BetterMost, Wyoming & Brokeback Mountain Forum
Brokeback Mountain: Our Community's Common Bond => Brokeback Mountain Open Forum => Topic started by: Phillip Dampier on February 12, 2006, 09:51:19 pm
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As we await our listing in Google (the site is exactly one day old as of writing this), I've been trying to promote this site through unobtrusive posts about it (and signature lines on the bottom of messages). So how did you find out about this site?
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Saw your post on Imdb. Sounded like a good idea.
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I think a happy medium might be found if we launched a forum specifically to address coming out/sexuality issues. My straight friends have been feeling a lot of impact from the movie as well, and it's remarkable how similar the messages of lost opportunity and enigmatic sig others have hit these people, so I don't want to cut them out. On the sexuality issue, it's a lot harder for people to relate unless they are living it themselves, so I can see your point.
I agree a safe troll-free place to deal with sexuality issues is a great idea. I can configure a forum for it, and could even make it a forum available only on request or even private if need be. What do you think?
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This is more about the suggestion to have the site be gay only...I'd suggest that there be a forum devoted specifically to the LGBT community, or maybe one for each part of the community! but I really feel that the movie has impacted people from all facets of life, not just gay, and that it's important for those people to be able to use this great new site to come and share what they are going through. Even though the movie is a gay love story/tragedy, and that is really one of the most important, if not the most important thing about it, it is speaking to many people who aren't gay and who still need a safe site like this to sort out 'what next' and 'who am i,' etc.
There are a lot of people out there both gay and straight who see big parts of themselves in Jack and/or Ennis. I am one of them. The fact that I am bisexual but often let myself be visible as straight is only part of how I relate to Ennis. Basically I just want this site to be a friendly site for those who need it, whoever they are.
One other little note: I saw the link on Imdb, and went for it. I noticed you only cited 11,000 individual postings to the BBM board on imdb, but it's waaaay over that--it's more like 150,000 now. Check it and see.
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This is more about the suggestion to have the site be gay only...I'd suggest that there be a forum devoted specifically to the LGBT community, or maybe one for each part of the community! but I really feel that the movie has impacted people from all facets of life, not just gay, and that it's important for those people to be able to use this great new site to come and share what they are going through. Even though the movie is a gay love story/tragedy, and that is really one of the most important, if not the most important thing about it, it is speaking to many people who aren't gay and who still need a safe site like this to sort out 'what next' and 'who am i,' etc.
These are all great points. For the benefit of members who have actually registered for the forums, you'll find Coming to Terms, a new forum devoted specifically to sexual orientation issues.
One other little note: I saw the link on Imdb, and went for it. I noticed you only cited 11,000 individual postings to the BBM board on imdb, but it's waaaay over that--it's more like 150,000 now. Check it and see.
Heh... I'll definitely update my information. I think I grabbed the figure from a message someone posted there, but that could have been back around the turn of the new year. It's incredible to see the response over there, even if the sheer number of messages and the irritating forum software they use made it literally overwhelming.
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I read a reference to this site on IMDb this morning. I tried Googling for the addy but got the chinese medical site. I PM'd the OP on IMDB who has yet to respond. Oh well.
Then I saw this site actually linked on IMDb. ( the .net fooled me, I was looking for the .com URL, and as your site is 1 day old its not Googleable yet.
I'm a heavy contributor over on IMDb and am known there as Balrog20 (and CoyotePiper).
BTW, nice clean index page here. Easy on the eyes. All webs should take a clue from your design. Now to cruise around, read some posts, and get busy with making an avatar.
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Yes, we're a week old and still not listed anywhere in Google. It's aggravating. I had to settle for BetterMost.net because the .com was taken. But to let everyone in on a secret - you can also reach this site through www.beyondbrokebackmountain.com which will land you the same place. I was contemplating calling the site that from the outset, but NBC/Universal, which owns the rights to Brokeback Mountain, has been extremely strict on protecting their intellectual property rights and have chased after domain names that violate their trademark, and I didn't want to go down that road.
Further, since this site is really not about the movie itself but about how people are dealing with what the movie dealt them, I wasn't sure how much I wanted to invest in the name of the film itself.
I've convinced myself that branding can be done on just about any name, given time and promotion. :-)
BTW, nice clean index page here. Easy on the eyes. All webs should take a clue from your design.
There was actually a different forum software package here during testing, but it was so clean it was sterile. I wanted to make the site visually appealing, without overjunking it up with stuff. The only compromise I've made on that is the commercials on the side, and am trying to get those to actually be relevant to the site. There is a lot of behind the scenes stuff underway here I am working on in the five-six hours a day I am currently investing in the site.
Welcome aboard and thanks for making us a part of your web journeys.
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Hi Phillip,
I learnt about it from the IMDB board. You got a great idea here. So I'm introducing myself here, ijb4000 username on the IMDB boards. I'd love to see this forum take off in a big way. ;D
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Welcome aboard. With participation with great people like yourself, we can only get better!
I have made a long term commitment to this site and the entire concept. It's going to be hard work, but I think it's worth it. Please keep contributing your ideas and thoughts.
Over time, I hope we'll all get to know each other quite a bit.
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I saw your post on IMDB, and rushed right over! I think this is a great idea, and I hope good things come of it.
