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Title: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on November 27, 2009, 07:25:04 pm
This came up in another thread. I'm not sure there are enough of them to make a whole thread, and yet I wanted to introduce what seems to me an interesting concept.

Here are three I can think of: the actor Joseph Gordon-Levitt, the song "Wish You Were Here" by Pink Floyd, and fish tacos.

Feel free to discuss, and/or question why those things are relevant to BBM, and/or add your own.




Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somewhat Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on November 27, 2009, 07:47:28 pm
Love the topic, K.  Do you think we could change "somewhat" to "somehow?"  Seems to fit better, to me.

Well, for me there are a lot.  One that came up in yet another thread is the word "Aero."  Also tattoos, all of Australia, Amtrak, red velvet cake, striped clothing, and warshrags.  Lots more.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somewhat Brokieish
Post by: Kerry on November 27, 2009, 10:58:22 pm
Gosh, there are so many for me. I'm sure I won't be able to list them all. Here are some, just off the top of my head:
* Belt buckles
* Tents
* Rodeos
* Bars
* 4th of July fireworks
* Thanksgiving dinner
* Trailer parks
* Beat-up ole trucks
* Cigarettes (Yetch!)
* Elk
* Country graveyards
* Isolated farmhouses
* Mountains
* Pine trees
* Snow
* Lassos
* Mountain rivers
* Coyotes
* Condiments
* Sheep
* Apple pie
* Tattoos
* Country & Western music
* Cowboy shirts
* Western Australia

I'm sure I'll think of more, as soon as I press the Post button.  ;D
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somewhat Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on November 27, 2009, 11:16:13 pm
Good one, Kerry, condiments!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somewhat Brokieish
Post by: Sammi on November 27, 2009, 11:22:27 pm
Pickup trucks

Hole in the wall rednecky type bars

southern accents
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somewhat Brokieish
Post by: RouxB on November 28, 2009, 12:22:24 am
cowboy boots (with and without socks)
Horse trailers
a million different songs

 I won't even get into BbM fan fiction and all those references  ;D
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somewhat Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on November 28, 2009, 12:22:57 am
The beach
Brooklyn
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somewhat Brokieish
Post by: RouxB on November 28, 2009, 12:24:36 am
striped socks!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somewhat Brokieish
Post by: Meryl on November 28, 2009, 01:42:25 am
Five Leaves
Pajama bottoms
Chile
Cowgirl Hall of Fame
Harmonicas
Boundary Ranch
The Castro
The New Yorker
Soho
Argentina
Postcards
Devil's Tower
Cherry anything
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somewhat Brokieish
Post by: Penthesilea on November 28, 2009, 08:53:48 am
Australia anything
Maple syrup
French Toast
Pick up trucks
Scotland
Vacations in Southern Europe
Kerstin
My BIL
flying
Johnny Depp
bats
Gravestones
Rainbow flags


I'm sure there's more...
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somewhat Brokieish
Post by: Kerry on November 28, 2009, 09:08:43 am
* Soup
* Baked Beans
* Whiskey
* Electric Carving Knives
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somewhat Brokieish
Post by: Sophia on November 28, 2009, 10:19:09 am
banff nationalpark
chessplayers
chessboard
skateboard
Emanuel Swedenborg (reason Jake Gyllenhaal was born in USA)
odd religion (swedenborgianism)
swedish royality the nobels
nautical them decorations
malibu
saved tattoo
scott cambell
Mammot (the movie)
newmans own thin and chrispy
organic food
pub in fort mccloud
photostore in fort mccloud
postcards
rodeos
brokeback mountain gatherings
traveling longdistance
kids
marriage
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on November 28, 2009, 11:14:05 am
Love the topic, K.  Do you think we could change "somewhat" to "somehow?"  Seems to fit better, to me.

Done, and good idea.

What great lists, everybody! I love that the different items on them work on so many levels. Like, some would make sense only to those who'd seen the movie or read the story: cowboy boots, rodeos, belt buckles, beans. And some would make sense only to a genuine Brokie: Australia, cherry anything, the New Yorker, pajama bottoms, tattoos. And then some you'd have to be a pretty hardcore Brokie or BetterMostian: Five Leaves, warshrags, striped socks, red-velvet cake, the word Aero.

And then some don't even quite make sense to me!  :laugh: :laugh: Johnny Depp? Newman's Own Thin and Crispy? skateboard? bats? the beach? I'm curious about the origins of some of these, but you can elaborate or not -- your choice!  :) It's just interesting to see such varied lists.

I won't even get into BbM fan fiction and all those references  ;D

I bet that would open up a lot more! But feel free to post some, if you like.

Here are a few more of mine:

Denver and Estes Park
Drinking straight out of the bottle
Blue clothing
Tan clothing
Coffee pots in general, especially Splatterware ones
waitressing
Fried pickles
Thanksgiving
quick quizzes

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Penthesilea on November 28, 2009, 11:49:55 am
Done, and good idea.

What great lists, everybody! I love that the different items on them work on so many levels. Like, some would make sense only to those who'd seen the movie or read the story: cowboy boots, rodeos, belt buckles, beans. And some would make sense only to a genuine Brokie: Australia, cherry anything, the New Yorker, pajama bottoms, tattoos. And then some you'd have to be a pretty hardcore Brokie or BetterMostian: Five Leaves, warshrags, striped socks, red-velvet cake, the word Aero.


Yep. You're so right about the different categories!

Quote
And then some don't even quite make sense to me!  :laugh: :laugh: Johnny Depp? Newman's Own Thin and Crispy? skateboard? bats? the beach? I'm curious about the origins of some of these, but you can elaborate or not -- your choice!  :) It's just interesting to see such varied lists.



Johnny Depp because of The Imaginarium.
Bats - as in Batman, as in TDK



The one I didn't get is

*Agentinia* from Meryl.


Oh, oh - I ,might have a lightbulb moment: Argentinia = Gustavo
Is this the connection, Meryl?
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sophia on November 28, 2009, 12:11:27 pm
yes, its a very great idea.

from serious crayons
And then some don't even quite make sense to me!    Johnny Depp? Newman's Own Thin and Crispy? skateboard? bats? the beach? I'm curious about the origins of some of these, but you can elaborate or not -- your choice!   It's just interesting to see such varied lists.

Newman´s own thin and chrispy, represent the godfather to jake gyllenhaal, thin and chrispy is a pizza and could also prepresent jake and ennis and when they come together they become this delicious pizza. (last part only in my head)

skateboard- Heath ledger loved to hang with his mate and skateboard and play chess 
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on November 28, 2009, 12:17:59 pm
Thanks for the explanations, you guys!

Skateboard actually made some sense to me because of Heath's wonderful movie The Lords of Dogtown, about the birth of professional skateboarding.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sophia on November 28, 2009, 12:26:56 pm
Thanks for the explanations, you guys!

Skateboard actually made some sense to me because of Heath's wonderful movie The Lords of Dogtown, about the birth of professional skateboarding.



oh... right didn't think of that one... there you go, another resemblance to heath and BBM
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Meryl on November 28, 2009, 12:54:23 pm
The one I didn't get is

*Agentinia* from Meryl.


Oh, oh - I ,might have a lightbulb moment: Argentinia = Gustavo
Is this the connection, Meryl?

Congratulations!  Your top-notch Brokie credentials are secure.  ;D
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Kelda on November 28, 2009, 02:37:26 pm
The beach to me = the big wake they had for Heath's death and they all went swimming on that gorgeous beach.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on November 28, 2009, 04:58:40 pm
More or less everything American (which I used to be very  suspicious of.....  ::) ;D
Cowboys
Horses
Canada, esp Alberta
Fanfic
LJ
Cigarettes
Whiskey
Basques  ;D
My improved knowledge of English
Limericks
Creative writing
Mountains
Guns
Shirts (goes without saying)


There's lots more, but this is off the top of my head.


Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sophia on November 28, 2009, 07:08:50 pm
thank you all for sharing your thoughts around the subject, its very interesting to read about what kind of association people make with BBM.  here comes a few more...  :)

wood house
hat and buttons
love
open fields
brothers
twelfth night (queues)
broome street new york
cliff jumping
hiking

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Kerry on November 29, 2009, 01:41:27 am
* Australia Day Public Holiday - Jan 26 (first public screening in Oz, when I first saw BBM in 2006)

* Broadway Cinema Complex in Sydney (where I first saw BBM)
 
* Nursing / Student Nurse (Ennis thought Cassie wanted to study Nursing)

* My friend George, with whom I saw the first screening

* Cremation

* Grief and grieving
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on November 29, 2009, 01:58:58 am
Oprah
The Electric Company
the alphabet
Boston
San Francisco
The Castro District
Santa Monica
Texas
parkas
can openers
squinting
hunh-ing
cans of beans anywhere (like in a friend's kitchen today)
Donnie Darko
Mad World
Dennis Quaid
Mexican hookers
Quizas Quizas Quizas
Willie Nelson
Rufus Wainwright
Bob Dylan
Marfa, Texas
skateboards
Dopey the Dwarf
too-short jacket sleeves
Jamie Lee Curtis
Ernest Borgnine
blue
tan/brown
old pickup trucks
posts
Boudreaux's Butt Paste
Georgia
Tennessee
Cracker Barrel
Chicago
Minneapolis
New York City Opera
Calgary
New York (even though I was born and grew up there!)
Cheyenne
Elks Club
Santa Monica Pier
buckets
swing sets
cups of coffee
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sophia on November 29, 2009, 07:32:08 pm
Oprah
The Electric Company
the alphabet
Boston
San Francisco
The Castro District
Santa Monica
Texas
parkas
can openers
squinting
hunh-ing
cans of beans anywhere (like in a friend's kitchen today)
Donnie Darko
Mad World
Dennis Quaid
Mexican hookers
Quizas Quizas Quizas
Willie Nelson
Rufus Wainwright
Bob Dylan
Marfa, Texas
skateboards
Dopey the Dwarf
too-short jacket sleeves
Jamie Lee Curtis
Ernest Borgnine
blue
tan/brown
old pickup trucks
posts
Boudreaux's Butt Paste
Georgia
Tennessee
Cracker Barrel
Chicago
Minneapolis
New York City Opera
Calgary
New York (even though I was born and grew up there!)
Cheyenne
Elks Club
Santa Monica Pier
buckets
swing sets
cups of coffee


i  figure out most of the associations except for one, thats santa monica pier.  would you wanna elaborate with me on that one?
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Kerry on November 29, 2009, 10:11:56 pm
* Black & white television

* Ice skating

* Peter Tchaikovsky
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on November 29, 2009, 11:15:26 pm
* jean jackets

* spelling "huh" with an N ("hunh")

* laundromats

* fuckin, effin and f'in

* IMDb

* trolls ( >:()

* internet message boards in general

* movies in general



Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 30, 2009, 12:12:40 am
Devil's Tower
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on November 30, 2009, 12:22:06 am
i  figure out most of the associations except for one, thats santa monica pier.  would you wanna elaborate with me on that one?

That's what I visited February 14th, 2006, with Surf, the day after seven of us saw Heath, Jake, Michelle, Diana, Gustavo, and Rodrigo at the Aero.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Penthesilea on November 30, 2009, 02:06:02 am
I think many of the things who haven't got a direct BBM connection are Brokie connected: either we've talked about it on the boards, or it's places we've been to with fellow Brokies, or things we've experienced together.


*cheesecake

is such a thing for me. On my last Brokie trip (to NYC) Teresa introduced me to a cheesecake that is to die for.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on November 30, 2009, 12:50:24 pm
Taiwan
not putting apostrophes in the place of dropped sounds/letters, (four fuckin years)
the Oscars
sheep
bears
movie effects
the moon
nursing school
Julia Stiles
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Brown Eyes on November 30, 2009, 02:17:28 pm
Loving this thread!!  :D

It reminds me of the oblique BBM references thread (somewhere around here).... which I think was most photos of things that vaguely remind us of BBM.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on November 30, 2009, 04:42:36 pm
The internet
Skype
emails
vacation
travelling
cowboy outfits
the meaning of the word "friend"
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Brown Eyes on November 30, 2009, 05:33:31 pm
OK, so here's my list (for now)... and clearly many of these have already been mentioned by others.

LOL, K, I like that you mentioned fish tacos in your first post... because that's the first thing that springs to mind for me.

Some of these are more obvious than others (and LOL, I'm already realizing that this list is coming out stream-of-consciousness style  ;D ):


coffee
whiskey
cherries (these first 3 may be too obvious)
fish tacos
red velvet cake
New York/ Brooklyn
Seattle
Denver/Colorado
Wyoming - especially Cheyenne
fried pickles
Elks lodges
pick up trucks
Batman (anything having to do with Batman now for me...)
the Lonesome Dove series of books and the mini-series
internet forums
Striped Wall
imdb
Google Images
dive bars
PBR stuff (or any rodeo, bull riding stuff)
western gear
trailer parks
feathers
yes, and like Sason said... usage of words like "friend" and "Bud"

more later probably...


Also, here's the link to the thread about images that are somehow "obliquely" related to BBM or BetterMost: http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,27106.0.html (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,27106.0.html)


Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Berit on November 30, 2009, 05:42:55 pm
the meaning of the word "friend"

Yes! Beatiful! That word has got a new meaning......a special kind of friend....a Brokie friend.....the best.... :-*
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on November 30, 2009, 05:55:35 pm
Yes! Beatiful! That word has got a new meaning......a special kind of friend....a Brokie friend.....the best.... :-*

That's what I was aiming at, Berit!    (btw,  long time no see  :-*)


Although, I can see your point with the word too, atz!

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: southendmd on November 30, 2009, 06:04:59 pm
* Castro Theatre

* Travelodges (!)

* Broome Street

* Campbell Scott (he read the story on audiobook)

* "Moon River" and other moon-y songs

* Ben Harper

* my little silver whiskey flask

* saving movie ticket stubs

* chicken-fried steak

* Meyer lemons

* Texas gates  "a-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h!"

(http://esask.uregina.ca/management/app/assets/img/enc2/selectedbig/51F2B759-1560-95DA-4350B477D2AD88D6.jpg)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Monika on November 30, 2009, 06:16:57 pm

The wind blowing through treetops
Old, deserted houses

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on November 30, 2009, 06:19:43 pm

* Texas gates  "a-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h!"

(http://esask.uregina.ca/management/app/assets/img/enc2/selectedbig/51F2B759-1560-95DA-4350B477D2AD88D6.jpg)


OMG!! How could I forget them?? ??


  ;)  ;D  :laugh:



Aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh..............
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on November 30, 2009, 06:47:31 pm
stromboli
mint
tickets to anything
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Brown Eyes on November 30, 2009, 07:47:45 pm
"Landslide" by Fleetwood Mac
anything involving the word Aero



I'm curious about the stories behind some of these list items.  Stromboli?  Do tell!

