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Anyone besides me catch them and absolutely love them?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/sherlock/index.html
Only 3 episodes have been filmed and they have already been shown, but you can watch each of their entirety on the PBS website until Dec 7.
Apparently, the episodes were hugely popular and they will begin filming new episodes in January of 2011.
The mysteries are good, very 21st century technology, while I think the Watson character is miscast, the Sherlock actor is perfect.
My favorite - besides the machine gun rattle dialog and manic kinetic energy and possible psychosis of Sherlock's character - is the running theme that everyone assumes Sherlock and Watson are a gay couple and treat them accordingly.
It's not a joke, because the writers have very definitely kept what Sherlock's preferences are completely ambiguous and considering his character was very much the loner before he met Watson, it's a logical assumption on the part of everyone around them.
One of many favorite lines:
"You just met the man yesterday, you moved in with him and today you're solving crimes together. Might we expect a happy announcement by the end of the week?"
Must see!!! ;D ;D ;D
(note to mods: I looked, but didn't see another thread for this. If there is, please join mine to the original. Thanks)
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OMG best Sherlock ever! 8)
I started watching mid-episode last week and couldn't switch the channel. Benedict Cumberbatch (gads what an unwieldy name) is perfect, and I really like Martin Freeman as Watson, too. Classy and smart. 8)
Martin Freeman has been cast in the title role of the upcoming "Hobbit" movies, so he'll have some serious juggling to do to be in the Sherlock episodes, too.
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There isn't any other thread about it that I know of, but I have talked about it a little in my blog and on The Book Thread (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,1059.0/all.html). I've been reading the complete adventures of Sherlock Holmes and am delighted about how the new series plays on and updates some of SHerlock's classic adventures. The crowning experience was the appearance of "Jim Moriarty" last week, Sherlock's arch nemesis. Aside from the adventures and psychology and the relationship of Watson and Holmes, I also love seeing London again, the town is so present in the series that it's almost like a character.
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I was disappointed with "Jim", but other classic characters made their appearance and are so appropo that they fit in perfectly with the update.
I also liked how Watson is sympathetic with and completely accepting of gays due to his own background. While I love his character being a veteran of the wars, Freeman just isn't up to what I would have liked in a modern Dr. Watson. His character hasn't been able to show much of what he's capable of, and at times, makes you wonder why Sherlock has him around. I would have liked Watson to be more cutting edge medical and a little sharper than he is. Doctors are usually pretty strong personality wise and granted, while he's put off a great deal by Sherlock's roughshod running personality, I would have liked to have seen a Watson holding his own and Freeman, IMO, just isn't up to it. He just doesn't have that ruthless streak I expect a soldier to have, nor is his presence very noteworthy. And while I know men who are usually dangerous aren't very dramatic and are very innocuous, he's just not impressive in any way.
And yes, London is its own character. It's the London of my memories - and daydreams. :)
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Raises hand! I love this series, love the ambiguous Sherlock, the accepting Watson, London, all the tech stuff, and the theme music is great also. The flat at 221B Baker St. is awesome. I love all the characters that appear and help them along the way, and Alan Cumming's great voice hosting Masterpiece Mystery. I understand they are working on a second series. It's wonderful! :)
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I see where you are coming from but yet I disagree. Especially in the most recent episode where (WARNING, possible spoilers here!) Watson is wearing a full vest of explosives which could detonate at any time, yet he keeps his wits about him and when he sees an opportunity, he seizes Moriarty and holds him hostage. But Holmes realizes that hidden gunmen could dispatch them both. The eerie appearance of the laser beams which mean high powered rifles are trained on them. Watson has his flaws, but I also love his dedication. He knows that Holmes depends on him to provide backup and protection. So, he rushes off sometimes in the middle of the night, not even knowing where he is going or why. Blind faith.
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I see where you are coming from but yet I disagree. Especially in the most recent episode where (WARNING, possible spoilers here!) Watson is wearing a full vest of explosives which could detonate at any time, yet he keeps his wits about him and when he sees an opportunity, he seizes Moriarty and holds him hostage. But Holmes realizes that hidden gunmen could dispatch them both. The eerie appearance of the laser beams which mean high powered rifles are trained on them. Watson has his flaws, but I also love his dedication. He knows that Holmes depends on him to provide backup and protection. So, he rushes off sometimes in the middle of the night, not even knowing where he is going or why. Blind faith.
I really didn't like that perilous situation.
Why would Watson fall victim so easily? If he is a soldier, used to the battlefield, liked the living on the edge feeling, he should be very wary and indeed, quite aware of his surroundings, examining everything as if it might be a possible threat. I would have liked to have seen him beat up a bit, showing he had to be overpowered to be taken hostage.
And this is the 2nd time this has happened in the series, so I hope they don't fall into this Watson in Peril stuff.
Anyway, Watson seized Moriarity and told Sherlock to run. It was Sherlock who refused to leave him. And the threat? Is it one? The explosives are meant to be how powerful exactly? Moriarity has no trouble coming close to them and uses the threat of the sniper shooting Watson. All Watson would have to do to keep Moriarity in mortal danger just being near him is to turn around, so the shooter might accidentally set off the explosives. Or, all Sherlock had to do was duck in the doorway away from the shooters and Watson could have dragged Moriartiy with him as a shield and followed, leaving him completely in their control.
Naw, I didn't like that scene, except for the very first part where you see Sherlock have one awful moment of stunned doubt and pained confusion when he's expecting the criminal mastermind and Watson steps out. That was delicious.
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Question, early in that episode when the guy appears that Watson's co-worker is living with, was that Moriarty or just one of his minions? The coworker introduces him as the young man she's living with, giving you the impression that she's quite serious about him. Holmes looks up from his microscope for about 2 milliseconds and says, "gay" and then realizes that he's alarmed the young woman so he says "hey" instead. But she calls him on it as soon as the young man leaves, whereupon he proves the man's orientation by saying, among other things, that he dyes his eyebrows. Pretty far fetched, and as it turns out, he was being led on!
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Question, early in that episode when the guy appears that Watson's co-worker is living with, was that Moriarty or just one of his minions? The coworker introduces him as the young man she's living with, giving you the impression that she's quite serious about him. Holmes looks up from his microscope for about 2 milliseconds and says, "gay" and then realizes that he's alarmed the young woman so he says "hey" instead. But she calls him on it as soon as the young man leaves, whereupon he proves the man's orientation by saying, among other things, that he dyes his eyebrows. Pretty far fetched, and as it turns out, he was being led on!
That was Moriarty. In the 3rd episode he admits it.
Actually, the girl is Molly, the forensic doctor/tech who has a crush on Sherlock who asks him out for coffee in the first episode. I'll have to re-watch the episode, but I believe she's not living with him, just dating him. When Sherlock calls gay on him, she defends him by saying they've been out several times. But the kicker as far as Sherlock is concerned is the fact that "Jim from IT" slipped Sherlock his phone number.
Sarah is the doctor who hires Watson for his part-time clinic job.
ETA: Checked the episode. Molly says she's only involved with Jim, an 'office romance'. She never says she's living with him.
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Thanks for clearing that up! This series is so fast-moving, it's hard to keep track of all the details!
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Martin Freeman has been cast in the title role of the upcoming "Hobbit" movies, so he'll have some serious juggling to do to be in the Sherlock episodes, too.
Such a Hobbit face! ;D
(http://puntabulous.com/wp-content/MartinFreeman.jpg)
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Such a Hobbit face! ;D
(http://puntabulous.com/wp-content/MartinFreeman.jpg)
Isn't it? He'll be a perfect Bilbo! ;D
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Holmes looks up from his microscope for about 2 milliseconds and says, "gay" and then realizes that he's alarmed the young woman so he says "hey" instead. But she calls him on it as soon as the young man leaves, whereupon he proves the man's orientation by saying, among other things, that he dyes his eyebrows. Pretty far fetched, and as it turns out, he was being led on!
On thinking about it...was he being led on - completely? I daresay, Moriarty's growing obsession with Holmes probably has more nuances than just a challenge of the intellect.
And upon rewatching, I do like how when Sherlock feels himself lacking - and not in a good way - from normal people he turns to Watson. And I like how Watson has made himself the practical manager of Sherlock's occupation. Sherlock is above all financial incentive. Watson makes sure he is not. :)
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I checked my PBS website and it doesn't look like "Sherlock" is being repeated. All I caught was the last half of the third episode. I'd rather not have to buy the DVD. Hope it turns up again on the schedule.
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I checked my PBS website and it doesn't look like "Sherlock" is being repeated. All I caught was the last half of the third episode. I'd rather not have to buy the DVD. Hope it turns up again on the schedule.
Do they not have the episodes on the website to watch? They do on mine.
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Do they not have the episodes on the website to watch? They do on mine.
It took some searching, but I found them. Thanks! 8)
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Hmmmm...is Sherlock ambiguous after all? :o
On a rewatch I finally caught the meaning of line that didn't really register before.
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In the very awkward cafe scene in Ep 1, Watson is trying to find out if Sherlock has a girlfriend or boyfriend. Sherlock finally decides that Watson is trying to pick him up. He turns him down and then clearly says he's turning him down because he's not looking for anything - not because he's not into men. :o :o
I'm sold on which way Sherlock would go if he ever decided to get with the rest of the human race. ;D
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There's also the way he treats Watson's gf Sarah. He clearly thinks of her as superfluous. Until she pointed out a key clue that he had overlooked. After he regained his composure, he looked at her with new respect. Will Sarah be the Hermione of this story? I'd like to be an ingredient in that sandwich! (and not just the man-naise!)
Benedict Cumberbatch is so good at telegraphing when Sherlock realizes he is flawed...i.e. "I'm not a psychopath, I'm a high-functioning sociopath" LOL!
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There's also the way he treats Watson's gf Sarah. He clearly thinks of her as superfluous. Until she pointed out a key clue that he had overlooked. After he regained his composure, he looked at her with new respect. Will Sarah be the Hermione of this story? I'd like to be an ingredient in that sandwich! (and not just the man-naise!)
Benedict Cumberbatch is so good at telegraphing when Sherlock realizes he is flawed...i.e. "I'm not a psychopath, I'm a high-functioning sociopath" LOL!
Man-naise! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Benedict is extremely good at it, I agree. His Sherlock is very expressive. When Watson first tells Sherlock he's seen his website, Sherlock gets all puffed up, full of pride, waiting for John's reaction. And when Watson's reply is simply a skeptical look, his face just falls.
Or when Lestrade invades his apartment on a drugs bust (is that a UK expression? "Drugs bust", plural? Here in the US it's singular "drug bust") and Watson is scoffing that the police would ever find anything, the look on Sherlock's face is priceless - he's being unmasked and humiliated in front of Watson and he's dreading it.
And of course, the phases his face goes through when he's dismissive of a woman's feelings for a long-lost child then realizes from everyone's reaction that he goofed and goofed badly and looks to Watson.
"Not good?"
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So does this Sherlock for the new century still have a brother Mycroft? ;D
Not sure if this has been shown around here. It wouldn't really interest me anyway. One of the attractions for me in the real Sherlock Holmes stories, and in the Jeremy Brett series, is the late Victorian setting. Holmes has been updated before--I'm sure I read somewhere that most of the Basil Rathbone-Nigel Bruce movies were set in the then present--but that just doesn't interest me.
So they gave Watson a girlfriend named Sarah? Humpf. Mary was good enough for Conan Doyle. ...
Benedict Cumberbatch: What a wonderful name! Perfectly balanced, three syllables each--and certainly memorable!
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Yes, Mycroft is very active in the new series.
I'm sorry this doesn't interest you, friend. I would have loved to hear your reactions.
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Yes, Mycroft is very active in the new series.
I'm sorry this doesn't interest you, friend. I would have loved to hear your reactions.
I'm a little surprised that it interests you. I thought you didn't like fan fiction. ... ;D
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I don't have anything against fan fiction. I read four chapters of Leslie's book and enjoyed them very much. She is a good writer and did her research. Plus, and this is a very big plus, Jack was in her story. Most of the other fan fiction I've seen has no Jack and "you can't have Ennis without Jack" as Ms. Proulx said. Or it is very badly written and someone who works with words all day long, as you and I both do, can't tolerate bad writing. There are so many wonderful books in the world, I have no time to waste!
As for Sherlock Holmes, I am in the midst of reading the original stories by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. I'm beginning the second volume. He is such an incisive writer and both lead characters are so wonderfully drawn. Doyle portrays both the bold facts that are there for everyone but the actors to see as well as the elusiveness and complexity of the human soul.
The series accomplishes the same thing. It's interesting the way they've updated the turns of phrase as well as the criminal pathology, while keeping touches of the original stories, like the mysterious Indian touches and the victim dressed in, in this case, pink. The new Sherlock is a fascinating character and Holmes has much promise as well. The contemporary setting is not intrusive and technology doesn't overcome the story...it's still based on that ever changing inscrutable eccentric and fascinating creature, the human being and its psyche.
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The series accomplishes the same thing. It's interesting the way they've updated the turns of phrase as well as the criminal pathology, while keeping touches of the original stories, like the mysterious Indian touches and the victim dressed in, in this case, pink. The new Sherlock is a fascinating character and Holmes has much promise as well. The contemporary setting is not intrusive and technology doesn't overcome the story...it's still based on that ever changing inscrutable eccentric and fascinating creature, the human being and its psyche.
Agree. If you're a Sherlock Holmes fan, the producers, who are fans themselves, put little tributes from the original in the new series. They have turns of phrases, play on words, etc., that allude to the original Sherlock.
Unfortunately, I'm not a fangirl of Sherlock, the original, other than just casual knowledge so most of them fly by me, but my sister is, and she's catching all the little homages.
Three pipe problem? Three patch problem. :laugh:
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Three pipe problem? Three patch problem. :laugh:
Haha, I just got this last nite when I watched A Study in Pink again on my computer. Also, I loved the first look at Sherlock's messy apartment and his lovely relationship with Mrs. Hudson (I want to be Mrs. Hudson!!) I love how Sherlock pretends to be all serious and blase but you can just see how he wants Watson to move in with him and be his sidekick. Summed up in the following exchange (paraphrased from memory):
Sherlock: "So, you're a military doctor...seen a lot of destruction, violence and gore on the battlefield?"
Holmes: "Yes" (said in a "where is this going and what am I getting myself into?" voice)
Sherlock: "Want some more of it?"
Holmes: "God, yes!"
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Haha, I just got this last nite when I watched A Study in Pink again on my computer. Also, I loved the first look at Sherlock's messy apartment and his lovely relationship with Mrs. Hudson (I want to be Mrs. Hudson!!) I love how Sherlock pretends to be all serious and blase but you can just see how he wants Watson to move in with him and be his sidekick. Summed up in the following exchange (paraphrased from memory):
Sherlock: "So, you're a military doctor...seen a lot of destruction, violence and gore on the battlefield?"
Watson: "Yes" (said in a "where is this going and what am I getting myself into?" voice)
Sherlock: "Want some more of it?"
Watson: "God, yes!"
Yes, he makes mention that no one else will work with him and he needs an assistant. Sherlock needs a cheering section. During the exam of the Pink Lady's body, Holmes keeps making these breath-taking deductions and John keeps blurting out his amazement until Holmes finally says,
"You know you're saying this aloud?"
John, embarrassed replies, "I'm sorry, I'll shut up."
And then Holmes smiles at him and whispers, "No, it's - fine."
In this series, Holmes is derided or used for his talent and finally here is someone who thinks very positively and reacts very positively to his talent. Of course Sherlock would want to keep him around. :)
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In this series, Holmes is derided or used for his talent and finally here is someone who thinks very positively and reacts very positively to his talent. Of course Sherlock would want to keep him around. :)
Amen! I was watching The Great Game tonight and was struck by the time the police dept woman comes to the door and calls out "Freak...there's a message for you!" That hurt!
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Amen! I was watching The Great Game tonight and was struck by the time the police dept woman comes to the door and calls out "Freak...there's a message for you!" That hurt!
It does. If you watch the beginning of the "The Blind Banker" episode, where he meets his wanker ex-university alum, he mocks Sherlock's talent by comparing it to a 'trick' and then he says Sherlock's observations "Put the wind up us, we all hated him."
Sherlock looks away and his expression is that he remembered that too and it still hurt. The actor who plays Sherlock is intensely expressive and a great actor.
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Here's another one I didn't catch until someone who's read the books quoted the line:
Book Sherlock: I am lost without my Boswell.
Series Sherlock: I'd be lost without my blogger.
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Yes, the relationship between Sherlock and Holmes is one of the most endearing aspects of the story. And it's one of the top adventure buddy stories of all time.
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Attention! The Internet version of this show is going offline starting tomorrow! This is your last chance to watch!
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/sherlock/watch.html (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/sherlock/watch.html)
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Attention! The Internet version of this show is going offline starting tomorrow! This is your last chance to watch!
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/sherlock/watch.html (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/sherlock/watch.html)
Yep, I'm glad the makers waited until after Xmas. So I wouldn't have to have withdrawals. I got the series on DVD. ;D
Do you think they'll take down the extras they have on the website? The interviews - short as they are - are very enjoyable.
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Attention! The Internet version of this show is going offline starting tomorrow! This is your last chance to watch!
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/sherlock/watch.html (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/sherlock/watch.html)
Thank you, Lee! I'd been dallying too long and would have missed it. :P
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You're welcome! What did you think?
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I really like.
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One of the DVDs I got for Xmas was the movie Creation, the story of Charles Darwin and the writing of his book The Origin of Species starring Paul Bettany and his wife Jennifer Connelly. I had just settled down to watch the movie when who should appear in a minor part but Benedict Cumberbatch!
I realized I've already seen him in other movies as well Atonement and The Other Boleyn Girl for example. Now I'm going to rent Amazing Grace so I can see him in that as well. :)
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You're welcome! What did you think?
I like it a lot. Unfortunately, I had to go out last night and only had time to watch the first episode. Maybe when it returns in the spring they'll repeat the first three. I did get to see the third episode when it was playing on PBS.
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I like it a lot. Unfortunately, I had to go out last night and only had time to watch the first episode. Maybe when it returns in the spring they'll repeat the first three. I did get to see the third episode when it was playing on PBS.
Season 2 isn't until next November.
Martin Freeman is doing The Hobbit and he is using the 2011 summer break in filming to shoot Sherlock before flying back to New Zealand.
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My DVD of Sherlock is on its way!
Della, I envy you your Cumberbatch festival! I definitely need to get at the very least Creation. I saw the trailer, but missed the film which didn't play very long due to the Avatar monolith in town.
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My DVD of Sherlock is on its way!
Della, I envy you your Cumberbatch festival! I definitely need to get at the very least Creation. I saw the trailer, but missed the film which didn't play very long due to the Avatar monolith in town.
Thanks! I am surprised that I've already seen him in things. Go check out my review of Creation on the movie thread.
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It just boggles me that Benedict looks so amazing as a brunette - love the dark hair, cheekbones you could cut glass with and light light cat eyes - but in reality, he's a sandy blond!
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Agreed! As a brunette, he looks very Black Irish.
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Now I'm going to rent Amazing Grace so I can see him in that as well. :)
Big thumbs up on Amazing Grace if you're a Cumberbatch fan. Not only do I get to watch Ioan Gruffud who I've liked since the "Horatio Hornblower" series, but Benedict has a rather large supporting role as his best friend in this movie. And it's one of those close male friendships that I so enjoy.
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Big thumbs up on Amazing Grace if you're a Cumberbatch fan. Not only do I get to watch Ioan Gruffud who I've liked since the "Horatio Hornblower" series, but Benedict has a rather large supporting role as his best friend in this movie. And it's one of those close male friendships that I so enjoy.
Oh, that's where I've heard the name before, in connection with Amazing Grace.