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I saw your post in IMDB too! I have an account there but I rarely use it... ;)
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Welcome emjayen and Drew.
We're still picking up two or three new users most days, which is fine. Special thanks to both of you for participating. For everyone else lurking out there, don't be shy. Say hello and join the conversation!
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Hello. I learned about your web-site from IMDB Brokeback forum. I saw your message there. I decided to come here because IMDB has so many messages and they are all obsesing about the movie itself and thats not what I need. I need to know what the heck do I do with what I am feeling inside. I am read through the messages here and you are very brave to do your web-site and be open with yourslef and everyone else. I wish I could be more like that. I also want to say you write real well and I dont so I'm sorry if I am not a good writer. I will try to write anyway. I think I have to.
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I decided to come here because IMDB has so many messages and they are all obsesing about the movie itself and thats not what I need. I need to know what the heck do I do with what I am feeling inside. I am read through the messages here and you are very brave to do your web-site and be open with yourslef and everyone else. I wish I could be more like that. I also want to say you write real well and I dont so I'm sorry if I am not a good writer. I will try to write anyway. I think I have to.
First, welcome Chris. It is actually nice to find someone that actually lives in the general vicinity of the story. I'm sure those of us who want to know more about western living have just found someone to act as our resource! IMDB has been an amazing place for a lot of us, if only because of the sheer number of people who have found comfort from literally thousands of fellow BBM'ers all trying to sort this out. I am hoping that BetterMost's angle of helping people get beyond the movie itself, and what I hope will be a more intimate environment for us to be open with one another will really make people comfortable. I appreciate your comments very much, and please do not worry about being a great writer. In seeing your other posts, I actually found them -more heartening- just because your writing style includes a lot of what I assume is the color and language of Idaho and Wyoming. It makes me feel more -of you- than I would if you wrote something sterile and without feeling.
You are a very important contribution to our home and I welcome you.
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I heard about it on the IMDb board and welcomed a chance to go beyond the specifics of the film and into the ways in which it is affecting the viewers. Now I'm wondering if I've wandered in the wrong door when I read posts from folks who would like this to be a site exclusively for the gay male community. I have been personally deeply affected by BBM, but I am a straight woman of senior age and don't wish to go where I'm not wanted. Please assure me this is not so, and give me hope that others of my gender and orientation may be drawn here too. I'm perhaps hoping for the impossible. :(
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I heard about it on the IMDb board and welcomed a chance to go beyond the specifics of the film and into the ways in which it is affecting the viewers. Now I'm wondering if I've wandered in the wrong door when I read posts from folks who would like this to be a site exclusively for the gay male community. I have been personally deeply affected by BBM, but I am a straight woman of senior age and don't wish to go where I'm not wanted. Please assure me this is not so, and give me hope that others of my gender and orientation may be drawn here too. I'm perhaps hoping for the impossible. :(
This isn't a site exclusively for gay males at all Iris. In fact, we've just launched a forum exclusively for women tonight. Pardon the dust as we continue to build the site. In looking over the roster of users, I am seeing several handles from those I'd assume to be women, and we want this place to be just as useful to you folks as well. Be sure to keep an eye on the Ladies Corner forum. Yeah, the name is terrible so I'm hoping we can get some more creative ideas. BBMGrandma will be your tour guide and moderator in that forum as she gets it off the ground this week. :)
Just because the guys are being more vocal right now doesn't mean this site isn't equally open to women. In fact, it has been my experience that most of the people "getting" this movie are straight women and gay men, so I'd be shooting myself in the foot if I excluded such a large group!
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I heard about it on the IMDb board and welcomed a chance to go beyond the specifics of the film and into the ways in which it is affecting the viewers. Now I'm wondering if I've wandered in the wrong door when I read posts from folks who would like this to be a site exclusively for the gay male community. I have been personally deeply affected by BBM, but I am a straight woman of senior age and don't wish to go where I'm not wanted. Please assure me this is not so, and give me hope that others of my gender and orientation may be drawn here too. I'm perhaps hoping for the impossible. :(
Dear IRIS.....you are most definitely wanted!! Please come join us in the WOMENS forum and let it out. It's such a wonderful place to discuss our feelings...together. I am ALSO a senior woman....greatly affected by 'our' movie.
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I found your post on imdb.com, an inviting prospect when looking at all the troll postings there! :)
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Also found your post from IDMb to be very inviting. I especially found the BBM Radio music to be refreshing and very relaxing. I'm not the most eloquent or expressive person around, but great job on the forums so far. ^_^
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Nancy, thanks for your welcoming words, and the sweet pic of "our boys." I'm so totally jazzed that there are people like you, and a place like this, to make my home. I'm a woman of 75 years, born and raised in Berkeley. Right across the Bay! I grew up shy and solitary in some ways, never dated in high school (until a stroke of luck just before graduation, when I was asked to the senior prom.) The first boys in my life were a couple of years before that. I used to travel on the F train to SF several times a week to take ballet lessons at the SF Ballet School when it was on Van Ness, right across from the Opera House. I discovered that one could sometimes usher there (at the OH) , so I signed on for that and it was there that I met my first boy friends. Three boys, 17 years old, from Castlemont High school in Oakland, who loved the ballet, the symphony, the opera. From then on I practically lived over there every chance I got. We had so much fun together, walking all over SF, taking the train back late at night (my blessed mother coming to pick me up at the end of the line). Of course these boys were "gay" although that word had no homosexual connotations in 1946. They were just my first sweet loves, and I understood on some level their sexual preferences, it was never spoken of and didn't make any difference whatsoever. I had found my "circle."