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: southendmd on November 30, 2009, 08:06:34 pm
I'm curious about the stories behind some of these list items.  Stromboli?  Do tell!

Stromboli is one of our Chuckie's specialities.  Yum.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on November 30, 2009, 08:41:57 pm
"Landslide" by Fleetwood Mac

I didn't even know this song was Brokieish, yet I've been listening to it a lot over the past few years -- a YouTube version featuring an older Stevie Nicks and Lindsay Buckingham. I don't know why this thing grabbed hold of me in the first place, but maybe it sensed my Brokie credentials.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Brown Eyes on November 30, 2009, 09:40:03 pm
I didn't even know this song was Brokieish, yet I've been listening to it a lot over the past few years -- a YouTube version featuring an older Stevie Nicks and Lindsay Buckingham. I don't know why this thing grabbed hold of me in the first place, but maybe it sensed my Brokie credentials.



LOL, well Landslide is one of those songs that I've posted (probably more than once) in the threads around here that ask us to share songs that remind us of Jack and Ennis.  That song actually makes me weepy now... all due to BBM.  It's really a nice song. 
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Penthesilea on December 01, 2009, 02:01:16 am
* Broome Street

* Campbell Scott (he read the story on audiobook)



Scott Campbell is the name of the guy who did many of Heath's tats. How's that for funny?


Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 01, 2009, 02:08:45 am
I just saw Brothers and there were many jarring things that reminded me of Brokeback Mountain. The main character has two little girls. At one point, Jake even says, "He's the spitting image"!!!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on December 01, 2009, 02:28:07 am
I went and saw Julie & Julia tonight (which did not remind me of BBM).  But in the lobby there was a poster for a movie starring Abby Cornish and Ben Whishaw, two people I'm sure I still would never have heard of if they hadn't each been in a film with Heath.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on December 01, 2009, 09:37:03 am
The Squid and the Whale and Thank You for Smoking are two movies that remind me of Brokeback Mountain. "Squid" is the first non-BBM movie I went to after seeing BBM in theaters. "Smoking" is the first non-BBM movie I enjoyed after seeing BBM.

So I guess I could probably extend a bit of honorary Brokie status to Aaron Eckhart, who starred in "Smoking" and in TDK. I don't think I can grant it to anybody in "Squid," though.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Penthesilea on December 01, 2009, 10:45:25 am
The Squid and the Whale and Thank You for Smoking are two movies that remind me of Brokeback Mountain. "Squid" is the first non-BBM movie I went to after seeing BBM in theaters. "Smoking" is the first non-BBM movie I enjoyed after seeing BBM.

Yep. Wasn't that the strangest thing? For months and month I didn't even want to see any other movie. When I tried nonetheless, I didn't like them, gave up pretty soon and got back online, lol.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on December 01, 2009, 05:20:17 pm
I still haven't seen any other movie since Brokeback.

I guess I've met my One True Movie.  ;D
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sophia on December 01, 2009, 06:39:20 pm
I still haven't seen any other movie since Brokeback.

I guess I've met my One True Movie.  ;D

I guess then, you haft to wait til, Brokeback mountain 2 comes...   :)  I shall send a note to Ang Lee let him know, that you are waiting to go to the cinema again.  ;D
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on December 02, 2009, 06:53:31 am

So I guess I could probably extend a bit of honorary Brokie status to Aaron Eckhart, who starred in "Smoking" and in TDK. I don't think I can grant it to anybody in "Squid," though.




Took this as a fun challenge, so here's my best:

1. Owen Kline is the son of Kevin Kline - who was in The Ice Storm.
2. Jeff Daniels was in The Lookout with JGL, also Pleasantville with Toby Maguire.
3. Laura Linney was in Dave with Kevin Kline, and The Laramie Project, and Kinsey with Peter Sarsgaard.
4. Anna Paquin is from Canada!

And you said "Squid" doesn't have honorary Brokie status!  Pffft.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on December 02, 2009, 11:02:25 am

Took this as a fun challenge, so here's my best:

1. Owen Kline is the son of Kevin Kline - who was in The Ice Storm.
2. Jeff Daniels was in The Lookout with JGL, also Pleasantville with Toby Maguire.
3. Laura Linney was in Dave with Kevin Kline, and The Laramie Project, and Kinsey with Peter Sarsgaard.
4. Anna Paquin is from Canada!

And you said "Squid" doesn't have honorary Brokie status!  Pffft.


Well, plus, Jesse Eisenberg of "Squid" appeared with Kristen Stewart in Adventureland, which also starred Ryan Reynolds, who is married to Scarlett Johansson (as I learned just yesterday in the doctor's office's copy of WebMD, of all places! Where had I been?), who appeared in The Prestige with Christian Bale, who was in TDK with Heath.

Silly me! "Squid" is practically a BBM sequel.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 02, 2009, 11:09:08 am
Thank you for Smoking was one of the previews showing during the Brokeback theater run, so I saw that trailer a LOT. I also saw the movie later, but it didn't make much of an impression for me.

The first new movie I enjoyed after BBM was Slumdog Millionnaire. Yes, it was that long.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on December 02, 2009, 11:31:07 am
Thank you for Smoking was one of the previews showing during the Brokeback theater run, so I saw that trailer a LOT. I also saw the movie later, but it didn't make much of an impression for me.

The first new movie I enjoyed after BBM was Slumdog Millionnaire. Yes, it was that long.

Well, to clarify, I didn't mean "Smoking" was life-changing for me, or even in my top 20 movies -- or top 50. Just mildly enjoyable. But I recall sitting through "Squid" mentally critiquing it almost line by line. It was also a movie involving familial conflict and marital strife, but compared to BBM everything in it seemed so obvious and unsubtle and telegraphed.

I recall having to quit reading The Kite Runner at about that same time for the same reason. So I guess TKR has honorary anti-BBM status, too.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Penthesilea on December 02, 2009, 11:41:49 am
Thank you for Smoking was one of the previews showing during the Brokeback theater run, so I saw that trailer a LOT.

Somehow this thought made me smile.


Oh, and it reminds me of Focus Features, another thing that has become Brokie-ish. Every time I see the Focus logo, I expect to see BBM :).


(http://www.icouple.sg/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Focus_Features.jpg)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on December 02, 2009, 12:17:07 pm
Which reminds me. Another thing that has honorary Brokie status, or maybe the aforementioned honorary anti-Brokie status, is Crash, and everything related to it. Whenever I see the logo for Lions Gate Entertainment (such as last night, when watching a Mad Men Season 2 episode), I think of Crash. Which makes me think of BBM.

Speaking of which, Mad Men kind of reminds me of BBM, in that it's subtle and untelegraphed and filled with metaphors, and is set in 1963. But I don't think there's any good reason to give it full honorary Brokie status.

Oh wait! What was I thinking? MM's Elizabeth Moss appeared in The West Wing with Martin Sheen, who starred in The Departed, which featured Jack Nicholson, who once played the Joker and had dinner with Heath in a fictional memoir, as well as Mark Wahlberg, who supposedly was approached by Ang Lee about a role in BBM, and also starred with Kate Mara in Shooter. So there you go.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Brown Eyes on December 02, 2009, 12:40:07 pm
Which reminds me. Another thing that has honorary Brokie status, or maybe the aforementioned honorary anti-Brokie status, is Crash, and everything related to it. Whenever I see the logo for Lions Gate Entertainment (such as last night, when watching a Mad Men Season 2 episode), I think of Crash. Which makes me think of BBM.

Speaking of which, Mad Men kind of reminds me of BBM, in that it's subtle and untelegraphed and filled with metaphors, and is set in 1963. But I don't think there's any good reason to give it full honorary Brokie status.

Oh wait! What was I thinking? MM's Elizabeth Moss appeared in The West Wing with Martin Sheen, who starred in The Departed, which featured Jack Nicholson, who once played the Joker and had dinner with Heath in a fictional memoir, as well as Mark Wahlberg, who supposedly was approached by Ang Lee about a role in BBM, and also starred with Kate Mara in Shooter. So there you go.



 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
That's great K!  LOL, I guess our 6 degrees of separation from BBM skills have been well sharpened over the years and through BetterMost activities.

And, yep, it's certainly true about Crash... and for me, particularly the actors in Crash... that remind me of BBM.  Also, other actors who won the Oscar in place of our BBM cast members.  For instance...Philip Seymour Hoffman and George Clooney.

Actually, the whole topic of the Oscars and award shows - forever changed by the Brokie experience.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on December 02, 2009, 03:40:09 pm
I guess then, you haft to wait til, Brokeback mountain 2 comes...   :)  I shall send a note to Ang Lee let him know, that you are waiting to go to the cinema again.  ;D

LOL
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on December 02, 2009, 06:36:05 pm
water
air
fire
earth
mountains
trees
hail
snow
blankets
socks
potatoes
knives and forks
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on December 02, 2009, 06:36:23 pm
the internet
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on December 02, 2009, 06:38:30 pm
Swedish
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on December 02, 2009, 06:40:56 pm
Swedish

Aawwwww......


 ;D :-*
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on December 02, 2009, 06:43:01 pm
Aawwwww......


 ;D :-*


Back atcha!

:)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on December 02, 2009, 06:45:24 pm
crayons
ketchup
my backpack (bought in Canmore)
my camera case (bought in Fort McLeod, in the photo shop right under The Staircase)

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on December 02, 2009, 06:47:52 pm
heifers
calves
postcards
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on December 02, 2009, 06:58:29 pm
It probably would have been simpler to start a thread about things that DON'T remind you of BBM.  :laugh:

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Brown Eyes on December 03, 2009, 03:26:18 pm
Heath Bars... and by extension toffee-type candies.  And, also Heath Bar ice cream.

At the cafe at work they sell cookies with bits of Heath Bars in place of chocolate chips.  I often buy those cookies for a snack... and feel very Brokieish when I do.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on December 03, 2009, 03:32:21 pm
Heath Bars... and by extension toffee-type candies.  And, also Heath Bar ice cream.

Good one, A!

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on December 03, 2009, 04:10:57 pm
It probably would have been simpler to start a thread about things that DON'T remind you of BBM.  :laugh:




  ;)  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on December 03, 2009, 04:14:04 pm
bears
outdoor staircases
wooden bridges
motels
rivers
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on December 03, 2009, 04:14:59 pm
Everything associated with camping
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Monika on December 03, 2009, 04:17:17 pm
everything striped
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Brown Eyes on December 04, 2009, 12:03:01 pm
Folks who have met me at Brokie events will know about this... I normally wear a yin and yang ring in a silver setting along with my cowboy hat necklace, etc. as part of my standard Brokie gear.

I got that ring on my 16th birthday... so it's been a part of my life for a long time prior to the Brokie years.  But, now that ring is thoroughly and completely redefined as a completely Brokie object.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on December 05, 2009, 05:32:13 am
It probably would have been simpler to start a thread about things that DON'T remind you of BBM.  :laugh:




That would be a fun thread if we did it like that squid post - someone posts something seemingly unrelated to BBM, and we find some connection.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Penthesilea on December 05, 2009, 09:47:26 am

That would be a fun thread if we did it like that squid post - someone posts something seemingly unrelated to BBM, and we find some connection.

I've had the same thought. Similar to the 6 degrees game ;D.
Go on, start a thread, might be fun :D.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on December 05, 2009, 05:34:18 pm
Oh, how could I forget?!   :o

my handbag, bought in the HRC shop in the Castro

key lime pie

red velvet cake (although i never had it, but still!  :D)

hot chocolate with chilli

strange food for breakfast, like sausage, potatoes and bearnaise sauce   ;D :laugh:






Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Monika on December 05, 2009, 05:37:05 pm
I gotta ask - I have also come to associate Red Velvet Cake with BBM. But I have no idea why! ;D
Still, when I got a chance to try it in LA this spring, I jumped to the occassion!

Please, somebody tell me why :)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on December 05, 2009, 05:39:12 pm
I gotta ask - I have also come to associate Red Velvet Cake with BBM. But I have no idea why! ;D
Still, when I got a chance to try it in LA this spring, I jumped to the occassion!

Please, somebody tell me why :)

Because our Chuck is constantly going on about it!!!!     ::) :laugh:
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on December 05, 2009, 05:41:17 pm
That would be a fun thread if we did it like that squid post - someone posts something seemingly unrelated to BBM, and we find some connection.

I've had the same thought. Similar to the 6 degrees game ;D.
Go on, start a thread, might be fun :D.

I'm in!

Like, for example: Judy Garland. Judy Garland starred in The Wizard of Oz, in which the Wicked Witch of the East wore striped socks.


Because our Chuck is constantly going on about it!!!!     ::) :laugh:

I thought it was our Amanda!  :)

Well, my son really likes these red velvet bars I buy at Weight Watchers (one point each!). So there you go, Weight Watchers reminds me of Brokeback Mountain.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on December 06, 2009, 12:47:41 pm
I'm in!

Like, for example: Judy Garland. Judy Garland starred in The Wizard of Oz, in which the Wicked Witch of the East wore striped socks.


I thought it was our Amanda!  :)

Well, my son really likes these red velvet bars I buy at Weight Watchers (one point each!). So there you go, Weight Watchers reminds me of Brokeback Mountain.




:) 
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Penthesilea on December 06, 2009, 01:03:23 pm
Sacher torte!

(with greetings to Elle and Paul, mostly)
 :-*
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on December 06, 2009, 01:19:31 pm
Sacher torte!

(with greetings to Elle and Paul, mostly)
 :-*


Yum! 

Okay, I've started the new game.  It's here http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,44409.0.html

First two examples by seriouscrayons, game name by penthesilea.  I think it'd be nice, was hopin' you'd be there.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Penthesilea on December 06, 2009, 01:28:51 pm
I think it'd be nice, was hopin' you'd be there.

You bet!

(as soon as I know a connection :laugh:)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Brown Eyes on December 06, 2009, 02:48:14 pm
Well, red velvet cake is one of my favorite varieties of cake.  And, yes, I go on and on about it in my blog... and sometimes I send red velvet cake (pictures) to other people's blogs.  Chuck and I often discuss red velvet cake together.

We also had red velvet cake at the BBQ place during the May 09 Brokie get together in NYC.

Also, FWIW for fanfic readers, there's a charming red velvet cake reference in an old, good story.



***
OK, my contribution to this thread today is: knit caps.

This is partially inspired by Clarissa's current sig and also by recent Christmas shopping experiences.


Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on December 07, 2009, 03:55:14 pm
Seth Rogen
Jonah Hill
Knocked Up

I searched for a YouTube clip to illustrate why the last two are Brokieish, but I can't find it! Anybody have a link?


Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on December 07, 2009, 05:12:42 pm
Seth Rogen
Jonah Hill
Knocked Up

I searched for a YouTube clip to illustrate why the last two are Brokieish, but I can't find it! Anybody have a link?





Do you mean this?  It's partly funny, and partly pretty offensive, IMO.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX0SD_cazhs[/youtube]
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on December 07, 2009, 05:35:12 pm
I think more the latter than the former. Thanks for posting it, but no, that's not the one I had in mind.

I was thinking of the one with Jonah Hill and Katherine Heigl, where JH's character has just finished watching BBM and criticizes it in some unexpected ways.

Did I dream that? I could swear I've seen it on YouTube several times, but now can't find it anywhere.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on December 07, 2009, 05:39:34 pm
Today I found out my work is Brokieish!!!   :o

We were discussing plans for next year,

and decided on a study tour to a "green rehabilitation" place.

Doesn't sound very Brokieish, does it?



But guess what.

They use horses and sheep as instruments in their rehabilitation!!!


 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Brown Eyes on December 07, 2009, 07:55:33 pm
Skateboarders.


There was a skateboarder out on the steps at work today... eventhough it was one of the coldest days of the year so far here in Pittsburgh.
Anyway, seeing the skateboarder made me think of BBM.


Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Brown Eyes on December 09, 2009, 02:47:33 pm

This thread acutally inspired me to treat myself to some Heath Bar cookies for lunch today.  I just finished eating them! :)


Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on December 12, 2009, 10:07:38 pm
This is a great thread.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on December 13, 2009, 12:53:41 am
Today, my son and I went to pick up a friend of his in an unfamiliar part of the city -- a wealthy neighborhood featuring a small lake surrounded by huge, stately old houses. As we drove, my son and I pointed out which of these houses we particularly liked or disliked. My son's favorite was this especially spectacular contemporary house with lots of glass. After we picked up his friend, my son asked his friend if he knew who lived in that house. I was kind of surprised that my son even asked that question, because why would the kid know that?

But he did.

"Yeah, it's the producer of Brokeback Mountain," the kid said.

It must belong to William Pohlad, president of River Road Entertainment (and son of the late owner of the Twins baseball team).

So from now on, that part of my city will always be Brokieish to me.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Brown Eyes on December 13, 2009, 01:12:42 am
Today, my son and I went to pick up a friend of his in an unfamiliar part of the city -- a wealthy neighborhood featuring a small lake surrounded by huge, stately old houses. As we drove, my son and I pointed out which of these houses we particularly liked or disliked. My son's favorite was this especially spectacular contemporary house with lots of glass. After we picked up his friend, my son asked his friend if he knew who lived in that house. I was kind of surprised that my son even asked that question, because why would the kid know that?

But he did.

"Yeah, it's the producer of Brokeback Mountain," the kid said.

It must belong to William Pohlad, president of River Road Entertainment (and son of the late owner of the Twins baseball team).

So from now on, that part of my city will always be Brokieish to me.

Cool story K!



OK, here's mine for tonight (I know that to some this may seem controversial).... James Dean.  Several months ago, I bought the complete box set of James Dean movies (consisting of all 3 movies Dean made) only because of BBM.  I was going through my DVDs earlier tonight and stumbled across the set... and thought of this thread.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on December 13, 2009, 04:10:59 am
Have I already said The New Yorker?  Yes, the short story was originally published there, so of course that would make it supremely Brokieish, of course, but for me, even more because I now think of jmmgallagher and Front-Ranger and Jeff Wrangler when I think about the New Yorker.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on December 13, 2009, 04:12:37 am
Today, my son and I went to pick up a friend of his in an unfamiliar part of the city -- a wealthy neighborhood featuring a small lake surrounded by huge, stately old houses. As we drove, my son and I pointed out which of these houses we particularly liked or disliked. My son's favorite was this especially spectacular contemporary house with lots of glass. After we picked up his friend, my son asked his friend if he knew who lived in that house. I was kind of surprised that my son even asked that question, because why would the kid know that?

But he did.

"Yeah, it's the producer of Brokeback Mountain," the kid said.

It must belong to William Pohlad, president of River Road Entertainment (and son of the late owner of the Twins baseball team).

So from now on, that part of my city will always be Brokieish to me.




That's a good story.  I Googled him a bit.

He's the guy between Ang and James Schamus

(http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Focus+Features+Premiere+Lust+Caution+9IFXXLhTKHCl.jpg)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on December 13, 2009, 11:45:26 am

That's a good story.  I Googled him a bit.

He's the guy between Ang and James Schamus

Hmm, he's kind of hot. OK, new career plan: Get job at River Road Entertainment, meet William Pohlad, move into fancy house on lake.

Or wait, maybe not ... There'd be all those fancy red-carpet functions, and my picture would show up in People magazine as a "worst dressed" ... Never mind.

But River Road Entertainment sounds interesting. Here are the movies it has done:

Brokeback Mountain
I’m Going to Tell You A Secret
A Prairie Home Companion
Fur
Into the Wild
C7
Che

I've only seen one other (Into the Wild -- which was good), and haven't heard of a couple of these, but those I am familiar with sound interesting and even risk-taking.


I now think of jmmgallagher and Front-Ranger and Jeff Wrangler when I think about the New Yorker.

Think of me, too! I've been subscribing since the early '80s, and have about 127 of them piled up around the house as we speak.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on December 13, 2009, 12:29:21 pm
Today, my son and I went to pick up a friend of his in an unfamiliar part of the city -- a wealthy neighborhood featuring a small lake surrounded by huge, stately old houses. As we drove, my son and I pointed out which of these houses we particularly liked or disliked. My son's favorite was this especially spectacular contemporary house with lots of glass. After we picked up his friend, my son asked his friend if he knew who lived in that house. I was kind of surprised that my son even asked that question, because why would the kid know that?

But he did.

"Yeah, it's the producer of Brokeback Mountain," the kid said.

It must belong to William Pohlad, president of River Road Entertainment (and son of the late owner of the Twins baseball team).

So from now on, that part of my city will always be Brokieish to me.



Wow!!!

That's some connection!!!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on December 13, 2009, 07:25:20 pm
My grandma's name was Alma. So years on years before Annie Proulx was even born, my grandma was busy being Brokieish.

And to connect the generations, I have consumed many Beers in my time.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on December 13, 2009, 07:39:13 pm
Seth Rogen
Jonah Hill
Knocked Up

I searched for a YouTube clip to illustrate why the last two are Brokieish, but I can't find it! Anybody have a link?

Do you mean this?

Thanks for posting it, but no, that's not the one I had in mind.

I was thinking of the one with Jonah Hill and Katherine Heigl, where JH's character has just finished watching BBM and criticizes it in some unexpected ways.

Found it, finally! Unfortunately, it's no longer on YouTube -- apparently a copyright issue -- so I can't post it, but you can see it here:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=15879073 (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=15879073)

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 17, 2009, 01:45:31 pm
I gotta ask - I have also come to associate Red Velvet Cake with BBM. But I have no idea why! ;D
Still, when I got a chance to try it in LA this spring, I jumped to the occassion!

Please, somebody tell me why :)

And now I'm always stocking up on Swedish Fish!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 17, 2009, 01:46:12 pm
Playing pool seems somehow Brokeish to me, but I don't know exactly why.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on December 17, 2009, 03:55:05 pm
Today my choir was gonna sing outdoors at an event.

It was freezing cold while we waited for the bloody thing to start,
and I tried to warm myself by jumping up and down while making some kind of sound with my voice.

I then heard my voice kinda stutter as I was jumping,
and without even thinking, I said to myself "Texas Gate!"

 ;D ;D ;D


(that's what we were frequently saying while driving around Alberta this summer every time we crossed a cattle guard)

So now, freezing cold weather reminds me of BBM!!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Monika on December 17, 2009, 04:00:46 pm
Today my choir was gonna sing outdoors at an event.

It was freezing cold while we waited for the bloody thing to start,
and I tried to warm myself by jumping up and down while making some kind of sound with my voice.

I then heard my voice kinda stutter as I was jumping,
and without even thinking, I said to myself "Texas Gate!"

 ;D ;D ;D


(that's what we were frequently saying while driving around Alberta this summer every time we crossed a cattle guard)

So now, freezing cold weather reminds me of BBM!!
good memories! Yes, it was freezing today, wasn't it. And I also had a BBM experience. As I half ran (because of the freaking cold) from the bus stop to my work place this morning,  I repeated to myself "I oughta go south. I oughta go to Mexico. I oughta go south. I oughta go to Mexico...."

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on December 17, 2009, 04:09:56 pm
good memories! Yes, it was freezing today, wasn't it. And I also had a BBM experience. As I half ran (because of the freaking cold) from the bus stop to my work place this morning,  I repeated to myself "I oughta go south. I oughta go to Mexico. I oughta go south. I oughta go to Mexico...."



 ;D   Good memories indeed!!!


Unbelievable the things that cold weather brings out in us......    :laugh:
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Penthesilea on December 18, 2009, 08:34:21 am
Playing pool seems somehow Brokeish to me, but I don't know exactly why.


I know why! :D

(http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/Penthesilea09/920148684209_0_BG.jpg)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 18, 2009, 11:25:09 am
Doh!! Great picture, Chrissi! I haven't seen that one before!! Miss you all!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on December 20, 2009, 05:02:49 am
I was watching my child ice skate this week, and there was an ice hockey player on the rink practicing, and that reminded me of Levi Johnston, which reminded me of Sarah Palin, who, after the many posts about her here, is surely Brokieish.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on December 20, 2009, 09:40:15 am
After the failure in Copenhagen ( >:( >:( >:(), there was a headline in my newspaper today,
stating that instead of Hopenhagen, it now has to be called Brokenhagen.

I'm so brokiefied by now, that it took me a couple of seconds to realize that it wasn't a reference to Brokeback....  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: belbbmfan on December 20, 2009, 01:10:38 pm
After the failure in Copenhagen ( >:( >:( >:(), there was a headline in my newspaper today,
stating that instead of Hopenhagen, it now has to be called Brokenhagen.

I'm so brokiefied by now, that it took me a couple of seconds to realize that it wasn't a reference to Brokeback....  ::) ::)



Brokenhagen, brokiefied, ...the list is endless.  :)

And over here in Belgium, if I wanted to, I could go outside and do an 'Ennis snow dance'.

I won't though.  ;D
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on December 20, 2009, 01:17:05 pm
Yeah, I could do that here in Sweden too.

But I have no tent at hand, so I won't....    ;D
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on December 20, 2009, 02:03:32 pm
Anything broken seems Brokieish. Especially if you can't fix it and gotta stand it.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Monika on December 20, 2009, 05:21:32 pm
as I walked through the winter wondeland that is Sweden at the moment, it struck me how Brokieish snow is.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: belbbmfan on December 21, 2009, 02:59:11 am
as I walked through the winter wondeland that is Sweden at the moment, it struck me how Brokieish snow is.


Same here. I'm debatting going to work today (on foot, driving doesn't look very appealing at the moment) or just working from home. I've never seen this much snow. I wish it'd just stuck on hour...
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 28, 2009, 08:13:17 pm
Anything broken seems Brokieish. Especially if you can't fix it and gotta stand it.


You bet, Katherine! As Bob Dylan said, "Everything is Brokenback!" And he is definitely Brokeish, in fact, he wrote (or wrote down, enniway) the words to "He Was a Friend of Mine." I agree also with snow being Brokeish.

But, Ellemeno, I do not know who Levi Johnston is, so I can't say one way or the other if I agree with you about him being Brokeish. But, Sarah Palin? I don't see how she is Brokeish. She does remind me just a bit of Lureen, I guess. Sorry Lureen.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sophia on December 28, 2009, 10:24:41 pm
for me, all the brokie reference different tv-shows, movies makes is to me somehow brokieish. A couple of weeks ago I saw an episode of a american teenage series (don´t recall the name) and suddenly the to boys in the tv-series were camping, sitting by the fire and one of the guys just said it wanna do a brokeback? And of course the didn´t really do it, but its fun that other tv-shows and movies pic it up.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Brown Eyes on December 29, 2009, 02:48:55 pm
When I was home visiting my parents for the whole week of Christmas... I realized that the news radio station that my Dad listens to in the car (mostly for weather and traffic updates) is Brokieish.  The radio station is called WBBM 780.

LOL, everytime the newscasters would say the name of the radio station I'd get a little jolt.


Also, another funny Brokie thing happened over the holiday break.  My Mom and I were in line at the store called Home Goods.. and near the checkout lanes they had a very small, random selection of DVDs on display. There were two copies of BBM right in front of the group.  It was somehow surprising to see it sitting there.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Brown Eyes on January 01, 2010, 02:00:47 pm
Having just finished watching this year's Rose Parade, I realize that many aspects of that parade are Brokieish (and also Lonesome Dove-ish)... lots of references to many different western things and lots of horse info that relates to both BBM and LD.

:)

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Ellemeno on January 01, 2010, 09:45:38 pm

But, Ellemeno, I do not know who Levi Johnston is, so I can't say one way or the other if I agree with you about him being Brokeish. But, Sarah Palin? I don't see how she is Brokeish. She does remind me just a bit of Lureen, I guess. Sorry Lureen.


Front-Ranger, Sarah Palin is Brokieish because of all the time and energy that was spent discussing her here.  Levi Johnston is her son in law.

I'm beginning to think that 'Brokieish' and 'Brokeish' aren't just different variations on one word, but rather two different words.  The first refers to anything Brokie-related, the second anything related to Brokeback Mountain itself. 
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sammi on January 06, 2010, 12:12:44 am
Two cool Brokeback things happened to me today:

1) Did a crossword puzzle where one of the answers was "rodeo"

2) Watched a CSI episode with the LD Newsome actor in it playing a Fire Chief! (Sit down you old sonofabith!)

I love being reminded of BBM when I am not expecting it!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Brown Eyes on January 17, 2010, 06:37:28 pm
Today I had a moment of Brokie guilt... I was driving by a big movie complex and noticed that both Brothers and Imaginarium were listed on the sign as showing there.  I haven't seen either yet... but of course seeing the sign made me think Brokieish thoughts.

I just can't motivate myself to go see those movies alone... especially Imaginarium.   :-\

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sophia on January 17, 2010, 06:56:39 pm
Today I had a moment of Brokie guilt... I was driving by a big movie complex and noticed that both Brothers and Imaginarium were listed on the sign as showing there.  I haven't seen either yet... but of course seeing the sign made me think Brokieish thoughts.