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OK, I'm in the middle of a long Cumberbatch film marathon...he is an excellent actor. It's fun to see the "Sherlockisms" in his other movies ;D
But now, in a complete reversal, I've gotten so used to seeing him as a sandy/dark blond that it seems strange when I see pictures of him as a brunette!
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and because I imagine homoerotica everywhere - pic of Ioan Gruffudd and Benedict at the Amazing Grace premiere. :-* :-* ;D
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Excellent observations, my dear Watson!
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The very beginning of the series starts on the killing fields of Afghanistan when Dr. Watson sustains a wound...or so it seems. Cut to his recovery in London and the early days where he lives in a small room, starts a blog, and visits his therapist. She asks about the progress on the blog and he says dismissively, "fine, fine, it's going quite well." "You haven't written a word, have you, John?" she answers. She explains how writing about all that happens to him will help him recover and help him not think so much about his injured leg and intermittent tremor in his hand (which she has diagnosed as psychosomatic). John answers, "Nothing ever happens to me." Quick cut to the credits and night scenes of London, the haunt of Sherlock Holmes.
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I was watching the DVD of "A Study in Pink" last night with the commentary on, and the producers remarked how totally unlike their characters the two actors are. They mentioned how Benedict is more 'bumbling' than his TV character, sweet and nicest guy you'd want to meet, yet - like Sherlock though in a nicer way - gently asserts himself in a room as the alpha male. ;D
I wish I could find this article I read a few days ago. Benedict talked about his life in detail, things he'd done, places he'd been, life-risking things that he wanted to experience (he mentioned skydiving and had a video made of him doing it and said he enjoyed watching his 'double chins flapping') and he actually went to Tibet to teach English for a couple of years.
*sigh*
Whenever I hear about someone's life reading like an adventure novel, I think to my own life and Hugh Grant's words from Four Weddings and a Funeral come to mind
"What have I been doing with my time? Working...a lot..." :laugh:
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Me too, friend!
BTW, didn't Watson own one of those Glocks, too?
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Me too, friend!
BTW, didn't Watson own one of those Glocks, too?
Naw, according to the series it's a Browning L9A1 but I think it looks like a Sig Sauer
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Whenever I hear about someone's life reading like an adventure novel, I think to my own life and Hugh Grant's words from Four Weddings and a Funeral come to mind
"What have I been doing with my time? Working...a lot..." :laugh:
Or, as somebody else once said, "Makin' a livin's 'bout all I got time for." :-\
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Or, as somebody else once said, "Makin' a livin's 'bout all I got time for." :-\
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You're not dead yet, della! C'mon start work on that bucket list!! I'm planning to go to Tibet myself in 2012!!
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You're not dead yet, della! C'mon start work on that bucket list!! I'm planning to go to Tibet myself in 2012!!
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You go, girl!
Dunno. I might make it to some exotic locale as well someday. Well, I am going to Italy this fall, and then was going to save up for a downpayment to my own place. However, today I just dropped over $600 for plumbing repairs to my mom's house. And that has done a lot to knock the shine off the idea that owning my own home would be a dream come true.
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I was watching the DVD of "A Study in Pink" last night with the commentary on, and the producers remarked how totally unlike their characters the two actors are. They mentioned how Benedict is more 'bumbling' than his TV character, sweet and nicest guy you'd want to meet, yet - like Sherlock though in a nicer way - gently asserts himself in a room as the alpha male. ;D
I wish I could find this article I read a few days ago. Benedict talked about his life in detail, things he'd done, places he'd been, life-risking things that he wanted to experience (he mentioned skydiving and had a video made of him doing it and said he enjoyed watching his 'double chins flapping') and he actually went to Tibet to teach English for a couple of years.
*sigh*
Atonement on tap for tonight!! We may just have to change the name of this thread to "Benedict, Benedict, Benedict!!!"
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Atonement on tap for tonight!! We may just have to change the name of this thread to "Benedict, Benedict, Benedict!!!"
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Well, it might as well be until he makes next year's episodes! Or until Martin Freeman becomes a Hobbit.
And also, the man keeps busy. He's got two more movies due out this year. His voice has been compared to Alan Rickman and on the DVD for Episode 3, he even supposedly does an Alan Rickman impression. I'm in the middle of his mini-series "To the Ends of the Earth"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435995/
and am taking a break tonight to watch the DVD commentary on Sherlock Ep 3. ;D
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His voice has been compared to Alan Rickman and on the DVD for Episode 3, he even supposedly does an Alan Rickman impression.
Yeah, he does sound like Alan Rickman. I'd like to hear his impression. ;D
I'm going to see Alan Rickman on the 29th in Ibsen's "John Gabriel Borkman" with Fiona Shaw and Lindsey Duncan. 8) 8) 8)
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True, he has the same accent but AR's voice is more nasal. I wonder if he has to put a clothespin on his nose to do the impression!
Meryl, we envy you so much I'm turning green! Please give us a report!!
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True, he has the same accent but AR's voice is more nasal. I wonder if he has to put a clothespin on his nose to do the impression!
Meryl, we envy you so much I'm turning green! Please give us a report!!
Benedict does do an AR impersonation. It is quite good. :laugh:
And strangely, Martin Freeman did not sound very enthused doing the DVD commentary. He was silent for the most part and just came across with a 'I don't really want to be here' attitude. Benedict was much more generous with his time and, after he warmed to the situation (the two actors hadn't seen the episode and apologized for their moments of silence because they were watching it), became quite talkative and - as the directors described earlier - gently assumed the mantle of the alpha male of the room :laugh: 8).
Benedict did say he and Martin were completely different actors. As he put it, not quite "chalk and cheese". Who knows? Perhaps Martin is one of those Sean "I stay in character" Penn method actors or Robert "I can't put two words together without a script" DeNiro actors.
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Thumbs up on Benedict's performance in The Other Boleyn Girl.
His part is small, but very poignant. Some of the best scenes are his and they're cut from the movie. You can see them in the Deleted Scenes section of the DVD.
SOME SPOILERS if you haven't seen the movie.
He plays Mary Boleyn's husband, newly married and they're innocent and very happily wed, just to have the king visit and take a shine to Mary ordering her to the court along with her husband. Since these are 'royal appointments' and the Boleyn men are ruthlessly ambitious, they railroad Benedict's character into accepting the position with him knowing full well what's going to happen. And he's heartbroken about it.
Now the Mary character goes the palace and flattered by the king's attention and lust, decides she's in love with the king and forgets about her husband and doesn't care when the king sends him away from court on an assignment, laughing about her inability to tell the king what to do.
Then in the deleted scene, when Mary returns home to her husband with her illegitimate child, she finds out that while she's been involved in a torrid lust affair and fighting with her sister over the king, her husband has been consumed with guilt, still in love with her. Benedict's acting is amazingly sincere and I tell you I was crying at that scene. I wish they'd put that scene in the movie. It gave real heart to the movie that isn't there otherwise, showing the emotional cost of having an affair and made quite clear that Mary herself is not an innocent victim anymore. She's just as callous and cruel in love as anyone at the Court.
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Well, that's definitely a must-see. This weekend I watched Atonement, and developed a weakenss for chocktails!!
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Well, that's definitely a must-see. This weekend I watched Atonement, and developed a weakenss for chocktails!!
I haven't been able to bring myself to watch it because Benedict's supposedly a bad guy. Is he that bad? The synopsis doesn't make it seem so bad.
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Sherlock sets a fashion trend. ;D
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/sep/04/sherlock-fashion-mens-coats
http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2010/aug/08/benedict-cumberbatch-sherlock-holmes
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I'm not surprised by this. Benedict lends a whole new meaning to the word dashing. With his wide lapels, coattails, and curls flying, he makes a dash down a damp London street in the dark something I long for! And my heart beats double time when he dons his woolen scarf and drapes it so cavalierly around his long sleek neck!
Watson has his own sartorial style too...love his tiny plaid shirts, black soled shoes, and his cane, even though it's merely a psychosomatic crutch!!
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This is a testament to how much I love my daughter. In the ninth month of her pregnancy, I have lent her not only Sherlock but also Local Hero!!
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This is a testament to how much I love my daughter. In the ninth month of her pregnancy, I have lent her not only Sherlock but also Local Hero!!
:o :o :o
Tonight I offered to have my sister come over to my place to watch Sherlock, but she can have my DVD when they pry it out of my cold, dead hand. ;) :laugh:
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She hasn't watched either one yet.
Today I had an inexplicable craving for...eggs Benedict!
As near as I can tell, BC's name means "a newly married man (previously thought to be a confirmed bachelor) who is burdened down by a large flask of liquor." :laugh:
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She hasn't watched either one yet.
Today I had an inexplicable craving for...eggs Benedict!
As near as I can tell, BC's name means "a newly married man (previously thought to be a confirmed bachelor) who is burdened down by a large flask of liquor." :laugh:
Dang! I wish I could find that article I read some weeks ago on Cumberbatch. It was quite detailed about his life. He said that in a karma-like way, he appeared in the movie Amazing Grace as one of the supporters of the abolition of slavery as a type of atonement because his forefathers - Cumberbatch is German and means something like 'from a valley' or something like that - went to the West Indies and made quite a fortune in the sugar/slave trade.
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Dang! I wish I could find that article I read some weeks ago on Cumberbatch. It was quite detailed about his life. He said that in a karma-like way, he appeared in the movie Amazing Grace as one of the supporters of the abolition of slavery as a type of atonement because his forefathers - Cumberbatch is German and means something like 'from a valley' or something like that - went to the West Indies and made quite a fortune in the sugar/slave trade.
If it's German then the name must have started out as (Something)-bach.
The English can't spell or pronounce German names for shit. >:(
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OK, here's that story on Cumberbatch getting carjacked while filming in South Africa. He's pretty honest about a very wrenching situation.
http://juliaseashelleyes.tumblr.com/post/1596663753/benedicts-terrifying-car-jacking-story-from-when-he
And I've been spending waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time at this site being a fangirl and gawking at pictures of the man. :-* :-*
http://cumberbatchattack.tumblr.com/
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Here's that dang article I've been looking for
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/05_may/19/earth5.shtml
Cumberbatch talks about his life so far, exciting and privileged...ah well...
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Thanks for posting these links. What fun! I'm looking forward to following what I hope will be a long career for him. I'm so glad he is so generous in sharing his experiences!!
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Interview from last week...he talks about Frankenstein, Hawking, Sherlock, the carjacking.
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Interview from last week...he talks about Frankenstein, Hawking, Sherlock, the carjacking.
And his name! Whether it's German Cumberbach as Jeff pointed out or Welsh. :laugh:
Thanks so much for posting! Very interesting. Goodness, I wish I was in London so I could try to buy scalped tickets to 'Frankenstein'.
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And his name! Whether it's German Cumberbach as Jeff pointed out or Welsh. :laugh:
Thanks so much for posting! Very interesting. Goodness, I wish I was in London so I could try to buy scalped tickets to 'Frankenstein'.
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Oh, geeze, yes, his name...."small valley dweller or whatever" ;D
Same here re London. Are you near any of the theaters where they're showing the broadcast of 'Frankenstein'? I'm counting the days. Seeing it live would be wonderful, but I'll settle for the big screen.
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Oh, geeze, yes, his name...."small valley dweller or whatever" ;D
Same here re London. Are you near any of the theaters where they're showing the broadcast of 'Frankenstein'? I'm counting the days. Seeing it live would be wonderful, but I'll settle for the big screen.
YES!!!!
March 23 and 24th!! I'm so excited. Thanks for making me go look. Now I'll have to watch the site like a hawk to see the soonest I can buy tickets!!!
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YES!!!!
March 23 and 24th!! I'm so excited. Thanks for making me go look. Now I'll have to watch the site like a hawk to see the soonest I can buy tickets!!!
Just bought my advanced ticket!!!
Yay! :D
Dang, they're not cheap - $20 plus processing fee.
Boo! >:(
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How exciting!! I'm dancing around outside my pup tent for you!!!! :D
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I watched The Seven Percent Solution tonight. It was quite awful, even though I like Alan Arkin (who plays Sigmund Freud) and Vanessa Redgrave. Almost everybody in the movie had a terrible faux British or German accent.
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I love Sherlock's terse questions: "Problem?" "You have questions?" "Not good?" He uses Watson as his barometer. As he himself realizes, "I'd be lost without my blogger." :)
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"I'd be lost without my blogger." :)
Hmm. I do believe there is a line somewhere in the "canon" where Holmes says to Watson, "I'd be lost without my Boswell," or something very close to that.
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My sister and I compare the movie version (Downey/Law) characters with the TV version (Cumberbach/Freeman) and how the movie couple dynamic is extremely 'bromance' and Law's Watson is not averse to punching Downey's Holmes in the face when he gets fed up with his obnoxiousness, while in the TV version, Cumberbach's Sherlock is passive aggressive and when Freeman's John is winding up to be angry, Sherlock either modifies his behavior or he says something that takes the wind out of John's anger
"There's a head in the refrigerator."
"Just tea for me."
"A bloody head!"
Where else was I supposed to put it? You don't mind, do you?"
"Why didn't I think of that?"
"Because you're an idiot. No no no. Don't be like that, most everyone is."
;D :laugh:
Hmm. I do believe there is a line somewhere in the "canon" where Holmes says to Watson, "I'd be lost without my Boswell," or something very close to that.
It is. It's one of the many little tidbits the producers - who are extremely familiar with the Sherlock stories - put in the shows, either quoting directly or 'updating' it. People familar with the stories have been picking them out.
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YES!!!!
March 23 and 24th!! I'm so excited. Thanks for making me go look. Now I'll have to watch the site like a hawk to see the soonest I can buy tickets!!!
I went to the March 23rd viewing at my local art house theater. They're filming National Theater productions and the result is very good. I wasn't sure which performance I'd get - Benedict Cumberbatch and Jonny Miller are trading off roles (one playing Victor, the other the Monster and then the next performance, they switch), and I was hoping for Cumberbatch as Victor, because I always have a soft spot in my heart for men slowly going mad, plus he'd look amazing in Victorian clothes, :-* - but alas, the production was with him as the Monster. Turned out to be better, because Victor's part was much much smaller than the Monster's and the Monster was a kinetic energetic part, full of physicality and emotion and the growth of someone from innocent to someone capable of terrible acts because of the desire to love and be loved, basically.
Danny Boyle's production was slick and eyecatching but it jumped a bit. You weren't sure at times how the Monster got from one situation to the other and some scenes weren't explained very well. And strangely there was what I consider a musical scene and later a dance interlude.
But the pacing was S L O W
The opening scene - while it gave the audience a very good look at Cumberbatch wearing nothing but a little bit of near see-through gauze around his dainties and he is extremely nice to look at - the scene of the 'birth' of the Monster went on waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long. There was no dialog, no other characters, just the Monster on a near empty stage learning how to get up and walk.
I haven't read Shelley, so I'm not sure how close to the original story the theatrical production stuck. There was a little bit of humor as all tragedies have, humor usually used as a tension reliever, but the humor in this production was IMO awkward and out of place in some places.
Acting was superb, all the way around, and before the end, you're feeling a lot of compassion for the Monster.
I enjoyed it and considered it worth the money and surprisingly, it was shown on a weeknight, in one of the larger auditoriums and it was nearly a full house.
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Thanks for the report, del. I'm glad that audiences who can't get to London are able to see these plays. It must have played somewhere in NYC but I haven't seen any promos (not that I've been looking--way too busy right now to do fun things). I agree that long pantomime sections don't go over too well with audiences, especially nowadays. LOL at his "dainties." ;D
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I feel cheated. >:( ;)
Someone just posted a pic on a blog site of Benedict Cumberbatch portraying the monster in the Frankenstein stage production and he looks in the pic, stark naked (it's a rear shot). Now it's not beyond actors on stage to be naked in theatrical productions, esp in the UK, so now I'm wondering if the opening scene is really played in the nude, but for the filmed version I saw, they covered him up.
I wuz robbed! >:( :laugh:
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I love Sherlock's terse questions: "Problem?" "You have questions?" "Not good?" He uses Watson as his barometer. As he himself realizes, "I'd be lost without my blogger." :)
Hmm. I do believe there is a line somewhere in the "canon" where Holmes says to Watson, "I'd be lost without my Boswell," or something very close to that.
It is. It's one of the many little tidbits the producers - who are extremely familiar with the Sherlock stories - put in the shows, either quoting directly or 'updating' it. People familar with the stories have been picking them out.
I wonder how many people watching this new version even know who "Boswell" was? ???
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Yeehaw! 8)
Benedict Cumberbatch joins Hobbit cast
British actor Benedict Cumberbatch is set to reteam with his Sherlock co-star Martin Freeman after landing a role in upcoming Lord of the Rings prequel The Hobbit.
Freeman, who will star as Bilbo Baggins in the two-part fantasy film, accidentally revealed the casting news backstage at the British Academy of Film and Television Arts (BAFTA) TV Awards on Sunday.
Early reports suggest Cumberbatch will voice the dragon character Smaug but the actor refused to specify his role, insisting, "I can't say at the moment, thank you very much."
A red-faced Freeman later told reporters, "I knew I was a sort of a big mouth but I didn't realise to what extent I was a big mouth, and I've just ruined everything. I might not actually go back to a job - they might have just sacked (fired) me."
Cumberbatch plays Sherlock Holmes opposite Freeman as Dr Watson in a TV adaptation of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's legendary sleuth stories. The duo picked up the Best Drama Series prize for the show at the BAFTA TV Awards.
http://www.3news.co.nz/Benedict-Cumberbatch-joins-Hobbit-cast---report/tabid/418/articleID/212381/Default.aspx
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Excellent indeed! I hope it will be a part where we will see as well as hear him. Am I asking for the moon?
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Yay!!! [Happy Dance]
He has a marvelous voice, so Benedict would be perfect. But he has the height and look of an elf as well. I'd prefer to see him, but hearing is good too!
Yay!!!
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>:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Grumble grumble grumble.
This article says the 2nd season of Sherlock might not air in the States until early 2012.
>:( >:( >:(
http://tellyspotting.org/2011/05/01/sherlock-2-set-for-late-2011early- 2012-premiere/
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Sigh...the trials we Holmsiacs have to bear!! :P
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Finally, I can read this thread!
Lynne and I watched 'A Study in Pink' the other night together, courtesy of Netflix, on my laptop, on our respective laps, as the sound was very soft.
Wow! Brilliant!
I had read 'Hound of the Baskervilles' ages ago as a kid, and enjoyed the film with Basil Rathbone. But, otherwise not a ACD fan. I tried to watch the Downey-Law bromance, but found it insufferable, and had to turn it off after 30 minutes.
This version caught me from the very beginning. Lynne too.
Mr. Cumberbatch's Sherlock is physically interesting: very pale, very dark, crystalline eyes; brilliance and insecurity portrayed perfectly.
Mr. Freeeman's Watson is an excellent foil: smart, needy, complex, all portrayed understatedly. The 'not my date' patter is fantastic.
I watched the second episode last night, and am saddened to understand they only made three!
London looks terrific--even with the 'blurred' effects.
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The dialogue is faster than any episode of 'The West Wing'! I may have to watch them again.
BTW, I loved seeing Rupert Graves again. (Freddy from 'A Room with a View' and Scudder from 'Maurice'.) (We're the same age. :P)
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I hope they will make more, it was brilliant. 8)
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Welcome to the club, Paul! I have yet to see the first one, but I have hopes they'll repeat all three before resuming new episodes. (Meanwhile, my LOTR bells are ringing knowing Martin is playing Bilbo and Benedict will be the voice of Smaug the dragon in "The Hobbit.")
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Yes, Tru. And thanks, Meryl.
OK, I'm watching the third (and last) one just now.
