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Title: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: JennyC on July 01, 2006, 12:01:41 am
I am sure many people who read this section of BetterMost are already fans of Somebody New by Jenna Hilary Sinclair.  This is just to give the people who are not aware of this fan fiction a chance to read it.  This story is not to be missed.  You are lucky that you don't have to go through the agony of waiting for updates any more.  Last chapter is posted today and the story is complete.  :)

http://jennasts.livejournal.com/ (http://jennasts.livejournal.com/)
The story started on March 28th, 2006.

UPDATE:
“Force of Nature” is the sequel to “Somebody New”.  Jenna started posting the sequel on August 25th, 2006.
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: marakeshsparrow on July 01, 2006, 02:11:18 am
Yay! I'm the first one to post!  Woohoo!

There are no words for the splendor that is Somebody new.  No words.  So why am I even bothering???  Good question. 
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: twistedude on July 01, 2006, 02:52:21 am
Well, first I read chapter 1 and then i read dhapter about 20, and Ai really don't know where to go from here. Isn't there any way to rad these things consecutively?
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: JennyC on July 01, 2006, 03:06:10 am
Well, first I read chapter 1 and then i read dhapter about 20, and Ai really don't know where to go from here. Isn't there any way to rad these things consecutively?

Julie,

This may not be the best way, but you can try use this link.  It's a calendar of of Jenna's LJ.  The story started on March 28th.  Click though the dates with postings to read all the chapters.
http://jennasts.livejournal.com/calendar (http://jennasts.livejournal.com/calendar)


Or here http://web.mac.com/luigi.adami/iWeb/Somebody_New/Somebody%20New.html (http://web.mac.com/luigi.adami/iWeb/Somebody_New/Somebody%20New.html), but I don't like the black background on this site, and the newly posted chapters may not be uploaded to the website yet.
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: tamarack on July 01, 2006, 06:39:58 am
WOW! It's here!! Thanks, Jenna. So glad that you are feeling better, expecially for your sake but for ours, too.  :)
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: RouxB on July 03, 2006, 12:53:03 pm
I highly recommend this story-it is in my top 3 for sure!


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Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: jpwagoneer1964 on July 15, 2006, 11:57:16 pm
Really liked the story. Was afraid to read cuz of the title. Great job!!!!!
Mark
Title: Somebody New LJ community now up and running - come join us!
Post by: Helen on July 21, 2006, 01:24:41 pm
Hey folks......guess what me and Jenna have been cooking up....!!

A new LJ community for fans and readers of the BBM A/U novel Somebody New by Jenna  is now open at http://community.livejournal.com/somebodynew_j4e/. (http://community.livejournal.com/somebodynew_j4e/.) 

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/roma_uk/somebodynew/somebodynew4copy.jpg)

Everybody is welcome to join in and see what’s going on!  We’re opening the community with a short story challenge based on a few lines from the novel.  We’re hoping that you will also be interested in participating in general Brokeback Mountain discussion and a thread on writing that Jenna hopes to start in a few days, along with other types of challenges we have in mind.  The entire novel is archived on the site, definitely the best place to read it for those who haven’t done so yet.  Please stop by and say hello.


Come and join us :D



Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: JennyC on July 21, 2006, 01:57:23 pm
Thanks for the link, Helen!

Ruby is going to jump up and down now.  She loves this story so much.
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: RouxB on July 21, 2006, 02:20:14 pm
Jenny-

You are my fan fic guardian angel!  :-*


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Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: JennyC on August 09, 2006, 03:14:48 pm
Just want to let all Somebody New fans know that Jenna is planning a sequel to the story!  :)

The announcement can be found under the LJ community for Somebody New (Helen provided the link above).  Here is a copy of the post.

Schedule for Sequel to Somebody New
Since a few people have asked me, I thought I'd lay out my hopes for writing the sequel to Somebody New. I hate to think that folks might be checking my LJ or the Somebody New Community on a regular basis looking for something new from me. It's better if you have a date in mind!

I am hoping to start writing the sequel to Somebody New,

which will be a novel called Force of Nature, the week of August 13, right after I come back from the Brokeback Backyard Barbecue. I hope to *post* the results from those first writing sessions sometime during the week of August 20, probably later in the week. The first posting will be an introductory, short piece immediately followed by chapter one.

I do hope to post a chapter at a time, or maybe two chapters at a time if the rhythm of the piece demands it, as was sometimes the case for Somebody New. Force of Nature looks to be another substantial novel, although different in pace and tone than SN. I would be surprised if it did not go longer than SN, too. I do have a definite ending for it in mind, along with extensive notes and outlines -- which will undoubtedly change as the story develops. And, I guess I can say that the novel will cover a few months and will start in the summer of 1984, so just a few months after the ending of SN.

There! That's all for now. I can't wait to get back into Jack and Ennis's world again. Thanks so much for your interest!

Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: littleguitar on August 09, 2006, 05:05:43 pm
that is really exciting!! I loved Somebody New and have been looking for an excuse to reread it and now I have one (as if I really needed one anyway...) I also just saw the post about the Somebody New community, I'll have to join... Thanks for the update!!  ;D
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: RouxB on August 09, 2006, 07:55:00 pm
JennyC

I love you [                                            this much                                                ]

 O0
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: littleguitar on August 09, 2006, 09:21:49 pm
This really has no bearing on anything, but... I just finished rereading the first chapter of Somebody New and I can't wait to reread the whole thing, I'll probably wind up staying up all night to finish it... man am I obsessed  ;D
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: RouxB on August 10, 2006, 12:38:12 am
Welcome to the club Mandy! Somebody New keep me up til 5:30 one morning (more than once  ;) ) I've read it more than once... or twice... or..

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Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: mvansand76 on August 10, 2006, 07:12:44 am
Well, I guess I have to start reading this too then...  ::) Where oh where will I find the time??????
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: mvansand76 on August 11, 2006, 08:29:37 am
Sooooooo I went to bed reaeaeaeaealllly early last night after an especially torturous chiropractic session in the morning and I started reading and.... I really enjoyed it through all the pain that I was experiencing! That's saying something! 

I just hope it doesn't turn out as a soap, seeing that it is over 20 chapters long...
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: littleguitar on August 11, 2006, 09:36:23 am
It doesn't, I didn't think so anyway... I think you'll enjoy it! (I'd say more but, gotta go to work  :-\ )
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: Mikaela on August 11, 2006, 10:55:26 am
**Slight spoilers for first few chapters**


Quote
I just hope it doesn't turn out as a soap, seeing that it is over 20 chapters long...

No it doesn't. It's very, very good throughout, very close to equalling the quality of "If I asked".  It's also interesting to note the difference between Amy's and Jenna's characterization of Jack and Ennis. Amy's boys are 23 years old. Jenna's are close to 40. The two writers do manage to convey that difference in ages just as well as Jake and Heath portrayed it, I think. The younger Jack is much more immediate quicksilver, the younger Ennis slightly more given to demonstrating his "panic" and distress related to his relationship with a man. Older Ennis is better able to hide it although those same feelings are still ruling his life at the outset of the fic and as he works through becoming "somebody new". Their older selves are more considered, more reflected, more deliberate in words and actions - not as jaunty......they demonstrate more life experience in the way they're written, the way they speak, the way they behave.

I think Jenna did an absolutely outstanding job. The scene where Jack quits Ennis and Ennis's subsequent behaviour are so well-written I could just see it happen in front of my eyes. Most subsequent scenes had me on  tenterhooks during the ups and downs of the renewed and developing relationship.  My only gripe about "Somebody New is one OC whose characterization vacillates far too much, IMO, - evidently adapted along the way based on the significant and strong reader feedback Jenna was getting as she was writing.

Jenna's going to write a sequel in a month's time as has been noted here and I'll sure be there.  :)

This one is definitely in my top favourite 3 BBM fics. The other two are Amy's "If I asked" and Jenny's "When the Snow didn't come".
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: mvansand76 on August 11, 2006, 11:08:42 am
This one is definitely in my top favourite 3 BBM fics. The other two are Amy's "If I asked" and Jenny's "When the Snow didn't come".

Yeah, I liked that last one too (it seems like I have read more stories than I can remember ;)), it was different, a very associative way of writing
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: JennyC on August 11, 2006, 12:36:39 pm
JennyC

I love you [                                            this much                                                ]

 O0

Thanks RouxB!  I feel so loved.  ;D
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: JennyC on August 11, 2006, 12:44:00 pm
This one is definitely in my top favourite 3 BBM fics. The other two are Amy's "If I asked" and Jenny's "When the Snow didn't come".

I liked Jenny's "When the snow didn't come".  I will also recommend another one of Jenny's BBM fanfic "Big Boots of Pain", which can be found here http://bbm.supersolenoid.it/Big_Boots_of_Pain/1a.html (http://bbm.supersolenoid.it/Big_Boots_of_Pain/1a.html).  It's one of the earlier BBM fanfics when there weren't as many as we have today.  Big Boots of Pain and Human Interest really helped me dealing with my BBM blue in those earlier days.
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: coffeecat33 on August 15, 2006, 08:27:42 am
I started a couple of fan fics, liked the beginnings but kind of lost interest toward the end. I really liked Somebody New and am glad to know Jenna has more fiction and more to come! I thought Ennis's reaction to being "quit" was very plausible, in fact that's one of the things I liked is that she didn't resort to being melodramic and the story felt plausible. I hesitate to mention my puny one-page scene on LJ but it's under coffeecat33. There is some action behind the scenes that I felt happened and I am putting it on paper. Don't think I have the time, patience, energy & talent to develop a whole story in an AU, but rather want to fill in some gaps. Thanks for the story, Jenna. I really appreciated it and will look for the others.

Now I gotta quit this board & go to work in the "real" world! cc33
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: coffeecat33 on August 15, 2006, 10:31:34 pm
This one is definitely in my top favourite 3 BBM fics. The other two are Amy's "If I asked" and Jenny's "When the Snow didn't come".

I read "If I asked" but I can't find Jenny's "When the Snow didn't come." ???
cc33
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: mvansand76 on August 16, 2006, 04:33:56 pm
Hiya everyone, I will be reading the last chapter of somebody new tonight or tomorrow morning (depends on how sleepy I am once my head makes contact with my pillow). I am so glad I started reading this, the title always stopped me, but this is very well-written and it had me on the edge of my seat several times. There was just one dialogue that I did not find very credible....

