and pulling the sides around to make a cyilinder. Then you put an appropriate size ball inside the cylinder and stretch it around a bit so the picture fits around the ball.
We are in the center of the ball, and what you see in the image represents this very low-level radiation that is the remnant of the big bang.
What the red dots show is that there is a polarity to the big bang. Like the north and south poles of the globe - sort of though not really a top and a bottom.
So in the big bang, there was more going on in those two directions than elsewhere.
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Why?
Type SLOWER!
why would that big bang go in TWO specific directions rather than all around evenly?
Unless whatever was smushed together to make the Big Bang wasnt' symmetrical? At first I thought it would HAVE to have been because of gravity and rotation but there are objects in OUR solar system that are not symmetrical..
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or maybe we are all wrong and these guys are right...
http://fixedearth.com/ (http://fixedearth.com/)
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Why?
Type SLOWER!
why would that big bang go in TWO specific directions rather than all around evenly?
Unless whatever was smushed together to make the Big Bang wasn't symmetrical?
:D Right, that's just what I was thinking too!
So now, the authors don't say this in the article, but in Cowboy Cosmology (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,2962.msg392961.html#msg392961), the polarity of that radiation is consistent with this scenario:
Before our big bang, there were two other big bangs. (And probably lots of others, but the others don't matter right now.) Those 2 big bangs produced 2 "universes" very much like our own, with galaxies and stars and such. Just like our universe (which I define not as "everything there is" but as the product of our big bang), their universes did not contain enough energy and mass to stop their expansion and collapse back into a ball, so they went on expanding out for what must have seemed like forever.
But eventually they came in contact with each other. A disk formed where they overlapped, and it was no big deal for a long time. But as they expanded, more and more material was flying in that direction (merely because it was expanding from the 2 previous big bangs) until it began to collect enough mass to collapse in on itself and form a black hole.
More and more mass and energy came toward the black hole until its own gravity began to pull from the other two universes. The pressure became so great that the nature of matter and energy changed from atoms as we know them (where electrons fly around protons with mostly empty space) so that there was no more space between the nuclei and the electrons.
This very very massive thing started pulling the two previous "universes" toward it until eventually it pulled enough material so that it crossed some threshhold of pressure and it asploded! :o
And the greater mass that was coming from the two opposite directions became the polarity in the WMAP that we can see above.
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or maybe we are all wrong and these guys are right...
http://fixedearth.com/ (http://fixedearth.com/)
(http://fixedearth.com/Image16.gif)
:o How do they make it hang there? No strings or anything?!?
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I think it is magnets, but exactly how I dunno.
I know I saw this commercial on tv last night for a device that would let you hang upside down and decompress your spine and my back has been hurtin' ever since.
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I know I saw this commercial on tv last night for a device that would let you hang upside down and decompress your spine and my back has been hurtin' ever since.
:-\ You probably shooten watch that channel any more!
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I ain't, soon as I get this video up I am gone go clean my car.
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:D Right, that's just what I was thinking too!
So now, the authors don't say this in the article, but in Cowboy Cosmology (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,2962.msg392961.html#msg392961), the polarity of that radiation is consistent with this scenario:
Before our big bang, there were two other big bangs. (And probably lots of others, but the others don't matter right now.) Those 2 big bangs produced 2 "universes" very much like our own, with galaxies and stars and such. Just like our universe (which I define not as "everything there is" but as the product of our big bang), their universes did not contain enough energy and mass to stop their expansion and collapse back into a ball, so they went on expanding out for what must have seemed like forever.
But eventually they came in contact with each other. A disk formed where they overlapped, and it was no big deal for a long time. But as they expanded, more and more material was flying in that direction (merely because it was expanding from the 2 previous big bangs) until it began to collect enough mass to collapse in on itself and form a black hole.
More and more mass and energy came toward the black hole until its own gravity began to pull from the other two universes. The pressure became so great that the nature of matter and energy changed from atoms as we know them (where electrons fly around protons with mostly empty space) so that there was no more space between the nuclei and the electrons.
This very very massive thing started pulling the two previous "universes" toward it until eventually it pulled enough material so that it crossed some threshhold of pressure and it asploded! :o
And the greater mass that was coming from the two opposite directions became the polarity in the WMAP that we can see above.
well that would make sense....but I feel bad for the other two universes....just think there was probably planets like ours just going about their business and BOOM....they got sucked off into a black hole.. :-\
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:o How do they make it hang there? No strings or anything?!?
nope. I dont' think so...cause Those guys didn't find any when they went to the North Pole.
but here is the thing....we have had planes going real high and we have telescopes you would think they woulda noticed that big ol stand wouldn't they??
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nope. I dont' think so...cause Those guys didn't find any when they went to the North Pole.
Reminds me of the first time I opened up the short story Brokeback Mountain, and read:
"all the way to the north pole or the equator
depending which way you thought you were sailing"
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I feel bad for the other two universes....just think there was probably planets like ours just going about their business and BOOM....they got sucked off into a black hole.. :-\
:-\ Yeah. "Honey, did you read in the paper today abouuuuuuuuuuuuuuutttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
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:-\ Yeah. "Honey, did you read in the paper today abouuuuuuuuuuuuuuutttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
:laugh: :-X :(
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:) Particle Physics Rap
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM[/youtube]
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huh?
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
It was like a light almost came on for a minute...
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A nice picture. Tie-dye sky by jimhankey (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimhankey/2773904304/)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3243/2773904304_8abfd72b08.jpg?v=1219159697)
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A cat named simply (http://www.flickr.com/photos/urswachter/2716065223/)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2716065223_9d03067f6f.jpg?v=0)
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NYC yesterday. It's bigger here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scotthudson/2777105084/)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3170/2777105084_e4c98c5d38_m.jpg)
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A nice picture. Tie-dye sky by jimhankey (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimhankey/2773904304/)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3243/2773904304_8abfd72b08.jpg?v=1219159697)
this is a PICTURE!? not a painting? WOW...
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(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/funny-pictures-itty-bitty-sleepy-committee.jpg)
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A nice picture. Tie-dye sky by jimhankey (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimhankey/2773904304/)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3243/2773904304_8abfd72b08.jpg?v=1219159697)
Thats incredibly beautiful!
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:D Hey Jess and Rich! Glad you enjoyed the photo too - not mine by the way, just something I ran across on the web. Hope you're having a great day! :) :-*
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'notha one. ;)
(http://i35.tinypic.com/do4f28.jpg)
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ibsc
:D Awwww!!
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Did I get them all?!? :D
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People are always claiming they have an image of Jesus on something, no one ever says they have an image of Bob Segar.
(http://www.blender.com/gallery_photos/LA/bob_seger.jpg)
(http://sharpiron.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/classic-jesus.jpg)
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:laugh: Zactly. The Brown Jesus probably looks more like Segar than like the A.D. 26 Jesus anyway. Sez right there in the Bible that men did not have long hair in those days.
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Speaking of long luxurious tresses, if yours look like this then don't steal $150,000 worth of hair tongs and sell them on e-Bay cause they are liablest to take your picture and put it on the Internets! :-\ :'( (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7572248.stm)
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44854000/jpg/_44854233_mark_mcmorrine_226.jpg)
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:) Much better. :) :)
(http://www.afterelton.com/sites/www.afterelton.com/files/trmarkcuddleyoga.jpg)
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:D Awwww!!
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Did I get them all?!? :D
yep each and every one!
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:) Much better. :) :)
(http://www.afterelton.com/sites/www.afterelton.com/files/trmarkcuddleyoga.jpg)
oh how sweet...who are they?
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:) The guy on the left is TR Knight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.R._Knight) from Grey's Anatomy and the other guy is his boyfriend. ;D
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It will be a happier world when we can see Anderson, Jake and George in their natural surroundings. :)
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Though I've really bout given up on that. I think the only reason TR can get away with it is because he can sue, because Isaiah Washington called him a bad name. >:( :P :P
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:) The guy on the left is TR Knight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.R._Knight) from Grey's Anatomy and the other guy is his boyfriend. ;D
oh! I didn't recognise him...I was too busy looking at his handsome bf!
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It will be a happier world when we can see Anderson, Jake and George in their natural surroundings. :)
Anderson is SOOO cute!
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Though I've really bout given up on that. I think the only reason TR can get away with it is because he can sue, because Isaiah Washington called him a bad name. >:( :P :P
Isaiah was NOT nice!
>:( >:(
maybe someone will call Anderson a bad name....IF he had a boyfriend do you know what HE would look like?
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TR was always one of my small handful of favorite guys I wished would come out. And sure enough! ;D
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One of the others was the cute one from the B-52s, and sure enough.
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IF he had a boyfriend do you know what HE would look like?
Now that's a GREAT idea!! :laugh: :laugh:
Man oh man ...
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I mean, the world is sorely lacking in images of men being affectionate together. All images of men have to show them fighting, just to prove they aren't gay. ::) The images promote violence.
And the truth is, men are *not* always out to hurt each other. But it's what we're taught.
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The oh-so-heterosexual Ricky Martin is a new dad of twins today (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b24752_ricky_martin_dad_times_two.html), by way of his oh so heterosexual relationship with the surrogate mother.
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I mean, the world is sorely lacking in images of men being affectionate together. All images of men have to show them fighting, just to prove they aren't gay. ::) The images promote violence.
And the truth is, men are *not* always out to hurt each other. But it's what we're taught.
yes, even pics of fathers and sons where they are being affectionate would be nice.
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I am oh so sick of the oh so fricking closet!!! :P
Well, gotta run. CYL !
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I am oh so sick of the oh so fricking closet!!! :P
I wish we had a big name action hero come out...not naming any names....
yeah, the closet is so ridiculous these days. I just dont' see that it would really matter that much. Not in the movies and all...
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here is a sweet picture of a dad and son
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3201/2770115525_d186d9a525.jpg)
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:) Aww! That's nice.
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OK well this isn't on the fathers and sons topic but anyhow. :)
Yoda (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1046684/Meet-Yoda-cat-FOUR-ears.html)
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/08/19/article-1046684-025653A200000578-232_468x699.jpg)
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;D
(http://media.jesusoftheweek.com/2444804.0.jpg)
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;D
(http://media.jesusoftheweek.com/2444804.0.jpg)
awww DRATS, Truman....
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OK well this isn't on the fathers and sons topic but anyhow. :)
Yoda (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1046684/Meet-Yoda-cat-FOUR-ears.html)
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/08/19/article-1046684-025653A200000578-232_468x699.jpg)
ohhhh! does he have TWO sets of ears??
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I bet that cat can hear the future.
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Wayne have you seen this?
what do you think?!!
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ6qftmn6kY&eurl=http://mysterytopia.com/search/label/Ancient%20Mysteries[/youtube]
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Saturn has a hexagon on its pole? how can that happen?
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzL194jiTyY&eurl=http://mysterytopia.com/search/label/Space%20and%20Astronomy[/youtube]
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EEE! Spooky!
voices from Saturn?
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGeWBiLVn8g&feature=related[/youtube]
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drats...I never get to have any fun
http://www.snopes.com/photos/odd/giantman.asp (http://www.snopes.com/photos/odd/giantman.asp)
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WOW!!!
http://mysterytopia.com/2008/08/spectacular-chile-volcano-eruption.html (http://mysterytopia.com/2008/08/spectacular-chile-volcano-eruption.html)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-TskqTch9MQ/SLAsYkMa1qI/AAAAAAAAB5I/AA3IMUW5IZ0/s400-R/4.jpg)
Beautiful but I wouldn't want to be anywhere near it!
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http://mysterytopia.com/2008/08/warp-speed-engine-designed.html (http://mysterytopia.com/2008/08/warp-speed-engine-designed.html)
they designed a Warp engine!
Beam me up, Scotty!
ok not really, I dont' WANT to see no aliens!
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(http://bp2.blogger.com/_-TskqTch9MQ/SIneoEVLSzI/AAAAAAAABbE/geXjB4k78Fk/s400-R/article-1038214-020E154700000578-169_468x286.jpg)
yesterdays sunrise viewed from the space station
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(http://www.veling.nl/anne/templars/egypt-3d.gif)
ancient airplanes??
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:o :D Where'd you find all this cool stuff Miz J? I'll have to catch up! In the meantime ...
Cardinal Newman seems to have been gay, gay, gay! (http://gayswithoutborders.wordpress.com/2008/08/26/gay-hating-catholic-church-plan-to-move-cardinal-john-henry-newmans-body-is-homophobia-says-tatchell/)
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If there be longllama, can amallgnol be far behind?
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/chutzpaw/longllama.jpg)
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(http://kscakes.com.nyud.net:8080/LolCats/Uploads/Saved/and-thats-why-the-lady-is-a-tramp.jpg)
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:o :D Interesting. Asked if there is a BabyTile, Ted C says "Yes." (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/the_awful_truth/b25991_bitch_back_paris_still_sketchy_crotch.html)
Then in the same column, he takes letters from Chris in Texas, and someone else in Austin, Texas.
Does he have some meaning for the word "Yes" that we don't know?!? He is such a tease!! I guess I sort of like that ... :laugh:
Thanks to Oh My Godot for the lead.
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The Legend of Baby Tile arose in March 2007, when Ted said Toothy Tile and his man were thinking about having a baby, apparently with a surrogate mother.
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:o :D Interesting. Asked if there is a BabyTile, Ted C says "Yes." (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/the_awful_truth/b25991_bitch_back_paris_still_sketchy_crotch.html)
Then in the same column, he takes letters from Chris in Texas, and someone else in Austin, Texas.
Does he have some meaning for the word "Yes" that we don't know?!? He is such a tease!! I guess I sort of like that ... :laugh:
Thanks to Oh My Godot for the lead.
:o :o :o
if only!
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Well, it's not a second life for Jack Twist, but it is a Jack Twist for Second Life. :-\ :laugh: (http://ryanschultz.typepad.com/blog/arts_entertainment/)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2404/1577658530_86ac444a17_o.jpg)
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Following on the discussion of perchlorates on Mars ...
sodium chlorate vs the grey aliens! (http://www.marsroverblog.com/images/icon_surprised.gif)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Sodium-chlorate.png/200px-Sodium-chlorate.png) (http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:FGKRZeGh2tO_dM:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Angry-Grey-Alien.png/300px-Angry-Grey-Alien.png)
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they done found a moth with Jesus on its back!
(http://kltv.images.worldnow.com/images/8911069_BG2.jpg)
http://www.kltv.com/Global/category.asp?C=7843&nav=menu117_1 (http://www.kltv.com/Global/category.asp?C=7843&nav=menu117_1)
that man said when the moth moved it looked like Jesus was trying to talk to him.
so he killed it!
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http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,22263.0.html (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,22263.0.html)
was Jesus gay?
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:D Thanks for the update Miz J ! I'm not sure I see Jesus on the moth but it IS a pretty moth. :D
And yes, Jesus was gay. ;)
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Once someone has been in Congress for two terms, they generally stay there until they are either indicted or caught in a sex scandal. (http://www.electoral-vote.com/) :laugh:
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they done found a moth with Jesus on its back!
It says you can buy the moth from them and they are going to relocate the church with the proceeds! :o ??? :laugh:
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:D Thanks for the update Miz J ! I'm not sure I see Jesus on the moth but it IS a pretty moth. :D
And yes, Jesus was gay. ;)
Then maybe PFLAG can adopt the Virgin Mary as an honorary member.