Best line(s):
Sherlock: "Meretricious"
Lestrade: "And Happy New Year"
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They are filming season 2 as we write. I'm disappointed at the subject for each of the 3 episodes, but there is not much I can do about it.
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Welcome to the club, Paul! I have yet to see the first one, but I have hopes they'll repeat all three before resuming new episodes. (Meanwhile, my LOTR bells are ringing knowing Martin is playing Bilbo and Benedict will be the voice of Smaug the dragon in "The Hobbit.")
Someone over on IMDb posted that they are going to repeat the episodes on "BBC" starting July 20 Wednesday. I don't know how that translates to other parts of the world.
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The dialogue is faster than any episode of 'The West Wing'! I may have to watch them again.
It bears repeating...and repeating...and repeating!!
BTW, I loved seeing Rupert Graves again. (Freddy from 'A Room with a View' and Scudder from 'Maurice'.) (We're the same age. :P)
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Scudder in a trench coat...I love him!!
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This was the last thread I looked at last night and so I dreamed about Sherlock. Don't remember many details except that he was working on the case of "Whatever Happened to August"! :laugh:
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This was the last thread I looked at last night and so I dreamed about Sherlock. Don't remember many details except that he was working on the case of "Whatever Happened to August"! :laugh:
Heh!
Our minds are funny places. I wished I'd dreamed of Sherlock! :-* :-* :-*
Instead, last thing I read was about the royal couple in California, and yeah, I dreamt about attending a soiree where the royal couple was to attend...
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Someone over on IMDb posted that they are going to repeat the episodes on "BBC" starting July 20 Wednesday. I don't know how that translates to other parts of the world.
Wow, thanks, del! I'll have to make a note of it. 8)
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I haven't seen it in the listings. Waaaahhhhh!!
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I also really enjoyed these episodes... I didn't think a Sherlock Holmes could be updated to the 21st century - but Sherlock's tendency to bluejack the smartphones of the entire press corps was a brilliant way to update him. My favorite bit of memorable dialogue is where one of the Scotland Yard detectives called him "a psychopath" and he retorted "High functioning sociopath, do your research."
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I haven't seen it in the listings. Waaaahhhhh!!
Me neither and I've been looking. :P
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does anyone know when new eps are set to air? I thought it was brilliant how they updated him for the 21st century
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Back in January they were saying the new episodes would be ready in September but I don't have any updated info. I'm keeping my Sunday evenings free in Sept though (except for Sept 11 when I have a date with Lady Liberty).
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does anyone know when new eps are set to air? I thought it was brilliant how they updated him for the 21st century
People on IMDb said originally it was to be fall of 2011, now they're saying it's going to be pushed to January 2012 in the U.S. :(
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People on IMDb said originally it was to be fall of 2011, now they're saying it's going to be pushed to January 2012 in the U.S. :(
Apparently after Ep 3 repeat showed on the BBC, an announcement came on that said Season 2 wasn't going to be shown in the UK until "winter" which means - according to people on IMDb - it won't air in the States until May 2012. >:( >:( >:(
According to the website, filming on the 2nd season just ended, so they'll be heading into post-production now.
Grrrrr.
They're telling us obviously the episodes will be on Youtube the second after they air, but I don't want to watch the series on Youtube where I have to sit in my not so comfortable computer chair and wait through endless buffering. I want to watch them on my nice flatscreen TV while comfy on my couch.
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Definitely a GDBOAUS but if you can't fix it, you gotta stand it. >:(
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In compensation, I'm reading Murder on Baker Street, a compendium of recent writings about SH. "The Case of the Borderlands Dandelions" by Howard Engel rings true and is quite compelling.
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Not about Sherlock, but some Cumberbatch goodness re "The Hobbit":
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTDJyCUAvdA&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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In compensation, I'm reading Murder on Baker Street, a compendium of recent writings about SH. "The Case of the Borderlands Dandelions" by Howard Engel rings true and is quite compelling.
Oops, missed your post. How was the book overall?
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Not about Sherlock, but some Cumberbatch goodness re "The Hobbit":
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTDJyCUAvdA&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
*sigh* Thanks for posting. :)
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The new season hit the BBC in the UK on New Years Day. :)
We won't get see the episodes in the US until May. >:( >:( >:(
I refuse to be spoiled, so I'm not reading any of the details but so far, response from the UK fans has been very positive.
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May!! That's a long time to wait! I wonder if the BBC will start selling the DVDs before that!
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Cumberbatch mania!
The Benedict Cumberbatch Situation
Posted: 01/25/2012 4:07 pm
There's a situation happening all across the world and so far, only the British news media seems to have reported upon it.
Right now there are numerous intelligent women across the land who are presently in crisis mode. It's all due to an actor whom you may or may not be aware of named Benedict Cumberbatch. You'll probably be very aware of him soon. He's currently shooting the new Star Trek movie, he appeared in Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy and War Horse, and he is the eponymous star of the BBC detective serial, Sherlock.
You also should know that Benedict Cumberbatch isn't a man. He's a situation that me and most of my friends are all having.
Since the last series of Sherlock aired, perfectly nice and law abiding ladies have been feverishly pirating copies of "The Reichenbach Fall" and posting dreamy GIFs of its climatic moments on tumblr. Clips from YouTube of Mr. Cumberbatch reading children's stories, imitating Alan Rickman and dancing to "Thriller" have been flooding Gmail inboxes across the globe. For my part, I actually built myself a "Cumbernest" this past weekend. Instead of leaving the house and meeting actual men, I surrounded my bed with wine, water, and British chocolate all in preparation to watch Cumberbatch star in the BBC movie Hawking. I then sent a friend multiple texts that essentially broke down to "Have you watched Hawking yet?", "Watch Hawking. Watch Hawking. Watch Hawking.", and finally, "MY NERVES."
So what is it about Benedict Cumberbatch that's so alluring? It's easy to see why women the world over swoon over Ryan Gosling (HERE -- I broke it down for you). But Benedict Cumberbatch doesn't burst off the screen in rainbows and moonbeams the way guys like the Gosling do. Firstly, there's his name. It's a mouth full, to be sure, and can easily be broken down into jokes like Benneton Crumblymats or, you know, something way dirtier. He's never wooed Rachel McAdams or recorded a love song. He's pretty much just spent the last decade or so toiling away in the theater and in television productions.
There is, of course, his face. His unusual, striking, fascinating face. As my friend Gaby put it, "He looks like a weird hot alien," to which I replied, "And you know how much I like aliens!"
The thing that makes him look like an attractive extraterrestrial are his now legendary cheekbones. Other cheekbones have come before: Johnny Depp's, Katharine Hepburn's, Skeletor's. However, Mr. Cumberbatch's cheekbones are so high and so valleyed that they've sliced their way not just into the psyches of his fans, but his screenwriters. There's not one, but two, flattering references in the new Sherlock series to his bone structure. In both cases, it's suggested that Sherlock is loved for his face alone, but we know that's not true.
There's also his slanted moonstone eyes. And his mouth. Mouths are always appreciated.
Okay, I kid. (Sort of.)
It's true Benedict Cumberbatch has been snatching the hearts and minds of women with his actual appearance, but he's also been doing it with the level of confidence he has in his own abilities. Let me explain...
Most up-and-coming actors fall into one of two categories. A few of them like the Jesse Eisenbergs and Robert Pattinsons of the world have either ample talent and/or ample charm and are afraid of these things within them. They mumble. They stutter. They feign awkwardness around their legions of admiring female fans. They star in films with Kristen Stewart. However, even more actors fall into the opposite category. I'm talking your James Francos or (shiver) Kellan Lutzes. These guys may have talent, but that talent is insignificant compared to the size of their egos. For example, I know that James Franco went to film school and that Kellan Lutz once read a book in a tree, but I've never seen a film that Franco made or heard Lutz speak an intelligible sentence while standing on the ground.
The most rare and impressive stars in Hollywood today are men like George Clooney, Brad Pitt and Jon Hamm. They're good at what they're hired to do, and mostly importantly, they know they're good. You're not going to hear these guys talk about how good their game is because they can just show it. George Clooney can sell depressing movies as mainstream, Brad Pitt can tame Angelina Jolie and Jon Hamm can just be a goober-about-town. They do what they want -- and don't brag about it -- because they know they can get the job done. These guys exude confidence and confidence is sexy, and confidence is also what Benedict Cumberbatch has. I mean, you'd need confidence to introduce yourself to people as "Benedict Cumberbatch," right?
Watch our dear Mr. Cumberbatch in any role and you'll see he knows what he is doing. He is neither showy nor needy in his actions. He boldly commits to his character and the results are spellbinding. When such a confident performer is joined with a famous character like Sherlock Holmes, whose every thought, twitch and action is executed with superhuman confidence, the result is a veritable supernova of confidence, and soon, typically independent young women like myself are building Cumbernests in their home. We're attracted to the confidence that Cumberbatch is exuding.
Oh, and yes, those cheekbones.
Of course, attraction is all a matter of taste and attraction to Cumberbatch isn't wholly universal.
"I don't know. I just have, like, a visceral reaction to his face," my friend Caitlin said over dinner to me last week.
I grinned. "I know, right?"
"No, no..." she shook her head as she unwittingly and poetically quoted T.S. Eliot, "That is not what I meant at all."
I just sipped my wine and shrugged and counted down the minutes until I could go home and finally start watching The Ends of the Earth on Netflix Instant Streaming. The Cumbernest called.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/meghan-okeefe/benedict-cumberbatch_b_1231634.html
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrYvn9Lw7tY[/youtube]
the man himself
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Just read in the latest Entertainment magazine that our Benedict has signed up for the sequel to Star Trek. ;D
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Oh, he would make a wonderful Vulcan!!
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I love Johnathan Ross. I would like to be able to watch his every show. He has the best interviews of celebs, of anyone I think.
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I love Johnathan Ross. I would like to be able to watch his every show. He has the best interviews of celebs, of anyone I think.
yeah.. he push the limits for talk shows. Thats way I like him.
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OMG, so hilarious! Otters that look like Benedict Cumberbatch! :laugh:
http://redscharlach.tumblr.com/post/19565284869/otters-who-look-like-benedict-cumberbatch-a
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I always thought that those kinds of quaintified names, were Dickensian inspired, or Jane Austen, etc. Only in England,
they seem to have them for real. I laugh at that kind of name. It just seems like a joke.
When he asked him if it was his real name, or a stage name, I laughed out loud. Who would pick that, if it wasn't real?
Cumberbatch, ;D
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OK, it's FINALLY (almost) May. >:( :)
When does PBS plan to air the 2nd season?
DVDs are not yet released on Amazon. You can pre-order them but they're not available yet.
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The New York Times
April 26, 2012
Role to Role, From Sherlock to ‘Star Trek’
By DAVE ITZKOFF
LOS ANGELES
HOW skilled a secret keeper is Benedict Cumberbatch if he readily confesses the easiest method for extracting secrets from him?
Asked somewhat frivolously for information about one of the many coming projects he cannot talk about, Mr. Cumberbatch, the 35-year-old British actor, offered an equally facetious response.
“You could stick a knife in my thigh, and I wouldn’t tell you,” he said a few weeks ago, relaxing on the deck of the Venice, Calif., home where he was staying. But he added: “Pull the hair on my head the wrong way, and I would be on my knees begging for mercy. I have very sensitive follicles.”
Deeper still within his head were numerous vital details that Mr. Cumberbatch’s work required him to keep locked away. There was not much he could say about his dual roles as a necromancer and a talking dragon in Peter Jackson’s film adaptation of “The Hobbit,” and even less about the part he was shooting in J. J. Abrams’s sequel to “Star Trek.” (“I’ve got to be a complete and utter tease,” he said, more gleeful than apologetic.)
What Mr. Cumberbatch can confirm is that these high-profile opportunities were made possible by the success of “Sherlock,” the television series that casts him as a cool and contemporary — if brutally rational — upgrade of Sherlock Holmes. It returns on May 6 for a second season on PBS’s “Masterpiece Mystery!”
In Britain, where “Sherlock” is shown on BBC One, the series has left millions of fans frantic to know the resolution of a season-ending cliffhanger, which American viewers have not yet seen, and transformed Mr. Cumberbatch (who already knows the outcome) from a well-regarded journeyman actor into a superstar.
And he makes no secret of his desire to see “Sherlock” enjoy similar acclaim in the land of “Mad Men” and “Modern Family.”
“I’m desperate for America to really take to this,” he said. “It has taken it into its heart as a cult thing, but I’d love it to hit the mainstream this time. Because I just think it’s of that quality, and it belongs there.”
In person the thin and muscular Mr. Cumberbatch shares the piercing gaze and sonorous, sinister voice of his Holmes but is warmer and more irreverent. He is a self-confessed motormouth and a relentless mimic who, over the course of an hour, adopted the shrieking voice of an admiring Valley girl; the Scottish burr of his friend and colleague James McAvoy; the synthesized speech of Stephen Hawking, whom he portrayed in a British TV movie; and the rapid, adenoidal clip of both Mr. Abrams and Steven Spielberg, who directed him in “War Horse.”
In similarly haphazard fashion Mr. Cumberbatch has spent the past 18 months ricocheting from role to role, in British stage productions like “After the Dance” and “Frankenstein” (for which he shared the Olivier Award this month with his co-star Jonny Lee Miller); a coming television version of “Parade’s End,” adapted by Tom Stoppard from the Ford Madox Ford novels; and films like “The Hobbit,” “War Horse” and “Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy.”
Last December, on vacation in Gloucestershire, England, he got the call that Mr. Abrams wanted him to submit a videotaped audition for “the not-so-good guy” (in Mr. Cumberbatch’s words) in the “Star Trek” sequel — and could not find anyone to film it for him.
“We observe this little Judeo-Christian cult holiday called Christmas,” Mr. Cumberbatch said sarcastically. “Whereas, you know, some kids in this part of town” — he circled his hands in the Los Angeles air — “with their Crackberrys, don’t.”
In a friend’s kitchen late at night, an agitated and weary Mr. Cumberbatch recorded his audition on an iPhone — “I was pretty strung out,” he said, “so that went into the performance” — and sent it to Mr. Abrams, only to be told the director was also on vacation.
Mr. Abrams, who saw the recording a few days later and hired Mr. Cumberbatch, wrote in an e-mail that it was “one of the most compelling audition readings I’d ever seen.”
But Mr. Abrams already knew this from Mr. Cumberbatch’s work on “Sherlock,” whose second season drew around 10 million viewers in Britain for each of three 90-minute episodes shown in January, according to the Broadcasters’ Audience Research Board. (By contrast, in the United States, the first season averaged 4.6 million viewers per episode, PBS said.) On Tuesday, Mr. Cumberbatch’s work on the show earned him a Bafta award nomination for best actor.
Steven Moffat, the television producer who created “Sherlock” with Mark Gatiss, recognized similar qualities in Mr. Cumberbatch after seeing him play a quietly frightening character in “Atonement.”
“His look is quirky,” said Mr. Moffat, who also produces the BBC’s hit revival of “Doctor Who.” “His appeal is quite intellectual. He’s not conventionally handsome — handsome by any normal human standard. But the screen is very demanding.” Mr. Cumberbatch, he added, is “not ever going to play an ordinary man.”
Mr. Moffat — who met with no other actors for the role — said he saw in Mr. Cumberbatch an actor ideally suited to play Holmes, but also one who was ready for an assignment that would significantly raise his profile.
“Little boys like to be heroes,” Mr. Moffat said. “You get to wear the coat and swagger about, and girls think he’s sexy. There’s a lot of things that playing Stephen Hawking can do, but that’s probably not one of them.”
Mr. Cumberbatch realized too that “Sherlock” would shine a spotlight on him in a way he hadn’t previously experienced. “I knew it would accelerate wherever I was at,” he said. “And I thought, I’m ready for this.”
But the increased scrutiny that arrived as abruptly as his fame made him think otherwise. The address of his London home became public knowledge when he applied to expand his apartment into the one beneath it, and his breakup with a girlfriend he’d known since college was much discussed in the tabloids.
Since coming to California to work on “Star Trek,” Mr. Cumberbatch said, there had been “a huge blogging response to me selling out to Hollywood and dating a model and become a walking cliché. That was nice.” He also discovered a Web site that juxtaposes his facial expressions from “Sherlock” with images of otters in similar poses. He said it was “brilliant” and “fantastic.”
Mr. McAvoy, who appeared with Mr. Cumberbatch in “Atonement” and “Starter for 10,” said the toughest challenge he faced was not the glaring eye of fans or the news media but a self-imposed demand to live up to the expectations of his fellow actors.
“Your peers look at you and go, ‘All right, you’ve got this opportunity and this ability — step up and be good every time,’ ” Mr. McAvoy said.
Even so, he said that for as long as he had known Mr. Cumberbatch he has worked steadily in many enviable roles and “has occupied a position within the industry that people would chop his legs off to get, so I imagine he’s used to dealing with that sort of pressure.”
Season 2 of “Sherlock,” which presents 21st-century takes on the classic Holmes adventures “A Scandal in Bohemia,” “The Hound of the Baskervilles” and “The Final Problem,” offers Mr. Cumberbatch further opportunity to build on his portrait of the consulting detective as a cocky but not fully formed young man.
Paired once again with Dr. John Watson (Martin Freeman), Holmes is drawn further into his rivalry with the archfiend Jim Moriarty (Andrew Scott) and meets the mysterious Irene Adler (Lara Pulver), who stirs some decidedly warm feelings beneath the character’s coldblooded facade.
“The most prominent attraction is of the mind,” Ms. Pulver said. “Otherwise it would have literally been an episode of two people wanting to rip each other’s clothes off, and we’ve all seen that.”
Though his Holmes is meant to be lacking in social graces, Mr. Cumberbatch rejected a popular interpretation that the character has Asperger syndrome.
“He’s a high-functioning sociopath,” he said. “He has a general disregard for standard codes of conduct, pleasantries, niceties. He wants to cut to the chase. He wants everything to be faster and better and purer.”
Mr. Cumberbatch could at least relate to this aspect of the character. He recalled an encounter he’d had in January at the Golden Globe Awards, where the PBS “Masterpiece” executive producer Rebecca Eaton taunted him affectionately with a trophy that had just been won by “Downton Abbey.”
He said: “I just looked at it and went: ‘Begone, woman. Bring it back when it says “Sherlock Holmes” or Steven Moffat or myself — someone else who’s more deserving than the second series of “Downton Abbey.” ’ ”
Exhibiting a diplomacy that his Holmes is not known for, Mr. Cumberbatch stopped himself from saying anything more about the rival television series.
“I know too many people who are in it,” he said. “I thought the first series was good. That’s what I’ll say.”
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He also discovered a Web site that juxtaposes his facial expressions from “Sherlock” with images of otters in similar poses. He said it was “brilliant” and “fantastic.”
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This has quickly become one of my favorite shows. I love Mr Cumberbatch as well. He seems to be playing the
character with a renewed verve. I know its greatly different because of the time frame. That however is not the reason
that I have noticed such a difference from the always accepted way that he has been interpreted.
The other interpretations has always had him being very strident and unbendinly secure in everything he thinks. He
always seems to have a decision made. Then trying to find evidence to prove himself right.
This character seems to be thinking on his feet, and often willing to change his mind if the information warrants it.
I too was under the impression that the two main characters were lovers. I got several hints, and they make off
hand remarks tht lead in that direction. Its not overt, but there. Now they seem to be saying he is going to fall for a
woman. Maybe he is bi sexual.. ?//
May be wrong, I too am willing to accept new information.. It is just my interpretation of it.
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This has quickly become one of my favorite shows. I love Mr Cumberbatch as well. He seems to be playing the
character with a renewed verve. I know its greatly different because of the time frame. That however is not the reason
that I have noticed such a difference from the always accepted way that he has been interpreted.