Well, years passed, my hormones finally kicked in, men came, I married once, divorced, married again. No children. By 1960 I was alone to explore the SF jazz scene, inter-racial affairs, many men, much unhappiness and confusion. No idea what I was doing with my life.
I'm not going to try to bring this life story all up to date just now, but Brokeback Mountain -- oh my God, how it has released a lifetime of tears, memories, connections, understandings, dreams, moments of transformation. I have been working (on some depression issues) with a therapist for about six months. She's very enthusiastic and supportive of the process I seem to be undergoing with BBM. All the addictive behaviors, the obsession, the listening to the CD over and over, seeing "the movie" once a week, living on the IMDb boards, neglecting my laundry and housekeeping, coming to understand the incredible depth of that masterpiece. I've got so much more to spill out, but maybe this is a good start.
I know I'm in good company here, and look forward to hearing more of your process, and sharing mine.
Peace, Elaine (aka Iristarr)
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Oh Elaine....another BIG welcome to our 'safe place' I KNOW that sharing our thoughts and feelings with one another can and WILL give us insight into this sociological phenomenon that we call our 'obsession' Hopefully we can learn from each other. I'm not too sure how long this constant...gut wrenching feeling will last. The ODD thing is....I'm not sure I want to get rid of it. I DO know that this story will sit in my heart...forever!! And yes....lost loves..buried emotions....all those vestiges of our humanity....dug up and laid bare!! The gutted SHEEP....so significant. The warm arms that we long to have around us....the SHIRTS!! It's unbelievable what deep deep significant memories this movie has wrung out of us. The aloneness in our older years that we DREAD....ENNIS and his closet!! This movie is DEFINITELY NOT just a gay insight....it has affected MANY of us who have love in our hearts. I find myself steering away from those 'friends' who just don't 'get it'. I'm offended if they broach the subject and ridicule me for my feelings. We older gals have so many more memories that we've compiled over the years.
I'm so glad you've found us...and that we've found YOU!! We'll travel up our 'mountain' together and we WILL reach the top....together!!
Nancy
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I saw it listed on the imdb message site. I only lurked over there, but at 11 viewings I am a huge fan of this amazing work of art and I think the purpose of this board is wonderful.
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Also found your post from IDMb to be very inviting. I especially found the BBM Radio music to be refreshing and very relaxing. I'm not the most eloquent or expressive person around, but great job on the forums so far. ^_^
Thanks for the nice comments and welcome. Be sure to vote in the BBM Radio Poll. I will be refining the playlist in the weeks ahead based on everyone's recommendations.
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I saw it listed on the imdb message site. I only lurked over there, but at 11 viewings I am a huge fan of this amazing work of art and I think the purpose of this board is wonderful.
Hi Lynne. I am very glad you chose to speak up over here even if you lurk over there. :)
I look forward to reading your thoughts and comments on the issues we bring up here in the days and weeks to come. Oscar weekend is this week. The challenge to keep us all together post-Oscars really starts soon....
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Hi, I just found about this on imdb too. I jumped over here b/c imdb is full of trolls. I just got here. Can't wait to check everything out!
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Now I'm wondering if I've wandered in the wrong door when I read posts from folks who would like this to be a site exclusively for the gay male community.
I assume you're referring to my posts, so I want to also welcome you, iristarr. Bettermost is for everyone and anyone who loves Brokeback Mountain and who want the film to be an impetus for growth in their personal life.
To clarify, my posts are about one feature within Bettermost, the Safe Haven forum. Phillip has graciously allowed us a forum just for LGBT peoples, and one just for women as well.
But this website is for everybody, and I apologize if I posted anything that didn't make that clear.
Welcome, iristarr!
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I love this site and people on it. Thanks to Impish for clarilying his post. This movie has definitely touched all of our hearts in a very special way. Iristarr, welcome and take a look at the ladies forum.
J.
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Hi, I just found about this on imdb too. I jumped over here b/c imdb is full of trolls. I just got here. Can't wait to check everything out!
Welcome Tooncy. We're now into week four and doing some slow but sure growing. Now that the Oscars have been handed out, we're going to start getting ready to push beyond Brokeback Mountain and get down to business to integrating the messages from the film into our own lives.
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Hi there. Like a lot of you, I saw a link to this site on IMDB. I thought it could be helpful to connect to other people who were also deeply affected by the movie, so looking forward to getting to know people on here. Thanks!
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I read about your site in a message on http://www.davecullen.com/brokebackmountain/ - which he calls The Ultimate Brokeback Guide. I have to admit I have found most of my jpg, gif and mp3 collection from links on his site. Some MOV and some WMV's too. But I try and surf safely and some of the sites that he links to have so many popups and other junk. Still, I haven't been back there since I signed on with you. Your site is at a great stage of development and I really thank you for putting it up.