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And of course His Daddy. ;)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Creation_of_the_Sun_and_Moon_face_detail.jpg/180px-Creation_of_the_Sun_and_Moon_face_detail.jpg)
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Democrat pardaaaaayyyy! :laugh: :D ;D
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/0SAJ7JN5VFAWT249NNR2.anigifdel/52655a293dd83d8907715bb13c7dc39d)
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Democrat pardaaaaayyyy! :laugh: :D ;D
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/0SAJ7JN5VFAWT249NNR2.anigifdel/52655a293dd83d8907715bb13c7dc39d)
oh my lort...
:laugh: :laugh: ::) :laugh: :laugh:
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Just interestin', thass all I'm sayin.
"On March 5th, 2008 Alaska's Republican Governor, Sarah Palin, announced to the media that she was 7 months pregnant with her 5th child. She is currently 44.
The controversy arises from two sources: First, Palin does not appear preganant in any recent photographs. The announcement came as quite a shock to people who had worked closely with her, and have been quoted as saying that she did not appear pregnant whatsoever during the prior 7 months. While this is debatable, you can judge for yourself here: http://gov.state.ak.us/photos.php
Second, Palin's daughter Bristol is 16 and attends an Anchorage high school. Students who have attended class with her report that she has been out of school for months, claiming a prolonged case of mono.
Apparently, this rumor has made the rounds in the upper echelon of the Alaska legislature, and is a closely guarded secret. As far as I know, this rumor has not been discussed by any media outlets, in Alaska or otherwise."
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Here are some citations on that. (http://groups.google.com/group/B-Movies/browse_thread/thread/ef95f075a83b2240/79d691b7d1ac0db8?hl=en&lnk=st&q=sarah+palin+pregnancy+daughter#79d691b7d1ac0db8)
Actually I think she's a great choice. If the 'Pubs win I would much rather have her as Veep than Mitts or Huckaby.
But since she's strongly anti-abortion, this would be an interesting conversation if it turns out she's pretending to be the mother when she's actually the grandmother.
And even that is fine.
Just sayin', it would be an interesting example of how difficult and complicated the issue really is. :-\
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Hey Wayne, do you have any more Calamondins?
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:laugh: Why yes, yes I do! Do you need some? I'll check the harvest this weekend.
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:D Veep daughter baby daddy hott! ;) (http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/09/were_sorry_but_palin_babydaddy.html?imw=Y)
(http://images.nymag.com/daily/intel/02_levi_lgl.jpg)
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Oh no!! :'( :'( Thanks for making our world otherwordly Don ...
IN A WORLD ... 'In a world' voiceover master dies at 68 (http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/09/02/obit.lafontaine/)
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/09/02/obit.lafontaine/art.lafontaine.ap.jpg)
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(http://i34.tinypic.com/28iapoi.jpg)
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:D Palin's future son-in-law's sister's Flickr page ... (http://flickr.com/photos/30128128@N04/)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3172/2818965503_8a774d5246_o.jpg)
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(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3158/2819781182_697bbd8e68_o.jpg)
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:D
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3219/2818965283_6e5fce388f_o.jpg)
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(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3197/2819780774_7330354352_o.jpg)
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:laugh: Why yes, yes I do! Do you need some? I'll check the harvest this weekend.
Cool, have any luck?
I hear about the voice over guy passing away from a collapsed lung. Man that is the pits.
Have you ever been to the Whistle Stop Cafe in Juliette, Georgia?
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??? :-\ I am recording this only for myself to check back on.
All the rest of this post is quoted from an ABC reader chat, not my own.
Tuesday, September 2, 2008 Archives Remains of Alaska Separatist Are Identified
Published: October 15, 1994 Fingerprint tests show that human remains found in a gravel pit east of Fairbanks on Wednesday are those of Joe Vogler, the founder of the Alaskan Independence Party, who vanished in May 1993, Alaska state troopers said today.
The discovery of the remains, following an anonymous tip to the authorities, apparently resolves a year-and-a-half-old mystery concerning Mr. Vogler, a folk hero throughout the state who was 80 when he disappeared from his home here.
The blue tarp and duct tape in which the remains were wrapped, officials said, matched a description given by a convicted thief, Manfred West, who confessed last summer that he had killed Mr. Vogler in a plastic-explosives sale gone bad and had then buried him..............
For 10 years Palin and her husband belonged to the Alaskan Independence Party, a radical white separatist organization who wantee to create a separate country out of Alaska. For all the talk about Barack and Michelle Obama's patriotism, John McCain's running mate was a member of a political party that wanted to secede from the United States altogether. It's the kind of idea that would have been more common in the 1850s. Advocating secession is, practically by definition, un-American. How does the right go after Obama's patriotism while supporting a ticket with a candidate who joined a secessionist party?
We are, after all, talking about a party founded by a man who said, "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." The same man, AIP founder Joe Vogler, also said, "The fires of Hell are glaciers compared to my hate for the American government."Complicating matters, Marc Ambinder has a video of a AIP leader explaining that party members "must 'infiltrate' -- his words -- the other two parties and push for the cause of Alaskan independence."
ABC reported: Earlier this year, Palin sent a video message to the AIP for its annual convention, where AIP vice chair George Clark told the small crowd that Palin "was an AIP member before she got the job as a mayor of a small town -- that was a non-partisan job. But you get along to go along -- she eventually joined the Republican Party, where she had all kinds of problems with their ethics, and well, I won't go into that. She also had about an 80 percent approval rating, and is pretty well sympathetic to her former membership in the AIP."
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Walter Hickel was governor of Alaska 1990-1994. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Joseph_Hickel) He was elected as a member of the Alaska Independence Party.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Hickel.gif/225px-Hickel.gif)
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Well, if you come up with some calomondins, let me know.
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McCain greets the father-to-be (or father-already?) ;)
(http://www.huffingtonpost.com//gadgets/slideshows/263/webpix//slide_263_7.jpeg)
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Following up on the separatist party / explosives / governor quote from yesterday, according to Wikipedia, the facts seem to check out:
Palin was a member of this separatist party
the founder of her party was killed while buying illegal explosives a couple of years before the Oklahoma City bombing
the governor of Alaska 1990-1994 was elected as the candidate of this separatist party
The aggressively anti-USA quotes are correct. Think about that when you hear them chanting YOO ESS AY at her tonight.
In my opinion, if somebody wants to be a separatist that's up to them, but then don't go claiming to be a patriot or "someone who loves this country."
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For reference later
Whether Sarah Palin's engaging personality matters more than the fact that she tells lies depends a lot on the media (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/04/politics/animal/main4414049.shtml)
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heh heh. some time back.
Waking Up (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2770064/1/)
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heh heh. some time back.
Waking Up (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2770064/1/)
aww, Wayne....that is so sweet. Thank you for posting the link.
:) :)
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(http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/funny-dog-pictures-a-mother-dog-loves-all-of-her-children.jpg)
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(http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/genetalia.png)
well I know for a fact that THIS one is wrong... ;D ;D ;D
(and they misspelled genitalia)
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:laugh: Lort Jess get that awful thing off your signature! :laugh:
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:D We'll find out tomorrow if the Earth survives !!
Large Hadron Collder to begin operation at 1:30 a.m. CDT on Wednesday, Sept. 10 (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080908140102.htm)
(http://www.sciencedaily.com/images/2008/09/080908140102.jpg)
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Democrats question Fannie, Freddie CEO exit pay (http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN0929070420080909)
U.S. Democrats on Tuesday criticized the 24 imillion dollar pay packages awarded to the former chief executives of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac at a time when taxpayers could foot a massive bill for the companies' bailout.
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:D We'll find out tomorrow if the Earth survives !!
Large Hadron Collder to begin operation at 1:30 a.m. CDT on Wednesday, Sept. 10 (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080908140102.htm)
(http://www.sciencedaily.com/images/2008/09/080908140102.jpg)
okay now you got me skeert...and I CAN"T take it off my signature....it drives all my enemies nuts!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I am picking on them in the Election forum....they make it too easy...all you have to do is misspell a word or say "so and so said X" and ten of them run in to tell you how stupid you are and correct you! It is hilarious!
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:D We'll find out tomorrow if the Earth survives !!
Large Hadron Collder to begin operation at 1:30 a.m. CDT on Wednesday, Sept. 10 (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080908140102.htm)
(http://www.sciencedaily.com/images/2008/09/080908140102.jpg)
did we make it??!!
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did we make it??!!
:-\ Well, Atlanta's still here, but I don't know how fast the black hole is supposed to grow ??? How bout Texas?
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:-\ Well, Atlanta's still here, but I don't know how fast the black hole is supposed to grow ??? How bout Texas?
well unless we all died and went into an alternative universe...we are ok.
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:D Shakes you're making me hungry! You gonna eat the rest of that?!? :P (yum tongue, not blecch tongue)
Jess I reckon as long as we all go to the alternative universe together then that's ok with me. For Science! ;D
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:D Shakes you're making me hungry! You gonna eat the rest of that?!? :P (yum tongue, not blecch tongue)
Jess I reckon as long as we all go to the alternative universe together then that's ok with me. For Science! ;D
Here!! hold on to my hand so we won't get seperated!!
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f330/stepheezpics/holdinghands.jpg)
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Awww!! ;) :-*
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Two fellows consoling each other over the economy. ;) :D (http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=175023)
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That was hilarious!
Thanks for posting that! I needed a laugh. :laugh:
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OMG Wayne that was funny as hell, I had to forward it to a dozen people right away.
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:o :o
<a href="">Ninja cat comes closer while not moving[/url]
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I still think he's hot. ;)
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i217/jagerloverman/meyer4_wideweb__470x3370.jpg)
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:o :o
<a href="">Ninja cat comes closer while not moving[/url]
this is cute!
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:D The cat is playing a game he made up for himself! Awwww....
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OK so here's the first of a handful of reasons I support Obama and the Dems generally:
An analysis by the Tax Policy Center (a nonpartisan research group whose staff of experts includes former economic advisers to the White House and Congress under both Republicans and Democrats) says the wealthiest households would get the biggest tax cuts under McCain, while households with the lowest incomes would receive the largest percentage cuts under Obama's plan. (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/18/palin.appeal/)
Obama's tax plan would increase taxes in 2009 on the wealthiest 20 percent of households, while offering tax cuts for the other 80 percent. The largest increases would be on the top 1 percent of earners.
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The second reason is Republicans are routinely more eager to go to war than Democrats are. There may be times when going to war is the right thing to do, but Iraq was not one of them.
The third reason is something of a combination of the first two: Republicans encourage a structure of government and economy that induces a national addiction to war. If there is no war, then Dick Cheney does not get rich.
The fourth reason is that the Democrats are more supportive of human rights than Republicans.
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OK so for many Republican supporters, none of those issues have any weight compared to their opposition to abortion. That segment of voters is so large, that without them, pretty nearly no Republicans would be getting elected anywhere.
Palin says she is opposed to all abortions under all circumstances, including rape, except when the mother's life is at risk. She says that each state should be able to decide its own abortion laws.
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So she doesn't like abortion, and I don't like war. OK how about this:
Let each state establish its own laws concerning abortion, and concerning whether their residents can be sent to fight in any given military conflict, and whether (and how much of) their taxes can be spent on war.
Seems like a win-win! :D
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I'm also opposed to capital punishment for all reasons and under all circumstances.
Last Tuesday Georgia executed a man for a murder that someone else confessed to years ago.
It's not just that we could make a mistake. Even though we know beyond any shadow of doubt that this man was innocent, we went ahead and killed him just to smell him fry.
That is evil beyond all comprehension. Capital punishment is performed for blood lust, just like throwing Christians to the lions.
But I'll put elimination of capital punishment farther down my wish list. :)
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So in Palin-wdjworld, if a woman wants an abortion, she may have to go to another state to get it. If a young man doesn't want to be shipped to another country to kill people, he may have to move to another state. And if I don't want my taxes being used to enrich Dick Cheney, Halliburton, and Blackwater, with the side effect of killing a lot of innocent people, maybe there will be a state where I can go too! :)
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:laugh: The answer to yesterday's puzzle:
(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/donttazeme128419682591177500.jpg)
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:laugh: The answer to yesterday's puzzle:
(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/donttazeme128419682591177500.jpg)
Wayne, what in the wurld were that Sea Lion doin' up yonder on that there po-lice car?
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So she doesn't like abortion, and I don't like war. OK how about this:
Let each state establish its own laws concerning abortion, and concerning whether their residents can be sent to fight in any given military conflict, and whether (and how much of) their taxes can be spent on war.
Seems like a win-win! :D
this actually IS McCain's stand on abortion.
I have never heard anyone talking about the other... :)
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I'm also opposed to capital punishment for all reasons and under all circumstances.
Last Tuesday Georgia executed a man for a murder that someone else confessed to years ago.
It's not just that we could make a mistake. Even though we know beyond any shadow of doubt that this man was innocent, we went ahead and killed him just to smell him fry.
That is evil beyond all comprehension. Capital punishment is performed for blood lust, just like throwing Christians to the lions.
But I'll put elimination of capital punishment farther down my wish list. :)
I hope you don't mean you would put throwing Christiand to lions HIGHER on your list!
:laugh: :laugh:
I am opposed to the death penalty too. Too expensive, too hard to correct your mistakes, and no rich white men ever get it...
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So in Palin-wdjworld, if a woman wants an abortion, she may have to go to another state to get it. If a young man doesn't want to be shipped to another country to kill people, he may have to move to another state. And if I don't want my taxes being used to enrich Dick Cheney, Halliburton, and Blackwater, with the side effect of killing a lot of innocent people, maybe there will be a state where I can go too! :)
well remember, the military is voluntary. So if someone doesnt want to go to war, he doesn't have to sign up (and I am WAY against the draft unless we got people storming the shores in which case I bet we wouldn't need the draft, people would be signing up on their own.)
and yeah, definitely no corporate welfare....and if you run a company into the ground, you can NOT walk away with a kabilliion dollars. >:( >:(
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I dont' think people are really that far apart...the politicians want us to THINK we are so they can get power. >:( >:(
we just disagree about HOW we are gonna get to what we want.
I bet if just average people sat down together, we could fix 90% of our problems...(and when I say average, I mean people that dont' have dogs in the hunt....that aren't set to profit from the results other than the benefit of living in a nicer society)
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{{{{{Widgee}}}}}}
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OH NO!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080918/ap_on_re_eu/eu_big_bang (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080918/ap_on_re_eu/eu_big_bang)
the super collider broke down!!
GENEVA - The world's largest particle collider malfunctioned within hours of its launch to great fanfare, but its operator didn't report the problem for a week.
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I bet if just average people sat down together, we could fix 90% of our problems...(and when I say average, I mean people that dont' have dogs in the hunt....that aren't set to profit from the results other than the benefit of living in a nicer society)
Yeah, I 'spect so too.
Hugs back, Jess! :)
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Interesting that Bin Laden has a fairly good claim to having brought down the Soviet Union.
Next he may be able to claim having brought down the United States too.
(http://deus-ex-machinima.net/pics/ladens_real_mission.jpg)
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Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) outlined a proposal he said would create "a genuine ownership society," by giving taxpayers a stake in the companies the government will be saving with its proposed $700 billion package.