The other interpretations has always had him being very strident and unbendinly secure in everything he thinks. He
always seems to have a decision made. Then trying to find evidence to prove himself right.
This character seems to be thinking on his feet, and often willing to change his mind if the information warrants it.
I too was under the impression that the two main characters were lovers. I got several hints, and they make off
hand remarks tht lead in that direction. Its not overt, but there. Now they seem to be saying he is going to fall for a
woman. Maybe he is bi sexual.. ?//
May be wrong, I too am willing to accept new information.. It is just my interpretation of it.
I haven't been on any Sherlock boards since last fall since I didn't want to be spoiled for the new season, but many of us were afraid they'd go the Sherlock-falls-for-Irene route since they were doing that episode. I sincerely hope not. The producers had been trying to stick close to the original stories as much as possible, and the episode with Irene Adler has NOTHING to do with a romance, unrequited, from a distance or otherwise. I hope they didn't sell out for the sake of trying to reassure a larger audience of Sherlock's heterosexuality.
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Many of us were afraid they'd go the Sherlock-falls-for-Irene route since they were doing that episode. I sincerely hope not. The producers had been trying to stick close to the original stories as much as possible, and the episode with Irene Adler has NOTHING to do with a romance, unrequited, from a distance or otherwise. I hope they didn't sell out for the sake of trying to reassure a larger audience of Sherlock's heterosexuality.
"To Sherlock Holmes, she is always the woman. I have seldom heard him mention her under any other name. ... It was not that he felt any emotion akin to love for Irene Adler. All emotions, and that one particularly, were abhorrent to his cold, precise but admirably balanced mind. ... He never spoke of the softer passions, save with a gibe and a sneer. ... And yet there was but one woman to him, and that woman was the late Irene Adler, of dubious and questionable memory."
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"To Sherlock Holmes, she is always the woman. I have seldom heard him mention her under any other name. ... It was not that he felt any emotion akin to love for Irene Adler. All emotions, and that one particularly, were abhorrent to his cold, precise but admirably balanced mind. ... He never spoke of the softer passions, save with a gibe and a sneer. ... And yet there was but one woman to him, and that woman was the late Irene Adler, of dubious and questionable memory."
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I hope they stick to it. :-\
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I hope so as well.
I love this show for being what I consider more true to the real characters because they show what
is pretty overt conversation that allows one to think in terms of homosexuality. I was wondering if they were
possibly going to change that line in order to appeal to the larger demographic in the USA.
Please excuse any typos. My computer is acting like a spoiled child now. Having trouble keeping it in a straight line. It is
jumping around and skipping some letters...ggggggggguuuh
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So, according to what I just read in this morning's Metro, they're making Irene Adler into ... a dominatrix?
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oh FFS...
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So, according to what I just read in this morning's Metro, they're making Irene Adler into ... a dominatrix?
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oh FFS...
Well, I guess that could create a real scandal in Bohemia. ... :laugh:
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This is such a good show. I hope they don't screw it up..
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They screwed it up.
HATED HATED HATED HATED HATED >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
the Irene Adler episode
It had some good parts in it - devastating scenes - but her character is awful and Sherlock's reaction to her is just ridiculous.
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Last season ended on a cliffhanger and promised intensity, violence and emotion and instead, it fizzled out immediately. COMPLETELY anti-climatic. I sat there and thought - I waited 18 months for THIS? >:( That should have tipped me off.
Sherlock's character's emotions were all over the chart in this episode. He ran hot and cold throughout. Emotional things that he completely dismissed in last seasons's episodes he stumbled over in this one. For a second, with a good scene with his brother, I thought he screwed his head back on straight, but no. He cared, he didn't care, he cared, he didn't care, sometimes all within a few seconds.
And really? Just because Adler took off her clothes was enough to derail him? He has figured out things from earrings and lipstick and perfume on women before but he draws a blank on her simply because she's naked?
I HATED that. How idiotic and stereotypical.
The writing treated Sherlock like a horny teenaged boy who falls apart completely in the presence of a naked woman who's coming on to him.
The oldest trick in the book and we're expected to believe Sherlock was completely blindsided by this? Really? I mean, really?
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
So ghastly unhappy with this episode's portrayal of Sherlock. The great Sherlock, able to see through anyone and anything, except if you're a woman all you have to do is take your clothes off and flirt with him and his great brain screeches to a halt like a pubescent boy and he can't think straight. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Treat him with contempt, be a selfish, greedy, unrepentant user bitch who is involved with career criminals and terrorists who threaten the lives of innocent people, flirt and talk nasty and he becomes a devoted idiot.
The ending was just stupid.
Mycroft said he was very thorough 'this time'. Apparently not if you can believe he did DNA testing on a headless corpse and couldn't figure it out. And Mycroft is supposed to be much smarter than his brother. And really? Sherlock could penetrate some anonymous terrorist cell with his looks? Does he speak Arabic? No one noticed him? He could be away for the months and years it takes to infiltrate a group and John never noticed? Really?
AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL episode. Horrible writing.
The only interesting things we find out is that we find out Sherlock is a virgin and John is done with Sarah and has gone through 3 other girlfriends since and Mycroft's assistant has been compromised and oh, yeah, Irene Adler claims to be gay but is in love with Sherlock. Whatever. ::)
I feel so let down by this episode.
My hopes for this season and excitement about the next episodes have fallen flat.
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Well now I feel better. I fell asleep and didn't wake until it was over. I was so mad. I am rather glad now that I didn't see it.
Sounds like they did just what I was afraid the they were going to do, from the previews... guuuuhhh
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I'm going to have to watch the encore presentation because I was out all day yesterday, and although looking forward to 'Sherlock', I think I was a bit tired and my concentration was a bit off.
A couple of things:
Irene is well aware of Sherlock's ability to read people, so when she appeared naked (in "battle dress") as she called it, it was to block him, he was "drawing blanks" because without clothing or grooming to go by, he couldn't read her. Sherlock has been shown to zero in on these attributes and can read a person or a suspect like a book. It's interesting that Sherlock doesn't like to wear clothes either.
I don't think Sherlock was moved by her, other than gaining a healthy respect for her intellect. He is not someone who lets convention nor emotion affect him. In any battle of wits, someone has to lose, and I don't think Sherlock's turning the tables on her made her any less worthy an adversary. I think she admired his reputation and intellect and was challenged by it. Maybe they are two of a kind in that way. It was pretty heart-stopping when Sherlock cracked the code to her mechanical heart - I felt it!
I always like to think that he has such an affect on Dr. Watson too - not necessarly because of his gender but because he is such a charismatic person. Irene is very observant, and wears many hats herself - the exchange with her and Dr. Watson was interesting.
I wonder if she will turn up again in future episodes? There may be more to the ending than meets the eye. Do I think Sherlock could infiltrate a terrorist cell between American and British intelligence? Absolutely.
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A couple of things:
Irene is well aware of Sherlock's ability to read people, so when she appeared naked (in "battle dress") as she called it, it was to block him, he was "drawing blanks" because without clothing or grooming to go by, he couldn't read her. Sherlock has been shown to zero in on these attributes and can read a person or a suspect like a book.
The problem I had with this Marina is that Sherlock has deduced things from index fingers, calluses on feet, hair color, veins in the eyes, women's jewelry and makeup before (Molly, the Pink Lady, the art museum guard in Season 1 and Jim from the hospital). Irene wears heavy makeup and jewelry and obviously has hair, feet and hands, yet he draws a complete blank?
That was unbelievable.
I don't think Sherlock was moved by her, other than gaining a healthy respect for her intellect. He is not someone who lets convention nor emotion affect him. In any battle of wits, someone has to lose, and I don't think Sherlock's turning the tables on her made her any less worthy an adversary. I think she admired his reputation and intellect and was challenged by it. Maybe they are two of a kind in that way.
I didn't get this at all. At the end, he knows she fell for him because of the pulse thing.
Yet earlier, in her meeting with John ("We're not a couple", "Oh, yes you are.") she told John she was gay.
Is she gay or bi or just a liar? That completely throws doubt on the end.
And why would Sherlock rescue her 'intellect', help her out, when she's aiding and abetting terrorist groups who now have free rein to blow up an airplane thanks to her - and Sherlock?
I found that fact just indicative of Sherlock's callousness and extremely disturbing.
What did Lestrade say in the first Season?
"He's a great man. And one day, if we're lucky, he might even be a good one."
This is certainly Sherlock NOT being a good man.
And Sherlock's own words,
"Don't make people into heroes John, heroes don't exist and if they did, I wouldn't be one of them."
You can say that again.
He's only interested in her for what she can do for him. The fact many many people will die and have died because of her and his actions for her is not a concern of his. When that plane blows up, Sherlock has their blood on his hands as much as her and her cohorts.
It was pretty heart-stopping when Sherlock cracked the code to her mechanical heart - I felt it!
The ending, when he finally figures it out, is one of the best scenes. Mycroft rips Sherlock a new one - and deservedly so. And I wish Sherlock had been sincere in his distance from her, but IMO, he wasn't - that was born out by his actions at the very end.
He helped a fucking murderer, blackmailer, terrorist and extortionist get away from her just desserts and he smiles about it.
I was SO disappointed.
I always like to think that he has such an affect on Dr. Watson too - not necessarly because of his gender but because he is such a charismatic person. Irene is very observant, and wears many hats herself - the exchange with her and Dr. Watson was interesting.
He is charismatic, but he's also a pain. She had zero interaction with Sherlock except for a few stupidly stereotyped moments. And yet she 'falls for him'? She invited him out many times and not only did he not go, he never responded to her texts. What in the world did either of them fall for?
Her intellect was not astonishing at all. She was just a survivor and a liar and though Sherlock is used to dealing with them as we've all seen, yet he doesn't do it with her. The biggest part of her character? She's a dominatrix. What would be your first idea on how to handle her? By acting passive, letting her dominate and then not doing what she wants but thinking he's letting her get her way.
But he lets her get her way.
Why?
I have no answer other than bad writing.
I hated the cliff hanger resolution, the Irene Adler arc, but the other parts of the episode I loved. His interactions with Molly, Mrs. Hudson, Lestrade were all classic Sherlock. His scenes with his brother were intense and extremely well done. His scenes with John were great. The Palace scene and fight scene were hysterical. I burst out laughing in my seat. John realizes how good it feels to punch Sherlock and then takes the opportunity to purge his months of frustration by throwing down on the man. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
When you mention caring though...when the CIA were threatening to shoot John and had the gun to his head, Sherlock was all but frantic to save him. IMO, despite his moping when he thought Irene was dead, I think John's death would have hit him much harder.
I wonder if she will turn up again in future episodes? There may be more to the ending than meets the eye.
I have been told yes, but I didn't want to be spoiled, so I didn't read any further. I was SO hoping we'd seen the last of her and fan outcry against her character would keep the writers from writing her back in.
Do I think Sherlock could infiltrate a terrorist cell between American and British intelligence? Absolutely.
Me, too. But not an radical Muslim one, which is what we're expected to believe he did in order to save Irene. The US couldn't do it in 10 years with Bin Laden with ethnic and native speaking spies, yet Sherlock can do it in such a quick time that John doesn't even notice he's missing? ::)
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Now that's more like it.
2nd episode of the 2nd season was exactly what I hope for in a Sherlock episode.
The Hound of the Baskerville
Lots of rapid fire dialogue. Sherlock on overdrive and overload. Good relationship building. Lots of tension and seriously creepy moor scenes.
Luckily, Sherlock was with John the entire time, not separated for most of the mystery, unlike the original episode.
Funny to see Sherlock drive. He never drives.
His addiction also comes to the fore briefly - out of boredom.
I give this episode a thumbs up.
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Also liked the brief exchange, between John and that other guy. He asked him if "his," snored too?" John just look so perplexed, as if
he couldn't figure out how to answer that, then ultimately didn't. Just looked kind of tired, and walked off.
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Also liked the brief exchange, between John and that other guy. He asked him if "his," snored too?" John just look so perplexed, as if
he couldn't figure out how to answer that, then ultimately didn't. Just looked kind of tired, and walked off.
Yes, it finally happened!! What I'd hoped would eventually happen!
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John gets fed up refuting the assumption and just lets it go. It doesn't matter anymore if people think they're a couple.
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I know, it's like everyone can see that they are a couple. :)
I liked this episode too - a more traditional Sherlock Holmes story update. Sherlock also seems to be gaining just the tiniest bit of sensitivity to others' feelings? :) I love him.
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OK, anyone understand the last episode of this season? ???
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What is Moriarty's motive? He has absolutely NO reason to kill himself.
How in the world did Sherlock fake his death? I know the thing with Molly is a hint, but he didn't switch bodies on the roof, he actually did fall and that was too far a fall to survive without serious injuries. Did they not have an open casket funeral? John knows a dead body when he sees one.
Was Moriarty pissed off because Sherlock WAS actually smarter than him? And just as amoral? Sherlock was a 'doofus' not because he couldn't figure out Moriarty, but because Moriarty wasn't as smart as Sherlock expected him to be? He was expecting Moriarty to be some genius criminal, but he wasn't? Is that why Moriarty killed himself?
I can't believe Lestrade would EVER doubt Sherlock. He was right too many times with just cold explanations of people that were right. He can't have 'faked' that.
I love how John NEVER doubted Sherlock.
While the reporter/actor thing was clever, the woman was a crappy 'investigative reporter' because she accepted a notebook full of easily faked 'documents' as evidence Richard Brook was an actor.
I do love how Mycroft was used to destroy his own brother. I can't imagine how Sherlock could ever forgive him. BTW, where was Mycroft for the funeral?
Any help guys?
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I love how John NEVER doubted Sherlock.
Me too - this is my favorite episode so far, and now we have to wait till next season for the answers!
I think Molly is involved too in the faked death(s), but I'm still considering this episode. I have to watch it again.
I love when Sherlock says "I may be on the side of the angels, but I am not one of them". Benedict is great, and so is Martin! :)
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Me too - this is my favorite episode so far, and now we have to wait till next season for the answers!
I think Molly is involved too in the faked death(s), but I'm still considering this episode. I have to watch it again.
I love when Sherlock says "I may be on the side of the angels, but I am not one of them". Benedict is great, and so is Martin! :)
I think it's my favorite as well. It's puzzling. I'll have to watch it many more times to try to think it through.
I do love the beginning where Sherlock is following John's lead on everything,
Sherlock: "Diamond cufflinks, all my shirts have buttons..."
John: "Say thank you."
Sherlock: "Thank you."
Lestrade: "We all pitched in..." [and got a deerstalker hat]
Crowd: "Put it on, put it on!"
John: "Just get it over with."
Sherlock puts the hat on
I even like John's protectiveness of Sherlock when he has to go to court and testify and has to run the gauntlet of press.
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I hope I can catch a repeat of this episode. It all goes by so fast, and there are so many details to consider.
Just a thought, but when the little girl screamed at the sight of Sherlock, there was something said about an idea having been planted in her by the kidnapper. What if the last bit was all some sort of hallucination? At any rate, if Sherlock is alive, I'm sure Moriarty is, too. Also, Moriarty would be a fool to get rid of the one person who can appreciate his machinations.
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I am confused Meryl. Did you not see the end. Where Watson was crying over Sherlock's grave? He was asking him to ''please please play one more trick on him. Be allive." Then it showed Sherlock watching him walking away. He was in the shadows of the trees? I was very glad about that, but I am wondering if he is going to continue to stay hidden or come out and see Watson again? I love the connection of these two men in ther present characters. They have so much of that apparent chemistry, and care for each other. I think that Watson is the only person that Sherlock has ever had fond feeling for. Even his brother who he cares for in the almost-- "I have to respect him kind of way." At any rate, I cannot wait for the return of next season.
I am appaled by the one that is supposed to be on here in America. A woman, playing Watson? WTH. I don't care for Lucy Lou, anyhow, and that willl make it worse.. I won't even watch that stupid premise...
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I am confused Meryl. Did you not see the end. Where Watson was crying over Sherlock's grave? He was asking him to ''please please play one more trick on him. Be allive." Then it showed Sherlock watching him walking away. He was in the shadows of the trees? I was very glad about that, but I am wondering if he is going to continue to stay hidden or come out and see Watson again? I love the connection of these two men in ther present characters. They have so much of that apparent chemistry, and care for each other. I think that Watson is the only person that Sherlock has ever had fond feeling for. Even his brother who he cares for in the almost-- "I have to respect him kind of way." At any rate, I cannot wait for the return of next season.
I am appaled by the one that is supposed to be on here in America. A woman, playing Watson? WTH. I don't care for Lucy Lou, anyhow, and that willl make it worse.. I won't even watch that stupid premise...
The episode for all its dizzying and puzzling ins and outs was touching. The episode starts and ends with John's grief. At the end, it's just wrenching. Listening to the soldier, standing near the grave, begging his friend to pull off one last miracle.
"For me...for me..."
And of course, the sweetness of it all is that Sherlock did exactly that. He did pull off a miracle, he stayed alive. And he did it for John. To save him.
[swoon]
I can't imagine what their reunion will be like. Though I have some fantasies... 8)
Anyway, in the story of their reunion, Watson fainted. The producers of our Sherlock say theirs won't be so dramatic.
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I am appaled by the one that is supposed to be on here in America. A woman, playing Watson? WTH. I don't care for Lucy Lou, anyhow, and that willl make it worse.. I won't even watch that stupid premise...
Depending on when it's scheduled, I'll at least check it out. I like Jonny Lee Miller. :)
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I just watched a repeat of the show. Somehow, Sherlock faked his suicide, with the help of Molly.
Another small thing. Moriarty shakes hands with Sherlock before shooting himself. The assassins that saved Sherlock's life both touched him before they were shot.
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What I get from all of this is we are all in love with this show... :-*
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I just watched a repeat of the show. Somehow, Sherlock faked his suicide, with the help of Molly.
Another small thing. Moriarty shakes hands with Sherlock before shooting himself. The assassins that saved Sherlock's life both touched him before they were shot.
Rumors have been flying since the show aired in the UK in January.
In his live chat, Moffat has been hinting that Sherlock has all he needs in the episode to show how he saved himself. But people have also said Moffat is a troll and likes to mislead fans. Still no one can figure it out without jumping the shark. Rumors are about dopplegangers, a switch with Moriarty's body, landing on a cushion on a truck roof parked in the bus lane 20 feet away, while Molly dumps a dead body dressed like Sherlock out the window where John and the sniper can't see, just ridiculous stuff that I'd hate to think will actually prove to be the case.
Why couldn't they have just used a waterfall like in the original ACD story? >:(
Yes we love this series, and want to make sure it's done right.
I can't imagine how the body got ID'd as Sherlock's without Molly doing the post-mortem, though she's not a pathologist and is just a lab tech and would have no way to fix the records. Unless Mycroft helped, since he would be the next of kin to ID the body and claim it at the morgue. But considering how he completely fucked up his brother's life, I wonder that he would dare show his head.
Anyway, lots of questions, don't see much of a way out without it being a groaner.
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Interesting theories, but who knows. It's fun to speculate. But I definitely think there's a point when Sherlock knows he'll have to fake his death and goes immediately to Molly to hatch something, so we'll see.
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i always wondered too about the original story, when he jumped off the gorge and took Morierty with him. If there was some
other way it was going to end. If there was another story somewhere to change it all. I don't really believe it, but as with Watson, I was always hoping it would turn out differently. Show us one more trick Sherlock, just one more.
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I always wondered too about the original story, when he jumped off the gorge and took Morierty with him. If there was some
other way it was going to end. If there was another story somewhere to change it all.
I recall reading somewhere that ACD really did want to kill off his creation--he was thoroughly sick of Sherlock--but somehow even "back then" the fan uproar was so great that he was more or less forced to bring Sherlock back.