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HI Folks...
Thought I'd poke my nose in here for a bit and say HI and Welcome too....to the new peeps in here.
I'm kind of the 'resident grandma' around here. I lurk around everywhere but am mainly found in the "Ladies Corner" hanging out with a bunch of gals who have had their socks knocked off...by Brokeback Mountain.
I'm joking a bit here but TRULY....our Brokeback Mountain is making very significant changes in a lot of our lives. Thank goodness for Philip who has given so many of us a safe place...a haven!! I was wandering around from forum to forum....thinking that perhaps I had gone crazy with the emotional upheaval I was feeling.
Next thing I knew I was in here...and feeling as snug as a bug in a rug. No longer alone with the feelings I was experiencing.
Thank you Philip...and welcome to our new friends!!
Nancy
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Hi there. Look a lot of you, I saw a link to this site on IMDB. I thought it could be helpful to connect to other people who were also deeply affected by the movie, so looking forward to getting to know people on here. Thanks!
Welcome aboard. I have a few people who occasionally mention us on the IMDB forum, but anything written there tends to scroll away quite rapidly. Anyone who can help spread the word about BetterMost to other forums will get my thanks, because I can't be aware of every one of them. :)
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I read about your site in a message on http://www.davecullen.com/brokebackmountain/ - which he calls The Ultimate Brokeback Guide. I have to admit I have found most of my jpg, gif and mp3 collection from links on his site. Some MOV and some WMV's too. But I try and surf safely and some of the sites that he links to have so many popups and other junk. Still, I haven't been back there since I signed on with you. Your site is at a great stage of development and I really thank you for putting it up.
Thanks for stopping by and joining us. Dave Cullen's forum is simply amazing in the sheer number of people that are over there posting away. The philosophy in the forum setup there seems to be to have a set number of threads and then have people reply within them, which I suppose makes it easier to find out what is where, but it is daunting for newbies like me over there to try and get through 200 pages of replies. :)
My goal here isn't really to compete with any of the other forums. In fact, I take pleasure in seeing people jump from one forum to another and end up back here again. I set BetterMost up mostly to move beyond the movie itself. I realize the IMDB and many other forums are focused on every detail of the film, but I suspect that once people are done doing that, there needs to be something beyond the film to keep people interested in the forum and topic.
So BetterMost was launched as an effort to bring a committed group of people together to move forward in their lives, knowing we all have one thing in common - a shared experience with the movie. But as we meet new challenges - be it a new career or relationship or just coming to terms with oneself better, there will be a familiar group of people here who will get to know each other who will hopefully still be here to support each other on these newer challenges.
A year from now, I don't know how much of this place will still be focused on Brokeback Mountain the movie versus User X has just decided to start a new business because they are not going to waste another moment doing what they aren't in life and they want support. Or, User Y has been working on their sexual orientation issues and has just found someone to go out with on a first date and want to share their feelings about that. After a year of getting to know both, hopefully the advice and support they receive from our little group will be worth something more than trying to open up with a group of strangers.
But never fear, I think we'll be making references to Jack and Ennis for a long time to come.
As far as external links on other sites, it's hard to control what happens when you leave a website. Pop-up ads are likely on those external sites to "monetize" them. We have some advertising on this site, but it's not designed to be intrusive. BetterMost is never going to be a whack-a-mole style popup ad site where you race to close windows as fast as they open. When I post external links, mostly on the Movie Resources forum, I try not to extend links to sites that will drive you crazy.
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One other little note: I saw the link on Imdb, and went for it. I noticed you only cited 11,000 individual postings to the BBM board on imdb, but it's waaaay over that--it's more like 150,000 now. Check it and see.
Heh... I'll definitely update my information. I think I grabbed the figure from a message someone posted there, but that could have been back around the turn of the new year. It's incredible to see the response over there, even if the sheer number of messages and the irritating forum software they use made it literally overwhelming.
Just in case you and others don't realize this, the IMDB messageboards for Brokeback Mountain (and same for each film there) EXPIRE after a certain period of time which is dependent on the amount of activity, ie, postings. At one time I noticed that that board had over 200,000 posts, the next I had the opportunity to look, it was about 170,000, and I thought I must have been mistaken originally. Then the next time I looked, I saw it at around 150,000, and I knew it had been more. Later still, I checked it again, and it was then at 120,000 posts, so I knew something was going on and investigated. Sure enough buried in the help and inofrmation of the IMDB, it quite clearly says that they do not view their messageboards as archive resources and all postings expire. The rate of expiration is automatically dynamically adjusted, so if a board gets very little traffic, any post there could stay for months and months, maybe years. However, if a board gets lots of traffic as BBM was getting in January, then the older posts start dropping off immediately. When I last looked about 2 weeks ago, I could only find threads going back to January 16th. All earlier had vanished. That was a shock to me, as there had been so much fascinating and in-depth discussion on the film. It seemed tragic that all that was going to be lost.
So, keep that in mind, and if there are some threads there you wish to preserve, you best get copy and pasting into some document on your own system. That's what I did to try to salvage some of those great discussion threads. But that's a lot of work, and not a very smooth operation, and of course you can't just zip up and down the posts as on the real board format.