I just can't motivate myself to go see those movies alone... especially Imaginarium.   :-\



if i lived closer to pittsburgh, i defently would have come see it with you! You haft see them, and i promise you you will laugh with the TIoDP its unavoidable.  :-* 
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Brown Eyes on January 17, 2010, 08:05:22 pm
if i lived closer to pittsburgh, i defently would have come see it with you! You haft see them, and i promise you you will laugh with the TIoDP its unavoidable.  :-* 

Thanks for the words of encouragement Bud! :)

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on January 24, 2010, 01:44:57 am
So tonight, I turned on the car radio, and what should just be coming on but this:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXCHa9BYfE[/youtube]

(Well, not that exact live recording, but the original studio version. I really like this live one, though, but I have to warn you that for some reason in this particular video it cuts off rather abruptly at the end.)

Originally, when I realized this song was Brokieish, I'd always get kind of sad when listening to it, thinking of how it reflected on Ennis' and Jack's relationship.

Tonight, though, hearing it, I was happy, thinking of how odd it is that a 1975 recording by a British band should come to be widely recognized as a Brokie emblem among a weird and strangely assorted group of people living in several continents who have come together on a handful of websites for really mysterious reasons.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Brown Eyes on January 24, 2010, 11:55:22 am

Very cool K! 

Yes, the range of connections is pretty amazing when it comes to people drawn to BBM and things like music and literature, etc. that can be related (at least thematically, or by mood, etc.) to BBM.

The year 1975 is at least appropriate to the range of time in the BBM narrative... although, LOL, I don't know if E or J would be likely to listen to Floyd.

This Pink Floyd song might be good for on of those threads, floating around here somewhere, about songs that remind us of Ennis and Jack.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on January 24, 2010, 12:51:37 pm
This Pink Floyd song might be good for on of those threads, floating around here somewhere, about songs that remind us of Ennis and Jack.

Oh, it's on there. I posted it years ago. And the weirdest thing was, on the day I posted it, Isabelle posted that she had woken up that same morning thinking about that song and feeling she wanted to mention it on that thread.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Penthesilea on January 24, 2010, 01:47:22 pm
So tonight, I turned on the car radio, and what should just be coming on but this:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXCHa9BYfE[/youtube]

(Well, not that exact live recording, but the original studio version. I really like this live one, though, but I have to warn you that for some reason in this particular video it cuts off rather abruptly at the end.)

Originally, when I realized this song was Brokieish, I'd always get kind of sad when listening to it, thinking of how it reflected on Ennis' and Jack's relationship.

Tonight, though, hearing it, I was happy, thinking of how odd it is that a 1975 recording by a British band should come to be widely recognized as a Brokie emblem among a weird and strangely assorted group of people living in several continents who have come together on a handful of websites for really mysterious reasons.



 :)

Oh my, speaking of strange connections. I had a similar experience maybe two weeks ago. I even had similar thoughts to yours. First I smiled from ear to ear because it made me think of my Brokie friends, which admittedly is no wonder because this song has come up on BM several times.
Then I listened to the song and the melancholy of it caught me and I felt sad for Ennis and Jack.


I don't remember where I was coming from, but I could exactly point out the street and even the point of the street were I was when the song started. It was an intensive Brokie moment, I remember it so clearly. And now you mention almost the same thing.

We are connected after all.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on January 24, 2010, 03:39:02 pm

Tonight, though, hearing it, I was happy, thinking of how odd it is that a 1975 recording by a British band should come to be widely recognized as a Brokie emblem among a weird and strangely assorted group of people living in several continents who have come together on a handful of websites for really mysterious reasons.


Very well put!

The whole thing is truly amazing, beyond comprehension...
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Brown Eyes on February 15, 2010, 03:16:43 pm
So, here's something that is tangentially Brokie-ish in a couple of ways.  To me, bull riding is always evocative of BBM... but this weekend it was especially the case.  A guy named Jordan Hupp won the event this weekend in Oklahoma on a bull named Buffalo Hump in the final, championship round with a 90.25 ride.

Jordan is the first cowboy from Wyoming to be on the major league tour for ages and ages (actually now there are two from Wyoming, but they both just joined the tour in the last few weeks at the same time).  Jordan's from Cheyenne, Wyoming and everyone at the PBR seems extra excited to have Wyoming represented so well at the moment.  Everyone immediately understands the cowboy history and significance of Wyoming.  He's actually on the tour as an alternate, so winning the event was a really impressive surprise.

And, anyone familiar with the Lonesome Dove series of books by Larry McMurtry will understand why Buffalo Hump is Brokie-ish.  This bull is also kind of a rising star in the PBR, so that's very neat.

It's a little spooky almost that a bull named after a Comanche chief (even if a fictious one) would do so well in Oklahoma, since long ago Oklahoma was entirely within Comanche territory.

Anyway, here's a pic of the winning ride. :)

<img src="http://www.divshare.com/img/midsize/10483917-cde.jpg" border="0" /> (http://www.divshare.com/download/10483917-cde)


Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Brown Eyes on March 06, 2010, 12:34:05 am

"He was thin, quick, attractive, with shifting lines about his shiny, brown eyes and a habit of fiercely biting at the skin around his fingernails." - Dorothy Parker


LOL, I thought that description sounded so Ennis-like!!  The context is totally different of course.  This is from Dorothy Parker's short story called "Big Blonde."  Lately, I've been reading an anthology of short stories by people who participated in the Algonquin Round table.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 20, 2011, 10:43:03 am
The Squid and the Whale and Thank You for Smoking are two movies that remind me of Brokeback Mountain. "Squid" is the first non-BBM movie I went to after seeing BBM in theaters. "Smoking" is the first non-BBM movie I enjoyed after seeing BBM.

So I guess I could probably extend a bit of honorary Brokie status to Aaron Eckhart, who starred in "Smoking" and in TDK. I don't think I can grant it to anybody in "Squid," though.
Maybe Billy Baldwin as Ivan the tennis coach was the most Brokiesque person in that movie. Or Jeff Daniels as the Patriarch, who reminded me a bit of Old Man Twist. I finally saw this last night. I thought it would hit too close to home so I stayed away from watching it until now. Was pleased with Jesse Eisenberg's role as the eldest son. Another slightly Brokish thing about it...it was sited in Brooklyn.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 03, 2011, 08:25:08 pm
I put up my nativity set today, and it seemed distinctly Brokeish to me. Of course, there were the shepherds. Behind the holy family was a donkey (damn mules) and a camel (so hungry he could eat one). There was a baby (Jenny), a madonna (Alma or Ma Twist) and some wise men...not sure who they might be. And the angel had a broken wing. It made me want to watch the movie again!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Brown Eyes on December 19, 2011, 12:14:42 pm

So, on my way into work this morning I had to put air in my tires.  I know how to do that, I have a good guage, I've done it before.  But, LOL, anytime I have to do this now after BBM I have a vague worry in the back of my mind that my tires may unexpectedly blow-up and kill me.  LOL, feels mildly ridiculous to see tires as so menacing.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on December 19, 2011, 12:35:28 pm
So, on my way into work this morning I had to put air in my tires.  I know how to do that, I have a good guage, I've done it before.  But, LOL, anytime I have to do this now after BBM I have a vague worry in the back of my mind that my tires may unexpectedly blow-up and kill me.  LOL, feels mildly ridiculous to see tires as so menacing.

I saw a TV news report on this once. It actually does happen! However, I think it's more when you're working on a tire in a garage. I'm sure it's pretty rare for people just adding air at the gas station.

Not to add to the stress of a gas-station visit, but you're probably more at risk of causing an explosion from a static electricity spark while filling the tank.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 19, 2011, 12:48:34 pm
So, on my way into work this morning I had to put air in my tires.  I know how to do that, I have a good guage, I've done it before.  But, LOL, anytime I have to do this now after BBM I have a vague worry in the back of my mind that my tires may unexpectedly blow-up and kill me.  LOL, feels mildly ridiculous to see tires as so menacing.

Heh. I used to worry about that happening long before I'd ever heard of BBM.  :-\
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Meryl on January 10, 2012, 10:41:56 pm
In a Japanese department store.   :laugh:


(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/merylmarie/Catchall/Fuckinsale.jpg)

http://gawker.com/5874304/japanese-department-store-may-want-to-look-up-the-word-fucking
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 10, 2012, 11:50:57 pm
So, on my way into work this morning I had to put air in my tires.  I know how to do that, I have a good guage, I've done it before.  But, LOL, anytime I have to do this now after BBM I have a vague worry in the back of my mind that my tires may unexpectedly blow-up and kill me.  LOL, feels mildly ridiculous to see tires as so menacing.



Friend, remember when we had that slow leak in Crazy Woman Canyon?
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on January 11, 2012, 12:10:41 am
In a Japanese department store.   :laugh:


(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/merylmarie/Catchall/Fuckinsale.jpg)

http://gawker.com/5874304/japanese-department-store-may-want-to-look-up-the-word-fucking


 :laugh:

The dropped G is an especially good touch.




Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Marge_Innavera on January 11, 2012, 11:25:04 am
I put up my nativity set today, and it seemed distinctly Brokeish to me. Of course, there were the shepherds. Behind the holy family was a donkey (damn mules) and a camel (so hungry he could eat one). There was a baby (Jenny), a madonna (Alma or Ma Twist) and some wise men...not sure who they might be. And the angel had a broken wing. It made me want to watch the movie again!

Maybe James Schamus, Larry McMurtry and Ang Lee?   ;)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on January 11, 2012, 12:27:31 pm
Maybe James Schamus, Larry McMurtry and Ang Lee?   ;)

Good one. But then Annie Proulx and Diana Ossana should share the Virgin Mary role.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Penthesilea on May 02, 2012, 12:41:02 pm
I think we haven't this on the thread yet:

The Focus Features logo!
Every time I see it, it gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling. I connect it so strongly with BBM and everything that came with it, it's even a little bit of a letdown if another movies follows it. :laugh:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7d-IW33V0aM/T6FXbAtIbmI/AAAAAAAABRU/mmxbkrPM8AI/s800/focus-features-logo.jpg)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Penthesilea on May 02, 2012, 12:52:37 pm
Guess what?
I'm rereading the thread, and on page 6 I found the following, posted by myself even. :laugh:



Somehow this thought made me smile.


Oh, and it reminds me of Focus Features, another thing that has become Brokie-ish. Every time I see the Focus logo, I expect to see BBM :).


(http://www.icouple.sg/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Focus_Features.jpg)


Guess I had a little senior moment. ;D
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Lynne on May 02, 2012, 01:00:08 pm
I think we haven't this on the thread yet:

The Focus Features logo!
Every time I see it, it gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling. I connect it so strongly with BBM and everything that came with it, it's even a little bit of a letdown if another movies follows it. :laugh:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7d-IW33V0aM/T6FXbAtIbmI/AAAAAAAABRU/mmxbkrPM8AI/s800/focus-features-logo.jpg)

You're copying me, Chrissi! I just posted elsewhere - before I saw this - about the Focus logo giving me warm fuzzies!

 :P
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on May 02, 2012, 01:00:22 pm

 :laugh:

The dropped G is an especially good touch.

    That is hi larious.. I wonder if it is on purpose, and what they are selling for 20% off?   Hee, hee.   Maybe its fucking
that they are selling?  My goodness...lol
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Penthesilea on May 02, 2012, 01:04:40 pm
You're copying me, Chrissi! I just posted elsewhere - before I saw this - about the Focus logo giving me warm fuzzies!

 :P


Great minds! :D
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Monika on May 02, 2012, 03:40:56 pm
I think we haven't this on the thread yet:

The Focus Features logo!
Every time I see it, it gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling. I connect it so strongly with BBM and everything that came with it, it's even a little bit of a letdown if another movies follows it. :laugh:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7d-IW33V0aM/T6FXbAtIbmI/AAAAAAAABRU/mmxbkrPM8AI/s800/focus-features-logo.jpg)
Oh boy yeah - warm and fuzzy and I can hear the music that goes with it.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Lynne on May 02, 2012, 04:05:17 pm
Oh boy yeah - warm and fuzzy and I can hear the music that goes with it.

Definitely.  Then the River Road Entertainment opening...

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmvMmhE8Flw[/youtube]

 :D
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Katie77 on May 03, 2012, 03:24:57 am
Thought it was just me, that got that brokie magic feeling when I see the Focus Features opening.....but once again, now realize, its just part of the whole phenomena that makes us Brokies who we are, and how we feel.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Penthesilea on May 03, 2012, 01:53:29 pm
Many things still remind me of BBM. I've just started a book "The 100-Year-Old Man Who Climbed Out the Window and Disappeared" and in passing it mentions a(nother) man who 'was only 39 years old' when he died, and the main character wonders why when he reads the headstone.

Doesn't make the whole book Brokieish of course, but still, a seemingly toss-away sentence gets me right back to our boys.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on May 03, 2012, 01:54:05 pm
Thought it was just me, that got that brokie magic feeling when I see the Focus Features opening.....but once again, now realize, its just part of the whole phenomena that makes us Brokies who we are, and how we feel.

Yep.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on May 03, 2012, 02:07:42 pm
Thought it was just me, that got that brokie magic feeling when I see the Focus Features opening.....but once again, now realize, its just part of the whole phenomena that makes us Brokies who we are, and how we feel.

I second that!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Meryl on June 01, 2012, 09:00:24 pm

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/merylmarie/Cats/Catherdingcartoon.jpg)


After the infamous hail storm, the Basques began to have increasingly interesting experiences...
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 25, 2012, 01:14:30 pm
Thought it was just me, that got that brokie magic feeling when I see the Focus Features opening.....but once again, now realize, its just part of the whole phenomena that makes us Brokies who we are, and how we feel.

The thing I love about the Focus Features opening is the two colors they use...Jack Blue and Ennis Tan. Also the way the round orbs are out of focus and then they come into sharp focus, just as Ennis does in the lake scene when he fights with Jack.

Today in the shower I was thinking to myself and thought, "What does that have to do with the price of china in Texas?" Seemed kind of a Brokieish thing to say.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on July 25, 2012, 03:31:35 pm
I think I'll win the prize for the most ridiculous answer here.

 :laugh:

Barbara Streisand.

Allow me to explain.

Barbara Streisand was in the movie "On A Clear Day You Can See Forever"  (1970), it's some sort of romantic comedy, I've never seen it, but knew of it.

One of the trailers that played during Brokeback was "On A Clear Day", (2005) a Focus Features film about Frank Redmond, a man who swims the English Channel.

On DCF  as Brokeback was nearing the end of its run, we were discussing what we would miss when the movie is out of the theaters.  I was reading the thread at work, and someone posted that one thing they would NOT miss was the trailer for "On A Clear Day".  I scrolled down, and found the following reply:

" 'On a Clear Day?'....Is that the film where Barbara Streisand swims the English Channel?"

I laughed so hard that people came over to ask what was so funny, and from that day on, anytime I hear "On A Clear Day", or someone mentions Barbara Streisand, that memory pops in my head.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 25, 2012, 03:40:04 pm
" 'On a Clear Day?'....Is that the film where Barbara Streisand swims the English Channel?"