SPOILER.....

and that's the one between Gary and Ennis during them moving Jack back into his house, there was something about that dialogue that did not ring true, anybody else have that?
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: Mikaela on August 17, 2006, 05:16:39 am
**spoiler**


Gary was the character I wasn't too pleased about throughout. I thought his characterization was uneven, he came out as too much of a plot device to me, less the real breathing human being. He's a nice guy when that fits the plot, a nasty guy when that fits it, he's moving on easily but with a few sarcasms when he's no longer needed, plot-wise. I think it would have served the story better if he'd been portrayed as a relatively nice guy throughout, a contrast to Ennis in many ways but likable. Ennis still could have been just as filled with jealousy at the thought of him. That J&E have to inflict hurt on others in order for them to be together is nothing new, it's something they have to live with in the original story as it is. I think it would have served Somebody New better if that had been a consistent theme in connection with Gary - that he was genuinely invested in Jack and that we truly got to believe that and feel a little bit bad on his behalf over us wanting him gone from the J&E equation - and feel (more) sorry for him when he had to accept defeat.


That said, there's so much good to enjoy in SN that I don't want to dwell on any little imperfections. Many of the scenes had me biting nails. The tire-changing scene in the rain outside Childress..... OMG! I was at the edge of my seat while reading it. Loved it that the scene didn't play out with a big battle, Ennis saving the day and all, but instead we were left with the ambiguity in Ennis's emotions: Ennis never knowing for sure what would have happened, what he would have, could have done if things had played out more dramatically........that he finds a way to live with the fact that he didn't act the immediate saveing-the-day hero like in his daydreams, that he *almost* couldn't manage to step up to Jack there and be seen as Queer by the world of dangerous homophobes. But at the end of the day he *did* step up.  :)
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: jmstwist on August 17, 2006, 08:45:27 am
I read "If I asked" but I can't find Jenny's "When the Snow didn't come." ???
cc33

Here's the link to Jenny's stories: http://www.squashduck.com/ltd/bbm/fiction_index.htm
"When the Snow didn't come" is listed below "Big Boots of Pain"

Jim
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: coffeecat33 on August 17, 2006, 11:01:18 am
Thank you!
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: mvansand76 on August 17, 2006, 03:14:42 pm
Here's the link to Jenny's stories: http://www.squashduck.com/ltd/bbm/fiction_index.htm
"When the Snow didn't come" is listed below "Big Boots of Pain"

Jim

Hi Jim, how are you doing, are you enjoying Bettermost? I ' saw' you last on the Lead me to your door thread. Are you also impatiently awaiting a new chapter of that? Thanks for that link to Big Boots of Pain. Did you like it?  I think I need to print it and read it.

Re: somebody new... I finished it! I really liked it, I really got caught up in the story. To the people who haven't read it yet, please do!!!! :D
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: jmstwist on August 18, 2006, 01:18:27 pm
Hi Jim, how are you doing, are you enjoying Bettermost? I ' saw' you last on the Lead me to your door thread. Are you also impatiently awaiting a new chapter of that? Thanks for that link to Big Boots of Pain. Did you like it?  I think I need to print it and read it.

Re: somebody new... I finished it! I really liked it, I really got caught up in the story. To the people who haven't read it yet, please do!!!! :D

Hi,
Yes I am enjoying exploring around on Bettermost.  Lead Me to Your Door started fan fic for me after a friend of mine got me involved. She was the same one who brought me to see BBM and subsequently changed my world.
I'm enjoying the story immensly and like you, can't wait for Saturday for the latest.
I also read Somebody New by Jenna and thought it was really good. What a wonderful alternate ending, even though angst ridden but the end result brought a tear to my eye. I also heard Jenna will be updating next month and am looking forward to that.
I'm reading Big Boots of Pain now and also If I Asked and like both of those as well.
There are quite a few really good writers here, I'm glad to see that, and even more glad that a lot of good folks have the same wish as I do, that Jack and Ennis are together and happy.
Thanks for asking,

Jim
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: mvansand76 on August 26, 2006, 07:02:40 am
http://jennasts.livejournal.com/ (http://jennasts.livejournal.com/)

FYI- There is an update on Jenna's journal, the first chapter of her sequel for Somebody New.
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: Brown Eyes on August 28, 2006, 10:02:42 pm
I'm so excited to see that the sequel has begun!  I thought Somebody New was/ is brilliant.  Can't wait for more.
 :)
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: littleguitar on August 29, 2006, 01:02:00 am
I'm so excited to see that the sequel has begun!  I thought Somebody New was/ is brilliant.  Can't wait for more.
 :)

me too! I just read the first chapters, I think the sequel's going to be really interesting, she's set it up nicely, I can't wait to see what she'll do with it!
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: coffeecat33 on August 29, 2006, 10:24:11 am
I can't stand the suspense!!! Hope more is posted SOON! Love the story...
cc33
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: littleguitar on September 14, 2006, 07:44:21 pm
There's a new chapter (in two parts) of Jenna's sequel "Force of Nature" up at brokebackslash!  :D
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: SFEnnisSF on September 15, 2006, 12:39:00 am
I just finished Somebody New, and I LOVED the ending and the epilogue!!!

THANK YOU JENNA!!!  Words cannot describe the emotions I felt reading this story.  THANK YOU.

Eric  :)

PS: Looking forward to the 'sequel'....
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: Brown Eyes on October 02, 2006, 10:54:21 pm
I can't wait for the sequel to be updated!  I feel very silly, because I keep checking... sometimes twice a day to see if there might be an update.  I must learn to be patient.
 :-\
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: Brown Eyes on October 05, 2006, 09:09:55 pm
Yeehaw!!!  Some exciting news posted about a huge new chapter coming on Friday!
 8)

I can't wait.
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: souxi on October 06, 2006, 04:56:16 am
Yeehaw!!!  Some exciting news posted about a huge new chapter coming on Friday!
 8)

I can't wait.

Neither can I lol. I,ve been busy printing it off this am. btw have you ordered SN? I did and it arrived today!! You should see the artwork!! :o :o :o OMG. I,ts incredible it really is. You must get it. I live in the UK and it only took a week, which was very good. Off to read!!. woooweee!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: Mikaela on October 06, 2006, 11:55:15 am
I'm very much looking forward to this one too.  :)

It appears Jenna's got the plot and timeline of this whole sequel blocked out and based on Somebody New I completely trust she has an engaging story to tell with momentum, direction and a point to it, - one that develops the J/E relationship further and makes us love her J&E even more. I'm very curious to see where she takes this, as I don't think the end of SN immediately lent itself to a novel-length sequel, but much rather to little disconnected "short-story" glimpses, separate scenes in their new life.  Of course Jenna will prove how limited my imagination is!

Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: Brown Eyes on October 06, 2006, 07:15:35 pm
Woohoo!  The update was successfully posted today!  Wow, it really does look long.  I'm glad it's the weekend since this will take lots of reading time.

 8)
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: Mikaela on October 06, 2006, 07:24:24 pm
Well, I threw myself at it right away and having just finished the entire chapter I can safely say that this truly was something to look forward to. Great chapter, drawing the reader right in, good build-up and story development, very realistic (no fairy tale being told here!) and getting very intense as the one day/night it covers progresses. Had me at the utmost edge of my seat!

Good to read a chapter from Jack's POV - loved the early part where he's getting introspective about his life and current situation and his relationship with Ennis.

I have to read the whole thing again, and soon.


And now, of course, there are various "What happens now" questions that make me simply yearn for the next chapter.
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: littleguitar on October 07, 2006, 09:59:46 am
Well, I threw myself at it right away and having just finished the entire chapter I can safely say that this truly was something to look forward to. Great chapter, drawing the reader right in, good build-up and story development, very realistic (no fairy tale being told here!) and getting very intense as the one day/night it covers progresses. Had me at the utmost edge of my seat!

Good to read a chapter from Jack's POV - loved the early part where he's getting introspective about his life and current situation and his relationship with Ennis.

I have to read the whole thing again, and soon.


And now, of course, there are various "What happens now" questions that make me simply yearn for the next chapter.

I completley agree with all of this... this chapter was really well done and I really like Jenna's new approach to the story. There were too many good parts in this to pick to comment on!
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: Brown Eyes on October 07, 2006, 11:19:03 pm
Yup, I tend to think this is some of the strongest writing I've seen in fanfic (I mean this sequel and Somebody New).  I like the idea of shifting points of view around... Alma Jr. at the very beginning, Ennis and now Jack.  It keeps things fresh.  It will be hard to wait for the update (as usual).
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: one_of_one on October 09, 2006, 12:41:53 pm
We have a competition going on over on the Somebody New LJ Community - "What's in the Bag?"

Prize for correctly guessing the little extra Jack brought Ennis back from Kansas City :)

Linkee here: http://community.livejournal.com/somebodynew_j4e/21745.html (http://community.livejournal.com/somebodynew_j4e/21745.html)

Guesses are screened, and everyone who guesses correctly will receive a prize from Jenna.  If there are no correct guesses, prize goes to best near guess.

 :)  Helen
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: souxi on October 09, 2006, 01:02:52 pm
Yup, I tend to think this is some of the strongest writing I've seen in fanfic (I mean this sequel and Somebody New).  I like the idea of shifting points of view around... Alma Jr. at the very beginning, Ennis and now Jack.  It keeps things fresh.  It will be hard to wait for the update (as usual).

Yes I completly agree with you there. It,s very similar in style to AP,s writing. IMO it deserves the same recognition, I really honestly think it,s that good. My fanzine of SN arrived a couple of days ago. All I can say is, WOW!! :o :o :o  Jenna does work very hard on her writing, it must really take it out of her. I,ve said on LJ and I,ll say it here...I hope FON is published as a fanzine too when it,s finished. It deserves to be. I think the lady is a legend.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: JennyC on October 09, 2006, 01:27:37 pm
Just to drop a quick note to let you know that I have changed the title of this thread to include the sequel.  I haven't read the newest (67 pages! :o) chapter yet.  Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: one_of_one on October 09, 2006, 02:26:37 pm
Yes I completly agree with you there. It,s very similar in style to AP,s writing. IMO it deserves the same recognition, I really honestly think it,s that good. My fanzine of SN arrived a couple of days ago. All I can say is, WOW!! :o :o :o  Jenna does work very hard on her writing, it must really take it out of her. I,ve said on LJ and I,ll say it here...I hope FON is published as a fanzine too when it,s finished. It deserves to be. I think the lady is a legend.

Yeah, the zine is AWESOME is it not!  God, the artwork!  My god! 