Just thought I'd share this information, and take this opportunity to make my first post here.
Great site. I really like the concept and the good setup, and the BBM radio is great too!
I believe I learned of this site from another board, possibly "ultimatebrokebackmountain" forum (Variety Ad creating forum).
Jack in Maine
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Hi Jack.....nice to see you here with us. Thanks very much for the 'heads up' regarding the POSTS on IMBD. I HAVE saved a few of the posts....<Pierre...especially> and I'll go zipping through to see if there are any others I want...for posterity.
Hugssssssss....Nancy :-*
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Hi Jack.....nice to see you here with us. Thanks very much for the 'heads up' regarding the POSTS on IMBD. I HAVE saved a few of the posts....<Pierre...especially> and I'll go zipping through to see if there are any others I want...for posterity.
Hugssssssss....Nancy :-*
Thanks for the welcome, Nancy!
I've been reading around this board. I read your thread......amazing!
Yeah that IMDB messageboard behaviour was a real SHOCK to me as I had assumed that I could go back there whenever I wanted and reread some of those deep discussions. I also thought I could refer folks to them....so to learn that they are constantly evaporating is really beyond belief to me.
BetterMost seems to be a great board with a nice friendly feel. I'm glad to have found it.
And Phillip has been very nice and helpful in my PMs to him!
And how 'bout that BBM Radio! I think that's just great.
Jack in Maine
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I've been reading around this board. I read your thread......amazing!
BetterMost seems to be a great board with a nice friendly feel. I'm glad to have found it.
And Phillip has been very nice and helpful in my PMs to him!
And how 'bout that BBM Radio! I think that's just great.
Jack in Maine
Thanks Jack....and I am secretly madly in LOVE with Philip <wink> ....he's the BESTEST!!!
And BBM radio has me totally hooked!!
I hope you enjoy our forum Jack....we've got one HELLUVA bunch of great peeps here.
Lot's of LOVE and caring going on here...!!!
And it's JUST dawned on me....JUST NOW...that we've NEVER had any sort of nastiness in here!! It's people...helping people...in our quest to find some answers to that big thing called LIFE!!
I'm glad you found us too!!!
BIG WARM WELCOME HUG!!!!!! Nancy :-*
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On the topic of other boards, I tried to get involved over at the davecullen.com boards, but discovered that a newbie there can't start threads in most of the fora. You have to reply X number of times to other posters before the "Start New Topic" button appears on your screen.
To hell with that! :'(
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And it's JUST dawned on me....JUST NOW...that we've NEVER had any sort of nastiness in here!! It's people...helping people...in our quest to find some answers to that big thing called LIFE!!
I'm glad you found us too!!!
BIG WARM WELCOME HUG!!!!!! Nancy :-*
I think I've discovered our angle here at BetterMost - we're the Brokeback Mountain forum with a small town feel. Everyone seems to know everyone else because we aren't like them city slicker forums with 6000 posts. ;D
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On the topic of other boards, I tried to get involved over at the davecullen.com boards, but discovered that a newbie there can't start threads in most of the fora. You have to reply X number of times to other posters before the "Start New Topic" button appears on your screen.
To hell with that! :'(
I always thought that was just the way the forum was set up to limit the number of open threads to help keep things more organized. As Don Rumsfeld says, "who knows!" ;)
As I have said before, Dave's forum is just massive and I see people who have posted more than 1,000 messages over there. Wow. But it is daunting as a new user to try and comb through 200+ pages of messages in a thread. I knew when I started this I didn't want to compete with that anyway. Why reinvent the wheel. My effort was to find a niche. I am seeing varying success in helping people get beyond just discussing the movie, so I am trying different things until I see what works.
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Hello all,
I heard about Bettermost from Annie Proulx's website [url][http://www.annieproulx.com//url]
from a post sent from Phil :),
Cheers,
Stripey
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Hello all,
I heard about Bettermost from Annie Proulx's website
Welcome aboard...Stripey!! You'll like it here :) You've got some great folks here...we're glad to have ya!!!
Hugggs....Nancy :-*
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I was wondering about the name of the baked beans in Brokeback Mountain, wondering if the name of the bean was real or fake and went to Google, typed in "Baked Beans, Brokeback Mountain" and then went to the images and up popped the little picture of the BetterMost Beans!! So, from there, I came here!! Would LOVE to have one of those bean labels like in the movie. I would wrap it around an actual can of baked beans and keep it on the shelf!! haha.
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I actually stumbled upon it looking for Brokeback stuff in Google search. I use to go on Dave Cullen's site but is just too cluttered.
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Hello all,
I heard about Bettermost from Annie Proulx's website [url][http://www.annieproulx.com//url]
from a post sent from Phil :),
That post got removed BTW by the moderator who felt this was a commercial website raking in the dough (because we have some ads) and I was spamming the forum. Oh well. BTW, I don't think this site will ever make more than I shell out for this and BBM Radio. :)
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I was wondering about the name of the baked beans in Brokeback Mountain, wondering if the name of the bean was real or fake and went to Google, typed in "Baked Beans, Brokeback Mountain" and then went to the images and up popped the little picture of the BetterMost Beans!! So, from there, I came here!! Would LOVE to have one of those bean labels like in the movie. I would wrap it around an actual can of baked beans and keep it on the shelf!! haha.