 :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 25, 2012, 03:45:44 pm
Oh, yes I had that trailer practically memorized, and everyone in it had thick Scottish accents. When it started, I was always scrambling for the remote so I could fast forward through the trailers to get to the good stuff!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on September 28, 2012, 01:22:26 am



Meanwhile....



http://nymag.com/thecut/2012/09/sheep-in-bryant-park-amuses-pedestrians-dog.html


Flock of Sheep in Bryant Park
Amuses Pedestrians,
Confuses a Dog

By Charlotte Cowles
Yesterday at 5:57 PM

 
(http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2012/09/27/27-sheep-central-park-152843627.o.jpg/a_4x-horizontal.jpg)


As part of Prince Charles's Campaign for Wool, which comes to the U.S. for the first time this year, a flock of sheep was herded into Bryant Park this morning, where they stood in a glass pen, munched hay, and baa'd while onlookers (and at least one confused dog) observed them. Sadly, Prince Charles was not in attendance to marvel at the wool-filled fountain or the sofas upholstered with the British flag.
 

A meeting of the minds:


(http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2012/09/27/27-sheep-central-park-152843629.o.jpg/a_3x-horizontal.jpg)



Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Meryl on September 28, 2012, 11:08:17 am
 ;D  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on September 28, 2012, 02:40:44 pm
Yes, it's getting to be the time of year when they bring the sheep down and parade them thru town. But Prince Charles as a shepherd? I can see that!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on September 29, 2012, 04:31:27 am
There must be a pun in there somewhere....
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 17, 2012, 08:47:49 am
Yep, Lynne, we had a thread about it.

OK, so here's my list (for now)... and clearly many of these have already been mentioned by others.

LOL, K, I like that you mentioned fish tacos in your first post... because that's the first thing that springs to mind for me.

Some of these are more obvious than others (and LOL, I'm already realizing that this list is coming out stream-of-consciousness style  ;D ):


coffee
whiskey
cherries (these first 3 may be too obvious)
fish tacos
red velvet cake
New York/ Brooklyn
Seattle
Denver/Colorado
Wyoming - especially Cheyenne
fried pickles
Elks lodges
pick up trucks
Batman (anything having to do with Batman now for me...)
the Lonesome Dove series of books and the mini-series
internet forums
Striped Wall
imdb
Google Images
dive bars
PBR stuff (or any rodeo, bull riding stuff)
western gear
trailer parks
feathers
yes, and like Sason said... usage of words like "friend" and "Bud"

more later probably...


Also, here's the link to the thread about images that are somehow "obliquely" related to BBM or BetterMost: http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,27106.0.html (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,27106.0.html)



Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Meryl on October 17, 2012, 12:52:18 pm


(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/merylmarie/Barack-Obama-Hug-and-Pick-Up-Florida.gif)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Meryl on October 17, 2012, 01:05:41 pm


(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/merylmarie/Catchall/BorderCollieCartoon.gif)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Meryl on October 24, 2012, 01:03:09 am

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/merylmarie/Catchall/doghug.jpg)

Son of a bitch, son of a bitch
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on October 26, 2012, 02:14:23 pm
Aww....that's cute.

And brokieish. They're hugging, but still separated.  :(
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Kelda on October 26, 2012, 03:29:19 pm
(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/merylmarie/Catchall/doghug.jpg)

Son of a bitch, son of a bitch
Brilliant Meryl!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Penthesilea on January 11, 2013, 11:24:09 am

(http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/Penthesilea09/Sonstige/427703_445111545542296_1029338680_n_zps542f4a1f.jpg)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Penthesilea on January 11, 2013, 12:45:40 pm
Guess what? I found an admittedly very loose connection to the above poster! :)

Leslie asked from when it may be, which set me off to google.
I found this page (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:See_America,_Welcome_to_Montana,_WPA_poster,_ca._1937.jpg) on Wikimedia saying it's from ca. 1937 and was a work done for the WPA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_Progress_Administration) under the New Deal.

And this, which is of course the Riverton post office mural, is also a New Deal piece of art (from 1942).

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/Penthesilea06/Roundup2008/CIMG1242.jpg)


Ta-da!  ;D




ETA: Oh my, once you start googling, you can really get lost! ::)
Slightly OT:

Did you know that Ennis and Jack had a second job as excavators? ;)
Down in Kemmerer, WY. Near Sage, where Ennis came from.


(http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/Penthesilea09/Sonstige/kemmere3_zps4ac47b02.jpg)

(http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/Penthesilea09/Sonstige/2035057293_ddf95c941b_z_zpsf4d96bc8.jpg)
Mural in the post office of Kemmerer, WY

Sorry for the OT.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on January 12, 2013, 12:21:11 pm
Wow, how could the Riverton PO artist have possibly known, back in 1942, that Jake and Heath would be cast in those roles, and that the costume designer would put them in black and tan hats?  ;D

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on January 13, 2013, 06:15:01 am
Great finds and connections, Chrissi!

They're all beautiful. And, yes, somehow brokieish, all three of them.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: delalluvia on February 01, 2013, 01:14:22 am
Just saw "World's Funniest Animal Commercials" on Tru TV and the number 1 funniest animal commercial is...







The French commercial for Canal+ where two women are in a cafe and one is telling her friend about a wonderful movie she saw "Brokeback Mountain".  Her friend - thinking of Disney's Space Mountain - envisions the cowboys at an amusement park...with sheep...and when told "they fall in love" (she envisions the cowboys falling in love with sheep)...and then there's a horrible accident...it's so sad...

Funny  :laugh:

http://www.veryfunnyads.com/?oid=25407#



Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on December 04, 2013, 10:52:56 pm
I went through this whole thread, and I can't believe no one said this.


"Far Away" by Nickelback always reminds me of BBM.  I saw the fan video before the song was released as a single.  When it was finally released and a 'real' video was made, every time it played on TV, my head would snap around, expecting to see Jack and Ennis on the TV.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-oZ1Ijn-9c[/youtube]
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 04, 2013, 11:13:01 pm
You are right, friend. That song does work!

In my readings tonight I encountered something very Brokeish. My permaculture handbook described the notion of "transhumance" or herds and herders moving uphill and transferring nutrients uphill.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Penthesilea on December 05, 2013, 01:49:19 am
I went through this whole thread, and I can't believe no one said this.
"Far Away" by Nickelback always reminds me of BBM


We have an extra thread for A song that makes me think of Brokeback Mountain (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,903.0.html). I'm sure it's in there. And there are some other BBM-music dedicated threads. I think Far Away is in most of them.
I remember the days when I barely could listen to the song without tearing up. Even worse was Goodbye my Lover by James Blunt. I had them both on a CD in my car, but no way I could listen to the James Blunt song while driving; I always skipped it.
Like you, the BBM videos made to both songs would play immediately in my head when hearing the first notes.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on December 05, 2013, 09:04:32 am
You are right, friend. That song does work!

We have an extra thread for A song that makes me think of Brokeback Mountain (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,903.0.html). I'm sure it's in there. And there are some other BBM-music dedicated threads. I think Far Away is in most of them.  I remember the days when I barely could listen to the song without tearing up.

When I went to the Texas BBQ I was the one who supplied the music for the event, I had taken a bunch of requests from people beforehand so I would have what people wanted to hear.  I had quite a few requests for "Far Away".
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 30, 2014, 09:30:10 pm
The more quotes I see from the late James Garner, the more I think he deserves the title "Brokieish".
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on August 01, 2014, 12:37:28 am
The more quotes I see from the late James Garner, the more I think he deserves the title "Brokieish".

Totally with you there, FRiend! I've always liked James Garner, and the part of me that likes him, though not identical to the part of me that likes Brokeback Mountain, does overlap.

Great Throwback Thursday thread!

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 11, 2015, 03:44:54 pm
Sacajawea is buried in Fort Washakie in the Wind River Valley of Wyoming. I suppose that's the extent of her Brokie connection. Or is it?

http://www.yellowstonepark.com/2014/05/sacajawea-secret-gravesite/ (http://www.yellowstonepark.com/2014/05/sacajawea-secret-gravesite/)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on March 12, 2015, 08:47:24 am
Or is it?

http://www.yellowstonepark.com/2014/05/sacajawea-secret-gravesite/ (http://www.yellowstonepark.com/2014/05/sacajawea-secret-gravesite/)

You fixin' to tell us sumthin', FRiend Lee?  ;)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 18, 2015, 07:11:18 pm
The late Troy Donahue is Brokieish.

I always liked him better than Tab Hunter, maybe because he actually made a cavalry movie, A Distant Trumpet.

And get a load of the name of one of the screenwriters for A Distant Trumpet!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Distant_Trumpet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Distant_Trumpet)

Who knew?  ;D

And that's why Troy Donahue is Brokieish!

 ;D
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on August 18, 2015, 07:56:57 pm
*sings*

And as for you, Troy Donahue
I know what you wanna do!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 19, 2015, 09:16:10 am
*sings*

And as for you, Troy Donahue
I know what you wanna do!


 ???
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on August 19, 2015, 05:41:42 pm
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVrBl368VGY[/youtube]

Making fun of Sandy (Oliva Newton John) in Grease
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 19, 2015, 08:58:54 pm
Making fun of Sandy (Oliva Newton John) in Grease

Never saw it.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 19, 2015, 10:15:59 pm
Wasn't that Stockard Channing singing in that song? It was hilarious! Thanks, Chuck, for the blast from the past!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on August 20, 2015, 08:36:41 am
Wasn't that Stockard Channing singing in that song? It was hilarious! Thanks, Chuck, for the blast from the past!

Yup, that was her!  She sings one of my faves from that movie, and my mom's fave as well, "There Are Worse Things I Could Do".
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 06, 2015, 11:11:36 am
Baxter Black, cowboy poet, is someone not connected to BBM, who is somehow kind of Brokieish. In this video, he reads two poems, including "Living on the Edge" which conjures up Ennis and Jack perfectly.

https://www.facebook.com/uarizona/videos/10153180022493310/ (https://www.facebook.com/uarizona/videos/10153180022493310/)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on October 08, 2015, 02:10:00 pm
I'll have to check these out this weekend.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: dontinterrupt on October 23, 2015, 09:10:32 pm

Here are three I can think of: the actor Joseph Gordon-Levitt, the song "Wish You Were Here" by Pink Floyd, and fish tacos.



How did I NOT SEE THIS THREAD BEFORE?! And yeah, strangely enough (or not?), Joseph Gordon-Levitt is on my "somewhat brokeish" list too  :) not sure what it is, to me he kind of looks like Jack and Ennis' son would look like if they could have one. Am I a freak or what?
Btw long time no see y'all :)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on October 29, 2015, 12:21:59 pm
I always thought that JGL bore a resemblance to Heath.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 29, 2015, 01:59:11 pm
I always thought that JGL bore a resemblance to Heath.

Yeah, now that you mention it.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on October 29, 2015, 02:40:34 pm
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/11200000/H-Ledger-and-J-Levitt-heath-ledger-11249413-1111-751.jpg)

(https://qph.is.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6c2be23850f648d9365231073199f796?convert_to_webp=true)

(http://www.fanphobia.net/uploads/actors_3/71574/2100691582_joseph_gordon_levitt_is_look_like_heath_ledger.jpg)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: southendmd on October 29, 2015, 02:41:19 pm
I always thought that JGL bore a resemblance to Heath.

(http://d3dytsf4vrjn5x.cloudfront.net/1464/300x250/ae4b277e7d6a298936181ce465ac3329.jpg)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 29, 2015, 02:54:57 pm
Well, I guess we know who gets to do the biopic.

(http://d3dytsf4vrjn5x.cloudfront.net/1464/300x250/ae4b277e7d6a298936181ce465ac3329.jpg)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on October 29, 2015, 03:05:34 pm
(http://d3dytsf4vrjn5x.cloudfront.net/1464/300x250/ae4b277e7d6a298936181ce465ac3329.jpg)

How strange - I can't see the picture on here. Not even a red cross.

Had to copy the link and paste it into the browser to see it.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 29, 2015, 03:58:02 pm
The late Troy Donahue is Brokieish.

I always liked him better than Tab Hunter, maybe because he actually made a cavalry movie, A Distant Trumpet.

And get a load of the name of one of the screenwriters for A Distant Trumpet!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Distant_Trumpet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Distant_Trumpet)
Peter Bogdonavich opined that the cast and screenwriter were talentless...Just what I would expect from Mr. Twist!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on October 29, 2015, 10:19:07 pm
Wow, great HL/JGL pairings, you guys!

I was always sorry they never got to play brothers in a movie. But they were in something together, right? (Too lazy to google it.)

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 29, 2015, 10:27:57 pm
Googled, and apparently they were both in "10 Things I Hate about You"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0147800/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0147800/)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on October 30, 2015, 11:18:34 am
and in my opinion, JGL gets sexier as he ages.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 30, 2015, 11:46:26 am
and in my opinion, JGL gets sexier as he ages.

Unfortunately, whenever I think of him, I "see" the kid from Third Rock from the Sun.  :-\
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on October 31, 2015, 02:21:24 pm
Not an issue I have.  I think because I only watched sporadically, and I don't like guys with long hair, so I can block it out. LOL
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: dontinterrupt on November 01, 2015, 11:11:48 am
Nice one, CellarDweller! Though I still see a little Jake there- in that smile and in the hair... Wishful thinking most likely.
Title: MORE than Brokieish: Canadian Farmer's Sheep AreMastersOfDisguise in Snowy Field
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on November 12, 2015, 09:21:09 pm

Click for video:
http://edit.weather.com/science/nature/news/500-sheep-hide-from-owner-in-canada


Canadian Farmer's Sheep Are
Masters of Disguise in Snowy Field

500 'invisible' sheep are captured in one photo

Published Nov 10 2015 01:53 PM EST
weather.com (http://weather.com)

 
(http://dsx.weather.com//util/image/w/sheep.jpg?v=ap&w=980&h=551&api=7db9fe61-7414-47b5-9871-e17d87b8b6a0)


Liezel Kennedy became a bit of an internet sensation over the weekend after she tweeted a photo of a seemingly empty snowy field on her Saskatchewan farm recently, captioned "Could hardly find my sheep this morning!"

There are more than 500 sheep in the photo, but their dirty-brown wool blends in perfectly with the browns, tans and whites of a winter field.

Kennedy, who told weather.com that she's been raising sheep for five years, says it's not unusual for the sheep to be hidden behind a hill or a fold in the landscape on her 640-acre farm, "but it's not a regular occurrence for them to blend in THAT well!"