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The series final and I am sure more of the others as well are now available on Itunes, for $19.00
I think I may purchase those, I love this series of books, and this series of televion shows has been wonderful. I will then be
able to revisit it at my leisure.
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I can't wait until next season to see him explain his way out of this one.
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I can't wait until next season to see him explain his way out of this one.
I just hope it's a good explanation.
I'm looking forward to how he's going to reveal himself to John. ;D I keep imagining a sock to the jaw and then an emotional hug like Ennis and Jack at the lake near Brokeback mountain. 8)
For those who read the stories, I think Sherlock pretended to be dead so as to destroy his enemies covertly. then he could safely reveal himself to John and return to his life at 221B Baker Street.
Is that right?
If so, did Sherlock have an adventure by himself where he did this? I'm just wondering how Season 3 opener might go...
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Boy you got me. I have no idea how that is going to play out. Can't wait to see it...
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OK, someone said that Sherlock just shows up after 3 years. He's spent the intervening time tracking down and destroying Moriarty's network.
Arguments go that that much time won't pass because 3 years is reasonable travel time in the Victorian age. Less so in the 21st century.
My disagreement with what they did in this episode is this is the age of the internet.
Unless there is some spectacular series of arrests and very public trials of Moriarty's organized crime cronies, Sherlock will never escape the sordid story of the reporter because in the age of 9/11 truthers and birther conspiracy nuts, anything he does that is triumphant will be looked at with doubt and skepticism no matter what.
BTW, anyone know what it is John can't say at the end of the episode to his therapist?
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I think Holmes had another body ready to go to look like him. I also think that the lab assistant Molly helped him; remember how he said she was the only one that could? Holmes could have taken a body from the autopsy place with Molly's help and added gorey makeup to looked like himself. Then Holmes jumped onto the garbage truck and slipped away. But I think there was a clue when Moriarty shook Holme's hand; Moriarty died soon after that to fulfill a pattern. All the assassins died right after they shook Holmes' hand. What do you think? 8)
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I think Holmes had another body ready to go to look like him. I also think that the lab assistant Molly helped him; remember how he said she was the only one that could? Holmes could have taken a body from the autopsy place with Molly's help and added gorey makeup to looked like himself. Then Holmes jumped onto the garbage truck and slipped away. But I think there was a clue when Moriarty shook Holme's hand; Moriarty died soon after that to fulfill a pattern. All the assassins died right after they shook Holmes' hand. What do you think? 8)
Sounds good to me.
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I think Holmes had another body ready to go to look like him. I also think that the lab assistant Molly helped him; remember how he said she was the only one that could? Holmes could have taken a body from the autopsy place with Molly's help and added gorey makeup to looked like himself. Then Holmes jumped onto the garbage truck and slipped away. But I think there was a clue when Moriarty shook Holme's hand; Moriarty died soon after that to fulfill a pattern. All the assassins died right after they shook Holmes' hand. What do you think? 8)
We're on the same page here. I was thinking the same thing about the handshake.
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Quote from: jhsu123 on Today at 07:22:23 pm
I think Holmes had another body ready to go to look like him. I also think that the lab assistant Molly helped him; remember how he said she was the only one that could? Holmes could have taken a body from the autopsy place with Molly's help and added gorey makeup to looked like himself. Then Holmes jumped onto the garbage truck and slipped away. But I think there was a clue when Moriarty shook Holme's hand; Moriarty died soon after that to fulfill a pattern. All the assassins died right after they shook Holmes' hand. What do you think?
We're on the same page here. I was thinking the same thing about the handshake.
I wonder if someone else was watching Moriarty and has more power over him. Why kill off the arch nemesis? He could also live another day... Did Moriarty have someone else standing in for him? Why did he have to kill himself?
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I wonder if someone else was watching Moriarty and has more power over him. Why kill off the arch nemesis? He could also live another day... Did Moriarty have someone else standing in for him? Why did he have to kill himself?
If Holmes is alive, why not Moriarty? Writers are good at this stuff. ;)
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Well......to be honest, they are able to cut and paste, and retape a million different parts of scenes in order to make it happen in any way the want to. It is not like it is a constant stream photo...........
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Quote from: jhsu123 on Today at 07:22:23 pm
I think Holmes had another body ready to go to look like him. I also think that the lab assistant Molly helped him; remember how he said she was the only one that could? Holmes could have taken a body from the autopsy place with Molly's help and added gorey makeup to looked like himself. Then Holmes jumped onto the garbage truck and slipped away. But I think there was a clue when Moriarty shook Holme's hand; Moriarty died soon after that to fulfill a pattern. All the assassins died right after they shook Holmes' hand. What do you think?
I wonder if someone else was watching Moriarty and has more power over him. Why kill off the arch nemesis? He could also live another day... Did Moriarty have someone else standing in for him? Why did he have to kill himself?
Because Arthur Conan Doyle did. Moriarty was only in a few stories. The producers are hewing to the tradition. Moriarty was an archnemesis, then he was killed by Sherlock. Sherlock lived to have many more adventures, Moriarty was pushing up daisies.
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Because Arthur Conan Doyle did. Moriarty was only in a few stories. The producers are hewing to the tradition. Moriarty was an archnemesis, then he was killed by Sherlock. Sherlock lived to have many more adventures, Moriarty was pushing up daisies.
But the actor, Andrew Scott, is so amazing as the new Moriarty! I like the way he portrayed him, interpreting him in a totally different way; the guy is genius and psycho mad in a very understated way. I would love to see him back from time to time battling wits with Holmes! Cumberbatch is great!
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But the actor, Andrew Scott, is so amazing as the new Moriarty! I like the way he portrayed him, interpreting him in a totally different way; the guy is genius and psycho mad in a very understated way. I would love to see him back from time to time battling wits with Holmes! Cumberbatch is great!
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/sherlock/moriarty.html
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What?
WHAT?
Tell you what: I watched half an episode of the series a while ago (don't even know which one), and found it boring. So I didn't watch again, even though hubby likes it and told me it's good.
Last night another episode was aired and I joined him for the end tail of it. Guess what? It was the last episode of the season. The exact one y'all are talking about! And I'm totally hooked/baffled/WTFed about the end. :laugh:
First thing this morning was to check this thread, only to find out you aren't any wiser than I am. :laugh:
How the heck are they going to explain their way out of this? I sure hope they'll come up with something good, and that won't be a groaner.
I hope to catch a rerun of the episode today (of any episode really). Might not be so boring after all and I want to give it a second chance.
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What?
WHAT?
Tell you what: I watched half an episode of the series a while ago (don't even know which one), and found it boring. So I didn't watch again, even though hubby likes it and told me it's good.
Last night another episode was aired and I joined him for the end tail of it. Guess what? It was the last episode of the season. The exact one y'all are talking about! And I'm totally hooked/baffled/WTFed about the end. :laugh:
First thing this morning was to check this thread, only to find out you aren't any wiser than I am. :laugh:
How the heck are they going to explain their way out of this? I sure hope they'll come up with something good, and that won't be a groaner.
I hope to catch a rerun of the episode today (of any episode really). Might not be so boring after all and I want to give it a second chance.
I'm not sure if you are in the US or the UK, but the May 20th showing was the last episode of the 2nd Season shown in the US, with Moriarty and Holmes on the rooftop. You may need to buy the DVD on PBS.org. There are parts of the show that went by so quickly, that it's great fodder to discuss how Holmes faked his death. I am looking forward to Season 3, which won't be filmed until 2013 since Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman will be busy filming the Hobbit! In the meantime, if you are looking for more possible theories as to what happened, here's a link: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/sherlock/season2_fall.html
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I'm not sure if you are in the US or the UK,
Neither one; I'm in Germany.
but the May 20th showing was the last episode of the 2nd Season shown in the US, with Moriarty and Holmes on the rooftop.
Yep, that was exactly the one. It was shown here last night.
I am looking forward to Season 3, which won't be filmed until 2013
Again: What? 2013?
:o
Oh my, I didn't think it'd be that long. :-\
Well, it gives me time to catch up on all episodes shown so far. :)
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Neither one; I'm in Germany.
Yep, that was exactly the one. It was shown here last night.
Again: What? 2013?
:o
Oh my, I didn't think it'd be that long. :-\
Well, it gives me time to catch up on all episodes shown so far. :)
Yes, you'll have time. There were 3 episodes for Season 1 and 3 for Season 2. They are 90 minutes long and are action packed. You'll need to buy the DVD. I recommend going through them a couple of times, especially for the last episode. You'll see "clues" that some of us have picked up for our discussion. Cheers!
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Snippet from Live Journal about Benedict Cumberbatch's doings:
In a recent interview with InStyle magazine, Benedict Cumberbatch said he visited the London Zoo to study the reptiles in preparation for his role as Smaug the dragon.
"It’s an extrapolation of a performance into something other than an actor. But essentially, you’re still doing a scene."
Cumberbatch who also stars in the up-coming Star Trek 2 and plays Sherlock Holmes in Sherlock says that his acting parents helped him learn the importance of professionalism.
In other Cumberbatch news, apparently he’s also landed a small guest spot on the Simpsons. Its been recorded, but no word yet on when it might air, or what the part involved.
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Snippet from Live Journal about Benedict Cumberbatch's doings:
In a recent interview with InStyle magazine, Benedict Cumberbatch said he visited the London Zoo to study the reptiles in preparation for his role as Smaug the dragon.
"It’s an extrapolation of a performance into something other than an actor. But essentially, you’re still doing a scene."
Cumberbatch who also stars in the up-coming Star Trek 2 and plays Sherlock Holmes in Sherlock says that his acting parents helped him learn the importance of professionalism.
In other Cumberbatch news, apparently he’s also landed a small guest spot on the Simpsons. Its been recorded, but no word yet on when it might air, or what the part involved.
Yeah, someone on IMDb reported this. Apparently the Simpsons folks were right next door to where he was filming and he basically barged in and asked in his nice, British accent, alpha male way to have a part. So they obliged and rewrote a part for him. Apparently Moffat/Gattis was right. Benedict looks and acts so self-deprecating, but he does sort of 'take over a room' whenever he's in one. 8)
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It will get an Americanized update this fall with Jonathan Miller and Lucy Liu as Sherlock Holmes and Watson in "Elementary".
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrDVSxNycKc[/youtube]
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Thanks, Bruce.
Well, who knows when we'll get more of Benedict and Martin?
I had never heard of Jonny Lee Miller--IMDb says he was once married to Angeline Jolie. But Lucy Liu and Aidan Quinn? Sounds good to me.
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I had never heard of Jonny Lee Miller--IMDb says he was once married to Angeline Jolie. But Lucy Liu and Aidan Quinn? Sounds good to me.
I liked him in his brief stint on TV as Eli Stone, but the show didn't last very long.
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Here's a link to a Tumblr blog about Benedict Cumberbatch. It sounds like his new series, "Parade's End," on the BBC is going to be a winner. 8)
http://cumberbatchweb.tumblr.com/day/2012/08/19
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It will get an Americanized update this fall with Jonathan Miller and Lucy Liu as Sherlock Holmes and Watson in "Elementary".
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrDVSxNycKc[/youtube]
I just watched the premiere of Elementary, and it was personally painful for me. There was something disturbing about the pallid face of Jonny Miller that bothered me, but even more so was the fleeting expression that occasionally crossed his face that said "Oh dear, you've found me out." I often wanted to take Lucy Liu, playing Dr. Watson, aside and say, "Just walk away, now while you can". Then, when he (SPOILER ALERT) took her car keys and crashed her car into that of the villain, I...was hooked.
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I doubt Elementary will last more than one season. I cannot say that the debut episode disappointed me, but I wouldn't be watching the series in the first place if it weren't for Jonny Lee Miller--and him I absolutely loved as Sherlock Holmes. I consider him a worthy heir to the late Jeremy Brett, who for my money was the best Sherlock Holmes ever. I even thought that Lucy Liu made a pretty darn good female Watson. But my response to the show was muted at best.
I guess perhaps my muted response is based on the fact that for me, much of the attraction of the Sherlock Holmes stories is that they are for us period pieces--of course they weren't when Conan Doyle wrote them, transcribed them from Dr. Watson's memoirs, but they are now. In theory the idea of a modern-day Sherlock Holmes doesn't hold much attraction for me; I'd rather just watch C.S.I.
The other thing is that the situation that has brought Holmes and Watson together seems awfully contrived to me. Can you actually do that? Hire someone to babysit a recovering addict just out of rehab? And would you really send a woman to live with a man to do that for six months? ???
It was also kind of sad to see Aidan Quinn (Greggson) getting--all right, I'll say it--old, tired, and looking overweight in the face. :(
I would like to see Jonny Lee in a period Holmes piece. And I wonder who played what role in Holmes' session with that BDSM prostitute? 8)
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I doubt Elementary will last more than one season. I cannot say that the debut episode disappointed me, but I wouldn't be watching the series in the first place if it weren't for Jonny Lee Miller--and him I absolutely loved as Sherlock Holmes. I consider him a worthy heir to the late Jeremy Brett, who for my money was the best Sherlock Holmes ever. I even thought that Lucy Liu made a pretty darn good female Watson. But my response to the show was muted at best.
I guess perhaps my muted response is based on the fact that for me, much of the attraction of the Sherlock Holmes stories is that they are for us period pieces--of course they weren't when Conan Doyle wrote them, transcribed them from Dr. Watson's memoirs, but they are now. In theory the idea of a modern-day Sherlock Holmes doesn't hold much attraction for me; I'd rather just watch C.S.I.
The other thing is that the situation that has brought Holmes and Watson together seems awfully contrived to me. Can you actually do that? Hire someone to babysit a recovering addict just out of rehab? And would you really send a woman to live with a man to do that for six months? ???
It was also kind of sad to see Aidan Quinn (Greggson) getting--all right, I'll say it--old, tired, and looking overweight in the face. :(
I would like to see Jonny Lee in a period Holmes piece. And I wonder who played what role in Holmes' session with that BDSM prostitute? 8)
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Sounds like they're going for the dramatic, not the accurate.
I didn't catch "Elementary"; maybe it'll turn up on hulu.
I still love the old Basil Rathbone films. But I equally love the BBC Sherlock series, especially for the updating. (IMO, I think they stumbled with "Hound of the Baskervilles". Didn't like that update. Perhaps because I knew the story so well, and the Rathbone film too.)
However, as much as I like Robert Downey Jr. and Jude Law, I found their (sorta period) film completely unwatchable.
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Sounds like they're going for the dramatic, not the accurate.
I didn't catch "Elementary"; maybe it'll turn up on hulu.
I still love the old Basil Rathbone films. But I equally love the BBC Sherlock series, especially for the updating. (IMO, I think they stumbled with "Hound of the Baskervilles". Didn't like that update. Perhaps because I knew the story so well, and the Rathbone film too.)
However, as much as I like Robert Downey Jr. and Jude Law, I found their (sorta period) film completely unwatchable.
I've never gotten around to seeing the Downey-Law films. I understand all but two of the old Rathbone films were also "updates" to the period when the films were made (I've only seen the first Rathbone film, which was done as a period piece); Rathbone wasn't bad in the role.
I still think Jeremy Brett was the best Holmes ever.
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I remember liking Nicol Williamson in "The Seven-Per-Cent Solution." Robert Duvall was Watson and Olivier was Moriarty. Don't recall if it was well-reviewed, but it certainly had a great cast. 8)
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...I equally love the BBC Sherlock series, especially for the updating.
Me too. Interestingly, it seemed like Lucy Liu resembled Benadict Cumberbatch and Miller resembled Martin Freeman, who plays Watson in Sherlock. What if they switched the roles around?
The program graphics were a bald copy of Sherlock, as well.
Law was watchable; Downy Jr. repulsive in the only one I saw.
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OK, I just watched the pilot of "Elementary". A bit clunky at first, but it drew me in, sort of. It's missing both the wonderful manic energy and the subtlety of "Sherlock", and lacks its humor too. A pale comparison.
Lee, I thought the same thing! Lucy Liu should be Sherlock and JLM Watson. I like Aidan Quinn, but not his accent. Nice to see Dallas Howard--from "A Home at the End of the World"--as guest star.
Sorry, Jeff, I haven't seen your Jeremy Brett. Perhaps Netflix has it.
BTW, Elementary isn't on hulu, but I found it at cbs.com; ghastly website.
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Sorry, Jeff, I haven't seen your Jeremy Brett. Perhaps Netflix has it.
Oi! :o Several series of Sherlock Holmes stories with Brett as Holmes ran on Mystery! on PBS--produced by WGBH, your own home town PBS station. ;)
Try the PBS Web site. They are well worth viewing--and having in one's library.
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Thanks, Bruce.
Well, who knows when we'll get more of Benedict and Martin?
I had never heard of Jonny Lee Miller--IMDb says he was once married to Angeline Jolie. But Lucy Liu and Aidan Quinn? Sounds good to me.
I thought I mentioned it somewhere on this thread but I can't find it. Jonny Lee Miller starred with Benedict in the National Theater production of Frankenstein back in the spring of 2011. It was filmed and showed in limited release in the US. I caught a showing. I'm sure Miller talked to Bene a great deal about how it was to play a modern day Sherlock and when Jonny got the opportunity to play Sherlock, he couldn't resist.
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I thought I mentioned it somewhere on this thread but I can't find it. Jonny Lee Miller starred with Benedict in the National Theater production of Frankenstein back in the spring of 2011. It was filmed and showed in limited release in the US. I caught a showing. I'm sure Miller talked to Bene a great deal about how it was to play a modern day Sherlock and when Jonny got the opportunity to play Sherlock, he couldn't resist.
Yes, I remember that. Interesting turn of events.
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I mostly remember Jonny Lee Miller from the movie adaption of Jane Austen´s Mansfield Park. Not a great movie by any means
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I'm sure Miller talked to Bene a great deal about how it was to play a modern day Sherlock.
Elementary got big coverage in the Fall Preview issue of TV Guide. The feature story concluded:
"Elementary has gained one influential ally: Sherlock star and Miller pal Benedict Cumberbatch has given the CBS show his blessing."
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Who's watching Elementary tonight?
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Who's watching Elementary tonight?
Is that a trick question?
On the East Coast, anyway, the answer is "nobody," because the Biden-Ryan vice presidential debate is on.
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Is that a trick question?
On the East Coast, anyway, the answer is "nobody," because the Biden-Ryan vice presidential debate is on.
Who's watching Elementary tonight?
This. Sorry, was watching the debates.
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"This is a bit awkward, but I'd say you're a damn good suspect."
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"This is a bit awkward, but I'd say you're a damn good suspect."
Best line in the entire episode last night! ;D
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Ol' Randall (David Harbour) had a guest role on this week's episode of Elementary.
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I missed Elementary again last night! Will have to find out how to play it on my computer.
But I did watch a not-very-good Hound of the Baskervilles in which the two best characters were the mists and the hound.
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I missed Elementary again last night! Will have to find out how to play it on my computer.
You missed a good'un! I won't spoil it for you, only tease you by mentioning that the name Irene Adler came up. And as we know, for Sherlock Holmes, she was always "the woman."
But I did watch a not-very-good Hound of the Baskervilles in which the two best characters were the mists and the hound.
Which one was that? Who was in it?
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It was the 2002 BBC version starring Richard Roxburgh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Roxburgh) as Holmes and Ian Hart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Hart) as Watson.
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It was the 2002 BBC version starring Richard Roxburgh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Roxburgh) as Holmes and Ian Hart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Hart) as Watson.
I don't believe I know that one. ???
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I finally started watching the second season of Sherlock, the ones I missed last spring while I was in Nepal. The first 90 minute show with the grand entrance of Irene Adler blew me away! I loved it when she told Watson that he and Holmes were a couple (reminded me of Hillary at that moment). When Sherlock cracked the codes it was such a physical rush. I have to watch that one again before going on to the second show!