And the continued quality of Jenna's writing, especially since she is belting out a hell of a lot of words in such a short space of time, is like nothing else.

My one disappointment is that there are so few artists (using whatever medium) in the BBM fandom.  I wish there were more.  Jenna would have liked there to be more art in the zine, I know. We must have some talented souls somewhere!  I mean, there are so many writers around...and the quality there is so hig...where are all the peeps with drawing and painting talents hiding?
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: souxi on October 09, 2006, 02:50:32 pm
Yeah, the zine is AWESOME is it not!  God, the artwork!  My god! 

And the continued quality of Jenna's writing, especially since she is belting out a hell of a lot of words in such a short space of time, is like nothing else.

My one disappointment is that there are so few artists (using whatever medium) in the BBM fandom.  I wish there were more.  Jenna would have liked there to be more art in the zine, I know. We must have some talented souls somewhere!  I mean, there are so many writers around...and the quality there is so hig...where are all the peeps with drawing and painting talents hiding?

Yes the artwork is absolutly AWSOME!! :o :o I agree with you, more would have been nice lol. ;) And yes, she is belting out a hell of a lot in such  a short space of time. She is very dedicated, we are lucky to have her. Oh btw  welcome to Bettermost..I see your fairly new. Enjoy your stay. :) :)
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: synne on October 09, 2006, 06:24:56 pm


My one disappointment is that there are so few artists (using whatever medium) in the BBM fandom.  I wish there were more.  Jenna would have liked there to be more art in the zine, I know. We must have some talented souls somewhere!  I mean, there are so many writers around...and the quality there is so hig...where are all the peeps with drawing and painting talents hiding?

-very busy, catching up to read that amount of incredibly written fanfiction. ;)
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: twistedude on October 09, 2006, 06:31:50 pm
Hey, phone sex---ARIGHT!
Title: Re: Somebody New (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair) is complete
Post by: Bigheart on October 10, 2006, 03:31:09 am
Yes the artwork is absolutly AWSOME!! :o :o I agree with you, more would have been nice lol. ;)

Hey Souxi!  ;D

Still haven't received my zine..... :'(
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Bigheart on October 10, 2006, 03:38:15 am
Hey, phone sex---ARIGHT!

OMG - that was so amazingly HOT and so totally unexpected!
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: one_of_one on October 28, 2006, 03:51:33 pm
Here's the first part of Chapter Four:   :)

http://community.livejournal.com/somebodynew_j4e/24044.html?#cutid1


second part:

http://community.livejournal.com/somebodynew_j4e/24095.html


third part:

http://community.livejournal.com/somebodynew_j4e/24391.html
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Brown Eyes on October 29, 2006, 12:14:30 am
YEEHAW!!!

 8)
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Mikaela on November 07, 2006, 05:01:56 am
I'm so looking forward to the next chapter of FoN!
Jenna's Jack and Ennis are so real, so visible, I feel I can just reach my hand out and touch them. The ups-and-downs and give-and-take as these two by now mature men, with their personality quirks and more or less ingrained habits, form their lives around their love together: It's described with realism, care and a warm heart.  :)


**speculation**


I'm worried about that truck Ennis just bought. It seems a fair bet that it's been used in illegal activity (smuggling of ....something?) and that's why it was so important to get it sold at once. I think the story this unpleasant Corliss fellow came up of having used it helping refugees was just a ruse.

If the car becomes involved as evidence in some kind of criminal investigation, if the law starts taking an interest in Ennis as a consequence - even just for a little while till things have been cleared up - that would be such a strain on Ennis, I don't know how he'd get through it. Lots of people knowing who he's living with, perhaps he'd have to give formal statements where that would come up, even..... He's come so far, but that might send him back in full panicked hedgehog mood for a while.

I'm bearing in mind that this section of the fic is termed "earthquake". I'm worried for Ennis and Jack as to what exactly that earthquake will be. But I trust Jenna to bring them through it together, of  course.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Mikaela on November 13, 2006, 04:23:40 pm
I know Jenna said she'd not post predictions as to when the next chapter(s) would be up, since she's had to delay several times in the past. But that means we've got no clue whether a new chapter might be expected soon...

Whether near or still some time off, I'd just like to say I'm reeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaally looking forward to the next chapter of FoN. I hope it'll be here soon! I'm experiencing increasingly severe withdrawal symptoms.  ::)  Looking forward to enjoying more of Jenna's high-quality perceptive writing, and to learning whether Ennis is wrong in his morose predictions about his job security......
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Mikaela on November 17, 2006, 07:27:36 pm
Seems I've got this thread completely to myself, but that isn't going to stop me!

FoN just got updated with a long and thorough chapter called Shootin' True, with lots of plot and character development. To say that I was riveted to my seat and lost to the world while turning pages as fast as I could while reading through it all, would be a monumental understatement. It's just so good - Jenna's simply outdone herself. I don't know where to begin and end with the happy delighted comments, so I'll just let be. But I'll be re-reading this more than once for sure, toes curling with pure fic-reading glee.  :)
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Brown Eyes on November 17, 2006, 10:06:11 pm
Yay!  Thanks for letting us know about the update!  8)
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: louisev on November 27, 2006, 10:45:34 am

Jenna will be deleting and removing her stories from the Somebody New community as well as from LJ this Wednesday.  If you wish to save the stories, you have until Wednesday:

Here is her announcement:

http://community.livejournal.com/somebodynew_j4e/28811.html
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Penthesilea on November 27, 2006, 01:41:09 pm
Jenna will be deleting and removing her stories from the Somebody New community as well as from LJ this Wednesday.  If you wish to save the stories, you have until Wednesday:

Here is her announcement:

http://community.livejournal.com/somebodynew_j4e/28811.html

 :o  ???

Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: mvansand76 on November 27, 2006, 02:42:48 pm
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What she said:  :o ???

I have heard dramatic announcements like this before from authors of fanfiction. What could possibly have happened? I know, we shouldn't speculate but I am just curious, what would make you take down hours and hours worth of writing?
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: littleguitar on November 27, 2006, 03:05:22 pm
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What she said:  :o ???

I have heard dramatic announcements like this before from authors of fanfiction. What could possibly have happened? I know, we shouldn't speculate but I am just curious, what would make you take down hours and hours worth of writing?

I had the same reaction... I don't know what could have happened? And this may be a stupid question but does this mean she won't be continuing with Force of Nature because I might not be able to handle that... I love that fic  :'(

I just saved all of it to a word document.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: mvansand76 on November 27, 2006, 03:13:58 pm
I had the same reaction... I don't know what could have happened? And this may be a stupid question but does this mean she won't be continuing with Force of Nature because I might not be able to handle that... I love that fic  :'(

I just saved all of it to a word document.

What would be a reason for taking everything down you have worked so hard on? I just don't get it! Frankly, it annoys the hell out of me that we don't know what's going on. I know, it's none of my business and I hope it's nothing too serious for Jenna, that would be awful, but still it bugs me.

I haven't finished the last installment of FON and I don't think I will now, I don't want to continue reading something that is not going to be continued. Maybe somebody can volunteer to continue the story? Mandy? Louise? Amy? Anybody?
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: littleguitar on November 27, 2006, 03:39:38 pm
I wish we knew what was going on too... any explaination, even something vague like "real life is getting me down" or something would be better than knowing nothing. I honestly can't even begin to think of what would make someone not only stop writing but erase everything that has already been posted...
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: mvansand76 on November 27, 2006, 03:48:17 pm
It's driving me nuts!! But I know that feeling will only last a few days, I really anticipate that I will have gotten over it by then. This was not one of my favorite ff's and I had no clear idea of where she was going with FON, but I really did like her style of writing. Hopefully she will use her talent for other writing.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: MaineWriter on November 27, 2006, 04:03:07 pm
I did read on another board that someone had spoken to Jenna and her health is fine, everyone in her family is fine, no deaths. etc. So, in that regard, things are good. However, there was no other information about why Jenna had made this decision.

If I learn more, I will post here.

Leslie
Moderator, Fanfiction
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: bailey on November 27, 2006, 04:26:19 pm
I did read on another board that someone had spoken to Jenna and her health is fine, everyone in her family is fine, no deaths. etc. So, in that regard, things are good. However, there was no other information about why Jenna had made this decision.

If I learn more, I will post here.

Leslie
Moderator, Fanfiction

Yes, please do.  A community so well established and so very well beloved vanishing like Atlantis is bound to set up shock waves throughout the fandom.  I'd be very interested to hear the reason behind Jenna pulling her immensely popular fic and its sequel from all public forums.  My first notice was when she wrote to let me know she'd be taking down the chapters from BBM_Phoenix and I was so saddened to think of this classic not being available in our archive.  However, Jenna would not, or could not, give any indication of why.  I'll be checking back for news.

bailey
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: souxi on November 27, 2006, 04:37:32 pm
What would be a reason for taking everything down you have worked so hard on? I just don't get it! Frankly, it annoys the hell out of me that we don't know what's going on. I know, it's none of my business and I hope it's nothing too serious for Jenna, that would be awful, but still it bugs me.

I haven't finished the last installment of FON and I don't think I will now, I don't want to continue reading something that is not going to be continued. Maybe somebody can volunteer to continue the story? Mandy? Louise? Amy? Anybody?


Well that was my reaction too. I mean, whatever it is, if her health etc is ok, which was what I first thought of, then it must be a very personal reason. However, she wasnt even half way through the story. There was so much more to do. I shant bother to save any of it, there seems little point now. Very sad indeed. I,m only glad I bought SN on zine. I wonder if that will still be avaliable to anyone who wants to buy it? What a shame. Jenna is a superb writer as well. Oh well, if you read this Jenna, I wish you well. Ty for giving us SN. I continue to read it from time to time. tc Jenna.xx
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: louisev on November 27, 2006, 04:47:33 pm
I imagine she has a great number of fans and readers wondering and confused, and I am sure that this is difficult for her.  I know of a couple of other instances where authors deleted forum accounts, friended or deleted their LJ's, or left a community in a sudden fashion, and in all of these cases it was a conflict with another individual community member over criticism or the content of one of their stories, which clearly, is not really anyone's business but the parties involved.  However, when a personal conflict with a reader, beta, or other author occurs, it can lead to a lot of speculation and hurt feelings, taking sides, etc, and the only way to avoid that is for one of the parties (or both) to retreat quietly and say nothing about it.  Some remove all of their fics, others provide pdf or doc copies through their readers and circulate them privately.