It does happen though. After online interest in her original tweet ramped up, Kennedy posted several more photos of her fields in the spring and summer and her sheep are just as invisible, real masters of disguise in all seasons.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTDismJUsAAIWkm.jpg:small)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTDisnrVEAAF4eA.jpg:small)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/476943886003478528/rBzcuGSB_normal.jpeg)Liezel Kennedy @pilgrimfarms
we have the same problem in summer and Spring... pic.twitter.com/FmvcHdapmb
9:40 AM - 5 Nov 2015




"In summer we have cross fences to rotate them through the grass but in winter we take those down," Kennedy said. "We check on them twice a day to check for sick animals, feed the guardian dogs, put out salt and mineral, check water, etc."

While the sheep are master's of disguise, Kennedy has other livestock who are masters of escape. Pilgirm Farms stocks, sheep, cattle, horses and goats, and it's the goats you really have to keep an eye on.

"The goats ... are escape artists and find the tiniest gap in the fence," Kennedy told weather.com. "They always come back though once they've checked out the greener grass on the other side."


Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on November 12, 2015, 09:44:45 pm
the sheep!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 12, 2015, 10:37:14 pm
There are sheep in that photo? Could have fooled me!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 14, 2015, 04:27:34 pm
Paris is somehow Brokieish, but I can't exactly tell you why.  :'(
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Meryl on December 10, 2015, 12:51:13 pm
Film director Andrew Haigh is Brokieish.

Last week I saw a screening of his new movie, 45 Years, with Charlotte Rampling and Tom Courtenay.  As the movie progressed, I kept getting this feeling of familiarity, though I hadn't seen any of his work. Then I realized this guy has a lot in common with Ang Lee, in that he's very visual and introspective, and often the situation the characters are in is reflected in their surroundings. There are lots of things we Brokies could riff on, believe me. The topper? All through the film, they're emotionally involved in an incident that took place in the Alps 50 years earlier. In the last scene, when the couple is celebrating their 45th anniversary in a rented hall with friends, right there on the wall is a large painting of mountains.

I also learned that Haigh directed what's become an iconic gay movie in 2011: Weekend. I think I'll have to check it out.  Meanwhile, I recommend you all check out 45 Years.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on January 08, 2016, 08:26:40 pm
http://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2016/01/photos-of-the-week-123-18/423348/
(http://www.kvvp.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/atlantic_logo1.jpg)
Photos of the Week: ALAN TAYLOR
1/3-1/8-2016 3:00 PM ET


Brokeback Edition!


Don't those look like tents? They are kites--for kite surfing--in Egypt!
(http://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/01/photos-of-the-week-123-18/w26_AP762998384985/main_900.jpg?1452282926)
A Husky puppy stands near kites for kite surfing by the shore in Abu Galoum, South Sinai, Egypt, on January 2, 2016.
Nariman El-Mofty / AP



(http://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/01/photos-of-the-week-123-18/w27_AP846267458670/main_900.jpg?1452282926)
A deer runs in the snow near Egerag, Hungary, on January 7, 2016.
Tamas Soki / MTI via AP



(http://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/01/photos-of-the-week-123-18/w28_RTX21396/main_900.jpg?1452282926)
A local resident rests on a bench as Mount Bromo volcano erupts in the background in Ngadisari, Probolinggo, East Java, Indonesia, on January 5, 2016.
Darren Whiteside / Reuters


And isn't this image a bit like the tent scene?
(http://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/01/photos-of-the-week-123-18/w29_RTX21HJ4/main_900.jpg?1452282926)
A worker kneels next to a part of a carnival float at the Mocidade Independente Samba school, in preparation for the annual carnival parade, in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on January 7, 2016.
Pilar Olivares / Reuters



(http://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/01/photos-of-the-week-123-18/w30_RTX21HKR/main_900.jpg?1452282926)
Snow is seen on the San Gorgonio Mountains behind a windmill farm in Palm Springs, California, on January 7, 2016.
Sam Mircovich / Reuters



(http://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/01/photos-of-the-week-123-18/w31_503650538/main_900.jpg?1452282926)
Migrants and refugees queue to board a train under heavy rain at a train station in the southern Serbian town of Presevo on January 6, 2016. The International Organization for Migration said on January 5 that 1,004,356 migrants and refugees reached Europe in 2015, but 3,771 died while crossing the Mediterranean.
Armend Nimani / AFP / Getty




(http://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/01/photos-of-the-week-123-18/w35_RTX2149B/main_900.jpg?1452282926)
A mute swan in a lake as the temperature dropped to around minus 23 degrees Celsius (minus 9.4 degrees Fahrenheit) on the outskirts of Minsk, Belarus, on January 5, 2016.
Vasily Fedosenko /  Reuters




Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 08, 2016, 10:59:17 pm
http://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2016/01/photos-of-the-week-123-18/423348/
(http://www.kvvp.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/atlantic_logo1.jpg)
Photos of the Week: ALAN TAYLOR
1/3-1/8-2016 3:00 PM ET


Brokeback Edition!


Don't those look like tents? They are kites--for kite surfing--in Egypt!
(http://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/01/photos-of-the-week-123-18/w26_AP762998384985/main_900.jpg?1452282926)
A Husky puppy stands near kites for kite surfing by the shore in Abu Galoum, South Sinai, Egypt, on January 2, 2016.
Nariman El-Mofty / AP

Tent don't look right. ...
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Meryl on January 09, 2016, 03:00:25 pm
Beautiful photos, John!  Good catch with the tents and the tent scene pose.  8)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on January 09, 2016, 09:12:21 pm
kites smell like cat piss, or worse.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on January 22, 2016, 10:38:29 am
Beautiful photos, John! And nice eye for catching the Brokieishness of such disparate scenes. I especially like the connection in the one of the guy on the bench.

(I'll admit I'm a bit confused by the swan connection  ???. Can anyone enlighten me?)



Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 22, 2016, 11:46:04 am
I also learned that Haigh directed what's become an iconic gay movie in 2011: Weekend. I think I'll have to check it out.  Meanwhile, I recommend you all check out 45 Years.

Will definitely put that on my "must-see" list, friend!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on January 23, 2016, 12:41:24 pm
Beautiful photos, John! And nice eye for catching the Brokieishness of such disparate scenes. I especially like the connection in the one of the guy on the bench.

(I'll admit I'm a bit confused by the swan connection  ???. Can anyone enlighten me?)



Thanks, Katherine!

Re the swan--

I thought both boys were young, innocent, beautiful, vulnerable. Too anthropomorphic I'm sure, but--I thought Heath/Ennis kept his head low like that
(of course the swan is probably just scratching its neck)--

 :)



(http://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/01/photos-of-the-week-123-18/w35_RTX2149B/main_900.jpg?1452282926)
A mute swan in a lake as the temperature dropped to around minus 23 degrees Celsius (minus 9.4 degrees Fahrenheit) on the outskirts
of Minsk, Belarus, on January 5, 2016.
Vasily Fedosenko /  Reuters

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on January 23, 2016, 01:31:35 pm

I thought both boys were young, innocent, beautiful, vulnerable. Too anthropomorphic I'm sure, but--I thought Heath/Ennis kept his head low like that


OK, yup, I can see it.  :D  Thanks for the explanation!


Title: Re: MORE than Brokieish: Canadian Farmer's Sheep AreMastersOfDisguise in Snowy Field
Post by: Sophia on January 24, 2016, 06:52:27 pm
Click for video:
http://edit.weather.com/science/nature/news/500-sheep-hide-from-owner-in-canada


Canadian Farmer's Sheep Are
Masters of Disguise in Snowy Field

500 'invisible' sheep are captured in one photo

Published Nov 10 2015 01:53 PM EST
weather.com (http://weather.com)

 
After intense search I manage to spot one sheep. 499 to go. : ) Thanks John for sharing. Hilarious.
(http://dsx.weather.com//util/image/w/sheep.jpg?v=ap&w=980&h=551&api=7db9fe61-7414-47b5-9871-e17d87b8b6a0)


Liezel Kennedy became a bit of an internet sensation over the weekend after she tweeted a photo of a seemingly empty snowy field on her Saskatchewan farm recently, captioned "Could hardly find my sheep this morning!"

There are more than 500 sheep in the photo, but their dirty-brown wool blends in perfectly with the browns, tans and whites of a winter field.

Kennedy, who told weather.com that she's been raising sheep for five years, says it's not unusual for the sheep to be hidden behind a hill or a fold in the landscape on her 640-acre farm, "but it's not a regular occurrence for them to blend in THAT well!"

It does happen though. After online interest in her original tweet ramped up, Kennedy posted several more photos of her fields in the spring and summer and her sheep are just as invisible, real masters of disguise in all seasons.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTDismJUsAAIWkm.jpg:small)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTDisnrVEAAF4eA.jpg:small)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/476943886003478528/rBzcuGSB_normal.jpeg)Liezel Kennedy @pilgrimfarms
we have the same problem in summer and Spring... pic.twitter.com/FmvcHdapmb
9:40 AM - 5 Nov 2015




"In summer we have cross fences to rotate them through the grass but in winter we take those down," Kennedy said. "We check on them twice a day to check for sick animals, feed the guardian dogs, put out salt and mineral, check water, etc."

While the sheep are master's of disguise, Kennedy has other livestock who are masters of escape. Pilgirm Farms stocks, sheep, cattle, horses and goats, and it's the goats you really have to keep an eye on.

"The goats ... are escape artists and find the tiniest gap in the fence," Kennedy told weather.com. "They always come back though once they've checked out the greener grass on the other side."



Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sophia on January 25, 2016, 02:19:25 am
Seems like my sentences completly disappeard. Spooky. What I meant to say was.. (After intense searching last Night I did find one sheep. I Only got 499 to go.)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on January 25, 2016, 03:02:07 am
Seems like my sentences completly disappeard. Spooky. What I meant to say was.. (After intense searching last Night I did find one sheep. I Only got 499 to go.)


Like the 499 sheep, your original comment it still there, Sophia--but well hidden--take a good look!!!   ;) ;D
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on January 25, 2016, 09:02:50 am
Like the 499 sheep, your original comment it still there, Sophia--but well hidden--take a good look!!!   ;) ;D


lol
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Meryl on January 27, 2016, 12:09:55 pm
Speaking of sheep -

Where was this guy and his horn when Jack & Ennis needed him?  ;D

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/crafty-sheep-caught-wrong-field-10791802#ICID=FB-Wales-main
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on January 27, 2016, 05:06:48 pm
LOL!   

If he'd shouted in Spanish, he would have scared all them Chilean sheep right off!!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Meryl on January 27, 2016, 09:59:56 pm
LOL!   

If he'd shouted in Spanish, he would have scared all them Chilean sheep right off!!!  :laugh:

You bet! :D
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on January 28, 2016, 09:43:57 am
(https://norberthaupt.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/i-love-you.jpg)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Sason on January 28, 2016, 06:06:25 pm
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on January 29, 2016, 09:26:01 am
;)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on February 06, 2016, 11:15:00 am
(http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/behold/2016/02/Crewdson/basement.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg)
http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2016/02/05/gregory_crewdson_s_photos_cathedral_of_the_pines.html

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Penthesilea on February 07, 2016, 05:20:22 am
(http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/behold/2016/02/Crewdson/basement.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg)
http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2016/02/05/gregory_crewdson_s_photos_cathedral_of_the_pines.html




Oh wow! That's Ennis. With another Cassie. And he's still not much fun, totally not caring, immersed in wistful thoughts and probably rather wishing she'd be gone.

Almost all of the photos are Brokieish. The one you posted and the one with the woman (Alma!) at the kitchen-sink stand out as the most Brokieish to me.
The interior design of the indoor photos could be taken right out of our movie. Everything looks cheap, old and trailer-ish. The mood is bleak and the people look so very damned lonely, even when they're in company. I think it's the loneliness more than anything that makes the photos Brokieish.

Another thing the photos have in common with BBM is that they are photographs but look like paintings. Just like the interior scenes of the Twist farm look like (Vermeer) paintings.

Great find, Katherine! :)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on February 07, 2016, 12:46:56 pm

http://www.slate.com/articles/video/video/2016/01/boston_dynamics_robotic_mule_projected_scrapped_over_noise_concerns_video.html

Dumbass Robot!  :D


(http://cdn.gifbay.com/2013/10/this_is_bigdog_a_robot_made_by_bostondynamics-95225.gif)



Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Meryl on February 07, 2016, 03:16:20 pm
(http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/behold/2016/02/Crewdson/basement.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg)
http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2016/02/05/gregory_crewdson_s_photos_cathedral_of_the_pines.html

I love all of these photos! Very Brokieish indeed. I think Chrissy is right that what ties them together most is the loneliness of the subjects. The one of the woman at the sink looks like a blending of Ma Twist and Alma. The furnishings remind me of growing up in our town in Ohio, too.

I'm glad Chrissy replied, because, although I got an email notifying me of your post, Katherine, it was nowhere to be seen. Turns out I had you on ignore. I have absolutely no idea how that happened!  ???
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Meryl on February 07, 2016, 03:20:23 pm
http://www.slate.com/articles/video/video/2016/01/boston_dynamics_robotic_mule_projected_scrapped_over_noise_concerns_video.html

Dumbass Robot!  :D
(http://cdn.gifbay.com/2013/10/this_is_bigdog_a_robot_made_by_bostondynamics-95225.gif)

Ugly bugger!  Anyway, I guess noise, like money, is a good point.  ;)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 07, 2016, 04:56:43 pm

Oh wow! That's Ennis. With another Cassie. And he's still not much fun, totally not caring, immersed in wistful thoughts and probably rather wishing she'd be gone.

Almost all of the photos are Brokieish. The one you posted and the one with the woman (Alma!) at the kitchen-sink stand out as the most Brokieish to me.
The interior design of the indoor photos could be taken right out of our movie. Everything looks cheap, old and trailer-ish. The mood is bleak and the people look so very damned lonely, even when they're in company. I think it's the loneliness more than anything that makes the photos Brokieish.

Another thing the photos have in common with BBM is that they are photographs but look like paintings. Just like the interior scenes of the Twist farm look like (Vermeer) paintings.

Great find, Katherine! :)

Brokieish or not, that room is so 1970s!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on February 08, 2016, 01:33:45 am

Oh wow! That's Ennis. With another Cassie. And he's still not much fun, totally not caring, immersed in wistful thoughts and probably rather wishing she'd be gone.

Almost all of the photos are Brokieish. The one you posted and the one with the woman (Alma!) at the kitchen-sink stand out as the most Brokieish to me.
The interior design of the indoor photos could be taken right out of our movie. Everything looks cheap, old and trailer-ish. The mood is bleak and the people look so very damned lonely, even when they're in company. I think it's the loneliness more than anything that makes the photos Brokieish.

Another thing the photos have in common with BBM is that they are photographs but look like paintings. Just like the interior scenes of the Twist farm look like (Vermeer) paintings.