"Simply purchasing bad debt, 'cash for trash' and not receiving anything of value or giving $700 billion and not having a commensurate equity interest in Wall Street firms is unacceptable," Kucinich said in a news release Monday. "No 'cash for trash.'"
The "United States Mutual Trust Fund" to convert assets purchased by the government into shares that would be distributed to every man, woman and child in the country. Every American would receive about $2,300 worth of shares because that is the cost of the bailout package to each individual.
No Cash for Trash says Kucinich (http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Kucinich_No_cash_for_trash_give_0922.html)
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When you put people in charge of the government who are committed to proving that it doesn't work, you can be sure that they will cause it to not work.
Don (http://www.haloscan.com/comments/rawstory/11973/#849615)
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(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/funny-pictures-the-itty-bitty-kitty-committee-go-on-a-field-trip.jpg)
hope you have a GREAT weekend!!
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:D Thanks sweetie, you too! :-* :-*
PS I love the IBKC!!! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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:D Thanks sweetie, you too! :-* :-*
PS I love the IBKC!!! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
we need more like them!
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we need more like them!
;D Well, here's at least one more. :-* :-*
(http://threadbombing.com/data/media/48/serious_election.jpg)
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:o Oh noze, SRS cat are joined huffrz! :( (http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=3257805)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/Tillman92/wafflecat.jpg)
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:laugh: :D Srs Cat for Wallpaper! (http://pshops.wavion.info/seriouscatcampaignwall.jpg)
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:) Equal time
(http://www.defuniactelephone.com/at-first-i-was-like-but-then-i-lold.jpg)
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WIDGEE!!
It is SNOWING!!!!
Yippee!! time to make some snowmen....or snowangels!!
(on MARS!!)
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/30/MNQS1387R3.DTL (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/30/MNQS1387R3.DTL)
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File under Interesting Conspiracy Theories :o
JFK issued Executive Order 11110 on June 4, 1963. This granted the US Treasury to issue its own currency - not at interest to itself. In other words, the US government was then able to issue 'silver certificates' based on all silver in the treasury. There was no interest on this legal tender, and the Fed would no longer profit from this currency.
5 months later while US bank notes were being printed Kennedy was assassinated. Immediately following, the silver certificates that were in circulation were removed and the notes that were being printed were destroyed.
Executive Order 11110 has never been repealed. The Federal Reserve Act is unconstitutional. Right now all US dollars are technically counterfeit!
A few years ago I would have chuckled at writing something like this. Lately it has become evident that this is not a conspiracy theory, it is the truth. (Crap, now I am a 'truther', huh?)
Yes, it sounds crazy, but the reality of the situation is that central banks wanted to control the currency for the USA since the late 1700's. They tried and failed a few times until they finally succeeded in 1913. Now US policy is to systematically wage war with nations, and then supply them with immense loans for infrastructure/rebuilding that they will not be able to pay back. Then the banks have them because the interest to keep the economies alive has to come from somewhere - print more - at interest!
I'd love for someone that knows more able global banking to prove me wrong. To me it seems irrefutable that the Federal Reserve et al own the world and are just pulling the strings for self-preservation.
Revolution is upon us.
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Report now, verify later :laugh:
I don't know why people are barking about the 700 billion. What about the 2.3 TRILLION the Pentagon announced they lost track of on 9/10 2001 and the plane then blew up their billing department the next day! Oh, Pentagon, you crack me up. LOL.
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From "The Real DJIA"
(http://homepage.mac.com/ttsmyf/RealDow.gif) (http://homepage.mac.com/ttsmyf/)
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:laugh: Will you feline-marry me?
Go Connecticutt! 47 states to go! ;D
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:D A lil somethin for Fritzkep!! ;) :-*
(http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp131/Niqulaz/farking-austria3-1.jpg)
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Unbelievable that these guys are AGAIN repeating the "we killed #2" line! :laugh: :laugh:
Do they not realize how ridiculous they sound?!?!? :laugh:
No. 2 leader of al-Qaida in Iraq reported killed (http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081015/NEWS08/81015017)
(http://www.phixture.com/images/fark/number2.jpg)
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Just because ;)
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:D A lil somethin for Fritzkep!! ;) :-*
(http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp131/Niqulaz/farking-austria3-1.jpg)
Thanks, Widge! I guess we know what they do there for recreation.
And it's good to know that they do it nice and slow!
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(http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/omnivore/files/2008/10/six-feet-under-caesar.jpg)
Truman and Richard, the restaurant we visited (Six Feet Under) has moved a block away.
:D Here's the review ... (http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/omnivore/2008/10/17/six-feet-under-occupies-new-space/)
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good to know
;D adds a special touch doesn't it! :laugh:
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(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/funny-pictures-itty-bitty-kitty-committee-customer-service-hotline.jpg)
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ibkccs Awww :-* :-*
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:D heh heh maybe he does still love us after all
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the Itty Bitty Kitty Committee is sleepy!!
(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/funny-pictures-little-kittens-are-exhausted.jpg)
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;) The best place in the world
(http://edibleisland.typepad.com/.a/6a00e5529875388833010535bba68a970c-pi) (http://edibleisland.typepad.com/main/2008/10/umbria.html)
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All right all right we get it already ;) :laugh: :-*
(http://edibleisland.typepad.com/.a/6a00e552987538883300e554e1fa078834-800wi)
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;) The best place in the world
(http://edibleisland.typepad.com/.a/6a00e5529875388833010535bba68a970c-pi) (http://edibleisland.typepad.com/main/2008/10/umbria.html)
The food looks awesome!!
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:D
(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/funny-pictures-basement-cat-wishes-you-a-happy-halloween.jpg)
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:o :D
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/defamer/2008/10/countboofrank.jpg) (http://defamer.com/5072657/javier-philip-and-jake-are-fortified-with-8-essential-vitamins-and-iron)
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Read at your own risk.
The Legend of Toothy Tile (http://www.gossiprocks.com/forum/blind-items/legend-toothy-tile-page56-3635.html)
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Read at your own risk.
The Legend of Toothy Tile (http://www.gossiprocks.com/forum/blind-items/legend-toothy-tile-page56-3635.html)
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I am GONNNNNNAAAA READ IT>>>>>>
hope it isnt' SCARY!!
;) ;)
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WHAT!!
who threw Matthew into this mix!!
get on outta there!
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:o :o BE CAREFUL JESS !!!! :laugh: :laugh: ;)
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:o :o BE CAREFUL JESS !!!! :laugh: :laugh: ;)
;D ;D ;D
Matt is nice....Chris is better...especially in DENIM>.... ;D ;D
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who threw Matthew into this mix!!
;D Lance did! :laugh:
Hey they're your Texas compatriots - give us the scoop Jess!
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;D Lance did! :laugh:
Hey they're your Texas compatriots - give us the scoop Jess!
SCOOP!?
you dont' want the pictures? NSFW!!!
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NSFW!!!
:o :D Laws send them on Jess! ;D
They been skinny dippin in the pond with y'all?!? :D
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:o :D Laws send them on Jess! ;D
They been skinny dippin in the pond with y'all?!? :D
I said I wouldn't tell!!
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:laugh:
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfQzM3JjdoI&feature=related[/youtube]
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:D :D
;D I know, I know!!! ;D ;D ;)
Hope you're having a great day Miz Jess! :-* :-*
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Hey you!
Was great to meet ya this weekend!
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Somewhat interesting:
Parallels between the Jesus story and the ancient Cult of Horus (http://atheistempire.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/the-cult-of-horus/)
The foster father of Horus was Seb or Seph. <> Jesus was fostered by Joseph.
Horus raised someone from the grave [his father Osiris] <> Jesus raised Lazarus [notice the name similarity] from the grave. Lazarus is short for Elasarus - the “us” on the end is romanized. Elasarus was derived from “El-Asar” which was the name given to Osiris.
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re: Osiris / Lazarus - maybe a hint that Lazarus was not the guy's real (or at least original) name?
Jesus was into giving people new names, like Simon -> Peter and (posthumously) Saul -> Paul.
The story falls together nicely if Nicodemus -> Lazarus. :D
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Several claims in that list are refuted (correctly or not) in the comments, but the phonetic connection of Osiris and Lazarus is cool.
Lazarus means "blessed of God."
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:D
For over three thrusand years Osiris, god of the blessed dead, was the Egyptians/ most important god. Every pious Egyptian was concerned with attaining resurrection from the dead. And all together looked to the god Osiris as their great hope. (http://www.voiceofelijah.org/library/Passover_07_91.pdf)
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Lazaraus had two sisters Mary and Martha who mourned after his death.
Osiris had two sisters who mourned after his death.
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Oddly, Osiris's coffin got swallowed up in the trunk of an Erica tree. I've never heard of an erica tree before. ??? :-\
Here are some flowers of an "Erica tree"
Click to see us grow! :D
(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/291/421/320/Erica.jpg) (http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/291/421/1600/Erica.jpg)
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:o :D Gah.
"In the three religions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, whenever the faithful pray, regardless of language, they always end their prayer by saying Amen.
There is no linguistic translation for Amen, because it is a name and not a word. The origin of Amen is Egyptian, for Amen was the name of God.
The name of Amen, in Egyptian, means: the Hidden One lives on." (http://www.egypt-tehuti.org/articles/egypt-bible-similarities.html)
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:o :D
Horus / Heru / hero (http://www.egypt-tehuti.org/articles/egypt-bible-similarities.html)
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Oddly, Osiris's coffin got swallowed up in the trunk of an Erica tree. I've never heard of an erica tree before. ??? :-\
Here are some flowers of an "Erica tree"
Click to see us grow! :D
(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/291/421/320/Erica.jpg) (http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/291/421/1600/Erica.jpg)
they are so pretty!
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yes there are a lot of things that cross over from one religion to another. That is why I dont' think we should be killing anyone over it. We are all basically the same.
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Yep. I was wondering who Osiris might correspond to in Greek and Roman mythology (if he corresponds to Lazarus in the Christian tradition). Not sure I know for certain yet, but it looks like he morphed from Pluto early on to Zeus later.
Apparently there was a deliberate bureaucratic effort on the part of the Hellenic pharaos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serapis) (Greeks who took over Egypt) to identify Osiris (under the new name Serapis) with Zeus. The idea was to bring about "unity."
This passage ascribed to the Emperor Hadrian underscores what you're saying Jess:
There (in Egypt) those who worship Serapis are, in fact, Christians, and those who call themselves bishops of Christ are, in fact, devotees of Serapis. There is no chief of the Jewish synagogue, no Samaritan, no Christian presbyter, who is not an astrologer, a soothsayer, or an anointer. Even the Patriarch himself, when he comes to Egypt, is forced by some to worship Serapis, by others to worship Christ.
Serapis: Zeus: Deus:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6d/Kopf_des_Serapis.jpg/80px-Kopf_des_Serapis.jpg) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Zeus_Otricoli_Pio-Clementino_Inv257.jpg/79px-Zeus_Otricoli_Pio-Clementino_Inv257.jpg) (http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:FGriMBVu2h04KM:http://higherthings.org/imgs/se/katrina/sistineGod.jpg)
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And as we know, Zeus in Greek is a cognate for Deus in Latin, which is translated into English as "God."
So as you note, yes it is literally the same. :D
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So maybe Jesus gave this name Lazarus as a reference to Osiris. Or maybe the gospel writers, or maybe the community at large somehow came to use this name.
Clearly there was a lot of mixing and matching going on in Egypt as attested above by Jess and Emperor Hadrian. :D
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So maybe Jesus gave this name Lazarus as a reference to Osiris. Or maybe the gospel writers, or maybe the community at large somehow came to use this name.
Clearly there was a lot of mixing and matching going on in Egypt as attested above. :D
which makes me wonder.
Seems that all of these religions came from a common source. What was the source?
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Seems that all of these religions came from a common source. What was the source?
Well, the Hebrew scriptures begin with the books of Moses. And he grew up in Pharaoh's house, studying Egyptian theology.
Then Jesus grew up studying the scriptures from Moses on. He did spend some time in Egypt apparently, but he was only 2. :-\
I suspect he was interested in stuff like this and learned about the Osiris and Horus myths and such on his own.
Horus by the way carried the title "krst" which means "the anointed one." "Christ" also means "the anointed one."
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Well, the Hebrew scriptures begin with the books of Moses. And he grew up in Pharaoh's house, studying Egyptian theology.
Then Jesus grew up studying the scriptures from Moses on. He did spend some time in Egypt apparently, but he was only 2. :-\
I suspect he was interested in stuff like this and learned about the Osiris and Horus myths and such on his own.
Horus by the way carried the title "krst" which means "the anointed one." "Christ" also means "the anointed one."
hmmmm..
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RDJ as Kirk Lazarus as Osiris. See? We are all the same. ;D
(http://justentertainment.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/robert.jpg)
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Speaking of Kirk ;D
(http://www.popfi.com/wp-content/uploads/captain-kirk-stalagmite-stalagtite.jpg)
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:o Kirk encounters Lazarus
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/14/STAltFactor.jpg) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Alternative_Factor)
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"The Arabian historians contend that Brahma and Abraham, their ancestor, are the same person. (http://www.hermetics.org/Abraham2.html) The Persians generally called Abraham Ibrahim Zeradust (Zarathustra). Cyrus considered the religion of the Jews the same as his own. The Hindoos must have come from Abraham, or the Israelites from Brahma..." (Anacalypsis; Vol. I, p. 396.)
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Commander of the USS starship Osiris is Captain Joseph Brahm. (http://stexpanded.wikia.com/wiki/USS_Osiris_(NCC-61401))
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RDJ as Kirk Lazarus as Osiris. See? We are all the same. ;D
(http://justentertainment.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/robert.jpg)
ok!
I dont' understand it but
OK!!
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:laugh: Yeah I was all excited about discovering this connection between Lazarus and Osiris, and then realized that RDJ's character's name in Tropic Thunder was Kirk Lazarus.
And the character that his character played in the movie they were making in the movie was named Sergeant Osiris.
So RDJ stole WDJ's thunder! >:( :laugh: Or WDJ stole RDJ's Tropic Thunder!! That make it clearer? :o :laugh: ;D
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:laugh: Yeah I was all excited about discovering this connection between Lazarus and Osiris, and then realized that RDJ's character's name in Tropic Thunder was Kirk Lazarus.
And the character that his character played in the movie they were making in the movie was named Sergeant Osiris. So RDJ stole my Tropic Thunder!! That make it clearer? :o :laugh: ;D
I think someone needs to study YOUR brain!
This is why you make a good scientist, Widgee...you can see connections and remember stuff so much better than most. I said it before but...you are the smartest man I know...
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Aww ! :blush: Actually the Internets help a lot ... ;)
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And - heh heh - speaking of Lot ... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lot_(Bible)) ;)
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Speaking of Lot (Abraham's cousin who was warned to escape Sodom before it was blown up)...
I thought, well if Abraham is the same guy as Brahma, and there are stories about Brahma in India that give a little more (or different) info than what is in Genesis ...
Then maybe there will be stories in India about the destruction of Sodom that would give more insight as well.