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Congratulations to our man Benedict Cumberbatch for his Golden Globe nomination for Sherlock!!!! ;D
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The problem I had with this Marina is that Sherlock has deduced things from index fingers, calluses on feet, hair color, veins in the eyes, women's jewelry and makeup before (Molly, the Pink Lady, the art museum guard in Season 1 and Jim from the hospital). Irene wears heavy makeup and jewelry and obviously has hair, feet and hands, yet he draws a complete blank?
No he didn't draw a blank, della. Remember he deduced the code for the safe...it was 6 numbers. And Irene KNEW he would get it, because she had "given it to him." What was the combination? At the very end of the scene she said it was "her measurements". I would deduce myself, although I didn't get a good look (craftsy camera angles) that it was something like 36 24 34. To get it that precisely he abso fricking lutely did not draw a blank!
I didn't get this at all. At the end, he knows she fell for him because of the pulse thing.
Yet earlier, in her meeting with John ("We're not a couple", "Oh, yes you are.") she told John she was gay.
Is she gay or bi or just a liar? That completely throws doubt on the end.
So, you got a problem with her being bi? If you do, you're in a lot of company. Plus she could have been attracted to him intellectually.
And why would Sherlock rescue her 'intellect', help her out, when she's aiding and abetting terrorist groups who now have free rein to blow up an airplane thanks to her - and Sherlock?
I found that fact just indicative of Sherlock's callousness and extremely disturbing.
What did Lestrade say in the first Season?
"He's a great man. And one day, if we're lucky, he might even be a good one."
This is certainly Sherlock NOT being a good man.
And Sherlock's own words,
"Don't make people into heroes John, heroes don't exist and if they did, I wouldn't be one of them."
You can say that again.
He's only interested in her for what she can do for him. The fact many many people will die and have died because of her and his actions for her is not a concern of his. When that plane blows up, Sherlock has their blood on his hands as much as her and her cohorts.
Um, did you miss the part where Mycroft takes Sherlock out on the tarmac and into the plane and he sees that it's full of people who are already dead?
The ending, when he finally figures it out, is one of the best scenes.
When he finally cracked the code to Irene's phone, it was like a "Why didn't I see that?" moment...actually gave me a rush! I'll not spoil the ending for anyone!
He is charismatic, but he's also a pain. She had zero interaction with Sherlock except for a few stupidly stereotyped moments. And yet she 'falls for him'? She invited him out many times and not only did he not go, he never responded to her texts. What in the world did either of them fall for?
"Girls don't fall in love with fun." :P
...His interactions with Molly, Mrs. Hudson, Lestrade were all classic Sherlock. His scenes with his brother were intense and extremely well done. His scenes with John were great. The Palace scene and fight scene were hysterical. I burst out laughing in my seat. John realizes how good it feels to punch Sherlock and then takes the opportunity to purge his months of frustration by throwing down on the man. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
When you mention caring though...when the CIA were threatening to shoot John and had the gun to his head, Sherlock was all but frantic to save him. IMO, despite his moping when he thought Irene was dead, I think John's death would have hit him much harder.
Sherlock's affection with Mrs. Hudson, particularly, was endearing to see. He deduced her blood on her tormentor and disarmed him, punched him out, and called him a moron or an idiot. Also I loved the part where he said, "Mrs. Hudson leave 221B Baker Street? England would fall!!"
Me, too. But not an radical Muslim one, which is what we're expected to believe he did in order to save Irene. The US couldn't do it in 10 years with Bin Laden with ethnic and native speaking spies, yet Sherlock can do it in such a quick time that John doesn't even notice he's missing? ::)
I thought the end was a fast forward. Also, in the stories, John was unaware of what Sherlock was doing for months at a time, particularly after he got married.
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No he didn't draw a blank, della. Remember he deduced the code for the safe...it was 6 numbers. And Irene KNEW he would get it, because she had "given it to him." What was the combination? At the very end of the scene she said it was "her measurements". I would deduce myself, although I didn't get a good look (craftsy camera angles) that it was something like 36 24 34. To get it that precisely he abso fricking lutely did not draw a blank!
So why the problem deducing anything from her physical features like he does everyone else?
So, you got a problem with her being bi? If you do, you're in a lot of company. Plus she could have been attracted to him intellectually.
No problem with her being bi, but if so, she lied about being gay. She can't be both gay and bi.
Um, did you miss the part where Mycroft takes Sherlock out on the tarmac and into the plane and he sees that it's full of people who are already dead?
Front, this was Mycroft's solution for the terrorists to blow up a plane. They were going to stock the plane with dead bodies send it out on remote and let the terrorists think they succeeded.
Thanks to Sherlock, the terrorists now know that their code has been broken. They will change it. And the next time they target a plane, the government will have no idea which one it is, and LIVE people will be killed.
And that blood will be all on Sherlock and Irene's hands.
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Moving on, I watched the new version of The Hound of the Baskervilles on Sherlock yesterday. They did a good job updating the old classic. A couple of things puzzled me. For one thing, Sherlock didn't send Watson on ahead like in the original story. I'm glad because the banter between them is one of the best parts.
A chilling twist happened at the end when Sherlock revealed that he had performed an experiment on Watson that had frightened him severely. This convinces me even more strongly that Sherlock has Asperger's. After reading Look Me in the Eye, a man's firsthand account of growing up with Asperger's and the coldblooded way he recounts the practical jokes he pulled, I saw that in the portrayal of Sherlock.
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Moving on, I watched the new version of The Hound of the Baskervilles on Sherlock yesterday. They did a good job updating the old classic. A couple of things puzzled me. For one thing, Sherlock didn't send Watson on ahead like in the original story. I'm glad because the banter between them is one of the best parts.
A chilling twist happened at the end when Sherlock revealed that he had performed an experiment on Watson that had frightened him severely. This convinces me even more strongly that Sherlock has Asperger's. After reading Look Me in the Eye, a man's firsthand account of growing up with Asperger's and the coldblooded way he recounts the practical jokes he pulled, I saw that in the portrayal of Sherlock.
Agree. I definitely thought Sherlock deserved a punch in the face from John about that. Yes, that was cruel, cold and callous of him. John is his friend and that's how he expresses his friendship?
Yet he let that go.
And yes, I know, Sherlock talks down to everyone, but he keeps acting like John is no better than Joe Blow off the streets. I don't know about the UK, but it takes quite a bit of brains to get through medical school here in the US. And John was a captain in the Army. Again, they don't give out rank in the army for perfect attendance. John is nowhere near being an 'average mind' but Sherlock keeps treating him like one.
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Interesting discussion of Irene Adlers, past and present:
http://io9.com/5972417/why-cant-any-recent-sherlock-holmes-adaptation-get-irene-adler-right (http://io9.com/5972417/why-cant-any-recent-sherlock-holmes-adaptation-get-irene-adler-right)
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I had an epiphany about Irene Adler last night. . .I think the reason she was portrayed as so smitten with Sherlock is so that the password that Sherlock finally guessed at the end would work. But it skews her portrayal from the story and stereotypes her. However, I can certainly relate! I am smitten with him as well, as was Irene. . .and John!
I laugh every time I remember the scene where the action is heating up and Watson says, "Oh there you go turning your coat collar up and throwing your scarf over your shoulder to look cool." It is remarkably effective!
At the end of the month I'll be going to the annual meeting of Dr. Watson's Neglected Patients, which is affiliated with the Baker Street Irregulars, and I'm thinking about wearing a pea coat and scarf.
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Apparently, this week on the other "updated" Sherlock Holmes, we get to learn more about his Irene Adler, and we also learn about a mysterious person called "M." 8)
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In preparation for going to the Baker Street Irregulars dinner tonight, I watched the BBC Sherlock series ender "The Final Problem". It certainly is a mystery how Sherlock survived the fall this time, but I think Molly has something to do with it. A few interesting things I noticed were, how Watson calls him "Sherl" now, and when the idea of Sherlock as a fake comes up for the first time, John says, "I know you're not a fake because no one could fake being an obnoxious dick all the time." :laugh:
But then I cried when John stood over his grave and said, "You were the most human human being I've ever known and you were not a fake." :'(
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In preparation for going to the Baker Street Irregulars dinner tonight, I watched the BBC Sherlock series ender "The Final Problem". It certainly is a mystery how Sherlock survived the fall this time, but I think Molly has something to do with it. A few interesting things I noticed were, how Watson calls him "Sherl" now, and when the idea of Sherlock as a fake comes up for the first time, John says, "I know you're not a fake because no one could fake being an obnoxious dick all the time." :laugh:
But then I cried when John stood over his grave and said, "You were the most human human being I've ever known and you were not a fake." :'(
The episode had us all in tears. Yes, Molly did have something to do with it. She is known for being able to find corpses for Sherlock, so there's that to consider. No, I didn't notice John was calling Sherlock "Sher". That's interesting.
I loved the 3rd episode.
The details I like is how protective John is of Sherlock throughout the episode and how Sherlock has taken - as Molly noticed later - to watching John. When they're getting ready for Moriarty's trial at 221B, Sherlock finishes dressing first, then (you see in the mirror) that he turns to watch John. Sherlock is then very passive and lets John take charge of getting him to the courthouse.
Yes, right before the "No one could fake being such a dick for so long", John is commenting how Sherlock would be upset if people thought he was wrong or a fake.
Sherlock responds he is uncaring about other people's ideas about him. But, then when he thinks John might be doubting him, he becomes very upset. Other people's opinions don't matter to Sherlock. What John thinks of him does. Very much so.
Moffat tells us to sentimentalize Sherlock at our peril, so much of what happens on the roof of St. Barts is probably acting on Sherlock's part. I expect that's due to all the observers.
John however, is not acting at the graveside. His soliloquy to his friend is very moving. That he reaches out to touch the headstone is such a sweet gesture. And what just ripped me is when John begs him to do him a favor, just for him. And you know, in reality, that's exactly why Sherlock did what he did. It was for John.
Is what John said there, though, what he told the psychologist at the beginning what 'he couldn't say'?
People have been theorizing forever on how he survives. Obviously the truck has something to do with it, as does the fact, Sherlock keeps telling John to stay away from the side of the hospital that is blocked from John's view by another building.
People are also theorizing how John is going to take the loss. Will he move on with his life, grateful that Sherlock brought him back to life, or will he fall back on his depression and potentially suicidal bleak existence?
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I had an epiphany about Irene Adler last night. . .I think the reason she was portrayed as so smitten with Sherlock is so that the password that Sherlock finally guessed at the end would work. But it skews her portrayal from the story and stereotypes her. However, I can certainly relate! I am smitten with him as well, as was Irene. . .and John!
I laugh every time I remember the scene where the action is heating up and Watson says, "Oh there you go turning your coat collar up and throwing your scarf over your shoulder to look cool." It is remarkably effective!
At the end of the month I'll be going to the annual meeting of Dr. Watson's Neglected Patients, which is affiliated with the Baker Street Irregulars, and I'm thinking about wearing a pea coat and scarf.
Make sure you sew one of your peacoat buttonholes with red thread. ;D
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A friend proposed that the two of us go as Doyle's contemporaries Oscar Wilde and his lover so I get to be Bosie. I have a lovely 3-piece brown and yellow outfit with a lacy pocket square, a satin tie and a tuxedo shirt with a high collar. I also have a stylish cream colored bowler hat. My friend, as Oscar, is wearing a yellow and black striped jacket, a purple vest and bowler and a purple paisley pocket square. What a pair we will be!
I also remembered that in the story of The Final Problem, Watson was called away at the crucial moment on the trail to tend to a lady with a broken leg but when he arrived her leg was not broken. He knew he had been duped so he ran back up the trail but, alas, too late! The same thing happened in Sherlock but this time the story was that Mrs. Hudson had been shot. When he found out it was a lie, Watson caught a taxi back to the scene but arrived to find Sherlock standing on the edge of the roof.
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A friend proposed that the two of us go as Doyle's contemporaries Oscar Wilde and his lover so I get to be Bosie. I have a lovely 3-piece brown and yellow outfit with a lacy pocket square, a satin tie and a tuxedo shirt with a high collar. I also have a stylish cream colored bowler hat. My friend, as Oscar, is wearing a yellow and black striped jacket, a purple vest and bowler and a purple paisley pocket square. What a pair we will be!
So how did this turn out? Did you create a sensation? :D
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Maybe so, since several people, upon seeing us, seemed to be struck dumb. Fortunately my friend came equipped with several good Oscar quotes to fill the void. It was one of those situations where we were having more fun than the onlookers, but isn't that always the case? You get out of it what you put into it. The food and entertainment were also good. A quiz was given which I failed miserably, but of course I was just remaining in character (we all know Bosie was a can short of a six-pack).
I also gave a toast to Sir Arthur in limerick form which was well received. :)
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I'm glad you had a good time. :)
Will you share the limerick, please? Are there pictures of you in your dandyish outfit?
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Ask and ye shall receive!
A Toast for January 27, 2013
Arise, my friends and raise a full glass
To a man who stands out as the best in his class
A Victorian writer and physician of record
To whom we can all agree to accord
For his insights deep and his intellect vast.
There was never an author who could so expose
The power of deduction to entertain and disclose
The foibles and failures of the unfortunate few
As well as the origin of the mud on their shoe
And the telltale clues on their clothes.
Woe to the criminal with Holmes on his tail
With Doyle as creator there was no way to fail
Through novel, story, memoir, and film
We give our allegiance only to him
Beside Sir Arthur, all others grow pale.
The great man who through thick and thin did toil
Who can conjure up the best villains to foil
That’s why we persist though our Doctor neglects us
From Sherlock we simply cannot be absentious
All praise to the Doctor, The Consummate Author
Without whom we’d most certainly be distraughter
We give laud and honor to the one and only Sir Arthur
Sir Arthur? King Arthur!
Arthur Conan Doyle.
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Sweet! You look like Edwin Drood!
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Ask and ye shall receive!
Y'all look great!!!
Epic limerick. I'm used to the "There was a young lady from Mau..." type of limericks.
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I love the suit! Especially the cravat! :D
Sweet! You look like Edwin Drood!
Wasn't Edwin Drood murdered? ???
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I love the suit! Especially the cravat! :D
Wasn't Edwin Drood murdered? ???
Hopefully I looked like him before he was murdured!
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Today there is a lot of buzz about Sherlock's "mind palace" that appeared in The Hound of the Baskerville's when he figured out the significance of HOUND and Liberty. Reading about it, it seems quite similar to the houses I encounter in my dreams. We humans love to categorize and cubiclize things, don't we? Did you like the way the mind palace was portrayed, and all the little bits of text that flash on the screen when they're texting or blogging or whatever?
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Today there is a lot of buzz about Sherlock's "mind palace" that appeared in The Hound of the Baskerville's when he figured out the significance of HOUND and Liberty. Reading about it, it seems quite similar to the houses I encounter in my dreams. We humans love to categorize and cubiclize things, don't we? Did you like the way the mind palace was portrayed, and all the little bits of text that flash on the screen when they're texting or blogging or whatever?
I do, when it's a little bit here and there, but the mind palace was overdone IMO. It reminded me too much of Tom Hanks' Langdon character in The DaVinci Code. It also ran afoul of Sherlock's earlier statement that he "thinks better when I talk aloud". I would have liked to have heard his mental processes, not see him doing strange hand signals in the air to special effects.
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Major SPOILERS ahead...
Okay, I think I've figured out how Sherlock carried out the impossible leap. He had Molly locate a recently dead corpse who fit his general body type and then had her make a mask of his face and apply it to the corpse. He also had her haul the corpse up to the roof of the place where he had arranged the confrontation with Moriarty. And then it was a snap to throw the corpse over the ledge of the roof. What do all the die-hard Sherlock fans think?
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Major SPOILERS ahead...
Okay, I think I've figured out how Sherlock carried out the impossible leap. He had Molly locate a recently dead corpse who fit his general body type and then had her make a mask of his face and apply it to the corpse.
Is Molly a mask maker?
He also had her haul the corpse up to the roof of the place where he had arranged the confrontation with Moriarty.
How did Sherlock know the confrontation would be on the roof?
And then it was a snap to throw the corpse over the ledge of the roof. What do all the die-hard Sherlock fans think?
Except we saw Sherlock fall. It was him and he was moving as he fell. So it can't be corpse.
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Time will tell!
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Shooting now underway for the new season! ;D
(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/merylmarie/Catchall%202/GoofySherlockcast_zps73a11650.jpg)
https://www.facebook.com/BBCOne
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Yaaa! I enjoy this series, and the small increments are just right for me.
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Shooting now underway for the new season! ;D
(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/merylmarie/Catchall%202/GoofySherlockcast_zps73a11650.jpg)
https://www.facebook.com/BBCOne
Woo hoo!!!!
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And Cumberbatch says he's signed on for two more seasons! ;D
http://news.yahoo.com/benedict-cumberbatch-martin-freeman-begin-sherlock-season-3-193933083.html
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That's great! 8)
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It was lovely to see a young Rupert Graves in "A Room With a View" an old Merchant-Ivory film I watched last night.
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It was lovely to see a young Rupert Graves in "A Room With a View" an old Merchant-Ivory film I watched last night.
The British film industry is so small, you tend to see the same people over the years in many productions. I enjoy that. It's like seeing old friends.
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True, della! I also enjoyed the full frontal nudity on Graves, Julian Sands, and even Simon Callow as the rector :laugh:!
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True, della! I also enjoyed the full frontal nudity on Graves, Julian Sands, and even Simon Callow as the rector :laugh:!
*sigh*
I love the Brits. :-* :-* :-*
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It was lovely to see a young Rupert Graves in "A Room With a View" an old Merchant-Ivory film I watched last night.
That's a lovely movie. I saw it in the same weekend that I saw My Beautiful Laundrette, and I knew right then what an amazing actor Daniel Day-Lewis is.
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At last the mystery of the Reichenbach fall is solved!
http://metro.co.uk/2013/04/01/exclusive-sherlocks-the-reichenbach-fall-fake-death-mystery-revealed-3566654/ (http://metro.co.uk/2013/04/01/exclusive-sherlocks-the-reichenbach-fall-fake-death-mystery-revealed-3566654/)
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At last the mystery of the Reichenbach fall is solved!
http://metro.co.uk/2013/04/01/exclusive-sherlocks-the-reichenbach-fall-fake-death-mystery-revealed-3566654/ (http://metro.co.uk/2013/04/01/exclusive-sherlocks-the-reichenbach-fall-fake-death-mystery-revealed-3566654/)
:laugh:
Had me going for a minute. But who knows? ;)
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Veering back into tangents, I heard earlier this week that Ruth Prawer Jhabvala has died (http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/03/local/la-me-ruth-prawer-jhabvala-20130404) at 85. She was the screenwriter for A Room with a View and Howards End, among many others. One thing that I didn't know before was that, of the celebrated producers of both films, Ismael Merchant and James Ivory, neither was a Brit. Merchant was born in India and Ivory was an American. Fancy that!
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Veering back into tangents, I heard earlier this week that Ruth Prawer Jhabvala has died (http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/03/local/la-me-ruth-prawer-jhabvala-20130404) at 85. She was the screenwriter for A Room with a View and Howards End, among many others. One thing that I didn't know before was that, of the celebrated producers of both films, Ismael Merchant and James Ivory, neither was a Brit. Merchant was born in India and Ivory was an American. Fancy that!