Depending upon the circumstances, asking questions or speculating about what really happened can lead to compounding the original problem. If Jenna wants to let people know, I am sure she will post something for her fans and readers at some point, and it is probably appropriate to wish her the best and leave it alone.

Louise
FanFic Moderator
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: one_of_one on November 27, 2006, 04:56:35 pm
Just to let you all know...I will be deleting all posts on the Somebody New Community except the novel chapters at 9pm GMT onwards on Wednesday evening.  GMT is 5 hours ahead of Eastern Time and 8 hours ahead of Pacific.  Jenna will then delete her posts that evening (she is in Central Time) and I will be deleting the community as a whole on Thursday morning GMT.

I know we are all devastated at the loss of Jenna's fiction, however there are still some excellent stories, artwork and fanmixes on the community that you may want to have one last look at also before they leave their collective home.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Bigheart on November 27, 2006, 05:12:05 pm
Just to let you all know...I will be deleting all posts on the Somebody New Community except the novel chapters at 9pm GMT onwards on Wednesday evening.  GMT is 5 hours ahead of Eastern Time and 8 hours ahead of Pacific.  Jenna will then delete her posts that evening (she is in Central Time) and I will be deleting the community as a whole on Thursday morning GMT.

I know we are all devastated at the loss of Jenna's fiction, however there are still some excellent stories, artwork and fanmixes on the community that you may want to have one last look at also before they leave their collective home.

Oh God ~ this is all so terribly sad, I keep crying.....all that hard work....that beautiful community....I don't think I'll want to be around when you start deleting H.... :'(  :'(  :'(
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: RouxB on November 27, 2006, 09:16:16 pm
I hate these dramatic announcements!  :(

"Somebody New" saved my sanity-I LOVE that story. I was apprehensive about a sequel but now that I've had a taste of it, I want it all. Jenna isn't a member here I don't think-does anyone know her well enough to invite her to our safe haven? I respect her need to sever her contacts, I just don't like to see it done with her in a painful place. She has given so many of us so much joy, she deserves to go out with the love and appreciation we feel for her.

Damn and damn damn.


 O0
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Brown Eyes on November 27, 2006, 09:26:33 pm
 :'( :'( :'(

Wow!  I'm really sad about this too!  Indeed quite shocking.  I'm glad to hear that as far as people know there are no serious illnesses, etc. involved.  I was worried about her when I first heard the announcement.  This was one of my favorite fanfics too.  Things seemed to be going along smoothly with the sequel too.  Such a shame.
 :-\
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: welliwont on November 28, 2006, 02:20:09 am

what a stinky drag!  I am late to this wake, but man am I bummed!   :-\ :'( :P :(

I was completely captivated by FoN, her last chapter was sooooo great....  I kept checking for the next one, could not wait  to see the new developments between Ennis and his bosses and the family.....  and now this.

damm damn damn!

Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: welliwont on November 28, 2006, 03:00:31 am
ok peeps, here is the info I have gleaned from the font of all knowledge Fanfic, aka Dave Cullen Forum.  The theory is that it is legal BS that is the cause of this catastrophe:

//snip....................................//snip

I had to remove the quote that was here, if you want to read it just go to the Dave Cullen site, here is a link directly to the quote in question:

http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=14995.msg606451#msg606451 (http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=14995.msg606451#msg606451)

(this is the same link as in my following post)







it all makes perfect sense to me.   :'( :'( :'(   and I am glad that it was not in-fighting between BBM slash writers that was the cause of this....  although Jenna is such a nice lady, I can't imagine who would take umbrage at her or her fine story.

Jane
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: welliwont on November 28, 2006, 03:19:40 am

ok, third and final post on this subject.  If you want to find out what's going on about this f'n disaster, you can go to the DC Forum, here is a link to the thread "Slash - Discussion and Recommendations. Part 4"  (you have to be a member, logged on, to access this board):

http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=14995.msg606451#msg606451 (http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=14995.msg606451#msg606451)

I only read the three following pages after that link/post, and it pretty much explains what probably happened.  It also talks about the possibility of seeing the continuation of Force of Nature, eventually, we hope!

J
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: RouxB on November 28, 2006, 04:18:08 am
Anybody know if the fanzine is still available until shut-down time and do you have the link to purchase it.

Fingers crossed...

 O0
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: louisev on November 28, 2006, 08:19:12 am
No, the fanzine has been discontinued.  That was the first thing to be removed, apparently.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: bailey on November 28, 2006, 12:18:09 pm
No, the fanzine has been discontinued.  That was the first thing to be removed, apparently.

Sadly true.  I'm thankful someone thought enough of me to send a copy as a gift when it was first available.  Some said this morning at another forum that the 'zine is now destined to be a part of BBM history because of this seeming ban, and I think that's probably true.  It will become as prized as a copy of the shooting script if it's no longer available.  Some things become even stronger when they're suppressed.  Hope that's the case here.

bailey
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: louisev on November 28, 2006, 12:34:36 pm
Helen posted here that she will be doing some of the deletions on the site as the site manager, and I asked if there was any inkling of what occurred, and she does not know.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: welliwont on November 29, 2006, 12:58:50 am

ok, for those who are still wondering what happened to cause Jenna to take down her stories, the general concensus is that is was legalities that caused this.  Someone or somebody brought Jenna's zine to the attention of the Big Heads, and the lawyers sent out a Cease and Desist order.  All because she printed her first story in a zine.

I have been told I cannot directly quote someone from the other board (Dave Cullen)  so you would be getting first-hand information if you go over there and read the story at its source, rather than my interpretation.

Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Mikaela on November 29, 2006, 03:31:52 am
I come home after some time away to pop into BM for 5 minutes before rushing on, and THIS is what I find?

The prospect of never getting to know what happens in FoN, the prospect of never being able to go back to that Japanese Garden with J&E in SN...... (since I've got not a minute more on the net till after Wednesday evening....)

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


It's like a BBM omen to me. "Time's up. This was it".      :'(
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: souxi on November 29, 2006, 06:25:51 am
I come home after some time away to pop into BM for 5 minutes before rushing on, and THIS is what I find?

The prospect of never getting to know what happens in FoN, the prospect of never being able to go back to that Japanese Garden with J&E in SN...... (since I've got not a minute more on the net till after Wednesday evening....)

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


It's like a BBM omen to me. "Time's up. This was it".      :'(

I know Mikaela, we all feel the same. I,m just so thankfull I got my copy of SN before this happened. I was so enjoying FON as well. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: louisev on November 29, 2006, 06:41:35 am
ok, for those who are still wondering what happened to cause Jenna to take down her stories, the general concensus is that is was legalities that caused this.  Someone or somebody brought Jenna's zine to the attention of the Big Heads, and the lawyers sent out a Cease and Desist order.  All because she printed her first story in a zine.

I have been told I cannot directly quote someone from the other board (Dave Cullen)  so you would be getting first-hand information if you go over there and read the story at its source, rather than my interpretation.



There really is no reason to speculate this.  Jenna is no stranger to the fanzines, and her story is published in the same venues as other stories.  If she were asked to take her story down, she would not be "gagged" from saying so.  It is far more likely, as I mentioned above, that a personal matter that is nobody's business in the fandom, has affected her and she is taking the high road and not dragging it into the community.  As a moderator of Fan Fiction I consider it a gesture of respect to her to not speculate that she is the subject of legal action unless she says so.  If you are registered at Davecullen.com she posted a message there this morning thanking people for their offers of support and assuring them that she needs nothing more from them at this time.  It is only right and fair that her readers take her at her word instead of imagining dire scenarios.  In time, we will either know or not know.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: mvansand76 on November 29, 2006, 07:14:22 am
There really is no reason to speculate this.  Jenna is no stranger to the fanzines, and her story is published in the same venues as other stories.  If she were asked to take her story down, she would not be "gagged" from saying so.  It is far more likely, as I mentioned above, that a personal matter that is nobody's business in the fandom, has affected her and she is taking the high road and not dragging it into the community.  As a moderator of Fan Fiction I consider it a gesture of respect to her to not speculate that she is the subject of legal action unless she says so.  If you are registered at Davecullen.com she posted a message there this morning thanking people for their offers of support and assuring them that she needs nothing more from them at this time.  It is only right and fair that her readers take her at her word instead of imagining dire scenarios.  In time, we will either know or not know.

I agree, but I think it's only human that people start speculating out of frustration of not knowing.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: souxi on November 29, 2006, 08:39:10 am
I agree, but I think it's only human that people start speculating out of frustration of not knowing.

Yes it is. I mean, obviously it is something very personal, and of course Jenna certainly does not have to tell us what is, but, when you have been reading and enjoying a story, such as FON, and it,s barely even half way through, and all of a sudden it,s gone, zine withdrawn etc, people are going to speculate, out of frustration as you rightly said. Whatever it is, I just hope that Jenna is ok, thats the main thing in the end I suppose. I havnt saved any of FON, theres really no point. All very sad, and as you say, for us, frustrating.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: welliwont on November 29, 2006, 11:49:57 am
There really is no reason to speculate this.  Jenna is no stranger to the fanzines, and her story is published in the same venues as other stories.  If she were asked to take her story down, she would not be "gagged" from saying so.  It is far more likely, as I mentioned above, that a personal matter that is nobody's business in the fandom, has affected her and she is taking the high road and not dragging it into the community.  As a moderator of Fan Fiction I consider it a gesture of respect to her to not speculate that she is the subject of legal action unless she says so.  If you are registered at Davecullen.com she posted a message there this morning thanking people for their offers of support and assuring them that she needs nothing more from them at this time.  It is only right and fair that her readers take her at her word instead of imagining dire scenarios.  In time, we will either know or not know.

I highly doubt that it is because of issues between her and another fanfic writer.  Jennasts does not have any enemies in the fanfic community she is well loved.  Over at Dave Cullen there are many many fanfic people who know the lay of the land, and not one of them has suggested it is due to internal strife.  Time will tell on this one, but I do believe the general concensus, that it is for the legal reasons that have already been explained.


Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: louisev on November 29, 2006, 11:56:34 am
I know that at least one fan of "Force of Nature" has made a word document from the existing chapters and is providing it to people via email, and has offered it over at DC.  Perhaps those who want the story can make a request to get a copy of it from the person who compiled the doc file?
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: littleguitar on November 29, 2006, 12:06:10 pm
I have made word docs of both Somebody New and FoN... if anyone wants them, let me know
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: RouxB on November 30, 2006, 01:18:10 am
Pretty sure it's a legal thing. I sent her an email-which she responded to-regarding the availability of the fanzine. It is not available and all references to it where deleted from her community. I hope things get worked out and that she will be able to complete A Force of Nature.