Great find, Katherine! :)

Thanks, Chrissi! And those are good points, both of the photo/painting look and of the Vermeer aspect to the Twist farm.

In particular, this reminded me of the night Ennis didn't want to go out with the fire and brimstone crowd.

I also think the prints on the wall, especially the mountainous one above New Cassie on the couch, are Brokieish.




I'm glad Chrissy replied, because, although I got an email notifying me of your post, Katherine, it was nowhere to be seen. Turns out I had you on ignore. I have absolutely no idea how that happened!  ???

Oh no! Just think of all the words of wisdom you might have missed!  :P   :-X   :laugh:



Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on February 08, 2016, 09:39:54 am
they need to wise up and go to the church social
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on February 08, 2016, 09:57:34 am
they need to wise up and go to the church social

 :laugh:

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 08, 2016, 10:22:46 am
they need to wise up and go to the church social

If it's a fire and brimstone crowd, they're probably better off staying home and watching ME-TV.  ;D
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on February 09, 2016, 09:29:33 am
ah, the memories are coming back.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 10, 2016, 10:26:51 am
The 1966 TV movie Scalplock is somehow Brokieish. I watched this last night on a DVD sent to me by Friend OCD. (It doesn't have anything to do with scalping. It was the pilot for the railroad-themed Western TV series The Iron Horse, and Scalplock was the name of a town on the Buffalo Pass, Scalplock & Defiance Railroad.) Why is this old TV movie somehow Brokieish? Because it has a Basque sheepherder in it!  ;D
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on March 10, 2016, 08:01:12 pm
*sings*

because it's all about the basque
about the basque
no soup now!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 12, 2016, 12:59:38 am
Jeff Buckley's version of Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" seems very Brokieish to me. . .what do you think?

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8AWFf7EAc4)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on November 12, 2016, 10:51:48 am
Agreed about the song, but I'd lean toward the Rufus Wainwright version, partly for Brokieish reasons (as you know, Rufus Wainwright sings on the BBM soundtrack). Also because I started really loving this song when my sons and I used to listen to the Shrek CD -- which actually is a good soundtrack album overall, by the way, and that's the best song on it.

Just noticed in a quick googling that while the soundtrack CD uses Rufus Wainwright's cover, the movie uses the Jeff Buckley version, apparently because Wainwright was an artist for DreamWorks and there were licensing issue

Newsweek ranked 60 covers of "Hallelujah" -- Rufus Wainwright's is No. 3, Jeff Buckley's is No. 2, John Cale's is No. 1.

It's an interesting list. It's been covered by pretty much every singer ever -- Bob Dylan! Celine Dion! Bono! Neil Diamond! Jon Bon Jovi! K.D. Lang! (her version is pretty good), and apparently every American Idol singer ever. Some of them are accompanied by recordings, though most -- thankfully, it sounds like -- are not. I'd like to hear the Dylan one; he apparently sang it "as an uptempo blues-rock shuffle," but the link Newsweek provides is broken.

Interestingly, Cohen's version is No. 8, and not flatteringly described by Newsweek, which calls "Hallelujah," like "All Along the Watchtower," one of those songs for which a cover is better than the original. They're right about both!

Newsweek says it's fun to play Cohen's version out of context to someone who knows the song, and they'll go, "Who is this guy and why is he wrecking this song?" It also offers this funny story: "One anecdote has him [Dylan] asking Cohen how long it ["Hallelujah"] took to write, to which the singer replied, “A couple of years.” Cohen asked the same of Dylan’s “I and I” and Dylan replied, “Fifteen minutes.”

http://www.newsweek.com/60-versions-leonard-cohens-hallelujah-ranked-303580 (http://www.newsweek.com/60-versions-leonard-cohens-hallelujah-ranked-303580)


Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Kelda on December 10, 2016, 07:33:25 pm
*sings*

because it's all about the basque
about the basque
no soup now!

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Kelda on December 10, 2016, 07:44:11 pm
I was listing to a spotify playlist my friend had made of Christmas songs (267 songs in total - and very eclectic just like him) and up popped a rufus wainwright song.

I hadn't realised until right there and then *quite* how distinctive his voice is. I

 was listening with my earphone while tapping away on my computer at work, so it was really just background noise but as soon as he started signing - I knew who is was instantly. And back thinking of Brokeback straight away.

For anyone interested the song was "What are you doing New Years Eve?" which Id never heard before..

[youtube=425,350]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfUL3kxSNX4[/youtube]

There was another one later called "Some Children See Him"  which I again had never heard before.

[youtube=425,350]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1lPek1zY2M[/youtube]

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 10, 2016, 11:11:00 pm
Newsweek says it's fun to play Cohen's version out of context to someone who knows the song, and they'll go, "Who is this guy and why is he wrecking this song?"

I'll admit that could be me. The first I ever heard it was K.D. Lang's cover, and I remember thinking to myself, "Who's Leonard Cohen?"
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 18, 2017, 10:30:18 pm
I just watched The Hired Hand, 1971, directed and starred in by Peter Fonda. Very Brokieish.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCsCRNByc3g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCsCRNByc3g)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on March 20, 2017, 11:02:40 am
I just watched The Hired Hand, 1971, directed and starred in by Peter Fonda. Very Brokieish.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCsCRNByc3g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCsCRNByc3g)

Was it good?

Speaking of Peter Fonda, my son just watched Easy Rider. I guess he liked it pretty well, although he was highly skeptical about the ending. I told him that [*SPOILER ALERT*] even back in the day it was pretty implausible that a redneck would shoot random passersby just for being hippies.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 20, 2017, 11:37:57 am
Was it good?
I enjoyed it. If you like obscure Westerns with homoerotic undertones, it's one to add to your collection!
Speaking of Peter Fonda, my son just watched Easy Rider. I guess he liked it pretty well, although he was highly skeptical about the ending. I told him that [*SPOILER ALERT*] even back in the day it was pretty implausible that a redneck would shoot random passersby just for being hippies.
We city dwellers are rather naive. This happened all the time in Wyoming, and still does, probably. Strangers passing each other on country roads are careful to follow a ritual of safe passage that I learned on my first trip there. I imagine it's much the same in the deep South.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on March 20, 2017, 06:14:01 pm
how about cowboy zombies?

(http://401ak47.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/ZombieWalk1-boulder-co-2011-zombie-cowboy.jpg)


 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on March 21, 2017, 10:24:31 am
I enjoyed it. If you like obscure Westerns with homoerotic undertones, it's one to add to your collection!

I like obscure Westerns, but normally they needn't have homoerotic undertones.

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We city dwellers are rather naive. This happened all the time in Wyoming, and still does, probably. Strangers passing each other on country roads are careful to follow a ritual of safe passage that I learned on my first trip there. I imagine it's much the same in the deep South.

Well, I lived in just about the deepest South you can get, geographically speaking anyway, and although there were plenty of shootings they were rarely by rednecks and never, to my knowledge, at random passersby just because people didn't like the way they dressed (my awareness would have extended to rural areas outside of New Orleans). In the city, there were plenty of shootings -- with approximately a murder a day, New Orleans had a higher murder rate then than Chicago does now, not even per capita, just total -- including one across the street from my apartment, so I wasn't exactly naiive on that subject. The victims sometimes were random passersby, often children, but in those cases usually the shooter would be aiming at someone else, for a specific reason, and the passersby just happened to be in the way.

I can't speak for the late '60s, but I'm pretty sure if it were happening all the time in Wyoming now -- random people getting shot by strangers -- we'd hear about it. Actually, I've traveled in Wyoming a fair amount and never heard of following a ritual of safe passage (except don't feed the bears in Yellowstone). At least, I didn't follow any, and I emerged unscathed. Of course, I wasn't much of a hippie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_the_United_States_by_state (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_the_United_States_by_state)

According to this Wikipedia chart, you are far less likely to get murdered in Wyoming than in either of our states. In 2010, there were 8 murders in Wyoming, 91 in Minnesota, 117 in Colorado. In total murders, Wyoming was the second-lowest state after Vermont (7) and just under North Dakota (9). Of course, Wyoming is sparsely populated. But even per capita, WY's murder rate is lower at 1.4 (MN: 1.7, CO: 2.3). For gun murders, the rate per capita is WY is 0.9. In MN: 1.0, CO: 1.3. This despite a much higher rate of gun ownership in Wyoming than in either of our states. (Note: not an argument against tightening gun laws.)

Jeff and Chuck, I hate to say this, but you guys are relatively doomed. The gun murder rate in Pennsylvania is higher than Texas (!), 3.6 vs. 3.2. New Jersey's is lower: 2.8. That surprised me a bit -- sorry, Chuck, but I guess NJ just has that reputation, thanks a lot, Sopranos -- but the overall murder rate is lower in NJ, too: 4.1 vs. PA's 5.1.

But getting back to Wyoming, we all know the story of Matthew Shepard, so obviously the state is not without risk. Depending on who your traveling companions were, sadly, they may have felt the need to be extra cautious.  :-\  >:(

Here's a page that discusses Easy Rider's ending. From what I can tell in a quick google, it was intended more as symbolism than realism.

http://movies.stackexchange.com/questions/37203/explanation-of-the-ending-of-easy-rider




Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 21, 2017, 11:15:33 am
Funny, I had seen some statistics when I was researching gun violence that Wyoming is a hotbed for it. Don't know if I'll be able to dig that up again. But let us think about the fate of poor Jack. His death was deemed to be an accident, brought on by his own klutziness in changing a flat tire. But there are those who think he was murdered simply because of the way he looked and acted. What's the true story? It will never be found in statistics.

Coincidentally, I am reading about Monroe Work, who documented the murders of countless people of color. It's an interesting read: http://www.monroeworktoday.org/  (http://www.monroeworktoday.org/)

I myself have traveled quite a bit in Wyoming, especially the rural areas. One of the reasons I've gotten to see so much of the state is because my very presence added a measure of safety and "respectability" to my traveling buddy and allowed us to safely pass by.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 21, 2017, 11:53:09 am
Funny, I had seen some statistics when I was researching gun violence that Wyoming is a hotbed for it. Don't know if I'll be able to dig that up again. But let us think about the fate of poor Jack. His death was deemed to be an accident, brought on by his own klutziness in changing a flat tire. But there are those who think he was murdered simply because of the way he looked and acted. What's the true story? It will never be found in statistics.

Jack didn't die in Wyoming. He died in Texas.

But perhaps you were actually thinking of that tough old bird Earl, and momentarily confused him with Jack? But Earl wasn't shot. He was beaten to death.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 21, 2017, 12:07:36 pm
Jeff and Chuck, I hate to say this, but you guys are relatively doomed. The gun murder rate in Pennsylvania is higher than Texas (!), 3.6 vs. 3.2. New Jersey's is lower: 2.8. That surprised me a bit -- sorry, Chuck, but I guess NJ just has that reputation, thanks a lot, Sopranos -- but the overall murder rate is lower in NJ, too: 4.1 vs. PA's 5.1.

Statistics never tell the entire story. I'm sure Philadelphia is responsible for most of that statistic, but, on the other hand, most of the shootings here are similar to what you described in New Orleans. They're also mostly young-black-male on young-black-male gun violence, and it's not uncommon that drugs are involved in some way (e.g., sales turf), or somebody coming on to somebody else's girlfriend, or somebody "disrespecting" somebody or somebody's girlfriend--or teens or, worse, young children who get shot by stray bullets. In any case, this sort of thing doesn't happen in the areas of the city I frequent. Of course, that doesn't mean they never will, only that they haven't.

I think, Katharine, that as a woman, you'd be far more likely to be raped and strangled in my part of town than I would be to be shot. (That sort of crime did happen just a few blocks west or here about 20 years ago. Two knuckleheads were arrested, charged, and tried, but they were acquitted. Officially the case has never been solved.)

I'm not sure what FRiend Lee might mean by "a ritual of safe passage," but once when I was traveling through Wyoming with OCD, he told me that expected behavior is to raise one hand, maybe touch the brim of your cowboy hat, when you pass another driver on a secondary or back road. I'd just think of that as "Wyoming good manners," rather than as a "ritual of safe passage." But maybe she's referring to something with which I'm not familiar.

Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on March 21, 2017, 03:50:03 pm
What's the true story? It will never be found in statistics.

With all due respect to BBM, it won't be found in a fictional story/movie, either.

(And BTW ruthlessly unsentimental, aka Clancypants, one of the greatest Brokieologists I've known, made an argument in favor of Jack's accidental death that forever convinced me. He said that the narrative makes more logical sense if Jack died accidentally, if the murder was all in Ennis' head -- aren't the murderes that flash through his mind even carrying a tire iron? -- which makes it a story of Ennis' and Jack's lives being ruined by Ennis' internalized homophobia and fear instilled by the Earl and Rich tragedy. That said, I think I've seen quotes from the filmmakers indicating they were more on the fence about it.)

And at the risk of being even more argumentative than I already have been  :) if there were a "true" story of Jack's death it indeed probably would be found in statistics, because his death would either be recorded as accidental tire explosion or murder. Unless of course the cops were in on the coverup. I think even then they'd probably just say it was an unsolved murder, since it would be clear from the body which thing happened.

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Funny, I had seen some statistics when I was researching gun violence that Wyoming is a hotbed for it. Don't know if I'll be able to dig that up again.

Well, if you find them again, let me know. My google search was hasty. I know Wikipedia isn't the ultimate source on anything, and those stats are seven years old, but I'd be surprised if they're that far off.

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I myself have traveled quite a bit in Wyoming, especially the rural areas. One of the reasons I've gotten to see so much of the state is because my very presence added a measure of safety and "respectability" to my traveling buddy and allowed us to safely pass by.

Well, again, though, since those eight murders a year probably involve drug deals and familial killings and so forth, I'd say that statistically speaking even your traveling buddy is probably fairly safe. But I don't blame him for being cautious.  :-\


Statistics never tell the entire story. I'm sure Philadelphia is responsible for most of that statistic, but, on the other hand, most of the shootings here are similar to what you described in New Orleans. They're also mostly young-black-male on young-black-male gun violence, and it's not uncommon that drugs are involved in some way (e.g., sales turf), or somebody coming on to somebody else's girlfriend, or somebody "disrespecting" somebody or somebody's girlfriend--or teens or, worse, young children who get shot by stray bullets. In any case, this sort of thing doesn't happen in the areas of the city I frequent. Of course, that doesn't mean they never will, only that they haven't.

Well, New Orleans has probably changed somewhat post Katrina. But when I lived there the murders often did occur in the parts of the city I frequented. New Orleans, sometimes called a "checkboard," does not have the drastic housing segregation common in Northern cities, and poor neighborhoods abut rich ones. So although, yes, the perpetrators were usually black, the victims were often white. Murders happened all over the place -- I mean, probably more so in housing projects, but otherwise fairly geographically distributed. Not that that should be a part of the argument, since of course Black Lives Matter.