Oh, dear! She just had a story published in The New Yorker. :(
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There is hope: Series 3 of Sherlock is filming! http://cultfix.co.uk/sherlock-filming-pics-the-empty-hearse-22068.htm (http://cultfix.co.uk/sherlock-filming-pics-the-empty-hearse-22068.htm)
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I was reminded last night of all the Sherlock Holmes incarnations. I was watching a show where a woman who was suspected of witchcraft demonstrated that things she knew about people that she could not possibly know came from her "powers" of observation: She could tell that someone worked at shearing sheep from the condition of his hands, and because "he reeks of mutton." ;D (She was also an accomplished herbalist.)
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Personally, I would say he "reeks of lanolin". Mutton doesn't smell really until after it's butchered.
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Personally, I would say he "reeks of lanolin". Mutton doesn't smell really until after it's butchered.
They probably meant to imply that he smelled like a sheep, but I just quoted the dialog as it was.
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I was reminded last night of all the Sherlock Holmes incarnations. I was watching a show where a woman who was suspected of witchcraft demonstrated that things she knew about people that she could not possibly know came from her "powers" of observation: She could tell that someone worked at shearing sheep from the condition of his hands, and because "he reeks of mutton." ;D (She was also an accomplished herbalist.)
Wouldn't take a keen observer of anything. People who are around livestock, reek of it. No special powers of anything needed. Just a decent working nose.
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Wouldn't take a keen observer of anything. People who are around livestock, reek of it. No special powers of anything needed. Just a decent working nose.
Well, then, I guess it's a good thing--or maybe not--that you weren't a consultant on the script.
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Well, then, I guess it's a good thing--or maybe not--that you weren't a consultant on the script.
:laugh:
I doubt they had one. Or if they did, they ignored him/her for artistic purposes. ;)
Here's a brief article and look at Benedict Cumberbatch's parents. He has his dad's face and his mother's eyes and smirk. :)
http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2013/04/the-full-dynastic-heritage-of-benedict-cumberbatch/
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Haha, "mutant super-thespian" indeed!
I watched the Hound sequence last night, falling asleep several times and had nightmares about the hound! Oh, when will the new season be ready?
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Haha, "mutant super-thespian" indeed!
I watched the Hound sequence last night, falling asleep several times and had nightmares about the hound! Oh, when will the new season be ready?
Scary! :o
Hopefully the fall...but likely for us in the US, next spring. >:(
But I'll get my Benedict fix next month when he comes out in Star Trek 2.
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:laugh:
I doubt they had one. Or if they did, they ignored him/her for artistic purposes. ;)
Here's a brief article and look at Benedict Cumberbatch's parents. He has his dad's face and his mother's eyes and smirk. :)
http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2013/04/the-full-dynastic-heritage-of-benedict-cumberbatch/
Very interesting article. I agree with you about his inherited traits! Do you know how he came to choose Cumberbatch for a last name?
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According to this article, Cumberbatch is the family name, dropped by the father. It means "dweller in a valley with a stream"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Cumberbatch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Cumberbatch)
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According to this article, Cumberbatch is the family name, dropped by the father. It means "dweller in a valley with a stream"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Cumberbatch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Cumberbatch)
He said in an interview he thinks that's what his name means, but he was not sure of the etymology of the name.
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I suppose I should have watched the last episode of the Office last night but I could only handle about two minutes of it and switched over to the season ender of Elementary instead. There were some very interesting plot twists (don't worry I won't reveal spoilers) but also some dull moments. I find myself getting irritated by Jonny Lee Miller's drone and Lucy Liu's deer-in-the-headlights stare. And those stiletto heels? Puleeze. Some gumshoe she is. ::)
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I suppose I should have watched the last episode of the Office last night but I could only handle about two minutes of it and switched over to the season ender of Elementary instead. There were some very interesting plot twists (don't worry I won't reveal spoilers) but also some dull moments. I find myself getting irritated by Jonny Lee Miller's drone and Lucy Liu's deer-in-the-headlights stare. And those stiletto heels? Puleeze. Some gumshoe she is. ::)
I thought she was a doctor, not a cop. ???
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Friend, maybe you missed the last of the episode where she wrote in her profession as "consulting investigator".
Has the new series started yet? Some people have suggested that it has.
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I thought she was a doctor, not a cop. ???
She was a surgeon. IIRC, she lost a patient, so she gave up surgery to become a professional "sober companion" for persons newly in recovery. That's how she got hooked up with Sherlock (his father paid her for her service as a companion). When her services as a companion were no longer required, she stayed on to become a sort-of apprentice to Sherlock.
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Ah, thanks guys.
No, I never watch the series. All I know is she was touted at the beginning of the series as a doctor and, of course, traditionally, Dr. Watson is a doctor.
And those stiletto heels? Puleeze. Some gumshoe she is.
I haven't seen her shoes, but as I recall, X-Files' FBI agent Dana Scully spent nearly a decade chasing bad guys in heels.
So much so, that when one of their parody episodes aired, where she and Mulder were portrayed in a Hollywood movie, the actress playing Scully (Tea Leoni) asked Scully to show her how she runs in high heels.
There is a hilarious scene where Mulder is talking to his alter ego actor and in the background you see the women practicing running.
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No, I never watch the series. All I know is she was touted at the beginning of the series as a doctor and, of course, traditionally, Dr. Watson is a doctor.
Holmes usually just addresses her as "Watson." Everyone else seems to refer to her as "Ms. Watson." It would be interesting to see if she goes back to medicine, if the series lasts long enough (which would surprise me).
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Hey, fans! Whilst looking up something else at IMDb, I just discovered that today is your man Cumberbatch's 37th birthday.
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Happy birthday to Benedict! 8)
Here's a link from Comic-Con with BC, as well as Martin Freeman:
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t0nJtwtRGw[/youtube]
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37??
Wow, he still looks so young.
Happy birthday Benny! Enjoy the wild ride you're on!
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BBC repeated the 2nd season finale Reichenbach Falls a day ago in the UK and they had the 3rd season teaser trailer at the end!!!
I'm so excited!!!
Enjoy!!
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Ooh, Watson grew a moustache! 8)
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Ooh, Watson grew a moustache! 8)
We're wondering if it's fake and if John is married.
He's not wearing a ring when we see him in this, but rumors have been circling that when the 3rd season opens John's either married to Mary or about to be and perhaps Sherlock's return throws a monkeywrench into all that.
Moffat - though you can't trust him - does say that Sherlock is surprised at how people react to his return. Hinting that people are not always reacting positively.
After all, you can't expect a 21st century wife to allow her husband a lot of time away with his closest friend as did obedient wives in the 19th century. :)
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The news today is that Sherlock will return (to PBS) on January 19th. Yay!!
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Tweeted today for those lucky folks in the UK for season 3
The first chance to see the new series of Sherlock will occur this year.
On Sunday December 15 2013 at 13:00GMT, the British Film Institute will show S3E1: The Empty Hearse in a public screening at the National Film Theatre on London's Southbank, ahead of the yet to be announced first television airing in the UK on the BBC. The premiere will be followed by a Q&A with members of the cast and crew who will be in attendance.
The BFI listing also carries the first synopsis for the opening episode of the new series:
Two years after the devastating events of 'The Reichenbach Fall', John appears to have got on with his life. New horizons and romance beckon. But, with London under threat of a devastating terrorist attack, Sherlock is about to take John at his word, staging his resurrection with all the theatricality that comes so naturally to him. If Sherlock thinks everything will be just as he left it, though, he's in for a very big surprise...
Public Tickets are set to go sale on November 12 2013 at 11:30GMT.
BFI members can book from November 6 2013 at 11:30GMT.
The screening is effectively a repeat of the premiere of S2E1: A Scandal in Belgravia, which premiered at the BFI on December 7 2011, almost a month before the first television airing on January 1 2012. Tickets for that event sold out within hours of being released.
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Tweeted today for those lucky folks in the UK for season 3
The first chance to see the new series of Sherlock will occur this year.
On Sunday December 15 2013 at 13:00GMT, the British Film Institute will show S3E1: The Empty Hearse in a public screening at the National Film Theatre on London's Southbank, ahead of the yet to be announced first television airing in the UK on the BBC. The premiere will be followed by a Q&A with members of the cast and crew who will be in attendance.
The BFI listing also carries the first synopsis for the opening episode of the new series:
Two years after the devastating events of 'The Reichenbach Fall', John appears to have got on with his life. New horizons and romance beckon. But, with London under threat of a devastating terrorist attack, Sherlock is about to take John at his word, staging his resurrection with all the theatricality that comes so naturally to him. If Sherlock thinks everything will be just as he left it, though, he's in for a very big surprise...
Public Tickets are set to go sale on November 12 2013 at 11:30GMT.
BFI members can book from November 6 2013 at 11:30GMT.
The screening is effectively a repeat of the premiere of S2E1: A Scandal in Belgravia, which premiered at the BFI on December 7 2011, almost a month before the first television airing on January 1 2012. Tickets for that event sold out within hours of being released.
Box office opened and tickets were sold out in less than 60 seconds.
Wow, you'd think this show was popular or something. ;D
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First official pic of the 3rd season
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/Jovieve/3rdseason_zps41a21907.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Jovieve/media/3rdseason_zps41a21907.jpg.html)
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Very powerful!
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Lots of new pics!
http://www.buzzfeed.com/danmartin/the-30-pictures-from-sherlock-youve-been-waiting-nearly-two
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Lots of new pics!
http://www.buzzfeed.com/danmartin/the-30-pictures-from-sherlock-youve-been-waiting-nearly-two
I'm not looking, Meryl. ;D I don't want to be spoiled. I'll be dropping off all my Sherlock boards very soon now.
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Okay, Della, I will join you in being "master of my domain" (little Seinfeld reference).
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Okay, Della, I will join you in being "master of my domain" (little Seinfeld reference).
I just don't want to be spoiled and with the event coming up the 15th of December, obviously word will get out before the first episode even airs in the UK on New Years.
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Now my daughter tells me this will be on on New Year's Eve. If that's so, I'm cancelling all my other plans!
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I wonder whether all you fans of the updated Sherlock Holmes happened to catch the two-hour program on PBS about how the Holmes stories and novelas influenced the actual development in the real world of forensic criminology? It was quite interesting, and for all you Benedictines, there were quite a few clips of your man Cumberbatch.
If it hasn't yet been shown in your area, watch for it. :)
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What is the title of the program?
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What is the title of the program?
It's quite obvious. "How Sherlock Changed the World," or something similar.
ETA: I checked TV Guide and the title is, indeed, How Sherlock Changed the World.
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It can be streamed here: http://video.pbs.org/video/2365137931/ (http://video.pbs.org/video/2365137931/)
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Little mini-prequel to Sherlock Season 3!!!
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/mini-episode-sneak-peek-sherlock-39-alive-someone-181545683.html
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Thanks for the link, della. This was fun to watch on Christmas evening.
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Sherlock: how it became a global phenomenon
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/10501730/Sherlock-how-it-became-a-global-phenomenon.html?fb
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The premiere of Series 3 finally came to the US last night! It was set to start at 7:58 pm my time; however, when I settled down on the sofa and turned on the Public Broadcast Station, I found I had to watch two hours of Downton Abbey before Sherlock would be on, one of which I had already watched. When 10 pm rolled around, I was dragging but I managed to perk myself up and only fell asleep a bit in the middle. I'll have to watch it several times more before I can assimilate everything in this action and emo packed episode. (Experience indicates we'll have plenty of time to watch it over and over.)
One moment that was so cathartic was when Sherlock said, "Okay, where is it?" and his brother's assistant brought the dashing overcoat and slipped it over his shoulders!!
More about the coat: http://www.sherlockology.com/wardrobe/coat-sherlock-holmes (http://www.sherlockology.com/wardrobe/coat-sherlock-holmes)
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Great to have Sherlock back! So much to like about last night's episode.
A favorite early exchange (paraphrased):
Mrs. Hudson: "These two years must have been so hard for you."
Watson: "Yes, well, I'm getting married."
Mrs. Hudson: "Oh, wonderful, dear, what's his name?"
:laugh: :laugh:
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I am still not reading this thread because I don't want to be spoiled for the remaining 2 episodes of the season. ;D
Here is my review of Ep 1 of Season 3
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I am ridiculously pleased with this season opener. They actually devote most of the episode to his return, instead of doing away with the cliffhanger in 30 seconds like they did Season 2 opener.
They show Sherlock being vindicated, they show Sherlock 'coming back' to his friends, show that he has, as a human, warmed up a bit, though still a bit cruel, they sprinkled throughout the episode versions of "how he did it" - some hysterically funny, others more serious.
Before the season started, I and my fellow fans discussed at length whether producer/creators Moffat and Gattis, fans of the original Sherlock, would follow canon about his reappearance. In the story, Sherlock springs himself on Watson out of disguise as a joke and causes him to faint. We thought, due to the trauma John experienced on Sherlock's demise, Sherlock would not joke with John on his reappearance.
We were wrong...sort of.
Sherlock does reappear to his only friend in a joking manner, but knowing how hard John took his 'death', he tempers it with sincere regret.
I didn't like the "John in danger" subplot in introducing the newest villain - as John has been in peril and needing rescue every season since the beginning - and Mary accompanying Sherlock on the rescue was unnecessary. I did like that Mary is not a young or particularly attractive woman.
And I didn't like how Moffat, doing his typical left-handed "tribute" to the fans and fanfiction puts in his little jab by portraying them all as unattractive weirdos. Moffat is really passive aggressive in his love/hate relationship with the fans.
The 'carriage' subway danger was a bit off-putting, but I think Moffat used that scene to show some fans that they did indeed "sentimentalize' Sherlock at their own risk.
There were many fans I discussed Sherlock with who really, truly believed that Sherlock's tears and grief in the suicide scene were sincere (I did not). I even asked them how they would feel if his tears turned out to be faked. I will be curious to see how they feel now, as Moffat has clearly demonstrated that Sherlock is really really good at faking grief, and his humor is sometimes cruel. To be fair, Moffat has shown Sherlock to be cruel to John fairly often, so I am not surprised, but other fans may be.
But other than that, the story is brimming with unexpected warmth, seeing Sherlock now aware that he does indeed enjoy some people in his life, his family dynamics with Mycroft AND unexpectedly with their parents, was a surprising treat. I'm looking forward to the rest of the episodes!
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So have any of you fans seen Emily Nussbaum's review in the Jan. 27 New Yorker?
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So have any of you fans seen Emily Nussbaum's review in the Jan. 27 New Yorker?
Thanks. I'll read it after the season is over. I don't want to be spoiled. :)
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I haven't cracked open that issue yet.
A question about the season opener: we see Sherlock at one point (I'm being deliberately vague here) from behind with his shirt off. Anybody know or can guess whether that's actually Benedict or a stunt double? I know in earlier seasons that he did most of his stunts.
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I haven't cracked open that issue yet.
A question about the season opener: we see Sherlock at one point (I'm being deliberately vague here) from behind with his shirt off. Anybody know or can guess whether that's actually Benedict or a stunt double? I know in earlier seasons that he did most of his stunts.
Good question. It might be him. You see his face at the very end. He did get all muscle-y for Star Trek Into Darkness and then stayed in great shape for his short movie "Small Favours", then, reportedly, he couldn't get as small as he used to be when filming for the 3rd season started. He stated he was 3 sizes larger than he used to be.
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So have any of you fans seen Emily Nussbaum's review in the Jan. 27 New Yorker?
I read the first half which covered the first episode. It was pretty good, especially the part about "by the end of the episode, the story coheres, and the series is rebooted with a ping."
I haven't participated in all the fanfiction shenanigans, so all that is lost on me. I saw the segues to the various scenarios as distractions to the main story, whereas Emily and others apparently saw the main story as "goofy". Also, I thought they overdid the use of hashtags.
Interesting to find that Mary is Martin Freeman's partner in real life!!
The part that blew my mind was when she said that Sherlock was not just a buddy story or a romance but the story of a "god and a mortal." Wow.
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Nussbaum's article actually made me glad I have never watched this series. Never mind the (frequent?) gay innuendo, the thought balloons--or whatever it was that Nussbaum calls them--would have really put me off.
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Nussbaum's article actually made me glad I have never watched this series. Never mind the (frequent?) gay innuendo, the thought balloons--or whatever it was that Nussbaum calls them--would have really put me off.
It really isn't off putting though, Jeff. And it's a shame because it's one of the best series out on TV these days.
Remember, this is the 21st century.
Sherlock makes a lot of rapid deductions about people and places in his head and he is up on the latest gadgets. The "thought balloons" - and they are actually just floating words or statements - are showing the audience what he deduces about people and events without him actually SAYING it and they spell out what the phone displays are showing without the camera having to cut to the display of a monitor or phone. You follow his thought processes without all the verbal exposition, so the pace of the episode keeps at a high level and it's really quite interesting.
The gay innuendo is not frequent. But it's mentioned at least once every other episode.
Remember, 21st century?
Two single men, living together, who spend all their time together, one of which never had any friends until he met the other and now wants him around all the time and defends him with his life, the other writes about his flatmate in his blog with great admiration, defends him publicly and with his life and one doesn't date at all and the other dates only sporadically.
What would a 21st century populace, that doesn't know them, make of their intimate closeness and utter devotion? Their relationship IS unusual.
To infer a more intimate relationship between the two men is a reasonable assumption in this day and age as it wasn't in the Victorian era. The creators are just going along with canon and what would modern audiences would think of them.
They also have implied from time to time that Sherlock is autistic in some way. Again, what wasn't questioned in Victorian era, is a logical thing for a modern audience to infer.
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Life is a whole lot easier if you don't think about it too much. :P
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Jeff,
Here are examples of the 'floating text'.
Deductions
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/Jovieve/Sherlockscreenshot2_zpscd6542c9.jpg)
Text displays
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/Jovieve/Sherlockscreenshot_zpsdf70e1b9.jpg)
The font used is the same used in the London Underground system. 8)
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It really isn't off putting though, Jeff.
Of course it isn't, to you. You like the show.
And it's a shame because it's one of the best series out on TV these days.
We can all say that about our favorite shows. One could say that about Spong Bob Squarepants if one liked the show sufficiently.
Remember, this is the 21st century.
Thanks for reminding me. I need to reset my water clock. ...
Sherlock makes a lot of rapid deductions about people and places in his head and he is up on the latest gadgets. The "thought balloons" - and they are actually just floating words or statements - are showing the audience what he deduces about people and events without him actually SAYING it and they spell out what the phone displays are showing without the camera having to cut to the display of a monitor or phone. You follow his thought processes without all the verbal exposition, so the pace of the episode keeps at a high level and it's really quite interesting.
I understood from Nussbaum that they're showing things to the audience. Sorry, but that all still sounds rather too cartoonish for my taste.
The gay innuendo is not frequent. But it's mentioned at least once every other episode.
Interesting. Everything I've read about the show dwells on that aspect so much that I would have thought it happened more frequently than that.
Remember, 21st century?
You've said that already. ...
Two single men, living together, who spend all their time together, one of which never had any friends until he met the other and now wants him around all the time and defends him with his life, the other writes about his flatmate in his blog with great admiration, defends him publicly and with his life and one doesn't date at all and the other dates only sporadically.
All that "defending with his life" seems an addition. I don't recall Dr. Watson ever getting in that much trouble.
What would a 21st century populace, that doesn't know them, make of their intimate closeness and utter devotion? Their relationship IS unusual.
To infer a more intimate relationship between the two men is a reasonable assumption in this day and age as it wasn't in the Victorian era. The creators are just going along with canon and what would modern audiences would think of them.
You're starting to sound like you're protesting too much.
They also have implied from time to time that Sherlock is autistic in some way.
High-functioning Asperger's would be my guess.
Again, what wasn't questioned in Victorian era, is a logical thing for a modern audience to infer.
Is the lesson over? Can I go now?
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Jeff,
Here are examples of the 'floating text'.