This site name came from the fact I couldn't get sued for using it - Hollywood studios have gotten very fussy about what you use as a site/domain name. I was originally going to call this site beyondbrokebackmountain.com (and the domain is registered for it), but considering past history, there was every chance I'd get a cease-and-desist letter for using the name of the film in a domain name. It's happened many times before.
Welcome aboard BTW.
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I actually stumbled upon it looking for Brokeback stuff in Google search. I use to go on Dave Cullen's site but is just too cluttered.
Yes, we're slowly climbing the Google results engine listing. The more places that link to us, the higher the results will go. We're probably going to be the small town-style site for a long time to come, at least until people stop dwelling on the movie and the fan sites start to quiet down. Since this is designed to carry forward beyond the film, hopefully we'll see less of that.
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Great to find the site- love the radio mix playing in the background while I write and read. It's a perfect fit and a wonderful idea! I found the site through a posting over at the brokeback-mountain yahoo group [BBM]. Quite an active little bunch we are over there. I prefer the intimacy of a smaller site like this and [BBM]. Not to diminish its importance but Cullen's is just so overwhelming now. However, any site, any outlet that gets people thinking, reacting and learning from this great work, is worthwhile in my books.
I first saw BBM at the Toronto Film Festival, where our two boys first met their public and first read Ms. Proulx's story some seven-odd years ago. I was looking forward to the possibility of a screen version, with doubts it would ever come to light, since Gus Van Zandt was shopping it around. 'Can't say enough how profoundly this story and film have affected how I now view life. The whole idea and importance of 'seizing the day' and treasuring what we've got. Anyhow, thanks for setting it up, Phillip! I look forward to exploring and sharing in it!
Rob
Toronto
P.S.: I try to reference "Better Most Beans" at the drop of a hat. Love it. 'Wish they were real. I'd be a spokesperson for sure! 'Gotta love Ang and his penchant for vintage-type labels!
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Great to find the site- love the radio mix playing in the background while I write and read. It's a perfect fit and a wonderful idea! I found the site through a posting over at the brokeback-mountain yahoo group [BBM]. Quite an active little bunch we are over there. I prefer the intimacy of a smaller site like this and [BBM]. Not to diminish its importance but Cullen's is just so overwhelming now. However, any site, any outlet that gets people thinking, reacting and learning from this great work, is worthwhile in my books.
Welcome to our small town-style forum. :)
I am a bit behind in updating the playlist for BBM Radio. I am considering expanding it if there is support from the users. Right now it runs around $13 a month for 3.5 hours of music. If I upgrade to the $25-30 package, I get around 10 hours of space which means more music. I am definitely going to recruit some volunteer "assistant DJs" to help me build the thing down the road.
Please feel free to jump into any/all discussions. A lot of the messages here often are two people talking back and forth, but that's only because a lot of our lurkers haven't joined the conversation. We're all a family around here and we welcome everyone's input!
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Would LOVE to have one of those bean labels like in the movie. I would wrap it around an actual can of baked beans and keep it on the shelf!! haha.
I know someone who did that.
Here's my first post and introduction - I remember when Phillip posted about 6 weeks ago on the IMDb BBM board. It sounded good, but I was happily ensconced over there. Now there's been recent unpleasant troll activity over there, and I'm looking for a new, safe home.
I'm a Brokie, have seen the movie a bunch of times (most recently for a while on my laptop in the front seat of my car this afternoon while waiting for someone), and want to be among like-interested, warm people. I had that til the troll yuckiness started at IMDb. Now I'm a refugee.
An update 6 months later - I cannot believe I didn't say that Celeste found us this lovely refuge. She and I and several others worked hard to invite people over from IMDb, checking with each other - "Did you invite so and so?"
I love it here more than ever. Thank you for our home, Phillip.
Clarissa
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I found it listed on Live 365... I was so glad to see it.
Rayn
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I googled bettermost beans and there were few choices there
you are a cool site thanks for all this work
I really appreciate being here
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The 3rd time i saw the movie--Better Most Beans (in tomato sauce)--oh--this here board. There was a letter in my e-mail this morninjg from one of you honchos.
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A welcome to Ellemeno and Julie who are part of the IMDB refugee community, Ray who is one of the handful of people who found us via Brokeback Mountain Radio and Toast who found us the old-fashioned way - through a search engine.
This site is always a work in progress, so I hope you'll help us make it a better place.
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Hi, my name is Stacey. I am an IMDb refugee. Nice of ya to have me.
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I probably registered for Bettermost some time ago, having hear of it through IMDb (I think), however, it's through Miss Vikky's encouragement that I'm attempting to explore your village. I still know practically nothing of the place, but have at least one thing down pat: I know where the Icon message gets shown.
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;D I've been busy transforming and expanding the popular "ABCs of BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN" and its "Guidelinez" from the IMDB's BBM Board to its new and 'better most' home at the Better Most Company! It is a terrible loss to the BBM Board but a big gain for BM here. The "ABCs" had been not only their most popular game but their most popular file ever! Within one month it had over 1,300 actual posts and way over 5,000 visitors! You'll hear more about the "ABCs of BBM" from other members here who were players there. :)
I received an e-mail about www.BetterMost.net and then I saw it posted at IMDB's BBM. However, besides my regular life and job, etc., I was managing the huge "ABCs" game with the later help of Fran and Arturo. Uniquely, besides my "Linez =U= Won't Hear at BBM", the "ABCs" was virtually the only file at IMDB's BBM that was troll-free! Ultimately, the phantom trollz did not sink the "ABCs" crown jewel flagship of BBM; however, by sending a rocket to its propellars, they disengaged it. It's still afloat there -- but evacuated and drifting!
Meanwhile, I received a dozen invitations to join BetterMost; however, the one who smartly convinced me -- and it was backed up by action from Phillip -- was AMH-625, more nicely known as Ann Marie. :-*
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I registered here in late February because I was moved by Philip's post at IMDb's Brokeback board; it was very inviting indeed. But I don't post or contribute much since writing is not my forte. I'm the town lurker who goes wherever there is great discussion on BBM to be found, and that's usually where it's more populated with a variety of posters.
But, I just found out that even CaseyCornelius' thread at IMDb, "Classical Allusions" was deleted, and this was the straw that broke the camel's back. So let me just say that I am looking forward to visiting this and other forums more often (Thank God this is a forum and not a "chat board"; I think forums are cooler) and I hope everything works out for all the IMDb immigrants (including the Tremblayans) whom are fed up with the trolls as much as I am.
p.s. That's great news about your ABC's thread, Will (1,300 posts and over 5,000 visitors?). I didn't know that bit of info, congrats.
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It's ironic that U mentioned and congratulated me on the "ABCs" game at IMDB's BBM! Thanx! ;D
Today -- April 4th, 2006 -- finally (a little too late) one of my two appointed co-monitors there -- Fran, who I brought here to BM -- just rec'd a private message from an actual human administrator "Alex" at the IMDB who validated that our "ABCs of BBM" file had not just 1,330 posts but actually 1,500 posts! They count "deleted" posts as, in fact, they are actual posts by people who took the time to post. Right they are. But at 1,500 posts, the file maxes out and shuts off. Unfortunately, there can be "no new posts". The file is saved and remains visible. Of course, we never knew all that as they never told us.
Then, I started the "ABC's Part II" which got up to about 300 posts when it was sneak-attacked like the Lusitannia and sunk by Phantom Trollz! That's when many people at BBM left! That was the last attack rocket!
Well, that's a little more "ABCs of BBM" info -- which is good that I also remind myself.
Will-ABC
X-Mayor of ABC's of BBM at IMDB
(There is no replacement for me there as there's no longer a there, there!)
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Thanks to Will-U's PM to me at imdb where our ABC's of BBM thread was unceremoniously booted from the active files, I've arrived at this safe haven.
I watched my BBM DVD last night with subtitles and felt that I knew more about it through our ABC's than watching it in the theatre. I'm greatly impressed with the attention to detail of my fellow players and I look forward to being in our new home!
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Someone posted a link to it on IMDb, recommending it. I bookmarked the site just in case, thinking it'd come in handy, and it sure did when the Tremblayans decided to migrate message boards.
www.jlodown.com (http://www.jlodown.com)
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I'm new to the forum, and this is my first post. I learned about this site through my dear friend who is one of the moderators here. I haven't had a chance to look at too much yet, but what I see, I do very much like. I know if she's involved, it's special, because she is.
I saw the movie at the theatre and just re-watched it on DVD...still tugging at me in so many ways. It's hard to even put into words, but it's so nice to know I'm not alone.
Thanks for the oppurtunity to be a part of this...looking forward to checking it out more...looks like a very impressive, well-done site.
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Tell you what, I was invited by latjoreme a while back! Yeehaw! What a lovely place.
I had been posting on imdb for quite a while (and I still go over there to try to keep things positive, fight trolls, etc.) and am also a refugee. My name over there is amandazehnder
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I learned about this site through my dear friend who is one of the moderators here.
Dear Sam....
I'm SO glad you made it here. Welcome to our little campsite. Throw a log on the fire and sit a spell. You'll find wonderful folks here...and answers to a LOT of questions.
Hugsss....Nancy :-*
p.s. to my fellow Brokaholics....Sam is my dear friend!! I'm so glad he's made it over to our Mountain.
AND BTW....welcome too....all you new Brokaholics!! It's SOO nice to have you all join us!! ;D
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I am a IMDb refugee. Started lurking BBM then PT board back in Dec, 2005. vkm91941 invited me over here when the troll activities became unbearable over IMDb a few days ago. Thanks for hosting us here!
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I heard about this board on IMDB, and I'm glad I did. The Brokeback board there is being infiltrated big time by trolls, etc. I'm a die-hard fan of the movie, and well, a LOT of movies, so I'm looking forward to reading your posts.
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Welcom, prowlamongus! :D
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From a post on the Imdb BBM board.
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Heya Catglith,
Welcome to BetterMost. Tell you what, I've been enjoying your posts back at Imdb for quite some time. My name over there is amandazehnder. I very rarely post on Imdb anymore. But, I've noticed that you've been keeping some good threads going over there.
cheers!