I mean, fricking Prince just condemned gays last week, poking at his Bible and saying people put their dicks in the wrong holes and God blew them up. (I have loved Prince for decades; now I despise him >:( :P )
So anyway maybe there are Sodom and Gomorrah stories from somewhere else to shed some additional light.
I did find this website, which currently makes my head spin: Abraham of India (http://personalpages.tds.net/~theseeker/Abraham.htm)
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Aww ! :blush: Actually the Internets help a lot ... ;)
heck I cant' even think what to ask Google FOR!
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And - heh heh - speaking of Lot ... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lot_(Bible)) ;)
SEE!!??
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I will just quote a bunch from Indian Abraham (http://personalpages.tds.net/~theseeker/Abraham.htm)
The hints in the Old Testament become a detailed tale in the Khedorlaomer Texts, which make clear that the war was intended to prevent the return of Marduk and thwart the efforts of Nabu to gain access to Sinai.
These texts not only name the very same kings who are mentioned in the Bible but even repeat the biblical detail of the switch of allegiance “in the thirteenth year”!
As we return to the Kedorlaomer Texts to obtain the details for the biblical frame, we should bear in mind that they were written by a Babylonian historian who favored Marduk’s desire to make Babylon “the heavenward navel in the four regions.” It was to thwart this that the gods opposing Marduk ordered Khedorlaomer to seize and defile Babylon.
The despoiling of Babylon was only the beginning. After the “bad deeds” were done there, Utu/Shamash (son of Nannar-Sin and twin of Inanna/Ishtar) sought action against Nabu (son of Marduk).... the gods assembled.... Ishtar decreed an oracle, and the army put together by the kings of the East arrived in Transjordan....
When the invaders....” thereafter, Dur-Mah-Ilani was to be captured and the Canaanite cities (including Gaza and Beer-Sheba in the Negev) were to be punished. But at Dur-Mah-Ilani, according to the Babylonian text, “the son of the priest, whom the gods in their true counsel had anointed,” stood in the invader’s way and “the despoiling prevented.”
Though not specifically mentioned by name, the Babylonian text did indeed refer to Abraham, the son of Terah the priest, and spelled out his role in turning back the invaders.
This is strengthened by the fact that the Mesopotamian and biblical texts relate the same event in the same locality with the same outcome.
Further strengthening this position is the date formulas for the reign of Amar-Sin called his seventh year. The crucial year being 2041 BC, the year of the military expedition - also MU NE IB.RU.UM BA.HUL meaning – “Year the Shepherding-abode of IB.RU.UM was attacked.”
Can this reference, in the exact crucial year, be other than to Abraham and his shepherding abode?
Having carried out his mission, Abraham returned to his base near Hebron. Encouraged by his feat, the Canaanite kings marched his forces to intercept the retreating army from the East. But the invaders beat them and seized all the possessions of Sodom and Gomorrah as well as one prize hostage: They took with them Lot, the nephew of Abraham, who was residing at Sodom.
On hearing the news, Abraham called up his best cavalrymen and pursued the retreating invaders. Catching up with them near Damascus, he succeeded in releasing Lot and retrieving all the booty. Upon his return he was greeted as a victor in the Valley of Shalem (Jerusalem):
”And Malkizedek, the king of Shalem, brought forth bread and wine,
for he was priest unto the God Most High”.
And he blessed him, saying:
“Blessed be Abram unto the God Most High, Possessor of Heaven and Earth;
And blessed be the God Most High who hath delivered thy foes unto thine hand.”
Soon the Canaanite kings also arrived to thank Abraham, and offered him all the seized possessions as a reward. But Abraham, saying that his local allies could share in that, refused to take “even a shoelace” for himself or his warriors.
The invasion of the Sinai was thwarted, but the danger to it was not removed; and the efforts of Marduk to gain the supremacy intensified ever more. Fifteen years later Sodom and Gomorrah went up in flames when Ninurta and Nergal unleashed the weapons of awesome brilliance.
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Speaking of Lot (Abraham's cousin who was warned to escape Sodom before it was blown up)...
I thought, well if Abraham is the same guy as Brahma, and there are stories about Brahma in India that give a little more (or different) info than what is in Genesis ...
Then maybe there will be stories in India about the destruction of Sodom that would give more insight as well.
I mean, fricking Prince just condemned gays last week, poking at his Bible and saying people put their dicks in the wrong holes and God blew them up. (I have loved Prince for decades; now I despise him >:( :P )
So anyway maybe there are Sodom and Gomorrah stories from somewhere else to shed some additional light.
I did find this website, which currently makes my head spin: Abraham of India (http://personalpages.tds.net/~theseeker/Abraham.htm)
ok here is my theory on Sodom and Gomorrah....(promise not to laugh!)
PROMISE!! >:(
ok
here it is:
I think that they misunderstood the story...remember back in the old days? one of the very very worst things you could do was violate the custom of "guest friendship"!! If you let someone stay under your roof then you took on his protection, and you offered no harm to him....
now the people of Sodom violated that rule by wanting to harm the two angels...so that is why they were destroyed.
hey! stop laughing! You promised! It makes as much sense as the other!
or maybe it was just the aliens that did it.
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I will just quote a bunch from Indian Abraham (http://personalpages.tds.net/~theseeker/Abraham.htm)
The hints in the Old Testament become a detailed tale in the Khedorlaomer Texts, which make clear that the war was intended to prevent the return of Marduk and thwart the efforts of Nabu to gain access to Sinai.
These texts not only name the very same kings who are mentioned in the Bible but even repeat the biblical detail of the switch of allegiance “in the thirteenth year”!
As we return to the Kedorlaomer Texts to obtain the details for the biblical frame, we should bear in mind that they were written by a Babylonian historian who favored Marduk’s desire to make Babylon “the heavenward navel in the four regions.” It was to thwart this that the gods opposing Marduk ordered Khedorlaomer to seize and defile Babylon.
The despoiling of Babylon was only the beginning. After the “bad deeds” were done there, Utu/Shamash (son of Nannar-Sin and twin of Inanna/Ishtar) sought action against Nabu (son of Marduk).... the gods assembled.... Ishtar decreed an oracle, and the army put together by the kings of the East arrived in Transjordan....
When the invaders....” thereafter, Dur-Mah-Ilani was to be captured and the Canaanite cities (including Gaza and Beer-Sheba in the Negev) were to be punished. But at Dur-Mah-Ilani, according to the Babylonian text, “the son of the priest, whom the gods in their true counsel had anointed,” stood in the invader’s way and “the despoiling prevented.”
Though not specifically mentioned by name, the Babylonian text did indeed refer to Abraham, the son of Terah the priest, and spelled out his role in turning back the invaders.
This is strengthened by the fact that the Mesopotamian and biblical texts relate the same event in the same locality with the same outcome.
Further strengthening this position is the date formulas for the reign of Amar-Sin called his seventh year. The crucial year being 2041 BC, the year of the military expedition - also MU NE IB.RU.UM BA.HUL meaning – “Year the Shepherding-abode of IB.RU.UM was attacked.”
Can this reference, in the exact crucial year, be other than to Abraham and his shepherding abode?
Having carried out his mission, Abraham returned to his base near Hebron. Encouraged by his feat, the Canaanite kings marched his forces to intercept the retreating army from the East. But the invaders beat them and seized all the possessions of Sodom and Gomorrah as well as one prize hostage: They took with them Lot, the nephew of Abraham, who was residing at Sodom.
On hearing the news, Abraham called up his best cavalrymen and pursued the retreating invaders. Catching up with them near Damascus, he succeeded in releasing Lot and retrieving all the booty. Upon his return he was greeted as a victor in the Valley of Shalem (Jerusalem):
”And Malkizedek, the king of Shalem, brought forth bread and wine,
for he was priest unto the God Most High”.
And he blessed him, saying:
“Blessed be Abram unto the God Most High, Possessor of Heaven and Earth;
And blessed be the God Most High who hath delivered thy foes unto thine hand.”
Soon the Canaanite kings also arrived to thank Abraham, and offered him all the seized possessions as a reward. But Abraham, saying that his local allies could share in that, refused to take “even a shoelace” for himself or his warriors.
The invasion of the Sinai was thwarted, but the danger to it was not removed; and the efforts of Marduk to gain the supremacy intensified ever more. Fifteen years later Sodom and Gomorrah went up in flames when Ninurta and Nergal unleashed the weapons of awesome brilliance.
well this was my THIRD guess... :P ;D ;D
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well this was my THIRD guess... :P ;D ;D
:laugh: I know, mine too!! :laugh: ??? :laugh:
I'm all like .. whoa. Here's a different version of the story where Abraham is apparently a major international ambassador running between India, Persia, and Egypt.
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A quick look at the map shows that Canaan is a major choke point between Egypt and Mesopotamia. So everybody was fighting over it. Abraham managed to calm things down for a while, but eventually they blew it up.
So who are these guys? Actually they are the names of Babylonian gods, and the Babylonian names of the planets.
Marduk is the planet Jupiter, Nergal is Mars, and Ninurta is Saturn. Ishtar is Venus.
By the way if you've ever heard of Mount Nebo in church music, Nebo is the planet Mercury.
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A quick look at the map shows that Canaan is a major choke point between Egypt and Mesopotamia. So everybody was fighting over it. Abraham managed to calm things down for a while, but eventually they blew it up.
So who are these guys? Actually they are the names of Babylonian gods, and the Babylonian names of the planets.
Marduk is the planet Jupiter, Nergal is Mars, and Ninurta is Saturn. Ishtar is Venus.
By the way if you've ever heard of Mount Nebo in church music, Nebo is the planet Mercury.
ok how did they know about the planets? or were the planets named later?
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The ancients were way big into astronomy (and astrology). They constantly tracked Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn, looking for some sort of message, even if no message was there.
Kind of like me reading Google. :)
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They considered the sun and the moon to be "planets" along with Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn. That's the source of the "sacredness" of the number seven, and the reason the week has 7 days.
In Babylonian they were the equivalent of Sunday, Moonday, Marsday, Mercuryday, Jupiterday, Venusday, and Saturnday.
Also note the names that don't correspond well in English (Tuesday to Friday) still do correspond in French: mardi, mercredi, jeudi ("jove" is the short form of "jupiter"), vendredi.
They're different in English just because we substituted Norse gods' names: Tiw, Woden, Thor, and Frigg.
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So anyway getting back to Sodom ;)
This site provides a quote (http://neros.lordbalto.com/ChapterFive.htm) from the Jewish historian Josephus (AD37-100) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus)
At this time, when the Assyrians had the dominion over Asia, the people of Sodom were in a flourishing condition, both as to riches and the number of their youth. There were five kings that managed the affairs of this county: Ballas, Barsas, Senabar, and Sumobor, with the king of Bela; and each king led on his own troops: and the Assyrians made war upon them; and, dividing their army into four parts, fought against them. Now every part of the army had its own commander; and when the battle was joined, the Assyrians were conquerors, and imposed a tribute on the kings of the Sodomites, who submitted to this slavery twelve years; and so long they continued to pay their tribute: but on the thirteenth year they rebelled, and then the army of the Assyrians came upon them, under their commanders Amraphel, Arioch, Chodorlaomer, and Tidal. These kings had laid waste all Syria, and overthrown the offspring of the giants. And when they were come over against Sodom, they pitched their camp at the vale called the Slime Pits, for at that time there were pits in that place; but now, upon the destruction of the city of Sodom, that vale became the Lake Asphaltites, as it is called. However, concerning this lake we shall speak more presently. Now when the Sodomites joined battle with the Assyrians, and the fight was very obstinate, many of them were killed, and the rest were carried captive; among which captives was Lot, who had come to assist the Sodomites.
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I think that they misunderstood the story...remember back in the old days? one of the very very worst things you could do was violate the custom of "guest friendship"!! If you let someone stay under your roof then you took on his protection, and you offered no harm to him....
now the people of Sodom violated that rule by wanting to harm the two angels...so that is why they were destroyed.
Jess, you are not far off.
I had a book a while ago (i've since misplaced it) and in it, it explained the story of Sodom.
In the time of the story, it was customary to offer housing and food to travelers, even if they were enemies, because with the harsh climate, to be outside in the elements meant death.
When the angels appeared in Sodom, the only one to offer them safety was Lot. The other citizens of Sodom refused to help anyone but themselves.
When Jesus talks about Sodom (Ezekiel 16:49), He states "This was the sin of your sister Sodom: pride, a full measure of food, and the comforts of wealth in peace, were seen in her and her daughters, and she gave no help to the poor or to those in need."
Jesus never said anything about homosexuality when talking about Sodom.
Homosexuality comes into play because when the villagers try to get the angels, they say they want to "know" them. In the bible, the expression "to know" someone occasionally means in a sexual way.
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Yeah I had always thought it was repulsive that Lot offered them his daughters "to do whatever they wanted to them."
But the historical version of the story, outside the Bible, makes it clear that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed in war. It even gives the names of the generals.
The word translated as "angels" is blatantly misrepresented. The word actually just means "messengers." Just some guys who were sent to warn Lot to leave.
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And here's the part that I love. Love love love love love. :-* :-* :-*
When they were come over against Sodom, they pitched their camp at the vale called the Slime Pits, for at that time there were pits in that place; but now, upon the destruction of the city of Sodom, that vale became the Lake Asphaltites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea)
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I mean, come on, what a goofy name! Who names a lake Lake Asphaltites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea)?!? Sounds like asphalt. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Well, as it turns out, that was the Greek name for the Dead Sea. Before the war, there had been "slime pits" where bitumen was mined at great profit. It was used for mummification in Egypt and for paving roads in Babylon.
But the Sodomites got very wealthy from it and the rest of the world resented it. Middle East wars over oil anyone?
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AND.
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I mean, come on, what a goofy name! Who names a lake Lake Asphaltites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea)?!? Sounds like asphalt. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Well, as it turns out, that was the Greek name for the Dead Sea. Before the war, there had been "slime pits" where bitumen was mined at a great price It was used for mummification in Egypt and for paving roads in Babylon.
But the Sodomites got very wealthy from it and the rest of the world resented it. Middle East wars over oil anyone?
;)
I gotta go..but I will check back later....looking forward to it!
:-* :-*
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AND. Upon being attacked with a few minor explosives, or maybe a torch,
Sodom and Gomorrah, being built on top of bitumen pits (http://www.answers.com/topic/bitumen) with their
highly flammable vapors... :o :o :o
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:o ASPLODED !!! :o :o
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Syncrude Canada warns:
NEVER USE WATER on a bitumen tank fire; it may cause violent eruption and spreading of burning bitumen. Hot material may ignite flammable mixtures (liquids) on contact. (http://64.233.169.132/search?q=cache:z96wmKDOU3sJ:www.syncrude.ca/users/getdownload.asp%3FDownloadID%3D319+bitumen+flammable&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us)
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:-\ :-\ :-\ But unfortunately, as Josephus noted, Sodom and Gomorrah were located on the edge of the Dead Sea, so when the water rushed in ...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/John_Martin_-_Sodom_and_Gomorrah.jpg/300px-John_Martin_-_Sodom_and_Gomorrah.jpg)
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:o KABOOM !!! :o :o
Fire and brimstone rained from the sky. The same bitumen that had brought Sodom its wealth now brought its destruction.
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According to Genesis, Lot and family had been warned to leave and not look back, but his wife took a quick peek and was burned to a pillar of salt. :-\ Here is an artist's interpretation of the event (not an actual photograph):
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Nuremberg_chronicles_f_21r_.png/300px-Nuremberg_chronicles_f_21r_.png) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Nuremberg_chronicles_f_21r_.png/800px-Nuremberg_chronicles_f_21r_.png)
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The Bible goes on to say (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2019;&version=49;) that Lot, the one and only righteous man from Sodom, the one man that God chose to save while blasting all those Sodomites to smithereens, had sex with his daughters and got them both pregnant.
The end. :)
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Just want to send a big special FUCK YOU to Prince (http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2008/11/24/081124ta_talk_hoffman) and hope you think about how the man you think is better than those sodomites had sex with his own daughters and got them pregnant. :)
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AND. Upon being attacked with a few minor explosives, or maybe a torch,
Sodom and Gomorrah, being built on top of bitumen pits (http://www.answers.com/topic/bitumen) with their
highly flammable vapors... :o :o :o
YIKES!!!!
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Syncrude Canada warns:
NEVER USE WATER on a bitumen tank fire; it may cause violent eruption and spreading of burning bitumen. Hot material may ignite flammable mixtures (liquids) on contact. (http://64.233.169.132/search?q=cache:z96wmKDOU3sJ:www.syncrude.ca/users/getdownload.asp%3FDownloadID%3D319+bitumen+flammable&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us)
ok I PROMISE!!
the next time my bitumen catches on fire I WON'T use water to put it out!
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The Bible goes on to say (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2019;&version=49;) that Lot, the one and only righteous man from Sodom, the one man that God chose to save while blasting all those Sodomites to smithereens, had sex with his daughters and got them both pregnant.
The end. :)
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
but ya notice that whenever they talk about the Sodom thing they always stop quoting the Bible before they get to that part!?
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When asked about his perspective on social issues—gay marriage, abortion—Prince tapped his Bible and said, “God came to earth and saw people sticking it wherever and doing it with whatever, and he just cleared it all out. He was, like, ‘Enough.’ ”
_Prince, quoted in the New Yorker, dated Nov 24, 2008 (yes I know that date hasn't happened yet), by Claire Hoffman.
Prince is now claiming he was misquoted.Perez Hilton SAYS SOMEBODY TOLD HIM PRINCE WAS MISQUOTED! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I think he's lying.
If he was misquoted, then let him come right on out and announce his support for gay marriage.
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When asked about his perspective on social issues—gay marriage, abortion—Prince tapped his Bible and said, “God came to earth and saw people sticking it wherever and doing it with whatever, and he just cleared it all out. He was, like, ‘Enough.’ ”
_Prince, quoted in the New Yorker, dated Nov 24, 2008 (yes I know that date hasn't happened yet), by Claire Hoffman.
Prince is now claiming he was misquoted. I think he's lying.
If he was misquoted, then let him come right on out and announce his support for gay marriage.
humph....'misquoted'...then demand a retraction!
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you know it would have to be an awfully sadistic God for him to make our bodies to feel such pleasure and yes fit together so well (hello) and then say "Ya'll dont' be having no sex now, ya hear?"
>:( >:( >:(
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Perez.
Fricking.
Hilton.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Perez.
Fricking.
Hilton.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
and we are OOFFFF in a new direction....
*Jess rubbing her neck*
I think I got the whiplash!!
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you know it would have to be an awfully sadistic God for him to make our bodies to feel such pleasure and yes fit together so well (hello) and then say "Ya'll dont' be having no sex now, ya hear?"
>:( >:( >:(
;D Indeed Jess! :)
I'm all for reducing STDs and all that but sheesh. ::) :laugh: ;)
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;D Indeed Jess! :)
I'm all for reducing STDs and all that but sheesh. ::) :laugh: ;)
seems there could be a MIDDLE ground between NONE and some...without all the guilt and stuff...
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:laugh: :laugh: (http://www.yelp.com/biz/cliff-bostock-atlanta#hrid:P2ZejUKTtItjEIWrN154Mw)
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:laugh: :laugh: (http://www.yelp.com/biz/cliff-bostock-atlanta#hrid:P2ZejUKTtItjEIWrN154Mw)
SEE?? I am learning!! You always be HIDING them links!
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081122/ap_on_re_eu/eu_bulgaria_ancient_chariot (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081122/ap_on_re_eu/eu_bulgaria_ancient_chariot)
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
cool! check out the slideshow!!
those horses are so TINY!! like ponies!
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WOW!!!
Check it out!!!
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_2aX-784sw[/youtube]
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oh no...I just thought of something....isnt' this how War of the Worlds started??!!!
:o :o :o
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http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=50924&catid=2 (http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=50924&catid=2)
:o :o
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(http://www.coasttocoastam.com/timages/page/acidlake112308x.JPG)
This lake in the top of the crater at Mt. Irazu has a PH of 2. In other words, it's Sulfuric Acid.
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:D Beautiful photo Jess! :o Don't get so close to the edge!!! :o
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;D
(http://thepatriotaxe.com/jesus.jpg)
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;D
(http://thepatriotaxe.com/jesus.jpg)
and you KNOW he would TOO!
>:( >:(
;)
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(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii185/frmrfbi/Thanksgiving/happy-thanksgiving1.jpg)
Happy Thanksgiving Wayne!
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Greenland morning.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/12/01/article-1090829-02A707BD000005DC-844_634x477.jpg) (http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1090829/The-picture-perfect-storm-Photographs-capture-terrifying-beauty-clouds-gathering-Greenland.html)
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Given the location of this photo at USGS (http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs027-00/images/) I think it's real. After Mt St Helens. [Brad and Steve, yo! ;D]
(http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs027-00/images/sky.jpg)
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Other.
(http://www.monkeytime.org/Site%20Images/mammatus.jpg)
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;D Tonight in Australia ;D ;) get it? ;D ;) :laugh: ;D
(http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/photoessay_5826_images/1201080951_M_oz_smiley_blue_cent.jpg) (http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,5826,00.html#7_0)
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(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/fritzkep/DSC01776.jpg)
A view from Virginia.
A smile south of the equator, a frown north.
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;D Tonight in Australia ;D ;) get it? ;D ;) :laugh: ;D
(http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/photoessay_5826_images/1201080951_M_oz_smiley_blue_cent.jpg) (http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,5826,00.html#7_0)
LOL!!
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Wayne, I've got a few more views of the conjunction, if you'd like to see them.
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;D Love to see them Fritz! And hey Miz Jess! A pic from Jocelyn's side of the world ... tell her G'day for me! ;D
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;D Love to see them Fritz! And hey Miz Jess! A pic from Jocelyn's side of the world ... tell her G'day for me! ;D
I will!!
one day you should come say hi yourself!
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(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/fritzkep/DSC01772.jpg)
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(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/fritzkep/DSC01773.jpg)
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(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/fritzkep/DSC01775.jpg)
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(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/fritzkep/DSC01777.jpg)
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(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/fritzkep/DSC01781.jpg)
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(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/fritzkep/DSC01780.jpg)
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nice pics Fritz!!
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Thanks, Jess!
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:D Thanks for the neat pix Fritz!
I saw it from my upstairs skylight that evening. Had to climb a ladder :laugh:
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(http://bsalert.com/f-store/bondage_jesus.jpg)
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(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/lajimi/Misc/FSF2007_poster_web_582px.jpg)
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Wayne you so BAD!! You gonna catch cooties!!
:laugh: :laugh: ::)
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:laugh: I know, seems like it happens every time lately! Worth it this time I think. 8)
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:laugh: I know, seems like it happens every time lately! Worth it this time I think. 8)
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
it really isn't fair for you to go over there and fight with them....in a battle of wits they are only half armed!!
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;D
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Wayne = agitator
homosexual man = provocateur
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:laugh: ;)
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(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/funny-pictures-a-secret-kitten-base-is-discovered.jpg)
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(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3142/3094652152_da8dbf8236_o.jpg) (http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/sahara_12_08/07_08B.jpg)
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Just a bookmark for meself, or anybody who might be interested. I think I bookmarked this before.
Homosexuality and Scripture (http://www.geocities.com/Pharsea/scripture.html)
(http://www.geocities.com/Pharsea/theophany.jpg)
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:-\ Read at your own risk.
Our prior request to have Mr. Connell protected went unheeded and now he is dead. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20081220/pl_usnw/bush_insider_who_planned_to_tell_all_killed_in_plane_crash__non_profit_demands_full_federal_investigation)
Michael Connell, the Bush IT expert who has been directly implicated in the rigging of George Bush's 2000 and 2004 elections, was killed last night when his single engine plane crashed three miles short of the Akron airport. Velvet Revolution ("VR"), a non-profit that has been investigating Mr. Connell's activities for the past two years, can now reveal that a person close to Mr. Connell has recently been discussing with a VR investigator how he can tell all about his work for George Bush. Mr. Connell told a close associate that he was afraid that George Bush and Dick Cheney would "throw [him] under the bus."
A tipster close to the McCain campaign disclosed to VR in July that Mr. Connell's life was in jeopardy and that Karl Rove had threatened him and his wife, Heather. VR's attorney, Cliff Arnebeck, notified the United States Attorney General , Ohio law enforcement and the federal court about these threats and insisted that Mr. Connell be placed in protective custody. VR also told a close associate of Mr. Connell's not to fly his plane because of another tip that the plane could be sabotaged. Mr. Connell, a very experienced pilot, has had to abandon at least two flights in the past two months because of suspicious problems with his plane. On December 18, 2008, Mr. Connell flew to a small airport outside of Washington DC to meet some people. It was on his return flight the next day that he crashed.
On October 31, Mr. Connell appeared before a federal judge in Ohio after being subpoenaed in a federal lawsuit investigating the rigging of the 2004 election under the direction of Karl Rove. The judge ordered Mr. Connell to testify under oath at a deposition on November 3rd, the day before the presidential election. Velvet Revolution received confidential information that the White House was extremely concerned about Mr. Connell talking about his illegal work for the White House and two Bush/Cheney 04 attorneys were dispatched to represent him.
An associate of Mr. Connell's told VR that Mr. Connell was involved with the destruction of the White House emails and the setting up of the off-grid White House email system.
Mr. Connell handled all of John McCain's computer work in the recent presidential campaign. VR has received direct evidence that the McCain campaign kept abreast of the legal developments against Mr. Connell by reading the VR dedicated website, www.rovecybergate.com.
VR demands that the Ohio Attorney General and the United States Justice Department conduct a complete investigation into the activities of Mr. Connell and determine whether there was any foul play in his death. VR demands that federal law enforcement officials place the following people under protective custody pending this investigation. Heather Connell who
is the owner of GovTech Solutions, Randy Cole, the former President of GovTech Solutions, and Jeff Averbeck, the CEO of SmartTech in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Both GovTech and SmartTech have been implicated in the rigging of the 2000 and 2004 elections and the White House email scandal. Our prior request to have Mr. Connell protected went unheeded and now he is dead.
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8) 8)
hmm...
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;) Injest In Black gonna check it out for us. 8) 8)
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Sometimes, not often, the music alone makes it all worthwhile.
1979 (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/s/smashing+pumpkins/1979_20126571.html) :bliss: 8)
No apologies ever need be made,
I know you better than you fake
it To see that we dont care to shake
these zipper blues
And we dont know just where our bones will rest
To dust I guess
Forgotten and absorbed into the earth below
The street heats the urgency of sound
As you can see theres no one around
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Oh yeahhhhhhhhhh ......... (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:jbfwxqqjldfe) 8)
Moods: Sprawling Wry Somber Precious Plaintive Melancholy Gloomy
Rousing Stylish Snide Reflective Nocturnal Literate Detached Complex
Brash Theatrical Cathartic Angst-Ridden Aggressive
Themes: Loss/Grief Introspection
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Oh yeahhhhhhhhhh ......... (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:jbfwxqqjldfe) 8)
Moods: Sprawling Wry Somber Precious Plaintive Melancholy Gloomy
Rousing Stylish Snide Reflective Nocturnal Literate Detached Complex
Brash Theatrical Cathartic Angst-Ridden Aggressive
Themes: Loss/Grief Introspection
LOL
you are on a roll tonight..
wonder why they wouldn't post my comment? I am not even sure I submitted it right... :P
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Snide Reflective Nocturnal Literate Detached Complex Brash Theatrical - they might as well be reading my horoscope! :laugh: ;)
re: your post - you have to register as a user. The site is sometimes slow and always clunky, so it probably just didn't get to them. You can always post again!
I'm abstaining today though. :) the pace has slowed so it's not as tempting to be snide literate detached complex brash and theatrical right now. ;D
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Snide Reflective Nocturnal Literate Detached Complex Brash Theatrical - they might as well be reading my horoscope! :laugh: ;)
re: your post - you have to register as a user. The site is sometimes slow and always clunky, so it probably just didn't get to them. You can always post again!
I'm abstaining today though. :) the pace has slowed so it's not as tempting to be snide literate detached complex brash and theatrical right now. ;D
I will!
;)
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Happy Holidays Wayne!
Just wanted to take a moment
to wish you a very happy and
healthy holiday season!!!!
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Merry Christmas, Wayne!
And
Best Wishes
for
Peace, Hope, Love, and Progress
in the
New Year!
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Merry (belated) Christmas from the wilds of upstate South Carolina, Widge!
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Injest, I love your kettens pics!
More please!
Au revoir,
hugs!
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Hiya Wayne!
Hope you're doing well!
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>:( :P
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k203/ronnykmarshall/troyobama.jpg
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>:( :P
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k203/ronnykmarshall/troyobama.jpg
hmmm...kinda like Bush inviting Duke to give a speech in honor of Rev Jackson isn't it? (from a certain point of view)
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oh no...Wayne tell me that is not a real post...
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To Wayne,
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May 2009 bring you:
much happiness
abundance of health
love and respect
good fortunes
renewed spirit
boundless energy
strength when needed
Hoping that 2009 is a great year for you!
Love,
Chuck
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From Fark, a savvy shopper:
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:o NSFW, but possibly worth it
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3086/3174687508_25f55d2dbc.jpg?v=0) (http://web1.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0106091vail1.html)
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*Snicker*
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1. ??? How did he manage to slide out of his pants on the way down ?!? ???
2. Now that's a lotta Rottweiler! :o :laugh:
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3. I get the impression we're in the middle of a major increase in violent crime. I'm heartbroken that an acquaintance of mine was shot and killed a couple of nights ago. He was closing up at the restaurant where he works. We held a vigil for him yesterday morning. There were over 200 people there at seven in the morning ... :'( :'( :'( (http://www.ajc.com/services/content/printedition/2009/01/09/protest.html)
Johnny, sweetie, I'm so sorry ... we love you.
(http://rusty.pine-magazine.com/photos/1655/daily_pine_thumb/image_8155608.jpg?1231460476) (http://rusty.pine-magazine.com/site/article/1655)
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Meanwhile on the lighter side...
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3. I get the impression we're in the middle of a major increase in violent crime. I'm heartbroken that an acquaintance of mine was shot and killed a couple of nights ago. He was closing up at the restaurant where he works. We held a vigil for him yesterday morning. There were over 200 people there at seven in the morning ... :'( :'( :'( (http://www.ajc.com/services/content/printedition/2009/01/09/protest.html)
Johnny, sweetie, I'm so sorry ... we love you.
(http://rusty.pine-magazine.com/photos/1655/daily_pine_thumb/image_8155608.jpg?1231460476) (http://rusty.pine-magazine.com/site/article/1655)
oh Wayne, I am so sorry. :'(
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:-\ Thanks Jess. Yeah... very sad.
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Ah well. On the lighter side, it's actually a series of tubes.
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Aww ... :-* :-* :-*
But also kinda weird lookin! :-\ :laugh: ;)
(http://www.artsjournal.com/man/images/Arbus%20Baby.jpg)
"To dispel the growing myth that she only took pictures of freaks, Diane Arbus made up a list of elegant people she wanted to photograph... (http://www.artsjournal.com/man/archives20050301.shtml#97980)
As if to prove her point, she took a remarkable portrait of Gloria Vanderbilt's sleeping baby son, (name that baby! ;D ), for a Harper's Bazaar Valentine issue. In this truly astonishing picture, the infant resembles a flat white death's head -- eyes sealed shut, mouth pursed and moist with saliva. When Gloria Vanderbilt saw the photograph, she forbade Bazaar to publish it, but eventually she changed her mind and this stunning image opened Diane's retrospective at the Museum of Modern Art in 1972."
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3. I get the impression we're in the middle of a major increase in violent crime. I'm heartbroken that an acquaintance of mine was shot and killed a couple of nights ago. He was closing up at the restaurant where he works. We held a vigil for him yesterday morning. There were over 200 people there at seven in the morning ... :'( :'( :'( (http://www.ajc.com/services/content/printedition/2009/01/09/protest.html)
Johnny, sweetie, I'm so sorry ... we love you.
(http://rusty.pine-magazine.com/photos/1655/daily_pine_thumb/image_8155608.jpg?1231460476) (http://rusty.pine-magazine.com/site/article/1655)
Aww... what a tragedy.
I am so sorry.
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Thanks Karen ... yeah, such a sad thing.
Lots of people loved him, and he knew it, so at least there's that. :'( :-\ :)
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From back in May 2007, Out Magazine's list of 50 most powerful gay men and women in America. (http://www.out.com/detail.asp?id=22394)
David
Anderson
Ellen
etc :D
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Thanks Karen ... yeah, such a sad thing.
Lots of people loved him, and he knew it, so at least there's that. :'( :-\ :)
It's so hard to lose someone that is loved, but to lose them in that manner.
So needless.
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From back in May 2007, Out Magazine's list of 50 most powerful gay men and women in America. (http://www.out.com/detail.asp?id=22394)
David
Anderson
Ellen
etc :D
Wayne
Dana
Milo
Brad
Garry
and on and on
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oooh, ooh and don't forget: D ! :)
:laugh: ;) :-*
Hope you're having a great evenin Miz Jess! :)
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And tell Blondie we said hey. ;)
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lol
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??? :-\ "Facile" is a confusing word.
facile adj.
1. Done or achieved with little effort or difficulty; easy. See Synonyms at easy.
2. Working, acting, or speaking with effortless ease and fluency.
3. Arrived at without due care, effort, or examination; superficial: proposed a facile solution to a complex problem.
4. Readily manifested, together with an aura of insincerity and lack of depth: a facile slogan devised by politicians.
5. Archaic Pleasingly mild, as in disposition or manner. (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/facile)
Facile in French just means "easy." In English, I usually think of it with the negative connotations of defs 3 and 4. But 2 is positive, and 1 is positive to neutral.
If a person is "facile," does s/he work, act, or speak with effortless ease and fluency? Or is s/he lazy, shallow, and insincere?
I tend to think of the latter. but the former is almost the opposite ... ???
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And tell Blondie we said hey. ;)
I will! you should come harass Blondie sometimes, he gets the best of me too much!!
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??? :-\ "Facile" is a confusing word.
facile adj.
1. Done or achieved with little effort or difficulty; easy. See Synonyms at easy.
2. Working, acting, or speaking with effortless ease and fluency.
3. Arrived at without due care, effort, or examination; superficial: proposed a facile solution to a complex problem.
4. Readily manifested, together with an aura of insincerity and lack of depth: a facile slogan devised by politicians.
5. Archaic Pleasingly mild, as in disposition or manner. (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/facile)
Facile in French just means "easy." In English, I usually think of it with the negative connotations of defs 3 and 4. But 2 is positive, and 1 is positive to neutral.
If a person is "facile," does s/he work, act, or speak with effortless ease and fluency? Or is s/he lazy, shallow, and insincere?
I tend to think of the latter. but the former is almost the opposite ... ???
that IS confusing! this is why I stick to simple words!
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A re-pete I think: my current favorite song of all time :D
Shakedown 1979, cool kids never have the time
On a live wire right up off the street
You and I should meet
Junebug skipping like a stone
With the headlights pointed at the dawn
We were sure we'd never see an end to it all
And I don't even care to shake these zipper blues
And we don't know
Just where our bones will rest
To dust I guess
Forgotten and absorbed into the earth below
Double cross the vacant and the bored
They're not sure just what we have in the store
Morphine city slippin dues down to see
That we don't even care as restless as we are
We feel the pull in the land of a thousand guilts
And poured cement, lamented and assured
To the lights and towns below
Faster than the speed of sound
Faster than we thought we'd go, beneath the sound of hope
Justine never knew the rules,
Hung down with the freaks and the ghouls
No apologies ever need be made, I know you better than you fake it
To see that we don't care to shake these zipper blues
And we don't know just where our bones will rest
To dust I guess
Forgotten and absorbed into the earth below
The street heats the urgency of sound
As you can see there's no one around
Truman and Rich, they played it this afternoon on the roof at what used to be 6 Feet Under. :) :) :)
Jess, Truman, Rich, RouxB, Lynne, Rich again, and all, hope you're having a wonderful evening...
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Hiya!
I've decided that if I have to be sick, everyone has to be sick, so I'm spreading my germs around!
*cough cough*
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;) ;D
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"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."
-- U.S. President Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864
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>:( ::) Actually the plural of anecdote is data. Sort of.
"Anecdote" is from Greek: an (not) ec (out) dote ("given;" the past participle of Greek didónai, meaning "to give"). Taken all together it means "unpublished item" ("not given out").
And data is are the plural of "datum" (past participle of Latin "dare", pronounced dah-ray, meaning "to give").
So the "dote" part of anecdote means "a given thing" and is indeed the singular of "data" which means "given things."
/ an-ec part means "what a terrible thing to lose"
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>:( ::) Actually the plural of anecdote is data. Sort of.
"Anecdote" is from Greek: an (not) ec (out) dote ("given;" the past participle of Greek didónai, meaning "to give"). Taken all together it means "unpublished item" ("not given out").
And data is are the plural of "datum" (past participle of Latin "dare", pronounced dah-ray, meaning "to give").
So the "dote" part of anecdote means "a given thing" and is indeed the singular of "data" which means "given things."
/ an-ec part means "what a terrible thing to lose"
well thank you!! I was just talking to Don about this...
;D ;D ;) :-*
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:D Hey Miz Jess! Hope you're having a fine day. ;D
Rainy here. We need it! :)
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:D Hey Miz Jess! Hope you're having a fine day. ;D
Rainy here. We need it! :)
we don't!! I want the ground to dry so I can start my garden! I got ONIONS to plant!! and potatoes!
and turnips!
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:D
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Wow! What kind of lens is that?
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cool pic!!
did you see the man on Good Morning America that had the pics from INSIDE waves? they were sooo cool!
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"I think what you are overlooking is the very broad powers of the people to amend the Constitution," she said. (http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-me-prop8-supreme-court6-2009mar06,0,2781358.story?page=3)
>:( :P So then it IS an amendment.
The California State Constitution CANNOT be amended by a simple majority vote.
Therefore Proposition 8 is invalid, because it is an amendment, which cannot be accomplished by a simple majority vote.
If you're going to mince words, then at least mince them in the direction that makes it sound like you agree with your own self. >:(
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If the California Supreme Court now declare that the Constitution can be amended by a simple majority vote, and a margin of FOUR PERCENT at that, but only when it hurts faggots and not other people, then they are pathetic cowards.
This was never the case before. But it's okay now because the minority whose rights are being taken away by an ILLEGAL process is faggots.
Now if it was somebody else's rights that were being taken away by an illegal process, then that would be, well, illegal! >:(
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And, further, we wouldn't be hearing any faux pieties glorifying a "might makes right" approach to civil rights tarted up as "the will of the people".
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"I think what you are overlooking is the very broad powers of the people to amend the Constitution," she said. (http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-me-prop8-supreme-court6-2009mar06,0,2781358.story?page=3)
>:( :P So then it IS an amendment.
The California State Constitution CANNOT be amended by a simple majority vote.
Therefore Proposition 8 is invalid, because it is an amendment, which cannot be accomplished by a simple majority vote.
If you're going to mince words, then at least mince them in the direction that makes it sound like you agree with your own self. >:(
I think people dont' need to be mincing anywhere anytime!
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Actually I think I got my wording wrong.
I think the rule is that they can "amend" the constitution with a simple majority vote. What they cannot do is "revise" it.
Oddly enough it makes me feel slightly better. At least they are being consistent in their ridicule. ::)
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Still, the river rises, and will continue to rise.
They can erect what ever impediments that can come up with, but they cannot hold back the river.
The time that they sink or swim is approaching. Till then, let us go with the flow.
;D Wow, I really packed a lot of clichet sound bits in that one! ;D
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If the California Supreme Court now declare that the Constitution can be amended by a simple majority vote, and a margin of FOUR PERCENT at that, but only when it hurts faggots and not other people, then they are pathetic cowards.
This was never the case before. But it's okay now because the minority whose rights are being taken away by an ILLEGAL process is faggots.
Now if it was somebody else's rights that were being taken away by an illegal process, then that would be, well, illegal! >:(
The justification I've most often heard is that unlike race and gender, homosexuality is a "choice." Regardless of whether it is or not, that would seem to be very thin ice to be skating on: religion is a choice too. If there's ever a serious movement to divest churches of their tax exemptions -- religion obviously having flourished for millenia without such perks -- you can bet that argument will be dropped as fast as a warm dog turd.
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Hey Shakes, Jess, and Miz Marge! Yeah, it's good to hear from some reassuring friends. :)
Hope y'all are having a great afternoon ;D
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You can watch the whole 3 and a half hours of last week's hearings on prop 8 here:
http://www.calchannel.com/images/sc_030509.htm
Have not watched it yet. Presumably it is unpleasant, but, there it is. :-\
tidbits
The Court would FIND A WAY to rule out constitutional amendment calling for death penalty for jaywalking.
At about 2 hrs 15 to 17 min, Starr quotes "As long as the people are fully aware of what they are voting on."
Many people said they supported prop 8 because otherwise their church would be required to perform same-sex weddings. So they were not fully aware of what they were voting on.
2:26: Ken Starr (yes, that Ken Starr) : prop 8 ONLY defines marriage. It does not take away all the other rights of gay people.
So if it ONLY said that gay people are not allowed to ride the blue line on the subway, that would be ok, as long as it didn't take away our right to breathe?
Apparently so. They didn't ask.
2:30 "rights are defined by the people"
So civil rights can be taken away by a simple majority vote?
2:32 the vast majority agree that marriage = mixed sex...
No, 52% agreed. That is a bare majority, not a vast majority.
2:56 what matters is what was the intent of the electorate
The intent of the electorate was to prevent their church from having to perform same-sex weddings. They were misled.
3:02 Suspect class / equal respect / equal dignity
3:09 How can you justify treating suspect class of sexual orientation different from suspect classes of gender and race?
3:18 the ruling should be that the initiative process cannot be used to take away a recognized fundamental right.
3:19 Unpleasantness.
3:24 a guarantee of inalienable rights that is subject to a simple majority vote is not inalienable at all.
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From the California Supreme Court's previous ruling (http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/archive/S147999.PDF)
pg 114
Because a person’s sexual orientation is so integral an aspect of one’s identity, it is not appropriate to require a person to repudiate or change his or her sexual orientation in order to avoid discriminatory treatment.
Fer cryin' out loud, what is it about pg 101-104 There is no persuasive basis for applying to statutes that classify persons on the basis of the suspect classification of sexual orientation a standard less rigorous than that applied to statutes that classify on the basis of the suspect classifications of gender, race, or religion. Because sexual orientation, like gender, race, or religion, is a characteristic that frequently has been the basis for biased and improperly stereotypical treatment and that generally bears no relation to an individual’s ability to perform or contribute to society, it is appropriate for courts to evaluate with great care and with considerable skepticism any statute that embodies such a classification. The strict scrutiny standard therefore is applicable to statutes that impose differential treatment on the basis of sexual orientation.
As discussed above (ante, pp. 80-82), one of the core elements embodied in the state constitutional right to marry is the right of an individual and a couple to have their own official family relationship accorded respect and dignity equal to that accorded the family relationship of other couples. Even when the state affords substantive legal rights and benefits to a couple’s family relationship that are comparable to the rights and benefits afforded to other couples, the state’s assignment of a different name to the couple’s relationship poses a risk that the different name itself will have the effect of denying such couple’s relationship the equal respect and dignity to which the couple is constitutionally entitled. Plaintiffs contend that in the present context, the different nomenclature prescribed by the current California statutes properly must be understood as having just such a constitutionally suspect effect.
We agree with plaintiffs’ contention in this regard. Although in some contexts the establishment of separate institutions or structures to remedy the past denial of rights or benefits has been found to be constitutionally permissible,65 and although it may be possible to conceive of some circumstances in which assignment of the name “marriage” to one category of family relationship and of a name other than marriage to another category of family relationship would not likely be stigmatizing or raise special constitutional concerns,66 for a number of reasons we conclude that in the present context, affording same-sex couples access only to the separate institution of domestic partnership, and denying such couples access to the established institution of marriage, properly must be viewed as impinging upon the right of those couples to have their family relationship accorded respect and dignity equal to that accorded the family relationship of opposite-sex couples.
First, because of the long and celebrated history of the term “marriage” and the widespread understanding that this term describes a union unreservedly approved and favored by the community, there clearly is a considerable and undeniable symbolic importance to this designation. Thus, it is apparent that affording access to this designation exclusively to opposite-sex couples, while providing same-sex couples access to only a novel alternative designation, realistically must be viewed as constituting significantly unequal treatment to same-sex couples. In this regard, plaintiffs persuasively invoke by analogy the decisions of the United States Supreme Court finding inadequate a state’s creation of a separate law school for Black students rather than granting such students access to the University of Texas Law School (Sweatt v. Painter (1950) 339 U.S. 629, 634),67 and a state’s founding of a separate military program for women rather than admitting women to the Virginia Military Institute (United States v. Virginia (1996) 518 U.S. 515, 555-556). As plaintiffs maintain, these high court decisions demonstrate that even when the state grants ostensibly equal benefits to a previously excluded class through the creation of a new institution, the intangible symbolic differences that remain often are constitutionally significant.