Deductions
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/Jovieve/Sherlockscreenshot2_zpscd6542c9.jpg)
Text displays
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/Jovieve/Sherlockscreenshot_zpsdf70e1b9.jpg)
Thanks, but I still don't like it.
The font used is the same used in the London Underground system. 8)
Well, that's clever, I guess.
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Jeff, of course you are free to leave any time. In fact, you need not even enter this thread if you don't like the subject matter. Bye!
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Of course it isn't, to you. You like the show.
We can all say that about our favorite shows. One could say that about Spong Bob Squarepants if one liked the show sufficiently.
Except this one wins awards. Pretty much the entertainment industry says it is not just me.
I understood from Nussbaum that they're showing things to the audience. Sorry, but that all still sounds rather too cartoonish for my taste.
Interesting. Everything I've read about the show dwells on that aspect so much that I would have thought it happened more frequently than that.
You've said that already. ...
All that "defending with his life" seems an addition. I don't recall Dr. Watson ever getting in that much trouble.
He doesn't. He's in danger by association. Sherlock has a lot of dangerous enemies.
You're starting to sound like you're protesting too much.
High-functioning Asperger's would be my guess.
Is the lesson over? Can I go now?
Have you learned anything?
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Jeff, of course you are free to leave any time. In fact, you need not even enter this thread if you don't like the subject matter. Bye!
Agree!
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Have you learned anything?
Yes! How the floating text works, and that there isn't as much gay inuenndo as commentary had led me to believe.
Doesn't make the show any more attractive to me than it was before, however.
Enjoy your show--and do read Emily Nussbaum's review. (Hint [Spoiler?]: I took it to be favorable.)
Jeff, of course you are free to leave any time. In fact, you need not even enter this thread if you don't like the subject matter. Bye!
I'll remember that the next time I come across something that I think might interest those of you who are fans of the show. ... >:(
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Yes! How the floating text works, and that there isn't as much gay inuenndo as commentary had led me to believe.
Doesn't make the show any more attractive to me than it was before, however.
Enjoy your show--and do read Emily Nussbaum's review. (Hint [Spoiler?]: I took it to be favorable.)
I'll remember that the next time I come across something that I think might interest those of you who are fans of the show. ... >:(
Jeff - we were appreciative of that.
Then you seemed to get all snarky about my post. I was being an enthusiastic fan and you reacted rather poorly. Since we didn't see any smilies or whatnot indicating you were just joking around, we took your comments quite seriously.
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Still digesting Episode 2 of the 3rd season.
There was a LOT crammed into this episode.
I am not sure if I like being so pleased with all the fan satisfaction stuff and think it's a normal progression or whether to not be too happy about it because it IS out of character. Happily my PBS station repeats each episode twice, on Thursday and Saturday nights, so I will be watching the episode again before posting my review.
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This Sherlock - as best man for John at his wedding - participates quite a bit in the wedding with his best man duties and helping the bride pick out seating arrangements and napkin folding styles, along with music for the first dance.
In contrast, canon Sherlock never even showed for the wedding.
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I think I saw about half of episode 2, I came in during the drunk scene. Like you, I will need to watch it at least once again before I can even comment!
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Trying to avoid spoilers here...
In the second episode, it's interesting to see how Sherlock's thought bubbles varied when he was drunk from when he was sober. He was supposed to make observations at the crime scene and there was a shot of the scene with all his drunk observations superimposed over the various pieces of furniture, etc. One that I noticed was "Silly Thing" and then I noticed that the word "Thing" was on almost all of the items. And just before, when Sherlock and Watson were called to work by a client, Sherlock slurred, "The game is . . .something" and Watson replied, after reflection, "er. . . on?" It was pretty funny. I never did quite get why they were getting drunk...did Sherlock think they had to do a bachelor party??
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Trying to avoid spoilers here...
In the second episode, it's interesting to see how Sherlock's thought bubbles varied when he was drunk from when he was sober. He was supposed to make observations at the crime scene and there was a shot of the scene with all his drunk observations superimposed over the various pieces of furniture, etc. One that I noticed was "Silly Thing" and then I noticed that the word "Thing" was on almost all of the items. And just before, when Sherlock and Watson were called to work by a client, Sherlock slurred, "The game is . . .something" and Watson replied, after reflection, "er. . . on?" It was pretty funny. I never did quite get why they were getting drunk...did Sherlock think they had to do a bachelor party??
Yes. That was the bachelor party.
Avoid the following if you still haven't seen the entire episode...
They went pub crawling and Sherlock had some plan to drink a certain amount per pub versus his calculations on how much they would excrete in a certain amount of time. He was timing them. But things started to go awry from his careful calculations and two hours later, they were back home completely wasted, asleep on the stairs. Then a client came to see them. And rather than turn her away, they tried to investigate while still pissed. It was hilarious.
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OK, I've rewatched the 2nd episode of the 3rd season "A Sign of Three" and I can say this is, so far, my most favorite episode. ;D
It is exhausting to watch though as so much is going on.
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Sherlock has learned in his 2 years gone that he values his friendships, such that he has. And so he is attempting to be more human, to reach out more and he is trying hard to understand the emotions of people around him even as he realizes that he may not always be successful and much of the success he does have is due to John. He even reaches out more and more to his brother.
So though Sherlock knows now how much values John, he's not quite sure how much John values him - until John announces his impending marriage and asks him to be his best man.
The episode shows Sherlock going into overdrive, emotionally and rationally, trying in his manic way to live up to his role as John's best man - and surprisingly to him his role as John's best friend - at his wedding.
With hysterical results.
The episode is a crazy quilt of pre-wedding adventures, mystery, emotional rollercoasters and revelations in short, exactly the sort of wedding Sherlock would preside over. It's exhausting because Sherlock is a narcissist of sorts, and the wedding reception monologue veers crazily between Sherlock wanting attention, but having to keep pushing the attention back to John and his bride.
And at the end, unable to help himself, Sherlock includes himself in their marriage, by making his own vow.
The episode has everything, laughter, intrigue, sadness, joy, friendship and love.
And it even has a little homoerotic bit - if you take it that way, and I do. ;D At one point, John is falling out of his seat, and he reaches over to Sherlock who is sitting across from him and props himself up awkwardly - his hand staying longer than necessary - on Sherlock's knee. Sherlock looks at him. John takes his hand off, starts to fall again, puts his hand back on to balance himself, then hurriedly raises his hand again, holding it up as if to say 'Nothing personal'. Sherlock's only reaction is to say, "I don't mind." :-*
And I did like the jab they did at Madonna. :laugh:
Incredibly enjoyable episode. You see how not only Sherlock has grown, but the people he calls closest, do support him very loyally, no matter what. You even find out about the executed husband of Mrs. Hudson and who exactly he was and why he was executed. Mrs. Hudson used to be quite the party girl, apparently. :)
So it's a fan's dream, and I can see Moffat and Gattis wanting to please fans by showing Sherlock actually growing and warming up. During the break between seasons, many many fans were very open in their desire to see emotional growth and said quite clearly that if Sherlock didn't when he returned, then the show was going to be boring and static with his unchanging character.
So they had to walk a thin line. Canon was deviated from incredibly. In the stories, Sherlock never showed up at all for John's weddings, and he never talked personal matters with John. So it is strange to see this Sherlock not only friendly with John's wife, but helping out with the wedding plans.
I am interested to see where they take this.
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Thanks, del, that was a great commentary on the episode. I loved it, too, though I think they have to be careful about catering to the fans in that way. I'm kind of hoping they rein it in and get back to more serious sleuthing. I do like how they've made Mary a team player and not an obstacle, though. She's a great addition, and it's clear her real life partnershiip with Martin helps with the chemistry. :)
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Thanks, del, that was a great commentary on the episode. I loved it, too, though I think they have to be careful about catering to the fans in that way. I'm kind of hoping they rein it in and get back to more serious sleuthing. I do like how they've made Mary a team player and not an obstacle, though. She's a great addition, and it's clear her real life partnershiip with Martin helps with the chemistry. :)
Yes, the chemistry is great. And her addition is better than I could have hoped for. They did it very well, so that she is not the third wheel or ball and chain.
I agree, they need to get back into the murders and mysteries.
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OK, last episode of the season was crazy good.
This season has been spectacular. The best of the three seasons.
I will have to give it more viewings before I post my review but I am amused at some of the fan's reactions.
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I think many were upset about the resolution of the Season 2 cliffhanger. They wanted real emotion and now, that the truth is out, they feel cheated.
I wonder if they're the same fans who are now complaining that Sherlock is TOO emotional?
Then there are those fans who liked Sherlock when he was being all dark and dangerous talking trash to Moriarty about 'being on the side of angels' but "not being one", but then got upset when he proved it.
You can't please everyone.
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I don't know much about fans' reactions. Heck, I don't even know about my OWN reactions. One trivial thing...I liked the display of skin by Sherlock!! ::)
I just wonder what someone just starting to watch this series must think about these latest episodes. Each one seems to be a full-length movie! Very disturbing and wild...too much for me at that late hour of the night! Last night at the season closer, I laughed, I cried, I scratched my head...crazy!!
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Here's a pretty good wrapup of the latest season by Carmen: http://www.smittenbybritain.com/the-humanizing-of-sherlock-holmes/ (http://www.smittenbybritain.com/the-humanizing-of-sherlock-holmes/)
Quite a few spoilers but leaves important things out so you still have a reason for watching.
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I read the first half which covered the first episode. ...
The part that blew my mind was when she said that Sherlock was not just a buddy story or a romance but the story of a "god and a mortal." Wow.
Okay, now I read the second half of the story. (thanks again, friend Jeff, for pointing out this wonderful review!) Sentences that lept out for me were:
"...their conversation feels as if it were taking place not merely between two men but between two different species, or possibly between a mountain and a shrub..."
Remind you of something?
and...
"It's a rare attempt to make visible something that we take for granted: a new kind of cognition, inflected by passion, that allows strangers to think out loud, solving mysteries together."
Wow!
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I've only seen the first of the new series. Looking forward to the others which I've recorded.
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Oops. Thanks for reminding me (goes back to read the rest of the New Yorker review)
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I love the article. Emily does get that Moffat has made this show a character study. "It's show about a detective, not a detective show" as he put it.
but the subject of the show is not so much Sherlock’s deductions as this relationship, which is itself a kind of mystery
And I certainly agree with the following. People have been complaining about the gay references in this series, accusing the writers of "queer baiting" as the term goes. They claim that men can be close and not have it be homoerotic - which of course is true. But not in this case. Sherlock and John's relationship is beyond the norm. It's something more than just two men who are friends.
In the 2nd season episode, the word 'love' is finally out. John acknowledges it first in asking Sherlock to be his best man and later, Sherlock proclaims it openly in his best man's speech. Of course, one can take it as just normal expressive language ("I love you, bro!"), but in the case of Sherlock, as the audience later learns, Sherlock is really really serious when he claims something. He takes a vow, he means it. He swears to protect someone no matter what, he means it. So obviously, when he says he loves John most in all the world, he means that, too and not just as a polite platitude.
So they are more than friends. Much more. And that's because Sherlock's mental state is beyond normal. Moffat says Sherlock is just an ordinary guy with a big big brain, but what makes us who and what we are? Our brains do. So Sherlock's massive intellect shapes who he is and since his gifts are so rare, he is far from 'normal'.
Sherlock and Watson are best friends, certainly. They’re also chaste boyfriends, as well as a captain and his first mate. Mostly, though, they’re a god and a mortal, mutually besotted—the most impossible love affair of all.
Emily says "captain and first mate" as a homage to Star Trek, but even Star Trek may owe its close male relationships to Sherlock Holmes. The 2nd episode of the 3rd season likened their relationship to a commanding officer and his subaltern as a new character in John's life appears. One to whom John also very much admires. Sherlock refers to that dear military friend of John's (of whom he seems to be slightly jealous) as John's "previous" commanding officer. John is no slouch. He immediately catches on as Sherlock corrects himself.
"You said 'previous'. That implies I have a new commanding officer. I don't."
Caught out, Sherlock sheepishly concedes.
In one flashback, the two sit on a London park bench, framed by dark trees, as Watson struggles to reassure Holmes that their relationship won’t change. The shot emphasizes the impossibility of their kinship: Watson is half the size of Holmes; as he slumps, the cadaverous Holmes sits up rigidly, so that their conversation feels as if it were taking place not merely between two men but between two different species, or possibly between a mountain and a shrub. Then Watson turns, and finds that Holmes has disappeared.
I find that more like a god and his worshipper. He has come down to visit where his worshipper reassures him that he has not forsaken him. Then he disappears without any sign that he has taken his worshippers word to heart.
It seems Emily didn't stop to watch the last episode before she wrote her review. I would like to know what she thought of the last episode.
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OK, yeah, they have a guy friendship, but c'mon, how many straight guys have THIS close a friendship? ;)
http://www.zimbio.com/Beyond+the+Tube/articles/9M5l28-2hfx/Evidence+Sherlock+Holmes+John+Watson+Get+Already (http://www.zimbio.com/Beyond+the+Tube/articles/9M5l28-2hfx/Evidence+Sherlock+Holmes+John+Watson+Get+Already)
:-* :-*
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Thanks for giving me my JohnLock fix for tonight!
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Thanks for giving me my JohnLock fix for tonight!
Sweet dreams! :laugh:
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They should be on a case far from home and imbibe too much. When they wake up the world may have changed. :laugh:
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Talk about "updated for the 21st century"! It tickles me that "Ms. Hudson," the person who comes in to clean for Sherlock Holmes and Joan Watson in Elementary, is played by the transgender actress Candis Cayne. :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candis_Cayne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candis_Cayne)
I also find it amusing that the Diogenes Club is the name of the restaurants that Mycroft Holmes (Rhys Ifans) operates in London and New York.
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I was chatting on my blog about seeing a couple of old Sherlock Holmes broadcasts at the tea I went to last Sunday. So, guess who played Sherlock Holmes in this mid-century broadcast?
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What...no guesses?
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By "mid-century broadcast," do you mean literally "on television in the 1950s"?
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On television, yes. 1950s? More like 1950s-1980s.
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Okay, this person played Moriarty in the show:
(Caution, this show is very difficult to find by Googling!)
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Maybe this is pointing to the fact that until recently all leading men looked very similar to each other.
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Maybe it's pointing to the obscurity of the show, especially if it's British.
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No it's American. Probably obscure due to its mediocrity. But not due to its star-studded cast!
Shall I give another clue?
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Okay, here's a hint. The actor who played Sherlock was, like Sherlock, known to move in several of the highest circles.
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Looks like Peter Lawford to me.
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Yay, Meryl, you nailed it! Now, can anyone ID Moriarty?
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Yay, Meryl, you nailed it! Now, can anyone ID Moriarty?
I was just going to ask who that was. ;D
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Well, no wonder this has all been so obscure. According to IMDb this was an episode of Fantasy Island!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0577807/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_2 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0577807/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_2)
And that's Mel Ferrer as Moriarty.
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It's here, finally. And it's free. The Sherlock app, for iOS and Android. ::)
sherlockthenetwork.com
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Found this today: Cumberbatch is filming Richard III for the BBC. Pretty hot looking RIII. 8)
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/first-look-at-benedict-cumberbatch-737150
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When it comes to finding juicy roles, our Benny is not encumbered!
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Oh, no! First, Benedict announces his engagement, and now, this!
Tragedy Predicted for next season (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/evaggelos-vallianatos/time-for-a-worldwide-agri_b_6111926.html)
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Well, at least no one is wearing purple.
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So, now it appears that
Sherlock Benedict and his sweetheart have tied the knot on Valentine's Day. Sherlock would never have wed, it would be too distracting. Look at the load of trouble Watson got into as a result of his marriage (in the series, anyway). But it appears that Bennie thinks he can do everything and anything. We'll see about that!
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There has been a lot of hoopla about a Sherlock special "coming soon." I had my doubts that it was really coming soon and finally did hear today that it wouldn't be out until around Christmas. Bah, humbug!
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Happy birthday Bennie! Unlike that other Bennie, he really is 39!!
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Congratulations to Sir Benedict! But, wait...we can't call him Sir yet, he's *only* received a CBE honour from her majesty. But, can knighthood be far behind? Would he, at 39, be the youngest knight ever?
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Congratulations to Sir Benedict! But, wait...we can't call him Sir yet, he's *only* received a CBE honour from her majesty. But, can knighthood be far behind? Would he, at 39, be the youngest knight ever?
Surely not. "Ever" is a very long time. Men once became king by winning battles in their teens.
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I guess this is where I'll be on New Year's Day! A Sherlock set in Victorian England!
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/nov/25/benedict-cumberbatch-victorian-sherlock-abominable-bride?CMP=fb_a-culture_b-gdnculture (http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/nov/25/benedict-cumberbatch-victorian-sherlock-abominable-bride?CMP=fb_a-culture_b-gdnculture)
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I guess this is where I'll be on New Year's Day! A Sherlock set in Victorian England!
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/nov/25/benedict-cumberbatch-victorian-sherlock-abominable-bride?CMP=fb_a-culture_b-gdnculture (http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/nov/25/benedict-cumberbatch-victorian-sherlock-abominable-bride?CMP=fb_a-culture_b-gdnculture)
Can't wait! 8)
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The big day is here! Feel free to post your thoughts...but, East Coast Brokies, not until the show has started on Pacific/Mountain time...no spoilers!
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If you can't wait to tonight. You can find it online. ;D
Either way, I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
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I guess this is where I'll be on New Year's Day! A Sherlock set in Victorian England!
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/nov/25/benedict-cumberbatch-victorian-sherlock-abominable-bride?CMP=fb_a-culture_b-gdnculture (http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/nov/25/benedict-cumberbatch-victorian-sherlock-abominable-bride?CMP=fb_a-culture_b-gdnculture)
Well, so what did you Cumberbatchians think of him as a Victorian Holmes?
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The episode will be replayed on January 10th. It's also playing in a few movie theaters. I'll try to avoid spoilers until then. I'll just say that it wasn't what I expected.
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Oh no. Usually I can resist those chocolate bunnies in the grocery stores come Easter time. But not this year!
http://mashable.com/2016/03/03/chocolate-cumberbunny-benedict-cumberbatch/#W5sIetCyR5qz (http://mashable.com/2016/03/03/chocolate-cumberbunny-benedict-cumberbatch/#W5sIetCyR5qz)
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lol! No those are funny!!
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Today in 2014 Mark Gattis announced that there would be a fourth Sherlock series. And we're still waiting for it!
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Around here, various trade unions are wont to protest at construction sites that employ nonunion labor. They usually do this by setting up a giant, inflatable rat across the street from the work site. Today it finally occurred to me: That must be the fabled Giant Rat of Sumatra! :D
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lmao!
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I purchased my Dr. Strange collectors book yesterday!
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Happy 163rd birthday to the amazing Mr. Sherlock Holmes!
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Happy 163rd birthday to the amazing Mr. Sherlock Holmes!
I hope his bee hives are safe from that fungus--or whatever--that's been devastating American bees.
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The two-hour finale to the Sherlock season has already started on the East Coast of the U.S.! Please, no spoilers! Episode 2 was quite unsettling. . .will the legendary duo make it through?
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. . .will the legendary duo make it through?
This wording was unconsciously prescient as the episode came off more like a Batman story, complete with a villain with super-powers!! Anybody want to give their reviews or predictions for the future?
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Season 4 begins tomorrow! Yes, Monday evening. Go figure.
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happy birthday to Mark Gatiss, who was named one of the most influential gay people in Britain:
https://www.geek.com/television/happy-birthday-doctor-who-writer-actor-superfan-mark-gatiss-1719899/ (https://www.geek.com/television/happy-birthday-doctor-who-writer-actor-superfan-mark-gatiss-1719899/)
Are we going to see any new episodes this year?