Amanda
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Hi, I,ve only posted once on here so far. I,m really really glad I found this site though, I,ve found out things about the film I didnt know!! BTW, there is a thread somewhere, I cant find it for the life of me, where someone asked about an extended scene of Ennis in the closet with the 2 shirts? They were going to try and find a link to this so that people could download it and watch it. Has anyone done that yet, and if not why not? We want to see it. :) I love this film, I love everything about it, including the 2 actors!! And please, fi you hanvt signed the petiton for 2 disc special edition dvd of BM go and do it today. The sooner we get that the better.
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Like many others, I saw what I think was Phillip's original posting for this site on the IMDb BBM board. It is only recently that I have upgraded my status in life from "lurker" to "nascent poster." It's good to feel so instantly welcome. This site is a fantastic contribution. Thanks, Phillip!!
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As per Br Patrick, I found a link in Dave Cullen's forum.
I still participate in a lovely 'buddy group' of Brokies there - a group in same part of the country - and occassionally on general threads. I must admit I find the general threads here a bit more user friendly - possibly due to smaller membership. Some of Dave's threads are truly :o making and move at breakneck pace. All good of course, since it shows just how many determined Brokies there are out there, but sometimes it's impossible to keep up!
W
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Through friends over on Pierre Tremblay...I was sent an invitation by Clarissa...
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I was invited over here by Meryl :-* I'd been doing my extensive BBM-gushing in LJ-land till then, but I'm very happy I took the plunge into BetterMost. :)
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I'm happy you did, too, Mikaela! It's been wonderful being able to share your brilliance with my fellow BetterMosters. :-*
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Hell, for all I know, she done the job: Lucise! ;D
Thanks Milli! You done right by me! :-*
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Yer welcome Anke! ;)
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I't looks like I am a little late in posting this here. The last message was in February!
Anyway, I heard about bettermost on IMDb. One or two of the moderators here told me about it and encouraged me to register. Also, a few Bettermost members (non moderators) also mentioned it to me.
I'm sure glad they did. The troll action on IMDb is absolutely awful. >:(
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IMDb - someone wrote a note about it. I checked it out and loved it!
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Celeste and Clarissa invited me, to help them invite other posters on Pierre Tremblay when we made our mass exodus from IMDB. Like the Rangers we left no one behind ( or at least uninvited). Phil parted the red sea and here we are in the promised last, while the trolls stand on the opposite shore and jump up and down and stamp their little trolly feet! :laugh:
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IMDb - someone wrote a note about it. I checked it out and loved it!
Dianne - Well maybe things are beginning to quiet down over there then. I am trying my best to avoid it. It's a shame too. There are many nice people on IMDb. A LOT of nice people. It's sad when just a few can ruin it for so many others. :(
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Dianne - Well maybe things are beginning to quiet down over there then. I am trying my best to avoid it. It's a shame too. There are many nice people on IMDb. A LOT of nice people. It's sad when just a few can ruin it for so many others. :(
Yes, it was becoming a debate about religion, throwing Bible verses around, and name calling, etc. IMDb has deleted a bunch of posts. So, I know a bunch of us are coming here ... to this utopia! ::)
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Much like the rest of y'all, I was on IMDB shortly after seeing the movie. I enjoyed several good months there before the trolls took over and we moved from the BBM board to the secret "Pierre Tremblay" board. Well, that board was infiltrated and thankgoodness that Celeste and Clarissa remembered that Phillip had posted about BetterMost a while back.
That was March 30, 2006, 06:39:49 pm My life has never been the same since!
Victoria took us under her wings and shielded us from the Trolls as we fled IMDB like refugees. In the following months I've met several "Brokies" from near and far. And here we are several months past the Hoopla of the Oscars and still going strong.
PS: I just went back and read all of the posts on this thread from the beginning. There are alot of User names of folks that have real low posting numbers. I hope these are lurkers, not folks who fell out of touch. I wonder if we lost any people to Dave Cullen or Yahoo?
(http://static.flickr.com/40/88418360_aeb7226c6c.jpg?v=1137639396)
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I think I just woke up one morning, and here I was...no, someone posted that I should come, actually.
GOD, how I hate TSOM!!@!
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Someone who use to post here told me to ignore the nasty comments on IMDB about Bettermost and to check this place out for myself that I would like it. So here I am and so far I like it just fine.
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Welcome dot-matrix! :D
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Hmmm.... I thought for sure I found this through a search on Google. I was looking for BBM message boards.
I know for sure that I knew of this place before I started posting on IMDB... maybe it was via another link on a different site.
I know I was hanging out a the davecullen boards for a while...
Hmmm.... now I don't remember exactly...
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Hmmm.... I thought for sure I found this through a search on Google. I was looking for BBM message boards.
I know for sure that I knew of this place before I started posting on IMDB... maybe it was via another link on a different site.
I know I was hanging out a the davecullen boards for a while...
Hmmm.... now I don't remember exactly...
Just for kicks, I googled 'Brokeback Mountain forum' and Bettermost was displayed on page 2 of the query results. So it's entirely possible you came here that way.
'...I just like the direction you're goin.' :)
Glad you found us - Welcome!
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This site was mentioned and/or linked at another BBM forum I stopped going to. I like this board better.
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I saw a post on the Yahoo board, just the address, nothing else.