Second, particularly in light of the historic disparagement of and discrimination against gay persons, there is a very significant risk that retaining a distinction in nomenclature with regard to this most fundamental of relationships whereby the term “marriage” is denied only to same-sex couples inevitably will cause the new parallel institution that has been made available to those couples to be viewed as of a lesser stature than marriage and, in effect, as a mark of secondclass citizenship. As the Canada Supreme Court observed in an analogous context: “One factor which may demonstrate that legislation that treats a claimant differently has the effect of demeaning the claimant’s dignity is the existence of pre-existing disadvantage, stereotyping, prejudice, or vulnerability experienced by the individual or group at issue. . . . ‘ . . . It is logical to conclude that, in most cases, further differential treatment will contribute to the perpetuation or promotion of their unfair social characterization, and will have a more severe impact upon them, since they are already vulnerable.’ ” (M. v. H. [1999] 2 S.C.R. 3, 54-55 [¶ 68].)
Third, it also is significant that although the meaning of the term “marriage” is well understood by the public generally, the status of domestic partnership is not. While it is true that this circumstance may change over time, it is difficult to deny that the unfamiliarity of the term “domestic partnership” is likely, for a considerable period of time, to pose significant difficulties and complications for same-sex couples, and perhaps most poignantly for their children, that would not be presented if, like opposite-sex couples, same-sex couples were permitted access to the established and well-understood family relationship of marriage. (See generally N. J. Civil Union Review Com., First Interim Rep. (Feb. 19, 2008) pp. 6-18 <http://www.nj.gov/oag/dcr/downloads/1st-InterimReport-CURC.pdf> [as of May 15, 2008].)
Under these circumstances, we conclude that the distinction drawn by the current California statutes between the designation of the family relationship available to opposite-sex couples and the designation available to same-sex couples impinges upon the fundamental interest of same-sex couples in having their official family relationship accorded dignity and respect equal to that conferred upon the family relationship of opposite-sex couples." that they don't understand?!? >:(
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Happy St. Patrick's Day, Wayne!
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:laugh: lol thanks C O'D, and top of the afternoon to ya. ;)
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HAPPY EASTER, Y'all!
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just wanted to keep track of this.
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Hey there, Wayne!
How goes it? Remember that promise about coming to Alberta if Truman and I go? Well, I'm signed up, so we've got to work some travel magic on him!
Love,
Lynne
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cool website..
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/04/cassinis_continued_mission.html (http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/04/cassinis_continued_mission.html)
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:D Thanks for the Saturn link Jess, and great news Lynne! :)
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WAYNE!!
The CIA needs you!!!
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/17-05/ff_kryptos (http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/17-05/ff_kryptos)
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:D omg what a cool picture! Atlantis crossing in front of the sun. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/may/15/atlantis-shuttle-hubble-telescope-nasa)
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WAYNE!!
The CIA needs you!!!
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/17-05/ff_kryptos (http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/17-05/ff_kryptos)
Thanks Jess! For now, I'm having a hard enough time with just plain English! :-\ :laugh:
Hope you're doing well. :)
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Thanks Jess! For now, I'm having a hard enough time with just plain English! :-\ :laugh:
Hope you're doing well. :)
I am doing good....
but you can figure that out while you are waiting for a light or something...you are very smart.
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:D Some people at the school where I go report that bans on same-sex marriage can be tied to a rise in the rate of HIV infection. (http://www.emory.edu/home/news/releases/2009/06/study-links-gay-marriage-bans-to-rise-in-hiv-rate.html)
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I had thought that the GOP takeover of the NY State Senate meant there would be no chance for same-sex marriage in NY this session. But there are some interesting twists going on. One of the two Democratic defectors, Pedro Espada, is a cosponsor of the (pro-) gay marriage bill. He said on radio yesterday that he supports gay marriage and he thinks it will come to the floor for a vote.
And Towleroad reports today that Joe Bruno, Former New York GOP Senate Leader, Supports Gay Marriage (http://www.towleroad.com/2009/06/former-ny-gop-senate-leader-joe-bruno-for-marriage-equality.html).
Just a little something to feel better about.
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:D OMG this one is especially for Jess!!! :o :laugh: :-*
Olam Ha-Ba: The Messianic Age (http://www.jewfaq.org/moshiach.htm#Age)
The world after the messiah comes is often referred to in Jewish literature as Olam Ha-Ba (oh-LAHM hah-BAH), the World to Come. This term can cause some confusion, because it is also used to refer to a spiritual afterlife. In English, we commonly use the term "messianic age" to refer specifically to the time of the messiah.
Olam Ha-Ba will be characterized by the peaceful co-existence of all people (Isaiah 2:4). Hatred, intolerance and war will cease to exist. Some authorities suggest that the laws of nature will change, so that predatory beasts will no longer seek prey and agriculture will bring forth supernatural abundance (Isaiah 11:6-11:9). Others, however, say that these statements are merely an allegory for peace and prosperity.
All of the Jewish people will return from their exile among the nations to their home in Israel (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). The law of the Jubilee will be reinstated.
In the Olam Ha-Ba, the whole world will recognize the Jewish G-d as the only true G-d, and the Jewish religion as the only true religion (Isaiah 2:3; 11:10; Micah 4:2-3; Zechariah 14:9). There will be no murder, robbery, competition or jealousy. There will be no sin (Zephaniah 3:13). Sacrifices will continue to be brought in the Temple, but these will be limited to thanksgiving offerings, because there will be no further need for expiatory offerings.
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:D I think this is funny. It is, right? ???
(I'm pretty sure it's not the KKK but rather the Spanish Inquisition, which is *much* funnier.)
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They see me rollin, they hatin
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:D Intellectual stuff
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18561014
New evidence of genetic factors influencing sexual orientation in men: female fecundity increase in the maternal line.Iemmola F, Camperio Ciani A.
Department of General Psychology, University of Padova, via Belzoni 80, Padua, Italy.
There is a long-standing debate on the role of genetic factors influencing homosexuality because the presence of these factors contradicts the Darwinian prediction according to which natural selection should progressively eliminate the factors that reduce individual fecundity and fitness. Recently, however, Camperio Ciani, Corna, and Capiluppi (Proceedings of the Royal Society of London, Series B: Biological Sciences, 271, 2217-2221, 2004), comparing the family trees of homosexuals with heterosexuals, reported a significant increase in fecundity in the females related to the homosexual probands from the maternal line but not in those related from the paternal one. This suggested that genetic factors that are partly linked to the X-chromosome and that influence homosexual orientation in males are not selected against because they increase fecundity in female carriers, thus offering a solution to the Darwinian paradox and an explanation of why natural selection does not progressively eliminate homosexuals. Since then, new data have emerged suggesting not only an increase in maternal fecundity but also larger paternal family sizes for homosexuals. These results are partly conflicting and indicate the need for a replication on a wider sample with a larger geographic distribution. This study examined the family trees of 250 male probands, of which 152 were homosexuals. The results confirmed the study of Camperio Ciani et al. (2004). We observed a significant fecundity increase even in primiparous mothers, which was not evident in the previous study. No evidence of increased paternal fecundity was found; thus, our data confirmed a sexually antagonistic inheritance partly linked to the X-chromosome that promotes fecundity in females and a homosexual sexual orientation in males.
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Happy
4th
Of
July
Wayne!
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Congradulations Wayne on the suscessfull defence of your lifes' work!!!!
Congradulations, DOCTOR McGay !!!!!!!!!!
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Way to go Doc!!!
I'm very happy for you!!
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Thanks Truman, Rich, and Chuck! :D
I got all my paperwork filed this past week. Tomorrow I just have to create and submit the pdf and I'm all done.
Love and hugs.
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:D Here's the research study I have always wanted to do!!! :D
What do people really respond to, sexually I mean? (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/magazine/25desire-t.html?fta=y)
Hook up a plethysmograph to men and women, gay and straight, and show them porn: male and female, human and ... uh ... bonobo chimp?!?!?
I have to admit I had never thought of showing bonobo chimp porn. ??? :laugh:
You check both their physiological sexual reaction and their self-reported (type yes or no) reaction.
Findings: The men, both gay and straight, responded sexually to just what they said they were responding to. Gay guys to dudes, straight guys to chicks, none of them to chimps.
But the laydeez! They liked everything!! They tended to say they liked whatever was appropriate to their sexual orientation, but physiologically they were reacting to everything!
Except they didn't react much to the naked dude. Regardless of whether they self-identified as lesbian or straight, they reacted to the naked chick, but not the naked dude!! :laugh:
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Congratulations, Doctor Widge!
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Happy birthday, Dr. Wayne!!
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:D Thanks Fritz and Front-Ranger! ;D
Ranger expecially - oops! I put a fake birthday so as to avoid ID theft...
Nobody's gonna take *my* id away! :D :D :D
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Oh and Fritz I think that's the first time I've been called Dr. Widge! :laugh: :D ;D
Y'all have a great day!
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Ranger expecially - oops! I put a fake birthday so as to avoid ID theft...
hehe, I think you fooled me last year, too...I'm a sucker for cherry cake!
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:D Cup a coffee? Thanks FR! And happy birthday to you too when it gets here! ;D
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Well shut my mouth!
Obama Makes Explicit His Objection to DOMA (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/08/17/obama_makes_explicit_his_objec.html)
"President Obama made clear Monday that he favors the repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act, and intends to ask Congress to repeal the 13-year-old law that denies benefits to domestic partners of federal employees and allows states to reject same-sex marriages performed in other states. "
Of course, they had to say this in a brief *defending* DOMA in court. :-\
Some things I don't exactly understand. Would I want a Bush 43 White House to have the option *not* to enforce laws they didn't want to enforce?
Well, I wouldn't want them to, but I bet they just did what they wanted to. If they didn't like a law, they would not defend it.
I suspect that Obama has the prerogative *not* to defend the law and is defending it anyway. I HOPE I am wrong. Somebody please prove to me that I'm wrong!!! :laugh: :laugh:
Anyway it's a good turnaround at least in lip service from what they did a few months ago, when they compared gay people to child molesters. >:(
"Obama issued a statement noting that, although his administration is again defending DOMA in court, "this brief makes clear...that my administration believes the act is discriminatory and should be repealed by Congress."
"While we work with Congress to repeal DOMA, my administration will continue to examine and implement measures that will help extend rights and benefits to LGBT couples under existing law," Obama said in the statement. "
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:o Don't let Game and Fish catch us with no elf !
Two Wyoming brothers from Rawlins who authorities say tried to illegally kill a large bull elk in Grand Teton National Park have received citations. (http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/wyoming/article_6a218554-a01a-11de-8553-001cc4c002e0.html)
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Great Day! And Jack was worried about getting caught with an Elk of all things.
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:laugh: Hey Shakes! Hope you're havin a great day. And thanks for the chipmunk! Friend of all. :D
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:laugh: Hey Chucklets! Hope you're having a great day! :)
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:laugh: Hey Shakes! Hope you're havin a great day. And thanks for the chipmunk! Friend of all. :D
Uu elcome. ;D
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Éste es una obra clásica verdadera. Conjeturo que alguna gente quiere dominar una lengua antes de encenderse a un segundo. ;)
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It's the Amnety-ville Horror! Thanks, Wayne!
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:laugh: Hey Chucklets! Hope you're having a great day! :)
Oh yeah! Hope you are too!
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Éste es una obra clásica verdadera. Conjeturo que alguna gente quiere dominar una lengua antes de encenderse a un segundo. ;)
Si! Esso mako el senso al mio! :)
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:o In the category of "Why didn't anybody tell me this ?!?"
According to this site about song lyrics, (http://www.inthe70s.com/generated/lyricsmeaning.shtml) the woman who inspired George Harrison to write the song "Something" was the same woman who inspired Eric Clapton to write "Layla."
(Also "Wonderful Tonight" but it's not in the same league as Layla and Something.)
They both married her at one time or another. She must be quite something! :o
Patti Boyd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattie_Boyd)
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Plus which her sister married Mick Fleetwood. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Fleetwood)
Star shaggers! :laugh: ::)
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:) btw Thanks for the note southend! Hope you're having a great evenin.
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Reminds me of a sign on a business that I once saw near North Platte, Nebraska.
If you can read this, thank a teacher.
If it's in English, thank a solder.
(sic)
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:laugh: :-\ Fritz ... :laugh:
Hope you're doin good! :D
Ich hoffe du gut tust!
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It's been raining all day so I watched a movie on Sundance... it was great!!!
I know some of y'all have seen it -- "Love Songs".
Love me less, but love me for a long time. :D Awww, so sweet !!! :D :-\ :'( :-* :D
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Danke Widge, sehr gut!
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:D Awww ....
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RrKjM2fKMQ[/youtube]
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Teh Rapture occurs today ! :o :-\ (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/09/oh_no_warning_alert_alert_aler.php)
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Well dang, looks like the Raputre never happened! :-\
Oh well, that means we get to celebrate Mahatma Gandhi's birthday! :D
Happy Mohandasday everybody! ;D ;D ;D
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Well dang, looks like the Raputre never happened! :-\
Oh well, that means we get to celebrate Mahatma Gandhi's birthday! :D
Well, if you want, you can plan and panic about 2012. That's the latest prediction of the world's end.
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Raputre? Oh, foutre!
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:laugh: the Raputre ... :laugh: :blush:
Hey maybe we could use this machine to catch up with them!! :D
:o :o
Plasma Rocket Could Travel to Mars in 39 Days (http://www.physorg.com/news174031552.html)
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Hey Dr Widge! Down in Six Mile, Pickens County, SC right now, taking care of my mother while my sister and b-i-l are gone down to New Orleans.
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Happy Thanksgiving Wayne!
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Guess Wayne must be busy.
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;D Hey you guise !!! Thanks for the notes Chuck and Fritzk. Hope you're having a great day!
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Hey Wayne, I was thinking of you this morning. I recently got in contact with Paul MeJack and he told me about his trip to Six Feet Under. I told him I was gone have to call you today.
Hope the annual observance of Thanksgiving exceeded your wildest expecatations and that Hulda/Adluh played a part in the festivities.
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;D Hey you guise !!! Thanks for the notes Chuck and Fritzk. Hope you're having a great day!
Well, Thanksgiving day was nice.....today not so much! Cold, grey and rainy here in NJ.
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OK Wayne, I am waiting for a comment. ;)
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Hey you guyze thanks for the notes! Hope you're doing well. Everything's fine here. I got my square dancing degree this summer! :D
Shakes you talked with Paul ! I'm glad he's back in touch ...
Any BBM gatherings coming up soon?
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Any BBM gatherings coming up soon?
Hi Wayne, There's going to be a Brokie gathering in April. Our Brokie friends, Sue(Katie77) and Rob (Underdown), are coming from Australia. First stop my house in Florida! Im hoping Lynne will Fly down from Boston and I think Chuck(CelllarDweller) said he wants to come, and of course Fiona(Optom3) You are welcome if you want. You and Rich are not too far you can drive. I would like to see both of you!
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Merry Christmas Wayne!!!!
Hope you have had a happy holiday season,
and that the past year has been a great on for you!
May 2010 bring you more great things!
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Hello Wayne.
It's time to say "good-bye"
to 2009, and I hope it
was a good year for you.
I hope that 2010 brings you
good health
good fortune
happiness
and all that you can wish for.
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Belated Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Dr Widge!
Just got home from New Orleans a few days ago, spending the holidays with family.