I was joking when I said you and Chuck were doomed, but I did want to point out that your states are more dangerous than Wyoming, presumably because you have bigger cities and more poverty.

When we moved for a year from NOLA to NYC, it at first seemed like you'd be more likely to get murdered in NYC because the papers were full of murder stories. Took me a while to realize that those murders were quite geographically concentrated and the chances of getting murdered in, say, Midtown Manhattan were pretty slim.

In NOLA, on the other hand, my then-husband got mugged, presumably at gunpoint (the mugger pointed something at him, hidden in a sleeve) on an upper-middle-class street at 7 p.m., sun still up, while carrying our 1-year-old in a backpack. A fair share of murders stemmed from muggings.

But vis-a-vis Easy Rider, I'd bet any amount of money that none of the NOLA killings involved rednecks randomly picking off hippies. Even in the rural South, I never heard of that happening while I was there.

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I think, Katharine, that as a woman, you'd be far more likely to be raped and strangled in my part of town than I would be to be shot.

Thanks for conjuring that lovely image, Jeff!   ::)  Though from what I gathered about your part of town, many residents wouldn't have a lot of interest in raping women.

I'm extraordinarily lucky to live in a part of town that's almost entirely free of violence (knock on wood). There are car and garage break-ins, and packages stolen off porches, but in years on years the only violence I've heard of was when a construction worker showed up early at the site of the house being built and found some kids inside -- they robbed him and pushed him down the stairs.

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I'm not sure what FRiend Lee might mean by "a ritual of safe passage," but once when I was traveling through Wyoming with OCD, he told me that expected behavior is to raise one hand, maybe touch the brim of your cowboy hat, when you pass another driver on a secondary or back road. I'd just think of that as "Wyoming good manners," rather than as a "ritual of safe passage." But maybe she's referring to something with which I'm not familiar.

Yes, I think that's widespread in rural Middle-America. Some people just raise one finger as greeting. A friend of mine who grew up in South Dakota made mention on Facebook of drivers giving each other the "one-finger signal" and at first I took her to mean something entirely different and far more common in the city.  :laugh:


Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 21, 2017, 05:33:31 pm
Thanks for conjuring that lovely image, Jeff!   ::) 

I figured it was fair trade for being told I was doomed.  ;D

Unfortunately, that sort of crime really is more common than gun crimes in my part of town--which is not to say they're common, just more common than gun crimes.

The neighborhood crime reports do show break-ins and cell phone thefts in broad daylight.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 21, 2017, 05:53:18 pm
Okay, here are a couple of sources for the years 2013 and 2015:

Wyoming is #6 on the list of the top 20 states for gun violence: Death by firearm per 100,000 population: 16.7 http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/death-by-gun-top-20-states-with-highest-rates/15/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/death-by-gun-top-20-states-with-highest-rates/15/)

For 2015, Wyoming was rated #4 in the nation for homicides by the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/states/wyoming/wyoming.htm (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/states/wyoming/wyoming.htm)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on March 21, 2017, 07:57:18 pm
Okay, here are a couple of sources for the years 2013 and 2015:

Wyoming is #6 on the list of the top 20 states for gun violence: Death by firearm per 100,000 population: 16.7 http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/death-by-gun-top-20-states-with-highest-rates/15/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/death-by-gun-top-20-states-with-highest-rates/15/)

For 2015, Wyoming was rated #4 in the nation for homicides by the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/states/wyoming/wyoming.htm (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/states/wyoming/wyoming.htm)


It looks like my Wikipedia statistics from 2010 were correct, or close to it, according to Uniform Crime Reporting Statistics, which lets you look up both numbers and rates by state (but it's cumbersome, because you have to do them one at a time). They vary a bit from year to year, and for some reason 2010 was a particularly peaceful year for Wyoming (8 murders was correct, according to UCRS). The table only goes through 2014, so I wondered if 2015 murders shot up or what.

https://www.ucrdatatool.gov/Search/Crime/State/RunCrimeStatebyState.cfm (https://www.ucrdatatool.gov/Search/Crime/State/RunCrimeStatebyState.cfm)

Sure enough, by 2015 Wyoming murders had tripled -- to 24. According to the CDC's 2015 National Center for Health Statistics link that you provided, Wyoming is the not 4th highest state for homicides (although it's 4th highest for suicide, and 3rd highest for accidents and liver disease -- all of which seem telling). The number 4.4 is its homicide rate, not ranking. The homicide rate for the U.S. as a whole is 5.1. For some reason, the page offers rankings for disease but not for homicide.

On another page of that same CDC site, Wyoming is shown to have one of the lowest homicide rates (along with ID, UT, MN, IA and New England). Check out the map and the figures below (you get it by clicking homicide on the other page).

This page says Wyoming's homicide rate as 0.0, tying Vermont for the lowest in the country (MN 2.8, CO 3.7). The zero, I gather, doesn't mean there were no homicides, just that the homicide rate (homicides per 100,000) is so low that, even with Wyoming's small population, the rate would have to go more digits to the right of the 0 (for example, maybe .02) to state the number per 100K.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm)

Why the same site says 4.4 on one page and 0.0 on the other, I have no idea. My math is not the best, and maybe I'm misinterpreting the data. In any case, it appears to me that Wyoming's murder rate is close to Minnesota's and a bit lower than Colorado's.

As for the information on the CBS News page, I'm afraid that looks like alternative facts. Either that, or they're being slippery -- maybe the rate of death by gun violence is proportionately higher in WY compared to death by other causes, even though the overall murder rate is extremely low? I don't know, and my brain is getting too weary of statistics to figure it out. But I trust the sources that end in .gov the most, and it looks to me like this CBS feature is misleading at best.

Jeff and Chuck, I'm afraid you're still doomed. But Jeff, note that I'm using a deliberately vague and hyperbolic adjective rather than painting a gruesome picture of exactly how you'll be offed.  ;D

At least we can all be thankful we don't live in Alabama or Maryland, in which case we might as well start drawing up our wills and giving away our possessions.



 
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 21, 2017, 08:44:27 pm
Jeff and Chuck, I'm afraid you're still doomed. But Jeff, note that I'm using a deliberately vague and hyperbolic adjective rather than painting a gruesome picture of exactly how you'll be offed.  ;D

Well, I felt the context implied we were going to be shot.

Gruesome or not, as a woman in my part of town, you are more likely to be raped and strangled than you are to be shot.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on March 21, 2017, 10:56:46 pm
Well, I felt the context implied we were going to be shot.

Gruesome or not, as a woman in my part of town, you are more likely to be raped and strangled than you are to be shot.

Good to know! I'll skip the bulletproof vest when I come to visit you.

I think what you're saying is probably true in all parts of all towns. I'm not going to look up any more statistics today, but that's the sense I get from news reports and whatnot. Women get shot in mass shootings, or when men go berserk and kill their entire families, but you don't hear of many women shot on the street by strangers (unless as bystanders or, occasionally, in muggings). But they get raped and strangled (or stabbed) by strangers as well as by their spouses and boyfriends.





Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 22, 2017, 09:22:27 am
Good to know! I'll skip the bulletproof vest when I come to visit you.

Just make sure your martial arts training is up to date.  ;D

Quote
I think what you're saying is probably true in all parts of all towns. I'm not going to look up any more statistics today, but that's the sense I get from news reports and whatnot. Women get shot in mass shootings, or when men go berserk and kill their entire families, but you don't hear of many women shot on the street by strangers (unless as bystanders or, occasionally, in muggings). But they get raped and strangled (or stabbed) by strangers as well as by their spouses and boyfriends.

And then there are also the women--and children--who are just sitting in their living rooms and get shot by stray bullets.  :(
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on March 22, 2017, 06:23:04 pm
my the topic has taken  a serious turn!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on March 22, 2017, 09:02:14 pm
my the topic has taken  a serious turn!

 :laugh: :laugh:

As my friends say when they settle in to watch a "true crime" reality show, it's Muuurrrrrddeeeerrrrrrr ......


Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 22, 2017, 10:31:24 pm
Or. . .Redrum!!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 23, 2017, 09:32:48 am
Or. . .Redrum!!

That's exactly what I was thinking!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on March 24, 2017, 11:05:16 pm
(http://st-listas.20minutos.es/images/2012-01/318021/3357016_249px.jpg?1327343713)
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on March 26, 2017, 06:22:51 pm
(http://st-listas.20minutos.es/images/2012-01/318021/3357016_249px.jpg?1327343713)


I was going to say, Chuck, don't you dare post a photo of what that kid looks like now. But I just ran across one while reading a time-wasting celebrity article. So now we all have to see it:


(http://www.worldlifestyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Snip20161221_116.jpg)


He's a biology teacher in Kentucky.




Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 26, 2017, 07:37:08 pm
I'll bet he's a really cool biology teacher!!! Bet he knows his protoplasm!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on March 29, 2017, 06:02:00 pm
I wonder if his students ask him to say "redrum"?

:laugh:
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on July 26, 2017, 04:38:17 pm



And they weren’t the only animals who had acted fast to avoid a watery death. Perched on the sheep’s backs were three wild rabbits, drenched and shivering but alive.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/26/woolly-jumpers-rabbits-ride-on-sheep-to-stay-dry-in-flood
(http://logos-download.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/The_Guardian_logo_blue-700x123.jpg)

Woolly jumpers:
rabbits ride on sheep to stay dry in flood

Farmer in New Zealand photographs bunnies hopping on to the
backs of his flock during bad weather in the South Island

Eleanor Ainge Roy
in Dunedin
Tuesday 25 July 2017 23.01 EDT

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/2bc5284d105ad18e2100cb8b0c1e831553655589/0_0_738_442/master/738.jpg?w=1920&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=a2209d12970fbe2b71e88a392018c651)
Rabbits catch a ride on the back of sheep during floods in New Zealand Photograph: Richard Horne


A New Zealand farmer has a newfound respect for the ingenuity of rabbits after he photographed them riding on the backs of sheep to escape a flood.

Ferg Horne, from Mosgiel in the South Island, was checking on his neighbour’s sheep on Saturday morning after a near-record breaking flood tore through Otago, prompting evacuations and forcing authorities to declare a state of emergency.

Expecting the sheep to be drowned, Horne was relieved to discover the mob perched on a high spot of the paddock standing in about three inches of water.

And they weren’t the only animals who had acted fast to avoid a watery death. Perched on the sheep’s backs were three wild rabbits, drenched and shivering but alive.

“I’ve never seen anything like it, they were just sitting there keeping out of the water, they must have got to the high spot and then jumped up on to the back of the sheep to stay dry,” said Horne.

“It shows you how resilient they are and why they survive so well.”

Horne said the sheep weren’t “the slightest bit concerned” about the rabbits.

“When I moved the sheep the rabbits fell off, but they ran to a hedge and climbed into the branches. Later when I went back to check the rabbits were gone so they must have survived.”

Horne said he had spent 40 years shooting rabbits on his farm but couldn’t touch these particular specimens after they showed great “pluck” to escape the flood. Rabbits are a declared pest in New Zealand and the government has vowed to wipe them out by 2050.

“I thought those guys deserved to live, so I left them alone.”

Horne’s farm has since cleared of floodwater and the state of emergency has been lifted.


CLICK FOR VIDEO REPORT:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2017/jul/26/horses-and-rabbits-make-lucky-escapes-from-new-zealand-floods-video-report



Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on July 26, 2017, 06:14:55 pm
woolie riding!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on July 27, 2017, 04:14:37 pm
woolie riding!



 :D ;D ;)





(http://www.tate.org.uk/art/images/work/N/N03/N03700_10.jpg)

Samuel Palmer

Moonlight, a Landscape with Sheep [and Three Rabbits]
c.1831–3


http://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/palmer-moonlight-a-landscape-with-sheep-n03700
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 27, 2017, 08:39:39 pm
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on July 31, 2017, 06:37:21 pm
I don't see the rabbits.....
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on September 27, 2018, 09:59:42 am
I had an urge to listen to/watch this last night, and was thinking of how Brokieish it is. I may have posted it on this thread before -- I didn't want to go through every page to find it, but I went through a few and didn't see it.


[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpJo9Z-N8GI[/youtube]


Does everybody know why it's Brokieish?


Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on September 27, 2018, 08:30:57 pm
Isn't Heath Ledger in that?
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on September 28, 2018, 09:52:34 am
Isn't Heath Ledger in that?

Yes! In fact, he can be briefly glimpsed a couple of times in the video (though the video quality is terrible).

If I remember correctly, he did this movie right before BBM. He's really good in it. But then, I like the whole movie.


Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on September 28, 2018, 09:03:13 pm
Never saw it.  With Heath in it, I'm sure it was done well.  Not a fan of skateboard/surfer stuff.
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on September 29, 2018, 11:39:19 am
Never saw it.  With Heath in it, I'm sure it was done well.  Not a fan of skateboard/surfer stuff.

No, I don't think it would fit your taste. I was interested because my two sons were big skateboarders around that time.



Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on September 29, 2018, 01:46:03 pm
I've seen screenshots from the film,  Heath looks great in it. 
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on September 29, 2018, 04:21:25 pm
I've seen screenshots from the film,  Heath looks great in it. 


(http://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/articles/2005/06/06/lords_of_dogtown_185x270.jpg)


Yes, although he wears fake teeth and mumbles almost as much as Ennis, except in California accent instead of Wyoming. He portrays a real-life guy who owned a surf and skateboard shop in the Dogtown neighborhood of Venice, CA, in the 1970s. The film is about what happened when they introduced skateboards with polyurethane wheels (as opposed to metal wheels, I guess) that were much faster and could do fancy tricks. Here's Heath with the guy, Skip Engblom:


(http://www.media4.hw-static.com/wp-content/uploads/2441148.jpg)


The kids who hung out there and used the skateboards, practicing in empty swimming pools, became the first professional and sponsored skateboarders. Those real-life kids are the main characters in the film. One of them, Stacy Peralta, wrote this movie, and also wrote and directed a related non-fiction documentary about the same thing called "Dogtown and Z Boys."

There! More than you ever wanted to know about the origins of modern skateboarding!  :laugh:

Fun fact: Stacy Peralta (whom I had to briefly google) is nine days younger than me.


Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on September 30, 2018, 06:48:50 pm
Heath Ledger, serial mumbler!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 30, 2018, 05:12:44 pm
This photo shouldn't require any explanation!!
Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: serious crayons on December 30, 2018, 05:22:14 pm
 :laugh: :laugh:

I guess with a hat, a tan jacket and a lamb, even BC can be Brokieish!


Title: Re: Things that aren't directly connected to BBM and yet are somehow Brokieish
Post by: CellarDweller on December 30, 2018, 08:26:31 pm
:laugh: