I also chose the option that Ennis did not vote.good one and probably very true, Lynne and Truman :)
During his years with Jack, '[they] could hunt in November' which leaves me with the sense that he would be focused on his personal issues and not worried overmuch about national politics. (Truman gets credit for this idea.)
Amanda makes a good case for him being a closeted Democrat, too!
Well, that would indicate he actually did go into that voting booth ever four f**ing years! ;)
I also went with "did not vote." I don't think of Ennis as paying much attention to politics.
If he had voted, I'm sure he'd vote Republican, because he's a conformist and most people around him would be Republicans. Also, I don't like to think about the famous deleted "hippie scene," but his behavior in that scene was pretty conservative.
Good idea for a poll, Kerry. How about a parallel one about Jack? From what I've seen, there may be more controversy regarding his political views.
I also chose the option that Ennis did not vote.
During his years with Jack, '[they] could hunt in November' which leaves me with the sense that he would be focused on his personal issues and not worried overmuch about national politics. (Truman gets credit for this idea.)
As Ennis aged, if he were even still alive in 2008, I cannot envision him as a man with interests extending much beyond his day-to-day existence. I would guess he'd feel so estranged from his fellow man (those on the 'pavement') that he would not even consider that his point of view would be valid.
:-\
Perhaps another poll could be started, titled, "If Jack had lived, how would he have voted?"
:o Yikes, Lynne, I'm only 5 years behind Ennis in age, and I plan on living at least another 40 years!!! :D Granted, I've never smoked! ;) :laugh:
Could Ennis have voted for BOTH parties?
I have read some interesting speculations on this thread, but the reasons for the question interests me far more than the answer.
And they're interesting for what they reveal about the movie and about Brokies' own ideas.I find this to be very true. It reveals a lot about how we view the characters. And it´s not a far fetched question. BBM, to me, is a movie with a message that to a certain extent also is political.
Seems like you answer your own question -- it's fun to speculate. The forum is full of these sorts of threads.
Personally, I'm not super fond of really far-reaching speculation: "If Ennis had accepted Jack's offer and they had gone to help out at the Twist ranch, would they have lived in the same house with the Twists and eaten their meals with them, and who would have done the dishes?" That kind of thing. For me, there's just not enough to go on to form sound opinions.
But as you see, there ARE some jumping-off points for speculation about Ennis' politics. And they're interesting for what they reveal about the movie and about Brokies' own ideas.
ok, but speculate with more than hunches.
a profile of Ennis, or Jack, Alma, Lureen can tell us more about how they might have voted in an election.
1) demographic profiles are a good start: income level, race, ethnicity, degree of religiosity, occupation, level of education
2) then throw in hunches based upon our knowledge of Ennis' attitudes from the dialog:
for the 2008 election what would Ennis opinion of : same sex marriage, affirmative action, welfare, the war in Iraq, terrorism, the economic downturn, etc. ?
... how would they vote based upon what we can fathom of their demographic profiles and hunches about their opinions?
There is an opinion that I can share, since I am closest in age to Jack and Ennis probably.thanks for an interesting post
I first registered to vote and voted in the 60's. I registered Republican, because I didnt really
know about the difference that much. I changed my party affiliation however before I voted for
President the first time. Because of Calif at the time having a six week registration period required
before election date. I didnt get to vote for JFK whom I had worked and prayed for his election.
I was one week too young to do that. But I can say that the Republican party and the democratic
party were almost completely different then from what they are these days. There was no talk at all of a gay agendas on either
of the national parties. They were both pretty conservative religiously, but not near so strident and
open in their right wing agendas. That pretty much started during the Bob Dole, Newt Gingrich
era. They were the forerunners of the religious, right wing nut section and division of the parties.
Before that it was only the occasional wing nut in congress like the infamous McCarthy, or his
ilk.
But the country was pretty conservative financially and militarily. Eisenhower was a typical
type American. He too was a financial conservative, as was Reagan, and all the Republicans that
I have remembered in office. Ford being the only one of the Republican Presidents that were
more or less centerest.
I still think that the national parties will only cover the gay issues, when they are drug along
on that road. I do not see them as leading the way. Even though some of their candidates
themselves, such as Mr Obama may secretly agree with them, they are worried about the loss
of their base. If they lose the people they need to elect them. Then wont be able to get
anything done. I think they tend to be politically pragmatic. Its an unfortunate part of the
job of getting elected.