I have both as (messy) Word docs as well-I was up until 3am copying like crazy.


 O0
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: welliwont on November 30, 2006, 01:37:29 am
Pretty sure it's a legal thing. I sent her an email-which she responded to-regarding the availability of the fanzine. It is not available and all references to it where deleted from her community. I hope things get worked out and that she will be able to complete A Force of Nature.

I have both as (messy) Word docs as well-I was up until 3am copying like crazy.


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Hi R!

I am hoping the same thing, that she can get the rest of her story out there somehow some day.  I am optimistically hopeful  :)   I too have saved every word she has written, poor Jenna.   :'(

J
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Mikaela on December 01, 2006, 03:19:09 pm
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I am hoping the same thing, that she can get the rest of her story out there somehow some day.  I am optimistically hopeful 

So am I. I understand that at the moment, Jenna must feel absolutely awful and down, and probably extremely worried if (as seems most likely) there is a threat of litigation too. And so, hardly able to think about how to continue her story or her writing in general. But Jenna has seemed such a levelheaded, considerate, balanced and positive person in all her writing and her dealing with SN/FoN fans.......I'm therefore hoping she'll manage to use those same characteristics in bouncing back where her writing is concerned.

This may seem far out, but I was thinking that it wouldn't take all that much for FoN to reappear as original writing. The majority of characters are OCs, after all. The locations are not the same as in BBM. And the storyline of two gay men trying to build a life together in the face of strong  internalized and societal homophobia is generic enough that it could arguably have been conceived of without BBM.

If she changed the names of the 2 main characters and their immediate family and made some other small changes to their past history and so forth... would her story then be original? Will publishers and film companies turn a blind eye if stories are written "loosely inspired by" their previous work? I'd certainly continue reading FoN if the fic's title was changed and if the main characters reappeared as Tom and Bill.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: initwithu on December 04, 2006, 02:01:50 pm
I, too, would be thrilled to read the continuing story of Tom and Bill - the names matter to me not a whit, but rather the compelling relationship Jenna has written and the fantastically moving interplay between them. I just can not stand to think that I will never know how these two move forward and what happens between them and the original characters she has created.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: retropian on January 30, 2009, 10:38:45 pm
I am rereading "Somebody New" for the 3rd time I think. One of my favorite Fan-fic's because it's so believable. I am finding Little things in it I missed before, like when they go horseback riding and the horses are spooked as they come up to a gully/drainage ditch. Jack says something along the lines of horses having a long memory and they may still be spooked by something that occurred there long ago. So Jack and Ennis dismount and walk the horses through the gully and the remount and continue. Well I never caught that little moment before, it's referencing Earl in the ditch. It's Ennis that spooked by something that happened long ago, but here in the story he has Jack to walk him across to the other side and continue their lives. Dores anyone have the sequel they can send me? Please? I'd love to read it.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Monika on January 31, 2009, 03:28:16 am
yeah this is an amazong story. The first scene that comes to mind when I think back on it is when Ennis and Jack do a bit of role playing, pretending to be strangers in a bar.

In some stories where Jack is trying to move on, I think Jack appears way to fickle but this author manages so nicely to avoid that.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: souxi on January 31, 2009, 04:09:17 am
I am rereading "Somebody New" for the 3rd time I think. One of my favorite Fan-fic's because it's so believable. I am finding Little things in it I missed before, like when they go horseback riding and the horses are spooked as they come up to a gully/drainage ditch. Jack says something along the lines of horses having a long memory and they may still be spooked by something that occurred there long ago. So Jack and Ennis dismount and walk the horses through the gully and the remount and continue. Well I never caught that little moment before, it's referencing Earl in the ditch. It's Ennis that spooked by something that happened long ago, but here in the story he has Jack to walk him across to the other side and continue their lives. Dores anyone have the sequel they can send me? Please? I'd love to read it.

Sadly "Force of Nature" is no longer availiable on her LJ  due to legal reasons. It,s a great shame because Jenna is a fantastic writer and FON was shaping up to be a brilliant story. I wish that somehow she could finish it. I have the zine of SN and still read it from time to time. I don,t have any chapters of FON nature though. She had to take it all down at chapter 5. Great shame. :(
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Brown Eyes on January 31, 2009, 02:37:12 pm
I am rereading "Somebody New" for the 3rd time I think. One of my favorite Fan-fic's because it's so believable. I am finding Little things in it I missed before, like when they go horseback riding and the horses are spooked as they come up to a gully/drainage ditch. Jack says something along the lines of horses having a long memory and they may still be spooked by something that occurred there long ago. So Jack and Ennis dismount and walk the horses through the gully and the remount and continue. Well I never caught that little moment before, it's referencing Earl in the ditch. It's Ennis that spooked by something that happened long ago, but here in the story he has Jack to walk him across to the other side and continue their lives. Dores anyone have the sequel they can send me? Please? I'd love to read it.

This is such a wonderful observation retropian! :)

Yes, I think Somebody New is truly brilliant.  The beginning sections with Ennis going through such intense emotional turmoil are so well written and well considered.  And, I do agree that she has a really subtle and nuanced understanding of Brokeback Mountain... which, seems particularly essential for fanfic to come out well.  I've read Somebody New twice and would gladly read it again at some point.  I always feel that this is the story to show someone who might be skeptical of fanfic in the hopes of persuading them to give fanfic a try, this story really is so strong.

I never saved any of the chapters of Force of Nature either since it was never completed.



Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Mikaela on January 31, 2009, 03:25:18 pm
I agree.

One of the things I remember I liked so well about FoN, was the sensitive and perceptive yet understated way it described the loving close relationship between Ennis and Junior - the slow, tentative moves in the direction of including Jack more directly in their little circle and in their connection over the long miles. Junior had just incidentally stumbled into having her first phone conversation with Jack ("Mr. Twist") when the fic had to break off.

I remember I used to make up my own mini-fics about the continuance of FoN. What was going on with the mysterious car mileage drainage and Jack's dreaful boss? When and how would Jack finally come out to his son and ex-wife? How would Ennis learn what kind of Star Trek fics Betty-Jo really was writing? What new bumps in the road and related opportunities for growth would there be in the J/E relationship? When would Jack and Junior actually meet, and how would the meeting go? Might the girls eventually travel down during some holiday to visit their dad and his partner? Etc Etc. (The "etc" includes: What new sexy makin' love scenes did Jenna have up her sleeve for J&E?)
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: retropian on January 31, 2009, 06:53:18 pm
I'm sorry to hear that Force of Nature is unfinished. I guess, as Annie Proulx says we'll have to finish it ourselves. I'm almost done rereading Somebody New. I'll be sorry it's over. I think her characterizations of J&E, and Junior are especially good.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: retropian on February 01, 2009, 09:42:07 am
Geez, for some reason this story really made me cry this time. I don't remember getting this emotional during my previous readings. I don't know why it's hitting me hard this time. It's just a great story of what might have been. Perhaps I'm mourning for that, and perhaps because I love someone, who's loves someone else, not me. What might have been.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: souxi on February 01, 2009, 11:23:27 am
Geez, for some reason this story really made me cry this time. I don't remember getting this emotional during my previous readings. I don't know why it's hitting me hard this time. It's just a great story of what might have been. Perhaps I'm mourning for that, and perhaps because I love someone, who's loves someone else, not me. What might have been.

Yes I know what you mean. The bit that always brings a lump to my throat is the epilogue especially. I cannot read that without getting a tear in my eye.

It is a fantastic story of what could have been because the way it was written was so beleivable. I loved the scene in the spa when Jack had got his new job at Tulip Feedlots and they were drinking champagne. The bit where he walked in and shouted "honey I,m home"! made me laugh.  :laugh:

What a fantastic writer Jenna is and what a bloody shame she couldn,t finish FON.  :(
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: retropian on February 03, 2009, 02:01:01 am
Yes I know what you mean. The bit that always brings a lump to my throat is the epilogue especially. I cannot read that without getting a tear in my eye.

It is a fantastic story of what could have been because the way it was written was so beleivable. I loved the scene in the spa when Jack had got his new job at Tulip Feedlots and they were drinking champagne. The bit where he walked in and shouted "honey I,m home"! made me laugh.  :laugh:

What a fantastic writer Jenna is and what a bloody shame she couldn,t finish FON.  :(

I like how Ennis's character remains the same even as he stretches himself for Jack. Ennis becomes more self accepting but still remains Ennis. The processes he goes through is believable to me. It's a process many formally closeted gay men have endured and completed, and that a presumably straight woman can write about that is remarkable to me. I also like how the physicality of their sex parallels Ennis's development. I didn't catch this in previous reading, but the sex progresses in step with Ennis's progress. When Ennis accepts and forgives himself in the act of giving himself to Jack, that made me tear up. In an earlier scene, Ennis penetrates Jack, and can see that it hurts Jack,  moved me too, because it's a symbol of how Jack is willing to take the hurt for Ennis. Anything for Ennis. It is something I enjoy about this fan fiction, and others, in that the sex, while hot, is more about the love, and she expresses that really well.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: retropian on February 13, 2009, 04:59:19 am
Hey. I sent a message to Jenna on her live journal account to let her know how much I enjoyed 'Somebody New'. She says hi to everybody at Bettermost. I also asked her tonight how she had planned on ending 'Force of Nature'. I hope she can give a summary of what she planned since she wasn't able to publish the remainder.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Monika on February 15, 2009, 09:27:51 am
Hey. I sent a message to Jenna on her live journal account to let her know how much I enjoyed 'Somebody New'. She says hi to everybody at Bettermost. I also asked her tonight how she had planned on ending 'Force of Nature'. I hope she can give a summary of what she planned since she wasn't able to publish the remainder.
that´s great Retropian!
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Monika on February 24, 2009, 07:27:27 am
Have you seen this?

it pisses me off

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&&item=330310137270&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1120
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: souxi on February 24, 2009, 10:46:25 am
Have you seen this?

it pisses me off

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&&item=330310137270&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1120

OMG!! No I hadn,t seen that!!  :o Now then. As Jenna was ordered to remove her zine from sale, which she did, how come this is allowed? I wonder if AP's legal team know about this?
As for the seller, I can,t beleive they want to sell it! No way in hell am I parting with my copy.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Monika on February 24, 2009, 10:53:14 am
OMG!! No I hadn,t seen that!!  :o Now then. As Jenna was ordered to remove her zine from sale, which she did, how come this is allowed? I wonder if AP's legal team know about this?
As for the seller, I can,t beleive they want to sell it! No way in hell am I parting with my copy.
this is so unnecessary. It really draws unwanted attention to fan fiction and the issue of copyright.




Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: RouxB on February 24, 2009, 08:32:14 pm
I'm buying it-hopefully.
 ;D
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Monika on February 25, 2009, 09:33:15 am
I'm buying it-hopefully.
 ;D

well, even though I don´t think people should make money off of fan fiction, I can´t say I wouldn´t want it too ;)
I hope you win it, R
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: retropian on February 25, 2009, 09:55:31 am
Have you seen this?

it pisses me off

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&&item=330310137270&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1120

I had no idea such a thing existed! And the art work!!! LOL!! :o I bet someone had fun creating that!
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: souxi on February 25, 2009, 09:59:41 am
I had no idea such a thing existed! And the art work!!! LOL!! :o I bet someone had fun creating that!

If you think it,s good on the outside you should see it on the inside!!!! :o :o :o
I can,t understand why anyone would want to sell it. My copy is safely tucked away for me to re read at my leisure.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Monika on February 25, 2009, 10:03:38 am
If you think it,s good on the outside you should see it on the inside!!!! :o :o :o
I can,t understand why anyone would want to sell it. My copy is safely tucked away for me to re read at my leisure.

I would love to have the art work!

Too bad I can´t draw myself, then I would fill my notebooks with graphic images of Jack and Ennis ;)

Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on February 25, 2009, 12:47:44 pm



    Good luck Roux.  I can not imagine anyone having that, and now selling it.  Seems to me they are just trying to
stir up a hornets nest.  I hope that is not the case...
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: RouxB on February 26, 2009, 12:19:06 am
the person who is selling it contacted Jenna first and Jenna was very supportive. the seller is having financial and medical issues and needs $$$. If Jenna was not supportive of it, I would never try to buy it.

Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Mikaela on February 26, 2009, 12:05:14 pm
When that zine was first made available for sale, I *so* much wanted to buy it, but I didn't, as I'd have had to give my credit card details for international shipping and I figured if worst came to worst, not only Jenna but the buyers of the thing could have copyright lawyers on their neck. I was not surprised but very sad when the copyright holders actually did take action some little time later.  :-\

But I would have loved to own that zine and I would have loved the opportunity to just leaf through it. So good luck to anyone trying to get hold of it, as long as Jenna herself thinks there is no problem with it.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: retropian on March 01, 2009, 04:06:53 am
If you think it,s good on the outside you should see it on the inside!!!! :o :o :o
I can,t understand why anyone would want to sell it. My copy is safely tucked away for me to re read at my leisure.

I'd love to see the inside. Maybe one day I'll be able to get a copy for myself. I'm watching the auction just to see how much it sells for. I love the story. It strikes me a very realistic. I've had a taste of the emotions she describes. There is a scene in the story, the 1st Sunday when Jack visits Ennis in his apartment. In the bedroom Ennis is so overcome at one point he's trembling uncontrollably. That scene gets me because I've been there.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: retropian on March 08, 2009, 04:27:01 am
Jenna was nice enough to reply to my querie about the possible continuation of Force of Nature. Unfortunately while she had planned a novel length story she decided to use many of her ideas in other works. So no more than the 1st 5 chapters. She did say that she see's Jack and Ennis as moving from that house, but remaining in northern NM. They're now aged 65 and still together.  :)
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: retropian on July 26, 2009, 12:22:34 pm
Hello all. I'm between fanfics right now and am looking for another good one. I know Jenna couldn't officially continue Force of Nature, but from what I've gathered the story of Jack and Ennis continues undercover with new names to mask their identities. Can anyone clue me in as to which story's of hers these are?

Thanks, Ian
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: wayne1932 on July 27, 2009, 10:50:06 am
Jenna is publishing stories on Dreamspinner Press.   Some very good ones according to the reviews.
Title: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: conni_h on January 24, 2010, 07:09:00 am
Hi,

you posted a long time back, that you got copies of "Somebody New" and "Force of Nature".
I saved them back in time too, but my computer broke down and I lost my copies.
I love these stories and reread it often.

Could you send me a copy.

E-Mail: [email protected]

Sorry for my English.

Conni
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: lo731 on February 12, 2010, 08:28:03 am
Like Conni, I am desperate to read this fic! If anyone is willing and able, please email it to me at [email protected]

I will be forever grateful!
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: sjmarv on August 07, 2010, 07:19:46 am
Hi, I'm new to BBM fanfic and so many posts remark one these stories, but they have been purged from LiveJournal. Do you know how I can get a copy?
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Monika on August 07, 2010, 07:29:18 am
Hi, I'm new to BBM fanfic and so many posts remark one these stories, but they have been purged from LiveJournal. Do you know how I can get a copy?
send me your email and I´ll send you a copy
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: sjmarv on August 07, 2010, 10:55:46 am
Thanks, Buffymom!

[email protected]
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: sjmarv on August 10, 2010, 01:13:09 pm
Anyone have a copy of "Force of Nature"?
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: souxi on August 10, 2010, 01:33:41 pm
Sadly Jenna had to abandon *Force of Nature* after only 5 chapters due to legal reasons. >:(
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: wildeyedangel on September 13, 2010, 08:19:33 am
send me your email and I´ll send you a copy

Hi :) do you mind sending me a copy of 'something new' please? I'd love to read it!

xxx
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Monika on September 13, 2010, 08:21:49 am
Hi :) do you mind sending me a copy of 'something new' please? I'd love to read it!

xxx
sure, just post your email here or pm it to me and I´ll send it to you
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: wildeyedangel on September 13, 2010, 08:38:23 am
sure, just post your email here or pm it to me and I´ll send it to you

Thanks :) it's [email protected]
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: wildeyedangel on September 13, 2010, 08:52:33 am
Thanks :) it's [email protected]

And if that doesn't work then [email protected] should - my yahoo email is tempremental!
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Monika on September 13, 2010, 09:22:37 am
And if that doesn't work then [email protected] should - my yahoo email is tempremental!
I think the first adress worked. Enjoy! :)
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: August7th on September 13, 2010, 10:29:38 am
Sadly Jenna had to abandon *Force of Nature* after only 5 chapters due to legal reasons. >:(

Anybody have those 5 chapters that they're willing to share? I love "Somebody New" so much, I'd still like to read the unfinished sequel.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Monika on September 13, 2010, 10:34:43 am
Anybody have those 5 chapters that they're willing to share? I love "Somebody New" so much, I'd still like to read the unfinished sequel.
just let me know where Í should send it and I´d be happy to share.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: wildeyedangel on September 13, 2010, 01:03:59 pm
Thanks for sending it me :) it's odd about the legal reasons, you don't hear that often - shame too!
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: sinnej on September 28, 2010, 12:12:14 am
I, too, would like a copy of SN and it's sequel, pretty please.  Many thanks!

Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: leafy365 on October 09, 2010, 12:45:37 am
Can I also get a copy of "Somebody New" and the sequel?  I've been looking for it for such a long time!  My email is: [email protected]  Thanks so much!
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: evisa on October 10, 2010, 10:04:48 am
I will be grateful for sending me "Somebody  New" and sequel.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: sinnej on October 17, 2010, 08:19:32 pm
I will be grateful for sending me "Somebody  New" and sequel.


I have been checking back but have had no luck so far.  If you should get a response, please send it to me and I will do the same for you guys if I get a response.

Thanks.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Monika on October 19, 2010, 12:20:45 am
I think I´ve now sent it to those who have posted their email addresses here
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Muffin on October 26, 2010, 03:06:22 pm
I´d like to get a copy of "Somebody New" and sequel as well, Thank you!  :)

[email protected]
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Lomoroto on October 26, 2010, 07:51:09 pm
I would appreciate having copies, also.  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: dreamer on October 27, 2010, 07:55:18 am
So would i, please and thanks  :)
[email protected]
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Monika on October 27, 2010, 08:00:52 am
fun to see that so many are reading!
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: endeni on November 26, 2010, 06:01:57 pm
Hi, there. May I ask for a copy of "Somebody New" and "Force of Nature" too?
My e-mail address: endeniem @ libero.it
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: kelseypod on November 29, 2010, 06:44:29 am
Lost my thumb drive!  :( Could someone please PM me a replacement copy of both stories via megaupload? :)
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Monika on December 02, 2010, 11:49:16 am
I can´t do Megaupload, but if someone still wants them I can mail them to you. Send me pm.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: aianto150681 on December 20, 2010, 01:43:39 am
Hello :) I would like to get a copy of "Somebody New" and "Force of Nature". Send me it too, please :)
My e-mail address: [email protected]
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: souxi on December 20, 2010, 02:57:59 am
Force of Nature was never finished. Jenna only wrote 5 chapters before she had to remove it for legal reasons. However she did finish Somebody New and I have a printed bound copy if you'd like it. pm me your address and I'll post it to you. Be aware though that it may take some time as the festive season is always busy.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: cooperh05 on January 05, 2011, 07:26:04 am
please could you send me
'somebody new' &
'force of nature'

thanks h.
[email protected]
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: souxi on January 08, 2011, 11:59:51 am
I've already said, Jenna couldn't finish Force of Nature. She had to remove it from LJ for legal reasons. I do have a printed copy of Somebody New. I can mail it to you if you pm your address. I live in the UK so it may take a while.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: mihmo on April 20, 2011, 01:06:03 pm
Hi!
Would anybody still be willing to share the story with me in its electronic version? if it's allowed that is...heard so many wonderful reviews about this story and I'd love to read it :) Thanks!

[email protected]
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Monika on April 20, 2011, 01:32:49 pm
Hi!
Would anybody still be willing to share the story with me in its electronic version? if it's allowed that is...heard so many wonderful reviews about this story and I'd love to read it :) Thanks!