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:D Thanks for the good wishes Chuck, Fritz, Dev, and Shakes! Hugs and best wishes to youse too! :-* :-*
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omWZXIwDUP0[/youtube]
Old sentimental favorite ... 'E's a Tory but I'll be open-minded ;)
He was robbed that year with Billy Joel, I don't care what they say! :D
Y'all take care!
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:D Now we're talkin!
McCain's wife, daughter back gay marriage movement (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/20/AR2010012004764.html)
I mean, NOT talkin!! ;D :-X
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:D
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Save your tears for the day
That may not come
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:D
Spray-on liquid glass is about to revolutionize almost everything (http://www.physorg.com/news184310039.html)
Spray-on liquid glass is transparent, non-toxic, and can protect virtually any surface against almost any damage from hazards such as water, UV radiation, dirt, heat, and bacterial infections. The coating is also flexible and breathable, which makes it suitable for use on an enormous array of products.
(http://cdn.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/sprayonliqui.jpg)
There are no additives, and the nano-scale glass coating bonds to the surface because of the quantum forces involved. The liquid glass spray produces a water-resistant coating only around 100 nanometers (15-30 molecules) thick. :o
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:-\ There seems to be a lot of talk on the Internet today about 9/11 and the Challenger explosion.
Why is that? Is it because all you guys are snowed in?
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:) Hey Chuck! I just happened to notice it when I clicked on a vid somebody sent me, and then oddly in a different context I saw that somebody else mentioned it... Not sure why it seemed that way to both of us.
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In other news,
MY LIFE IS COMPLETE AGAIN!!! ;D :D ;D (http://www.people.com/people/gallery/0,,20342487,00.html#20736821)
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:o :o :D (http://www.usmagazine.com/hotpics/photos/good-sport-201092)
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Oooohhh thanks for that Wayne. And a special thanks for the hands close-ups!
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Thanks Buffy, and you're welcome! :D
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What game was this, friend?
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;D Hey F.-R.! It was just a few days ago: Feb 8, Lakers vs San Antonio Spurs.
There are 54 pix at: http://www.iheartjakemedia.com/thumbnails.php?album=1485 (http://www.iheartjakemedia.com/thumbnails.php?album=1485)
You have to register and log in to see them full size.
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Everybody ready for the Opening Ceremony? :D :D
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Happy Valentine's Day, Wayne!
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whut?
???
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:laugh: Hey Chuck, how yoo doin? ;)
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Other than not getting your last post, I'm fine! ;D
How are you?
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??? Did somebody (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1852) join the wrong forum? :laugh: ::)
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I believe they did!
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:laugh: It's not that bare nekkid ladies aren't welcome, it's just that it didn't look like she was going to find what she was looking for here ... ;)
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Happy St. Patrick's Day, Wayne!
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I think this will be my official "good-bye" post for the blogs when I leave for a trip.
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:laugh: lol thx chuck!!
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I'm sure this topic has been covered elsewhere, but I told you she didn't have a dick :laugh: :-* :-*
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This shot is a Caravaggio - the disciples flirt and eat popcorn while Chris lifts his gaze to heaven.
Christ lifts his gays to heaven
Ora pro nobis
Pray for us
Happy Pentecost :)
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Ora pro nobis
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Hiya Wayne!
Happy Independence Day
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Thanks for thinking of me Chuck et al, happy everything to you too :)
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Dinah! :-* :-* :-*
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lol fritz :laugh: and Pauly (klik)
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Hey there, Wayne,
I am rapidly on my way to dream-land, but I wanted to thank you and Cliff for your generosity this past weekend, opening your home to all of us. Being together was good, even necessary.
Also, the crown-of-thorns plants made it safely to the south end. I have them and will pot them tomorrow, then give Paul his...
Which reminds me, I forgot my toiletries, left them in Paul's checked bag. I wonder if he kept them on purpose so he can try out my mascara and eye-liner.
???
I will let you know how that goes.
;) :-*
(see? delirium...)
Sweet dreams, my friend.
Lynne
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he can try out my mascara and eye-liner
pix pls :)
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just got a txt from Truman that he is home. :) hope you can get some well-deserved rest now shakes ...
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just got a txt from Truman that he is home. :) hope you can get some well-deserved rest now shakes ...
I second that, Wayne.
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Hey there, Wayne,
I am rapidly on my way to dream-land, but I wanted to thank you and Cliff for your generosity this past weekend, opening your home to all of us. Being together was good, even necessary.
I'll second that.
Also, the crown-of-thorns plants made it safely to the south end. I have them and will pot them tomorrow, then give Paul his...
Which reminds me, I forgot my toiletries, left them in Paul's checked bag. I wonder if he kept them on purpose so he can try out my mascara and eye-liner.
???
I will let you know how that goes.
;) :-*
(see? delirium...)
Sweet dreams, my friend.
Lynne
Your makeup is being held hostage (and unused) until I receive my plant.
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Being together was good, even necessary.
Yes, it meant a lot to me too to have you here. thanks to all of you for coming.
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Off to bed. Miss y'all; love, good night. :-* :-*
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I'll second that.
Your makeup is being held hostage (and unused) until I receive my plant.
Hostage, I believe...unused, well - I'll be the judge of that. I know exactly how much eye-liner was left. The mascara will be harder. FYI - the eye-liner isn't your color. It is brown/red, whereas you need a black/charcoal. Hunh, turns out I must have at least one girl gene. ;)
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unused
Paulie we checked the video cams that we set up around your house, so you don't have to hide your makeup "secret" any more. Let us know if you need to process now that the story is out. ;)
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I wanted to thank you and Cliff for your generosity this past weekend, opening your home to all of us. Being together was good, even necessary.
Also, the crown-of-thorns plants made it safely to the south end. I have them and will pot them tomorrow, then give Paul his...
I just wanted to second this, Wayne. Thanks for all the carting around and hosting you did. You made things much easier for the traveling Brokies, and my plant is resting in its new home on the back deck in the sun.
And you have a really cool home! ;D
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Hostage, I believe...unused, well - I'll be the judge of that. I know exactly how much eye-liner was left. The mascara will be harder. FYI - the eye-liner isn't your color. It is brown/red, whereas you need a black/charcoal. Hunh, turns out I must have at least one girl gene. ;)
:laugh:
If Paul uses eye-liner, does it become guy-liner?
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:laugh:
If Paul uses eye-liner, does it become guy-liner?
I believe that's how it works, Chuck, but you'd know more about that than I would. ;)
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Paulie we checked the video cams that we set up around your house, so you don't have to hide your makeup "secret" any more. Let us know if you need to process now that the story is out. ;)
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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;)
Oops! got some mascara stuck on my right eyelashes ;) ;) ;)
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Thanks
Aww, it truly was my pleasure. Thank y'all for coming down and sharing the time with me too.
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Paulie we checked the video cams that we set up around your house, so you don't have to hide your makeup "secret" any more. Let us know if you need to process now that the story is out. ;)
You got the wrong Paulie. Pauly?
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If Paul uses eye-liner, does it become guy-liner?
Adam Lambert and I have SO much in common.
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Adam Lambert and I have SO much in common.
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Wayne, thank you for taking our Brokie friends in, for opening your heart and your home. It feels like a gift to our community, and since I'm part of it, I feel like saying thanks.
This ain't was no little thing you were doing!
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Thank you Penthe, I wouldn't have it any other way.
We were and are all heart-broken. Speaking only for myself, the love among us and with Gene's and Rich's family and friends were the best therapy there could be.
Our time together was a blessing for me; I wish we could just stay together.
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Eight or ten drifters off to see the world... Johnny Mercer was from Savannah, so Moon River for me is the Savannah River that I cross on the way from Atlanta back to my home town of Columbia SC...
Love hugs and g'nite to all of you my huckleberry friends :-* :-*
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOByH_iOn88[/youtube]
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((((((((((((Wayne)))))))))))))))
It was so generous of you to take people in. Just wish I could have been down there myself.
Earl and I were with y'all in spirit.
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thanks for the note fritz. it was a joy for me that they were here ... so deeply sad, so deeply consoled ...
i think of you and Earl fondly too. when can we get together ? :) :-*
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Earl hates to travel, so to see him you'd have to come up here! :D
I, on the other hand, get down to SC a few times a year....
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Hey! Actually I was just about to write you - I think I'll be in DC Aug 26-28. Maybe we could meet for dinner Friday night? It's business and plans are not solid yet but let me know if that would be conceivable.
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We're having houseguests (Ing from DCF, his partner, and MaineGirl) around that time, from the 23 to maybe the 26 (I have to check on the exact dates), but maybe after that! At some point I plan to be in Baltimore because they'll be visiting Linda (Killersmom)'s sister there, and she'll be there too. But it might still be possible! Let me check on the dates. We'd love to have dinner with you that Friday night!
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:) Let's stay in touch, see how it works out. I'll probably be in Baltimore till about 5.
Hey Truman, DC is kinda far I guess? Y'all have a great day :-*
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Hiya Wayné!
*waves* :-*
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:D Hey precious, have a great afternoon :-*
Wayné :laugh:
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Hey Wayne, I didn't even realize that you had a blog here. I'm glad I found it. Thanks again for all you did for us. Even under the unhappy circumstances I did really enjoy visiting you and meeting you. I miss not getting to talk to you.
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and he and Cliff had a lot of cool stuff in that house, huh?
;D
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:) thx y'all, i'm so happy we could be together. thank you so much for coming. it was an intensely sad but beautiful time for me. i look forward to seeing you again soon.
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Hiya Wayné!
Just checking in on the blogs to see how everyone is!
Hope you are well!
Have another tiki mask for your home!
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Scaree!! thx for the mask Chuck, doing fine. Well wishes to you too :)
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and he and Cliff had a lot of cool stuff in that house, huh?
;D
That is for sure........lots of cool stuff!!!
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Hey Widge! Hope you had a safe trip back!
I don't know when I'll get the photos uploaded to PB, it's being quite recalcitrant. In the meantime here's a public link to all of mine on FB, visits by Ing, Sue, S as well as you.
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=24373&id=100000944364275&l=ec59328c6e
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;D Thanks Fritz! I had a wonderful time yesterday evening with you and Earl. hugs and take care :-* :-*
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;D Something fun for us Brokies. Everybody have a great day! :-*
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv49bC5xGVY[/youtube]
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Hi Wayne, I don't think we've chatted for a few years!
Thanks for putting that vid up. It's nice to see singers who identify as heterosexual not afraid to do this kind of song any more. What a long way from 2005 when Williams was doing a lawsuit over gay rumors. Now he has married his girlfriend, made up with Gary Barlow and Take That and does seem to want to be mending a lot of bridges. Who knows where he will be in 2015? I hope, well over the demons and not afraid of the truth whatever he finds it to be. He knows the video can be taken in a lot of ways and so can the song. I guess that's how you make a song that means something to a lot of very different people !
"Well there's three version of this story, mine, and yours and then the truth.
Words come easy when they're true.
I wrote a letter in my mind but the words were so unkind about a man I can't remember.
I don't recall the reasons why.
I must have meant them at the time.
Is this the sound of sweet surrender?
And all that went away was the price we paid.
People spend a life time this way.
Oh what a shame."
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A little weather delay but well worth it for the rain. What a wonderful time ... I'm so happy and very sad. Love you all.
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Love back to ya, Wayne! ;D
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:)
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Eddie Long don't preach with no anointing. I told you all along Eddie Long was gettin his dick sucked.The Bible says you should pray for discernment. If you have a problem with that you can kiss my mother fuckin ass!
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBwlR0wrhkw[/youtube]
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Hiya Wayne!
It was sooooooo good to see you last weekend! :-*
I'm thinking about placing a video on YouTube, I've discussed it on my blog...
give it a read (please) and let me know what you think on my blog! Thanks!
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,13511.msg588144.html#msg588144
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Hello Wayne!
Happy Halloween!
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:o Eeek! Thx Re-A, you too! :D :-*
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;D Jake and I are so proud of our son Wake.
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He is so lovely. I know you both are proud. ;D
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:laugh: Especially Jake ;)
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Eddie Long don't preach with no anointing. I told you all along Eddie Long was gettin his dick sucked.The Bible says you should pray for discernment. If you have a problem with that you can kiss my mother fuckin ass!
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBwlR0wrhkw[/youtube]
Elly Law, what is it wid the womens want to record youtube videos up in their bathrooms?
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;D Jake and I are so proud of our son Wake.
Brilliant!!!
Hi Wayne, I don't think we've chatted for a few years!
Thanks for putting that vid up. It's nice to see singers who identify as heterosexual not afraid to do this kind of song any more. What a long way from 2005 when Williams was doing a lawsuit over gay rumors. Now he has married his girlfriend, made up with Gary Barlow and Take That and does seem to want to be mending a lot of bridges. Who knows where he will be in 2015? I hope, well over the demons and not afraid of the truth whatever he finds it to be. He knows the video can be taken in a lot of ways and so can the song. I guess that's how you make a song that means something to a lot of very different people !
"Well there's three version of this story, mine, and yours and then the truth.
Words come easy when they're true.
I wrote a letter in my mind but the words were so unkind about a man I can't remember.
I don't recall the reasons why.
I must have meant them at the time.
Is this the sound of sweet surrender?
And all that went away was the price we paid.
People spend a life time this way.
Oh what a shame."
I'm off to see these boys in June! And i can't wait!
Take That and Robbie sold out their tour (of one million tickets) in less than 24 hours - fastest selling tickets in the UK ever. My friend managed to get me a ticket - I tried but every website was crashing....
I was at the last take That tour and it was such great fun - I felt like a teenager again! So I intend to relive my youth again in June!
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Happy Thanksgiving Wayne!
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:)
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Oh, My, Gawd!
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You shop in some odd places, Wayne.
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I think I'd rather remain "unloved".
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Merry Christmas Wayne!!!!
Hope you have had a happy holiday season,
and that the past year has been a great one for you!
May 2011 bring you more great things!
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Happy New Year Wayne!
I hope that 2011 brings you
great things and happy memories!
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Belated Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Wayne!
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:D Aww thank yall Merry Belated Christmas to you too!! Chuck is that pic from NYC?!?
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Yeah, it is!
I saw you in the background of a group shot, and you looked so cute, I had to post it!
I think it would make a great avatar! *hint hint*
Oh, btw, the Crown Of Thorns plant is doing really well! It's flowered three times or so, has three pink blossoms now.
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aw thx Chuck that is nice!
I'm so glad the C of T is doing well ! During the winter, you might get max flowers if you give it maximum sunlight by putting it in a south-facing window --- sunlight = flowers :D
only after all risk of freezing is past, it can go outside, but must never be out any night the temp is 32 or below.
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Happy Valentine's Day, Wayne!
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HAPPY WASHINGTON'S BIRTHDAY, WAYNE!
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Hey Wayne, have a nice long weekend.
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;D Hey friends, thanks for the happy wishes. Hugs to y'all too! :-* :-*
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How's it goin', Wayne! ;D
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Hey Wayne! :-*
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*waves to Wayne*
Ohhhhh.........March 15th!
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Happy St.
Patrick's Day
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Happy Easter, Wayne!
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:) Thanks Chuck, Kelda and friends! Hope everybody's having a great holiday :-* :-*
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Happy
Independence
Day
Wayne!!!
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:'( love to Lydia and friends...
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Amen.