[email protected]

sent:)
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: mihmo on April 20, 2011, 01:38:00 pm
Thank you so much! ;D Haven't gotten it yet though but I guess it just takes a while? :-\
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Monika on April 21, 2011, 04:23:51 am
Thank you so much! ;D Haven't gotten it yet though but I guess it just takes a while? :-\

You got it? I sent it twice, just in case.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on April 23, 2011, 04:05:37 pm


     I would love an electronic version also.  I read it when it was written, but I didn't save it.  I would really like to read it again.  Please and thanks so much.  Janice
[email protected] 
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on April 25, 2011, 03:16:36 pm



         Thanks darlin'
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: souxi on April 28, 2011, 12:42:37 pm
The offer is still there if anyone wants the printed version. I don't want any money for it btw. I am in the UK as I said so it may take a while. I've read it loads of times and I really don't need to read it again.  :)
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Jeff Benson on April 30, 2011, 07:02:10 am
I, too, would be thrilled to read the continuing story of Tom and Bill -
the names matter to me not a whit, but rather the compelling relationship
Jenna has written and the fantastically moving interplay between them.
I just can not stand to think that I will never know how these two move
forward and what happens between them and the original characters she
has created.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: rubyblue on May 25, 2011, 09:12:44 am
Hi Eveyone,

I've been searching for a copy of Jenna's Somebody New, it sounds great! If anyone wouldn't mind emailing me a copy i would be most grateful.

Sarah.
xx
[email protected]
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: scarface133 on June 08, 2011, 11:25:56 am
Hi,

I'm looking for a print version, if anyone has one they wouldn't mind getting rid of :)

[email protected]
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: thinwhiteduke74 on June 27, 2011, 08:59:59 pm
New to the forum but haven't read Jenna's "Something New" since 2006. I would appreciate a link or PDF copy of it and the remnants of "Force of Nature" if possible.

Thanks!
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Monika on June 28, 2011, 04:36:54 am
I´d be happy to, just let me know where I shall send it
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: thinwhiteduke74 on June 29, 2011, 09:05:07 pm
[email protected]

Thanks so much!
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: seasonoflove on August 02, 2011, 06:15:59 am
Finally!


Dear Moderator  Erase Hate: Would you please send both Somebody New and Force of Nature to me?

 My email address:   [email protected]

Thank you so much!
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Tracionn on August 12, 2011, 10:59:37 am
Heya!

I know I only joined the forum and I feel bad about asking already for something but apparently, I'm doing it anyway....*sigh*

I just read Somebody New but I do not have a file with the story, just had a printed version. And I of course would love to
read Forces Of Nature (Earthquake). So should anyone maybe have those files and should that someone not be bothered too much -  I'd be very very happy!

Thanx so much,

Tracionn

(tracionn at yahoo dot com )
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: souxi on August 12, 2011, 01:44:34 pm
Forces of Nature was never finished. Jenna had to sadly remove it for legal reasons which was a great shame. I did have a printed version of Somebody New, but I've just sent it to one very happy person in Denmark who requested a copy. I think she's *surprised* by the art work. :laugh:
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Sason on August 12, 2011, 02:28:14 pm
Forces of Nature was never finished. Jenna had to sadly remove it for legal reasons which was a great shame. I did have a printed version of Somebody New, but I've just sent it to one very happy person in Denmark who requested a copy. I think she's *surprised* by the art work. :laugh:

Oh, a Danish brokie?

What's her screen name?

Depending on where in Denmark she lives, we may be very close to each other.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Tracionn on August 12, 2011, 04:14:02 pm
Thnx, Souxi!

I know already that FoN should have three parts but heard that the first part was written already. Never mind, there's so much else to read out there and
some day I might be able to catch up with Jenna's sequels.
Loved Somebody New.

Tracionn
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: scarface133 on August 17, 2011, 03:36:14 pm
Oh, a Danish brokie?

What's her screen name?

Depending on where in Denmark she lives, we may be very close to each other.

I'm in Copenhagen - Østerbro :)
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Sason on August 17, 2011, 04:13:00 pm
I'm in Copenhagen - Østerbro :)

No kidding -- I'm right across Öresund!!!   ;D
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: rb2910 on September 28, 2011, 04:13:45 pm
Does anyone here know how/where to find a digital copy? I would love to read it....
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: kitty on September 28, 2011, 04:36:18 pm
Does anyone here know how/where to find a digital copy? I would love to read it....

I have got it but it's divided into chapters. If that's alright PM me your email address :-*
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: rb2910 on September 29, 2011, 10:59:27 am
I have got it but it's divided into chapters. If that's alright PM me your email address :-*


That's fine, thanks! I'll do that.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: leafy365 on November 13, 2011, 07:16:02 pm
Is anybody willing and able to send me a copy of Somebody New and Force of Nature? I sadly lost my copy and have been frantically searching for another to no luck. My email is [email protected] Thanks!!!!
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: kitty on November 13, 2011, 08:53:08 pm
Is anybody willing and able to send me a copy of Somebody New and Force of Nature? I sadly lost my copy and have been frantically searching for another to no luck. My email is [email protected] Thanks!!!!

Done :-*
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: mas88 on April 16, 2012, 01:47:13 pm
Just wondering if someone is able to send me a digital copy of somebody new and forces of nature. I've been reading everyones comments and they sound like great stories and I would greatly appreciate a copy of the stories. My email address is [email protected]
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: alanared on May 03, 2012, 10:50:37 pm
Could I also get a copy of "Somebody New" and "Force of Nature"- I've been looking for a copy for a while! Any help would be greatly appreciated. [email protected]

THANK YOU
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: souxi on May 04, 2012, 04:39:27 am
Force of Nature was never finished. Jenna only did about 5 chapters I think before she was forced to remove it for legal reasons which was a great shame. The same with Somebody New. It's not on LJ any more. I did have a printed copy but I gave it away. Maybe someone else has got a copy stored on their pc you could have.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on May 04, 2012, 05:34:51 am


     That is when I got tired of Annie's legal team telling her she had to elimate the finished story.. I understood that they didn't want her
to do the comicfic, but they never made any money off the ones online.  I think that was very silly and paranoid of them.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: louisev on May 04, 2012, 09:18:49 am
if it wasn't for the fact that I had my own original story and original character in mind from the beginning, rewriting the Laramie Saga into the original stories they were would not have been possible after NBC's lawyer sent me their cease and desist letter.  The fact that it is a Moving On! story is what saved it in the long run.  But it took nearly a week to get all of the content off the internet in compliance with the order.

And hey, hi! Souxi, haven't seen you in a dog's age!  I'm finishing up #26 in the series now! I write slower nowadays :)
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: kitty on May 04, 2012, 03:36:36 pm
With regards to her having to remove the stories for legal reasons...how did that happen? How did they find out and how can we protect ourselves?
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Monika on May 04, 2012, 03:41:07 pm
Kitty, I wouldn´t worry if I were you. Thousands of Brokeback Mountain fan fics have been written without anyone taking notice. The few (a couple?)stories that were targeted were high-profile pieces that were written early on in the fandom.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: kitty on May 04, 2012, 03:43:38 pm
Well, that's something. My stories are well-received over on LJ but they're not high-profile. I guess that's not such a bad thing after all!

Is that why Beans and Crazies is no longer on there? I got a Word document from a friend who was around in the early days and they said it was taken off LJ :-\   
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: kitty on May 04, 2012, 03:50:54 pm
Um...I just saw the front cover fanart for the printed version...

 :o :o :o
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Sason on January 02, 2013, 06:34:41 pm
Here's a real treat for lovers of Somebody New!

Jenna made a brief appearance in the slash thread over on DCF yesterday.

She posted a link to her LJ, and a new one shot in the SN universe.

It's called Joy in the World.

I haven't read it yet, and I don't read slash any more, but this one is a must!

http://jenna-hilary.livejournal.com/23246.html
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: pattypoll on January 14, 2013, 01:52:10 pm
Could somebody, pleasepleaseplease, send me the PDF version of the Somebody New?

I am really new to BBM-fanfiction and haven't yet found a fic for my taste :/ I'm CRAVING for a good story!

edit: Whoops, hahah here's my e-mail: [email protected]
 
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Sason on March 29, 2013, 12:48:22 pm
Jenna has started to post Force of Nature again!!

It's now part one of three novel-long fics that she intends to post chapter by chapter.

Read her post from 27 March where she explains it all.

http://jenna-hilary.livejournal.com/
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: souxi on March 30, 2013, 03:11:01 am
OMG!!! I can't believe it!! :o After all this time!!! I'm off to read it now!! Yayyyyyyyyyy.  :)
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Sason on March 30, 2013, 01:25:07 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: CellarDweller on April 04, 2013, 08:04:18 am
I was quite surprised to see her reappear, but we're glad she's back!   ;D
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: cwby30 on April 29, 2013, 12:56:17 pm
Mornin', all.

Well, Jenna has posted Chapter 12 of the first book in Force of Nature.  It's here on LJ.  http://jenna-hilary.livejournal.com/32275.html (http://jenna-hilary.livejournal.com/32275.html), and it's here in her Archive. http://archiveofourown.org/works/752119/chapters/1463099 (http://archiveofourown.org/works/752119/chapters/1463099)

Thanks again, Jenna!

Bud
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: kelseypod on January 01, 2014, 08:51:06 pm
Thanks for that update, Bud! I am excited to see she is still posting. As I have been absent the fandom for a long time, can someone tell me if Somebody New was ever reposted anywhere? If not, would someone be so kind as to email me a copy at [email protected] ? Please  ;D
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: gert on March 24, 2014, 03:54:32 pm
Hi!  I am a new member here and fairly new to BBM.  I just discovered Force of Nature on AO3.  I love it.  I would love to read Somebody New.  I know it's been removed but if anybody could send it to me I would be very grateful.  E-mail is   [email protected]

Thanks,  off to discover the rest of this great site.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Sason on March 24, 2014, 05:07:10 pm
Hi Gert and welcome to BetterMost!

Want a cup of coffee don't ya? Piece a cherry cake?    ;)

Feel free to discover our forum and post in any thread you like!

I'm sure someone will be able to send you Somebody New.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: JPrice on August 24, 2014, 08:06:01 pm
Somebody please send a copy of Somebody New to me at [email protected]
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: webdirt on August 30, 2014, 03:21:00 pm
Does anyone know where I can find "Somebody New?"
I'm new to BBM fanfic and came across Jenna Hilary's FON stories only to discover that they are a sequel. I can't seem to find Somebody New anywhere because of copy write reasons. IF anyone would be so kind as to send me a copy via email or perhaps a working link from the deep deep web, that would be much appreciated!
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: milomorris on August 30, 2014, 03:55:32 pm
Does anyone know where I can find "Somebody New?"
I'm new to BBM fanfic and came across Jenna Hilary's FON stories only to discover that they are a sequel. I can't seem to find Somebody New anywhere because of copy write reasons. IF anyone would be so kind as to send me a copy via email or perhaps a working link from the deep deep web, that would be much appreciated!

Somebody please send a copy of Somebody New to me at [email protected]

I'm pretty sure I have all of it. I just zipped the files. PM me and I'll e-mail it to both of you if you're still looking.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: SaraB on August 31, 2014, 12:23:33 pm
Just looking in here to say I really love Jenna's "Admit One". Not Brokeback, though the main characters almost could be (in fact I wonder if they were originally conceived as such). It's a book I've read many times - some angst but ultimately healing and comforting. A deeply convincing  portrayal of love ( and plenty of sex too, almost too much, indeed!).

Perhaps it's been discussed before?
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Sason on August 31, 2014, 12:32:59 pm
Hi Sara!

I haven't read it. Back in the day when I read all the BBM slash I could get my hands on  ;D, I don't think it was out there.

Now, I'm not so interested anymore.

Maybe someone else has read it?
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: plaguerat on November 13, 2014, 06:25:51 pm
i've been wanting to read these fanfics for years but wasn't able to find them  :o

If someone could send them to me I would be ever so grateful!       [email protected]
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: BBM_victim on July 07, 2017, 04:02:41 am
Shiiiieeet.

"Somebody new" was an incredible story. I don't have the slightest idea how many exclamation marks or smilies to put or how to write a justified feedback for this story. So many feelings steered up, couldn't hardly breath while reading. Incredibly realistic, rich and psychologically deep, carefully drawn out characters, conversations, situations. Loved the break-up scene, LOVED Ennis' subsequent hell (just wonderful!!!), loved his further struggles and growth (forgiving himself at the end - wow, just wow!), loved the fact that Jack's manly pride was highly respected, that he was not portrayed as some sissy, bitchy, hysterical and demanding femal-ish something. The way Jack was hurt, sad and frightened, but still could not help himself as to continue to love, want, trust and care for Ennis was extremely balanced and well-written. The longings, the tensions..... oh-my-goodness... And the writing itself - very emotional, suffused with love, very funny where it needed to be.

Actually, i have not enjoyed happy endings for BBM so far ("Human Interest" was fine up to a certain point only), but the way "Somebody new" was written - i buy it absolutely.

I don't know what else to say... This was by far-far-far the best story for BBM so far (of course, i probably have not read much yet...). Some people mentioned "If I asked" here, but i think there is no comparison... "Somebody new" is much more realistic in my opinion. This story should be put in some kind of museum for BBM, framed and sealed, to be touched with white gloves only. I have no idea what kind of imagination and life experience or wit a person must have to be able to produce this kind of a story. Or how much research and work one have to put into this. I certainly would not be able to do so... It definitely does not deserve it to be deleted!
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Sason on July 07, 2017, 01:31:14 pm


This story should be put in some kind of museum for BBM, framed and sealed, to be touched with white gloves only.


 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Glad you liked it. I loved it too, although for me, Human Interest was the one I considered The Best.

I found it when I was desperate, and read it straight through non stop for several days with hardly any sleep or food.

It saved - if not my life, then at least my sanity.  :laugh:
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: BBM_victim on July 10, 2017, 01:39:39 am
Hey, Sonja!

I liked Human Interest up to Jack's trip to Mexico. I loved Ennis' reaction to what happened there and thought his musing about how to fight for Jack was still alright. But then the story went somehow in a lot of coming out for Ennis, the end being a sort of wedding party and dancing with Jack (though not openly), and it just did not convince me. I just think that Ennis will never be able to "come out" and - besides - i don't think he has even a need for that. Neither does Jack in my opinion. The reason why Ennis does not want anybody to know about him and Jack is fear and shame. He can overcome / deal with the latter, but the former will always be an issue and i don't mean he will always be paranoid, but i think he is just being realistic where the times and places are concerned.

I also had a problem with Ennis' dialogue in HI. Although MadLori did explain that her Ennis is more talkative since he has been living with Jack for 7 years now, i feel that a part of his character - and charm! - is lost that way.

Apart from that, HI pictures J&E as being extremely rich and very successful with their ranch. As much as i would wish this for them, i do think this is not realistic. A lot of fanfics are build on the premise that Jack will get a bunch of money from Newsomes, but in my opinion this is wishful thinking, too. A lot of us want that sweet life for J&E, but I think the reality of their living together would not be as rosy as it is often pictured. I would enjoy a story more if there are more struggles there. For example, i thought the story "A various language" by Destina did a better job there, which is being closer to my pictured reality ;). I do think they would need to work long hours, maybe multiple jobs, be constantly busted in addition to facing discrimination. It will definitely not be easy for them...

Sorry, this should not be some general discussion about fanfics i've read so far, but i saw there is no thread where i could put this...

I just wanted to say about "Somebody New" that although it is a happy ever after story with that sweet life for them, the process of getting there is thoroughly worked out. HI starts up with J&E being 7 years together already, so the whole process of how they actually come to that is mostly missing (apart from some flashbacks). Therefore, less convincing. In "Somebody New" Ennis had two major ground-breaking experiences (Jack's breaking up and Ennis' subsequent delirium) which provide the groundwork for that sweet life and champagne at the end. And even then Ennis is still not interested to live in the open, and Jack understands it - which is more realistic in my mind.

What i liked about "Somebody New" is that the whole story is very consistent. These are hundreds of pages, written in chunks over several months, but it is mostly devoted to Ennis' growth and this growth is distributed nicely over the whole story. I have no idea how Jenna accomplished that (well, i have no idea of writing stories, that's probably why). But there are little details which show that gradual development. Like Ennis mostly not calling Jack's name (only in his mind at the beginning), but it changes at the end. Same goes for Ennis' thoughts which he mostly keeps to himself at the beginning, but spells them out to Jack more and more. Or those little moments of Jack which Ennis puts away in his memories at the beginning, but is not doing this at the end anymore. Sure, there are also more apparent things like saying "i love you", talk about sex out loud or eventually moving in. But for all of this there are always pages over pages of Ennis' thoughts and feelings which lead the way towards every little milestone in his growth. So, the whole process was quite satisfying and believable for me.
And with regards to that shame issue, "Somebody New" shows how Ennis is actually proud of Jack on several occasions. I think he is never ashamed of Jack in this story. Actually i now start on thinking whether he ever was ashamed of Jack in the original story, too.... But that would be OT now.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: CellarDweller on July 16, 2017, 06:33:38 pm
This story should be put in some kind of museum for BBM, framed and sealed, to be touched with white gloves only.

I know a number of people who agree with this!
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: CellarDweller on July 16, 2017, 06:34:33 pm
It saved - if not my life, then at least my sanity.  :laugh:


I would say, "Your life".....as for your sanity, you can't save what doesn't exist.

*runs from Sonja*
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Sason on July 17, 2017, 05:52:14 pm
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Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Sason on July 17, 2017, 06:03:54 pm
BBM-victim, I like your comparison between HI and SN. It's so many years since I read them now, that I can't really partake in a discussion about them.

It's true though, that they're very successful in HI, in a materialistic way. But they still struggle with the consequenses of Ennis' internal homophobia to a great deal.

There are rougher fics out there, I'm thinking especially of one where they stay together after the mountain and get a job at a farm. I'm afraid I can't remember what it's called, though.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Wojtek on December 15, 2017, 05:47:48 pm
Hi everyone,
Still quite not sure how everything works in here, but I'm more excited at the moment about getting into Bettermost than I was when I signed up on Facebook many years ago haha, so that's clearly a good sign.
Been here for a couple weeks already, though only skimming through some major topics, gathering up the courage to write something down myself, and I must say, you guys all seem to be a very friendly and loquacious unique bunch, and I'm absolutely in awe. Considering the fact that I was whopping six years old at the time when the masterpiece was released, I deeply regret I couldn't join you back in 2005/2006.
I'm unequivocally affected by the story (and by story I mean the film and the short story likewise) and there's lots of things I'd like to call into question, not just yet though, I need more time to amply verbalize my feelings, which are an untidy bunch, I've got to come up with fair phrasing for the questions I wish to raise, although you've arguably resolved a myriad of them since Bettermost came into existence.
I'm awful sorry for such a long digression at the beginning, but I didn't want to bother you with a separate post created with the sole purpose of me introducing myself ;)). Does any of you still have a copy of this "Somebody New" fanfic you were referring to? I certainly won't ever get tired of re-watching the film, listening to or reading the short story, but I'm riveted to find that the majority of you liked it, and sadly all the links provided above are inactive.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 15, 2017, 10:43:59 pm
Welcome, Wojtek! You'll have a cup o'coffee, won't you? Piece a cherry cake?

Sorry, I don't have any fan fiction but hopefully one of us will have what you're seeking. I have heard people talk about "Somebody New" before.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Sason on December 16, 2017, 02:50:33 pm
Hi Wojtek and welcome to BetterMost.

I don't read fanfic anymore and no longer have the stories saved, but I now others have.

Maybe Monika can help you. Scroll back a few pages and you'll find her posting.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Wojtek on December 16, 2017, 04:06:56 pm
Yes ma'am, I'll have a cup of coffee, but I can't eat no cake just now... I've had too much of it already today, would have to go over my limit (as though I had one haha).

As for Monika, she seems to have been last active in August, but as I said, it's nothing urgent. Thanks for your reply, have a good day! (or night in my instance.)
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: morrobay on December 16, 2017, 08:21:15 pm
Hi Wojtek, I don't have Force of Nature, but I dug around and found Somebody New.  Let me know your email address and I'll send it on.
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Astrid on January 31, 2018, 08:08:05 pm
Hi morrobay,

I am new to this BBM Forum that I found when looking for Jennas Story "Somebody New". I just recently discovered the BBM fanfiction and Jennas fantastic FON series has me completely hooked. Now I am desperately hoping to get my hands on a copy of the prequel "Somebody New".

In your post to Wojtek you mention that you have got a copy of that Story as PDF. I would be eternally grateful if you could email it to me, too. My email adress is   [email protected]

Thank you so much.
Astrid
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: newmoon21 on November 07, 2018, 06:49:04 pm
I have been looking for Somebody New by Jenna Hilary Sinclair for awhile but I can't find it anywhere. I am wondering if someone can email it to me? 
Title: Re: "Somebody New" and Sequel "Force of Nature" (by Jenna Hilary Sinclair)
Post by: Gazapete on November 08, 2018, 02:14:28 am
I can send it to you if you give me an email.